omg dude, that calculator RULES!!! THANK YOU
Great job
omg dude, that calculator RULES!!! THANK YOU
Great job
yup, the clock now registers changes made via clockgen after boot to the HTT/CPU on my DFI Ultra-D. thanx for getting that fixed so quickly, nice update :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Turrican
@ lukija
a very nice tool!!!
A suggestion, why in place of "Normal" and "Weak" options in the Dram drive strength field, you don't put several levels ?????
tnx for your great tool
Because AMD only lists 2 registers for drive strengths!!! Thats why no windows apps can change settings other that Normal or WeakQuote:
Originally Posted by alexdibi
Exactly, almost everything is coded according to AMD documentation execept for Tref , undocumented dividers (180/150/140/12) and some CAS values (1.5).
I really liked your single page format better. That was great! Everything right there in front of you. It would be nicer for screenshots, too.
Agree, love the "everything in a glance" design. Great job anyway, lukija :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by WiCKeD
:woot:
This tool is great! It appears to be more stable than A64 on my particular configuration.
Very sweet, it's working in Vista x64 as well
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Originally Posted by RaMmElEe
OK but it would be difficult to fit everything on one page only. I can try to make one alternative layout, maybe with smaller font. But first nF4 support and World Cup Soccer 2006 :)
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Originally Posted by macaddict
A64? You mean A64Tweaker. There is one interesting thing I have noticed. Changing memclk in big steps will mostly freeze CPU. So I added changing in steps (A64Info does it for you behind the scene) and also added small delay between successive changes. This is why changing memlck takes some time. This proved very good in my test.
Any progress on the AM2 version lukija?
No, until AMD releases some documents.
us poor AM2 souls anxiously await, we know you will fire out a new version shortly afterwards, thanx in advance for the AM2 version.Quote:
Originally Posted by lukija
Doesn't work good in my rig. I can't load most of the values right. x64?
very very nice program man! Im using it now! Now all I got to ask is, im making a website and a tutorial and stuff for overclocking. Now im gonna ask, can I add this program to my site listings of a must have?
@3oh6
Patience, my friend. I don't have AM2 but it i will try to add support as soon as AMD releases some documentation.
@Daved+
You mean you are trying to load preset, previosly saved with A64Info, and it doesn't restore values as it should?
@SepheronX
Of course.
thanks man! Ill add a readme file within zip of the overclocking utilities that will state who to thanks, and im not leaving you out!
;)
Oh also, out of curiosity, do you think you will make one for the intel conroe? If so, ill surly pay for a copy!!!
I mean that it doesn't read the values from the mobo, like the HyperTransport Link values, the memory speed values and it also says that the stock speed for my 3000+ is 800Mhz.Quote:
Originally Posted by lukija
Hard question, since i bought Opteron 165 recently i'm not planning to switch to Intel platform. Maybe, after I finish A64Info for S939 and AM2. Who knows. Since Intel doesn't have integrated memory controler, it is more difficult because you have to support all chipsets (965,975 ....).Quote:
Originally Posted by SepheronX
Are you using old version (0.5)? This version doesn't support XP64. Please, try beta version:Quote:
Originally Posted by Daved+
http://avala.yubc.net/~lukija/A64Info-beta.exe
Well I got the download ready! The link is on my blog under the links section.
http://cguc.blogspot.com/
Be quick or be dead :)Quote:
Originally Posted by SepheronX
LOL wha?Quote:
Originally Posted by lukija
Oh the download consists of other things that should be used when overclocking. It also comes with a full length guide curtisy from a member of the NCIX forums.
Just remembering Iron Maiden :)Quote:
Originally Posted by SepheronX
Oh HAHAH yeah man! Iron maiden rulz!!
I found a bug in the calculator. When you set for example HTT to 323, cpu multiplier to 8.5, HT to 3.0, you'll notice there is no difference between memory clock 140 and 150, both give memory speed of 228.79mhz.Quote:
Originally Posted by lukija
what a marvellous program!!! :toast: :woot: :clap:
does it works also with Ati chipset ???
I have a Ferrari 4005 laptop, with Turion64 + Ati Xpress 200 chipset, so I would to know if this software is compatible with my hardware :slobber:
^^
Yup...
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Originally Posted by robgeb
i think the best way to find out is to test it yourself ;) ;)
works perfectly :D :banana: :woot:Quote:
Originally Posted by tzitzos
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Originally Posted by robgeb
excelent ;) ;) ;)
:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
It has nothing to do with chipset (yet), it works with AMD CPU and it's memory controler. nF4 clock change is currently in development stage.
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Originally Posted by lukija
very interesting ;) ;)
lukija your program man excelent!!
i get rid of :
1)A64 Tweaker for mem section
2)A64 Mem Frequency , Amon-Ra , Divider Calculator for calculator ecc ecc
can you add the "estimated performance rating frenquency" option that have amor -Ra to your program?
make you an example
opteron 170 @ 2900Mhz estimate rating un 6105
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/5709/0019gu1.th.jpg
for now this programs i don't use them any more ;) ;)
hehhe if now you add also fsb change lol we get rid also the ClockGen ;)
what about also a some option to the cpu section that indicates the tcase max and the tdp like A64 TCaseMax does?
or maybe options to chande the multiplayer like rm clock ecc ecc
heheh
thx and keep up the good work man ;) ;)
It is not. Sometimes dividers for adjacent memclk are the same. In this case it is 12 (case of non-overclocked CPU, it is all the same for overclocked, because dividers do not depend on HTT):Quote:
Originally Posted by _33
200 * 8.5 = 1700
For memclk = 150
1700 / 12 = 141.67 , 141.67 is less than 150, and that is OK. Remember, memclk is upper limit which may not be exceeded.
1700 / 11 = 154.55 and it is more than 150 so it cannot be.
For memclk = 140 (this is just symbolic value, actual value is still unknown, but Oskar said it is 143 , and I'm using it)
1700 / 12 = 141.67 and it is less than 143.
In both cases, divider is 12.
In case you have doubts, chechk this table:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=41595
Id like to be able to run two instances.
Either that, or CPU info/clock + memory clock/timings on the same page.
Maybe, but it is not high priority.Quote:
Originally Posted by tzitzos
Clock change is almost finished, multiplier change will be added to, these are high priority. Tdp - can be done but it is not high priority.Quote:
Originally Posted by tzitzos
Yup, I'm missing that feature too. It is the way that driver is designed, it allows only one instance at this moment. I must ask Audiofreak if he can tweak it.Quote:
Originally Posted by jrw
Sounds good.Quote:
Originally Posted by lukija
Maybe an easier solution is to cram it all into one tab? :)
My point is, this needs to be screenshot-friendly to be really GOOD...
Maybe you could make a "workspace tab" for doing the clocking and tuning (clockgen and timings) and another tab for screenies (which just display CPU name, CPU clock, MEM clock, MEM timings)???
Id kiss you for that :P
Well, moving controls from one tab to another one is not trivial (trust me), but 10x, all suggestions will be considered. First let's make basic things work and then we will do some make-up job.
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Originally Posted by lukija
ok
thx ;) ;) ;)
Having the Tref values indicated as they are in A64 Tweaker would be abonus. Not all of us have DFI boards ;-)
Having tref match the setting in bios would be a bonus.
Why do windows programs read tref different from that set in bios?
edit: Forgot to mention "Awsome Program" btw.
@macaddict
I used DFI BIOS as reference because AMD hasn't documented (again!) all values. And also, there is a problem with Tref because some programs are reading it in a different manner. Read this:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=403
this program is reporting my venus core opty 144 as a san diego core...
Which version? 0.5 or 0.6? 0.5 was wrong. If it is 0.6, please post screenshot, so I can fix it.Quote:
Originally Posted by viper650
oh, it is version 5. i used the link in the first post. sorry for the confusion, i will get version 6. thanks
I can't find link for v 0.6 ?
O madonca kok ex YU bratov tukaj :P
found it ;)
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Originally Posted by TEDY
Pozdrav :)
Link for beta version:
http://avala.yubc.net/~lukija/A64Info-beta.exe
P.S. First post updated! No more confusion I hope.
Hvala ti lukija ;)
Kako je sedaj v neodvisni Srbiji ? :P
LOL. Sve po starom, na zalost.
Lol! :cheer2: Ziveo Balkan!Quote:
Originally Posted by lukija
lol you really in japan? :P
Yep. Zdele dezuje. ;) :p:
I made a little tool, it is for nForce 4 only, you can change clock from 100 to 600MHz, so beware, do not push too much. It is very precise (0.1MHz steps) hance slow. I takes a couple of seconds if you change clock for 100MHz up or down. If it works OK , it will be implemented in nexte version of A64Info.
http://avala.yubc.net/~lukija/nF4ClockTest.exe
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Originally Posted by lukija
thx ;)
downloaded ;)
can you make the bus clock tool for Nforce3 250GB? that would be awesome if you can. =)
Quote:
Originally Posted by lukija
working perfectly!!
Ps: If i change with step at 1mhz when i press set it dosen't work!!
You have to increase 0,5Mhz to save the change
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Originally Posted by lukija
Lukija, could you do the same for ATI based mobo's?
Thanks again for all the hard work you put into these programs...
Fixed (I hope). Please re-download again.
@GenTarkin
If you can look in Sandra for something like PCI to ISA bridge, you will find something like VEN_10DE and DEV_00XX. A need that DEV_00XX info, because I do not have nF3 mobo. You wil find it under Buses and Devices section, it should be under Bus 0.
I do not think so. It is easier with nVidia since it generates clocks and not some specialized clock generator chip. I do not know if ATI has similar solution. If you find out, it can be done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plywood99
It work perfect & precisely:woot:. Can't wait to see the A64Info with this new function. Clockgen will be history. Great job again lukija.:toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by lukija
But it is funny that i can't open the nF4ClockTest together with A64Info. It say "Error loading driver".
works fine here with new A64Info v0.60 beta
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...uz_idle_tn.png
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...v060beta_1.png http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...v060beta_2.png
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...v060beta_3.png http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...v060beta_4.png
thanks!
Unfortunately, this is because A64Info and nF4ClockTest use the same driver which has exclusive usage - only one of them can use it. I asked Audiofreak (guy who made driver) about that, and he is not planning to change it. That's why you cannot start more instances of A64Info either. But since clock change will be a part of A64Info , there should be no problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by RaMmElEe
Thank you for a wonderful tweaker! :clap:
All the features work flawlessly, and I have no complaints at all. I just thought I'd bring it to your attention that my Turion is not correctly identified. The original clock speed is 1.6 GHz, while both versions show 800 MHz.
230 % overclock on air? O' how I wish it was true :p:
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Originally Posted by lukija
works perfectly. awesome work :toast: :woot:
10x. Please download this tool:Quote:
Originally Posted by _damien_
http://avala.yubc.net/~lukija/cpuid.exe
and run it from prompt:
cpui > result.txt
You can zip result.txt and upload it here. It will help me to fix this issue.
Ok, I attached the .txt file :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by _damien_
10x, this will help.
Small change, it should fix original multiplier detection. Please, redownload beta version again, it should detect properly original Turion multiplier. It works OK on my Opteron 165, I do not know about other CPU models. Here it is:
http://avala.yubc.net/~lukija/A64Info-beta.exe
Holy crap this is sweet. It works sooooo much better with my board.
Thanks!
lukija, could you change the version number of the application every time you make a change, no matter how big or small it is? For example, for a minor change, 0.61, 0.62, for a major change - 0.70, 0.80, 0.90, 1.0 Final etc. :banana:
Slight offtopic... Why did you lock the thread on the benchforum, where it all started? Now I have to monitor this forum daily, also. c c c c c :nono: :slap:
Any way, great app. Can't wait for NF4 Support within A64Info. Also, like many have suggested, a screenshot friendly GUI would be nice.
Keep up the excelent work :woot:
(Falcon@benchforum)
OK. Next version will have new number.
@OT
Bench forum is full of smartasses :with:. Audiofreak left it because of them. Why shouldn't I? I'm a member since it started its work, but now it is just a pale shade.
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Originally Posted by lukija
A little more offtopic, and no more from me, sorry...
If this "smartasses :with: " was meant for me, than I really have nothing else to say to you but thank you & :kissbutt:
No it wasn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by 3MAJ
Then I truly appologise :(
No problem, why should I have anything against people who helped me?Quote:
Originally Posted by 3MAJ
Can make this program compatible with my MOBO (DFI UT CFX3200-DR), thx;)
Damm sweet proggy you made there. Thanks for sharing.
Did you try? This program should work with Athlon 64, X2, Opetron, Sempron CPU-s. It has nothing to do with chipset (unles we are speaking about clock change, only nF4 support is planned).Quote:
Originally Posted by Counter CS
this is a damn good program, i like it better than a64tweaker !!
I spent the last few days again digging in the depths of A64 dram control registers..and this helped me a lot.
Although...i think i found a bug (or a misunderstanding).
When i clock down the multi (with rmclock, Cool'n'Quiet etc.), say my default is 11x and i clock down to 4xHTT...then A64info says that i have a mem-divider on and also says my memory speed is down to 183.
I do not have a mem-divider on (running 1:1) and my memspeed is the same as HTT, 230mhz. I double/triple checked with many other tools.
eg. clockgen says right my MULTI is down to 4x, but HTT stays and also reports my memspeed still as 230.
Also..it is not known to me that rmclock (or CnQ) would switch on a divider and reduce memspeed.
*********
additional stuff:
So..going thru the AMD bios/kernel white papers (i love them)...i see that certain registers are not even implemented in winchester (eg. Dram data strenght- they just came with revision E)
Its right i can not set them with A64info, but it would be nice if those would be grayed out so you see which ones are available for what CPU revision.
Just a thought.
thanks, nice program !
Quote:
Originally Posted by flexy
I get it. Take a look at this post:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...62&postcount=7
Smallest possible memory divider is 5, According to Oskar Wu. So, your CPU is running at 4 x 230 = 920MHz. Memclk is 200MHz, and memory divider should be 4, but 4 is less than 5, so divider is 5. Memory speed is 920 / 5 = 184 MHz. Of course , this is theory. A64Info is calculating memory speed with respect to HTT, Multi, Memclk, ODC using known rules. It would be nice if A64 had some register which contains actual divider, but AFAIK there isn't one.
You are 100% percent right. Since A64Info is still under development, I'm focusing on the most importaint things. Polishing will be done later, I still have to add nf4 support, multiplier change and other stuff. I think this specific parameters have no effect on older cores. I tried on my Winchester to set 233 memlck ( which is E rev specific) and it just ignored settings. I guess it is the same story with other parameters. Please, try to set them, see if values change.Quote:
Originally Posted by flexy
:woot: Great news, with A64info + nF4clock + multiplier change & if voltage change as CrystalCPUID did but all the way up to 1.6v. Why we boot into bios then. Looking forward to see your new version. Great job lukija. :toast: :)Quote:
Originally Posted by lukija
hi :)Quote:
Originally Posted by lukija
What i want to say is....i SHOULD still have my original "divider" which i have in bios...1:1, MEMCLK=200, HTT=230
When i use rightmark rmclock it can set multi to anything from 4x to 11x depending on load under XP, clocking the CPU up or down...but i dont THINK it would activate a divider. But A64info says i have a divider set (which i did not) and also the "real" memspeed should still be 230. (memclk=200 in bios, ok ;) I think that you with A64info read the multi and calculate and show the theoretical calculated divider/memspeed...but in reality its just not set.
I still have to double-check and ask the author of rmclock...or check some white papers..but i really dont KNOW whether A64 sets the real memspeed always depending on multi or only ONCE in bios.
its very interesting..because also bios-developers and even oscar probably dont know everything. Right now i INLYgo after the AMD bios/kernel white papers.Quote:
Originally Posted by lukija
Fro example: In dfi lanparty bios there was ALWAYS a setting for DRM drive strength eg. Level 1 - 7 and people said there are SEVERAL levels of "weak"...eg. level 1, level 3, level 5 would all be different....and also the dram data strength you could set even LONG before Winchester Rev E.
In reality (see A64 registers) there seems to be only ONE bit for "Dram drive strength" (Weak or normal)....and data drive strength is only there since Rev E. I was messing around with those settings for months to get my system stable....with settings which did not even exist but you could change in bios :)
[QUOTE=lukija]It would be nice if A64 had some register which contains actual divider, but AFAIK there isn't one.
Is there a register (or some other good way) to read the actual/real memory speed ?
Please send me a screenshot of CPU and DRAM tab. I tried on my rig 4x multi and memclk=200, A64Info reported memory divider as 5 , also CPU-Z reported the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by flexy
I was asking the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by flexy
Well, AMD does not mention:Quote:
Originally Posted by flexy
- 180/150/140/120 memclk dividers (217/233/250 also!)
- half multis
- 20 missing tref values (only 12 are documented)
I'm trying to take the best from all sides and compile it. Same goes for core detection - my opteron is JH9-E6. Ok, I know about E6, and I know for JH, but whut is 9 standing for?
not showing everything correctly here.......still a great lil proggy though.
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9319/a64info6di.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by flexy
IIRC the different drive strengths on DFI mobos is a result of the mobo itself and not the cpu. Something to do with the way Oscar laid out the circuitry for the ram slots...
Sorry, no AM2 support yet. I can add core regonition but DRAM settings are a way different.Quote:
Originally Posted by ludeboy12
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g7...123/Image4.jpg
Oh...interesting.
I am coming along posts where people talk about a "a64 divider bug"...means if multi is at 4x the A64 automatically forces a 5:4 divider on the ram !
Now, the new cpuz also says my mem is running at 183.
Have to look into this
Please read post #282.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=282
Look at your picture again. Divider (memclk) is not set at 183, that is why I asked you to send me a picture of memory settings. Memclk is set at 200, but it doesnt mean thar memory divider equals cpu multiplier! Try to use half multi for example 10.5 and see what happens. Also, choose odd CPU multi (11) and set Odd divisor correct and see what happens.
Bottom line: memlck = 200 doesn't mean always 1:1 ratio. Use builtin calculator and experiment with ODC and half multis.
Not sure if you were given this information yet, but I would also appreciate nF3 mobo support. I have located the PCI to PCI Bridge under PCI Bus 0. There is no PCI to ISA bridge that I can see. There is a CPU to ISA bridge, but I don't think that's what you want. Anyway, just see the attached screenshot for the information you want. I have an MSI Neo2 Platinum (NF3 Ultra). Thanks for your efforts. Hopefully you can add support for the unfortunate few still using such old hardware. I swear it was top of the line 2 years ago. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by lukija
Raptor One, please contact me via PM.
Any news about the new version, with integrated NF4 clock support?
In a few days, currently I'm adding multi/voltage adjustment.
Awsome!Quote:
Originally Posted by lukija
After that, please make a more "screenshot"-friendly design :toast:
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Originally Posted by jrw
Of course. Since driver allows only one instance of program, this is a must. I'm planning to make one info tab, and one settings tab. Info tab should be screenshot friendly. But after I finish this "technology demonstrator" version. Next thing is AM2 support, hope AMD will release some PDFs.