New Memory Tweaker for Intel Chipsets

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08-11-2006, 11:43 PM
FELIX

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndreYang

It cannot use for P5B Deluxe.:(

It's still have some bugs, such as cpuz error.

...what bugs?
Is all combos indicates values?
Don't apply if a combo is empty
08-12-2006, 03:40 AM
DEVIL K-ce

Hmmm not working with my MSI P965 Neo-F.

Timing's in bios : 4-4-4-12, change in tweaker too 4-3-3-8 and efect is 10-5-5-20 :eek:
08-12-2006, 03:59 AM
FELIX

...I send you a pm.
08-12-2006, 05:22 AM
DEVIL K-ce

Quote:

Originally Posted by FELIX

...I send you a pm.

I reply to You ;)

Bug is only when i overclocking memory, in stoc clock's is ok.
08-12-2006, 07:56 AM
kenofstephen

Great work Felix, thanks so much!!
08-14-2006, 09:47 AM
astaris

Hi Felix..thanx for this nice prog...
Just one question: what the difference between "Write to Read Delay" and "Write-Read Turnaround clocks" settings?
I come from A64 where we have only Twtr and "Read-Write Turnaround clocks",
so i really don't understand this "Write-Read Turnaround clocks" setting.
Thank you.
08-15-2006, 05:52 PM
CyberDruid

Thanks M8

Quote:

Originally Posted by FELIX

MemSet is a memory tweaker for Intel chipsets.
Chipsets supported: 845 855 865 875 915 925 945 955 & 975.

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/2280/memset217jo.jpg

-Settings with an asterisk on 915<->975 chipsets are only referenced on 915pm/945pm (mobile) datasheets,
but I compared with differents registers dumps of 915<->975 chipsets,and settings are the same.
If you run on dual Channel,Be careful to always put the same value on Channel A and B.

-Settings with an asterisk on 865/875 chipsets gets from comparison with others softs.
-Others Settings on 865/875 chipsets come from Abit IC7-G bios.

Here is the 2.1 version:

MemSet.zip

Below a little soft for quickly testing your memory performance:
http://www.x86-secret.com/Download/mbench.zip
Simple,fast and accurate.

Tell me If You have a particular option in your bios,
and i try to add it in the tweaker if I can to do that.

If you find a bug,Reporte me please.
Screens are welcome. :)

Gonna put this to use right away! Thanks a bunch M8.
08-16-2006, 04:34 AM
BoLhCa

Great program! I am now able to run PAT technology on my mobo ASUS P4C800 Deluxe with 4 moduls of ram and ofc my score in memory bandwidth increase over 6GB/s, before 5.8GB/s (sandra)!

THX:banana:
08-17-2006, 02:21 PM
Twisted-net

The version 2.2 (beta) is an instant freeze of the system on my dell xps m1710 laptop.

(micron ddr2 667mhz 5-5-5-15, intel 945pm chipset)

If I change it to 4-4-4-12 its a freeze. (might be a to big change)
Whenever I change one value its a freeze.
Both channels get the same value.

Might be that the ram cant handle any changes but if it might be a user error plz tell me :)
Anyone else tryed this on his m1710
08-17-2006, 08:11 PM
FELIX

...is the version 2.1 work fine on your laptop?
I send you a pm.
08-17-2006, 09:12 PM
bing

1 Attachment(s)

Attachment 50299

I have P5B Deluxe Wifi, just a quick question about the red circled box, is that a correct value ? Ask this because CPUZ is reporting Rev. C1.

Anyway, thank you very much for your effort developing this tool ! :thumbsup:
08-18-2006, 01:25 AM
tAmp0i

Yes i am still having the same error. After exit and re-open, the values in the box gone.... CPU-Z bug :(
08-18-2006, 07:21 AM
FELIX

->bing:I don't know if your stepping is C1 or C2,but I modified the reading,
try with this version:
MemSet22beta.zip
08-18-2006, 10:24 AM
Trellame

Has anyone had any luck getting this to work with Windows x64?
08-18-2006, 11:46 AM
bing

P965 stepping

Hi Felix,

Thanks, its now showing C1.

Actually I was curious since P965 stepping C2 supposed to be release to manucfacturer by this Sept. :p:

But it is clear now, and again just guessing that your update was referring to this page below right ?

Intel® 965 Express Chipset Family Specification Update
For the Intel® 82Q965, 82Q963, 82G965 Graphics and Memory Controller Hub (GMCH)and Intel® 82P965 Memory Controller Hub (MCH)

Again, thank you so much ! Great Work you've done there ! :worship:
08-19-2006, 02:31 AM
FELIX

...before the update I was referring to this datasheet too,
but I made the reading on bit[0] offset E4,whereas it's bit[3] :D
08-21-2006, 04:02 AM
@njo

are you having problems with Gigabyte DS4?
08-22-2006, 05:28 PM
weonline

Hi Felix,
My motherboard is 915G with ddr2 533 4-4-4-12, i can modify all main parameter except CL --- the most important parameter (now i working at 4-3-2-4), i have tried all version of memset but none of them can change CL. i'm very confident that my ddr2 can work at CL3, pls help me.

Tks & B.rgds
08-24-2006, 09:32 PM
therat

Do these settings appear right for standard 5-5-5-15? The 42T for tRFC seems a big high or is that usual?

CAS# Latency (CL) - 5T
RAS# to CAS# (tRCD) - 5T
RAS# Precharge (tRP) - 5T
Cycle Time (tRAS) - 15T
Row Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC) -42T
RAS to RAS Delay (tRRD) - 3T
Read to Write Delay (tRTW) - 8T
Write to Read Delay (tWTR) - 5T
08-25-2006, 12:44 PM
FELIX

Weonline-> it's seem that it's practically impossible to changing Cas# with DDR2,
and I don't know Why...

Therat-> 42T is a normal value for 5.5.5.15 timings.
08-25-2006, 05:58 PM
therat

Quote:

Originally Posted by FELIX

Therat-> 42T is a normal value for 5.5.5.15 timings.

great. thanks
08-27-2006, 11:41 PM
epox4life

I have 2 sticks of kingston and 2 sticks of g.skill and this is the error I get when using all 4 sticks at once.

http://star.walagata.com/w/fetuskiller/memset.JPG
08-28-2006, 07:22 AM
BottomsUp

Quote:

Originally Posted by epox4life

I have 2 sticks of kingston and 2 sticks of g.skill and this is the error I get when using all 4 sticks at once.

http://star.walagata.com/w/fetuskiller/memset.JPG

I get this same exact error with my setup if i try to set timings tighter then 4449 on my 2x1GB G.skill HZ. My computer runs fine, but for some reason i can't get tighter then 4449

Setting tighter timings in bios still shows 4449 in memset and cpuz
08-28-2006, 09:52 AM
FELIX

->epox4life,BottomUp:I send you a PM...
08-28-2006, 03:03 PM
IluvIntel

Hi Felix, thank you for what seems an interesting program. However I went to install it, into its own directory and thus folder and I get this message saying
"The driver TVicport can not be found"
Others seem to be able to get it running, but I don't know what is up with this.
My motherboard is the one in my signature. :)
08-29-2006, 05:53 PM
BottomsUp

FELIX you have a PM. That version fixed my bug.

Wierd thing is if i set 4444 via bios CPUZ still reads 4449. Any idea what is causing that? Is my RAM really running 4444 or is the DS3 somehow not applying these changes correctly?
08-29-2006, 06:35 PM
wwwww

Quote:

Originally Posted by IluvIntel

Hi Felix, thank you for what seems an interesting program. However I went to install it, into its own directory and thus folder and I get this message saying
"The driver TVicport can not be found"
Others seem to be able to get it running, but I don't know what is up with this.
My motherboard is the one in my signature. :)

Run the install inf file. ;)

----

On another note, is there a 64bit version?
08-29-2006, 07:32 PM
rorojiao

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Hello FELIX:
Thank you for create this tool:) It's So useful tool.
But, It can't work in my ASUS A3 notebook PC 915GM board.
When I change the CAS, the windows crash.
I try to change the value of CAS up or down, the windows always crash.

So the result is the value marked by red can not be changed.(Cause windows crash)

The other values can be changed.(work normally).
I have attached the picture below:
I have tested it in another notbook PC of ASUS A6, the case is same:(

Could have a look with it, Thanks a lot!
08-29-2006, 11:57 PM
rorojiao

FELIX
I don't know is memset support 915PM/GM or not?
Could you add it or fixed it ?
08-30-2006, 01:56 AM
rorojiao

BTW
I found the datasheet of the Mobile 915PM/GM/GMS here.

http://developer.intel.ru/download/d...s/30526401.pdf

May be it can help you a bit.
08-30-2006, 08:07 AM
chrisf6969

Quote:

Originally Posted by IluvIntel

Hi Felix, thank you for what seems an interesting program. However I went to install it, into its own directory and thus folder and I get this message saying
"The driver TVicport can not be found"
Others seem to be able to get it running, but I don't know what is up with this.
My motherboard is the one in my signature. :)

READ the ReadMe file.

You need to right click & install the install.inf file

I'm getting that same weird reading error on my DS3. I happens randomly (not all the time) I have memory set to 5-5-5-15 in BIOS, everything else on Auto at 300FSB 1:1 ratio (ie: only DDR2 600 for my DDR2 667 ram)

http://www.crowdcontrolusa.com/overclock/cas=wtf.jpg

Any IDEAS? Is this a stability related problem? Or just a reading error?
08-30-2006, 10:47 AM
RatusNatus

I dont have any problem with this app on my MSI 915G combo.

Also no problem with CPU-z used with the very same time.
CPU-Z update his repport 1 second after the change.

Runs like a charm, thanks.
08-30-2006, 10:51 AM
RatusNatus

Quote:

Originally Posted by rorojiao

Hello FELIX:
Thank you for create this tool:) It's So useful tool.
But, It can't work in my ASUS A3 notebook PC 915GM board.
When I change the CAS, the windows crash.
I try to change the value of CAS up or down, the windows always crash.

So the result is the value marked by red can not be changed.(Cause windows crash)

The other values can be changed.(work normally).
I have attached the picture below:
I have tested it in another notbook PC of ASUS A6, the case is same:(

Could have a look with it, Thanks a lot!

Man if you are trying to put "3" over there, the Windows crash simply cuz your memo dont support this timing. Try to set it to 5.
08-30-2006, 11:58 AM
FELIX

Here is a new beta version:

MemSet22beta2

-Add support for A64(ddr&ddr2)

-Add some highers value in each combos on 965 chipsets.
-add a box "Lock mchbar when close" on 965 chipsets.

Normal operation is:Unlock mchbar(where are timings registers)->
Read,and eventualy write values->Lock mchbar when close the application;
but some 965 motherboards don't accept a second accesin mchbar,
it's why memset read [-7.7.7.-.-.63.-.-.-...] and cpu-z 10.15.15.31.
Then i add a box "Lock mchbar when close" on 965 chipsets.
This box is checked by defaut,uncheck it if you have this problem.
If you are sure you finished to use memset and cpu-z,
advise to check again for Lock mchbar.
08-30-2006, 06:26 PM
rorojiao

Quote:

Originally Posted by RatusNatus

Man if you are trying to put "3" over there, the Windows crash simply cuz your memo dont support this timing. Try to set it to 5.

Yes, I have tried to set it to 5.....Crash still occur:( I don't know why...
I asked FELIX for that. He told me the CAS of DDR2 can't be changed:(
08-31-2006, 04:34 AM
FELIX

...on some motherboards,not all.
09-02-2006, 03:35 AM
FELIX

Not necessary to install/uninstall driver with this version:

MemSet.zip
09-02-2006, 06:37 AM
Harshal

Gonna give it a try on P5B-Dlx...
Thanks, Felix.
09-02-2006, 09:05 AM
Lestat

guys if you had read the thread instead of going right to the last page you would have seen Felix said exactly why it gives the wierd readings and how NOT to let it do that.
09-03-2006, 04:44 AM
P@pi

Thx FELIX for solving my issue :D, new beta release works fine with my M6VA laptop, thx a lot :clap:
09-04-2006, 04:41 AM
bl1zZ

Hi Felix, Memset doesnt work for me on x64.
Could you fix it?

Regards
09-04-2006, 05:46 AM
smart1

Felix thanks for a great piece of software, can you please advice the tightest timings or at least the place where I can learn in for my 2x 1024MB Corsair Twin2X2048-6400. Currently running with my 805D (200x20) 800Mhz 4-4-4-12 2.1V on Asus P5B mobo. cheers. Zhenya
09-04-2006, 09:26 AM
Shpoon

Can someone explain to someone retarded like me how to set these timings? I do it, and no matter what, I can't get tehm to stick after startup...
09-07-2006, 10:28 PM
rorojiao

New version still crash the system on my ASUS A3(915PM):(
09-11-2006, 12:56 AM
bachus_anonym

@ FELIX,

Hi! I would like to report couple bugs I found, while playing around with on ASUS P5B Deluxe (Intel 965P) and your latest beta Memset:

- amount of memory incorrectly reported as 2048MB instead of 4096MB --> screenshot,

- memory ratio incorrectly reported as DDR2-666 (4:5) instead of DDR2-889 (3:5) --> screenshot,
Thanks :toast:
09-11-2006, 04:47 AM
ben ifin

Hi Felix

I have a P5B Dlx and d/l the latest Memset Beta 2.2

My problem ?

The Memset window/program does not fully display - I try to re-size it so that I can see all the settings, but no go.

I have a *lot* of my XP Services DISABLED to maximize machine efficency.

I'm wonderingthen does Memset require certain XP SERVICES to be running in order to properly display ?

I am running XP SP2.

Thx,
Ben
09-11-2006, 05:31 AM
FELIX

...have you tried with all service enabled?
I never had this problem until now...
09-11-2006, 03:41 PM
ben ifin

Hi Felix

Any particular or key Services you would suugest ? SO I dont have to re-enable all of them to find just one [ if that is the problem ? ]

Many thx,
Ben
09-11-2006, 08:27 PM
FELIX

What is your screen resolution?
09-12-2006, 12:22 AM
ben ifin

1600 x 1200 - tried 1280 x 1024 and still no go

Ben
09-12-2006, 05:09 AM
FELIX

I updated MemSet for 3.0 version:

MemSet3.0.zip

If I resume changes between 2.1:
-add support for Intel 965 ,AMD A64 ddr&ddr2;
-not necessary to install/uninstall driver;
-Save function was simplified.
-finally all the code was changed... :)
09-12-2006, 05:41 AM
bing

Felix, thank you ! :)
09-14-2006, 04:46 AM
[XC] Fifty

Very nice works great.
09-14-2006, 04:52 AM
[XC] Fifty

Very nice works great.
09-14-2006, 05:12 AM
Zulusman

Deos memset works on x64 ?
I`m trying to get Read Delay 7, but no go :(
09-14-2006, 05:37 AM
Pyr0

No, MemSet isn't x64 compatible yet :(
I'm waiting for x64 support too since it's my main OS
09-14-2006, 07:09 AM
RichUK

Quote:

Originally Posted by BottomsUp

I get this same exact error with my setup if i try to set timings tighter then 4449 on my 2x1GB G.skill HZ. My computer runs fine, but for some reason i can't get tighter then 4449

Setting tighter timings in bios still shows 4449 in memset and cpuz

odd. I can run 4-4-4-5 at 450Mhz with those sticks with 2.1v on the P5B D
09-14-2006, 01:13 PM
The_Hardstylez

Nice program :)

Thanks Felix .
09-14-2006, 07:06 PM
rorojiao

3.0 still crashed my laptop.(ASUS 915PM)
09-14-2006, 10:47 PM
[cTx]Philosophy

Thanx for this..
Been needin this for a while..
09-14-2006, 10:53 PM
aggybong

Anyone else having problems after opening it once, closing it, then trying to open it again? Most of the values appear blank, and the few that do are incorrect. Rebooting fixes it, but...eh.

P5B-D with 0614.
09-14-2006, 11:50 PM
bing

Close it by clicking the [X] window's button the upper right corner of the Memset program instead of [Exit] button.
09-15-2006, 12:05 AM
aggybong

Edit: Nevermind, I quickly scanned through all the pages and found out why it's like this.

Edit2: And it's also in the readme! Doh!
09-15-2006, 12:08 AM
htkm1

Quote:

Originally Posted by aggybong

Anyone else having problems after opening it once, closing it, then trying to open it again? Most of the values appear blank, and the few that do are incorrect. Rebooting fixes it, but...eh.

P5B-D with 0614.

Yeah I'm having the same problem.
09-15-2006, 04:13 AM
tzitzos

Quote:

Originally Posted by FELIX

I updated MemSet for 3.0 version:

MemSet3.0.zip

If I resume changes between 2.1:
-add support for Intel 965 ,AMD A64 ddr&ddr2;
-not necessary to install/uninstall driver;
-Save function was simplified.
-finally all the code was changed... :)

thx felix ;) ;)
09-15-2006, 08:03 AM
alpha0ne

Thanks Felix, great work :clap: :toast: :woot:
09-20-2006, 08:45 AM
Direwolf

It was working for a minute and after I set the wrong timing the computer crashed. Restarted and now its telling me "The driver TVicPort can not be found"

I"ve tried the original folder and redl'ed with same error, took it out of startup and same problem. no install file or inf as I can see in version 3.0 which is all I have. any tips?
09-21-2006, 12:03 AM
fullmetal

Ummm...how do u use it...i have a e6600, bad axe, and 1gb corsair 675
09-21-2006, 03:18 AM
ben ifin

Hi Felix - 2 things / bugs re: Memset I have found

Firstly (a) when a user changes the Display DPI Setting from the Normal 96 DPI to anything else, Memset does not adjust its display accordingly - just pick CUSTOM and slide to a DPI setting of say 120 or 130 or higher and you'll see what I mean.

Secondly (b) when I set Memset and re-boot it works fine *but* CPUz will not display memory timings anymore *and* Memset cannot be opened.

Hope the above feedback is of help.

Regardless, you are to be hugely commended for providing such a useful program !!!!!

Great stuff Felix !

Ben
09-26-2006, 11:58 PM
metro.cl

version 3.0 works with asus p5b deluxe?
09-27-2006, 12:00 AM
Viss

Yes it does
09-27-2006, 09:06 AM
neo2005th

Great, on my 865 chipset looks some different the window in graphic aspect, put the functions looks the sames on older versions.
09-27-2006, 09:50 AM
metro.cl

Quote:

Originally Posted by loc.o

Yes it does

tryed it but i wont work properly :(

al latencies desapear from cpu-z and memset itself
09-27-2006, 02:22 PM
corvus_corax

Quote:

Originally Posted by metro.cl

tryed it but i wont work properly :(

al latencies desapear from cpu-z and memset itself

Hi metro!
That happened to me with early bios in P5B dlx, and if remember well if i click in Exit button :D . With 0507 or newer is all fine.
09-28-2006, 06:32 AM
FELIX

->metro.cl:read post #234.
09-28-2006, 06:44 AM
VictorWang

great job man, we all appreciate that :D
10-06-2006, 01:20 AM
FELIX

Here is a little soft which allow you to access mchbar:

MchbarEdit.zip

It's work on 865/875 and 9xx chipsets.
You can read and write with it,and save the reading in a text.
(see datasheet before use :) )
10-06-2006, 01:33 AM
bing

As always, many thanks for the efforts Felix ! :worship:
10-07-2006, 01:46 AM
Vikodemous

Wanted to thank you for your hard work on a sweet program FELIX http://www.puretna.com/pic/smilies/thankyou.gif
10-08-2006, 06:47 PM
swiftex

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Felix, WHY'S THIS HAPPEN?

Hi Felix,

Why does this happen? I cannot stretch it or anything.

Thanks, michael (P5B Dlx)
10-08-2006, 06:51 PM
ghettotech

change you theme or text. MS-San serif (or what ever the default is called) should fix the issue.
10-08-2006, 09:07 PM
alpha0ne

And crop that 'kin image to a sensible size :slapass:
10-08-2006, 09:36 PM
FELIX

I'll fix that in the afternoon.
10-08-2006, 10:59 PM
kenofstephen

Felix, what is the best way to use this nice program?

trial and error for each timing??

thx.
10-09-2006, 07:47 AM
FELIX

Because MemSet use different windows size (according to chipset),
You must use normal size (96ppp) to use this software;
if you want to change it:
Office->Right click->Property->Parameters->Advanced->General:
Choose 'normale size'.

Sorry for this disadvantage...
10-09-2006, 08:24 AM
swiftex

No problem, really appreciate the effort and time you have dedicated to this.

Thanks again!
10-09-2006, 08:29 PM
JokerCPoC

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyr0

No, MemSet isn't x64 compatible yet :(
I'm waiting for x64 support too since it's my main OS

crap, Me too. :( :( :(
10-09-2006, 08:45 PM
kenofstephen

Quote:

Originally Posted by JokerCPoC

crap, Me too. :( :( :(

come on, you should give some respects to Felix right?
10-10-2006, 01:53 PM
RatusNatus

Remember, this is for FREE!!!
10-10-2006, 02:41 PM
Lestat

Quote:

Originally Posted by swiftex

Hi Felix,

Why does this happen? I cannot stretch it or anything.

Thanks, michael (P5B Dlx)

you NEED to change your font and icon size along with that resolution your running.
i guess you have bad eyesite ? if not then change it thats the only way its going to work for you and the way you have your desktop setup
10-10-2006, 03:07 PM
swiftex

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lestat

you NEED to change your font and icon size along with that resolution your running.
i guess you have bad eyesite ? if not then change it thats the only way its going to work for you and the way you have your desktop setup

Bad eyesite? You picked up on that rather quickly.
Changed font and everythings, aok!

Thanks everyone, and, especially Felix and Sam!!!! I'm sure I'm forgetting to mention a few hundred other people that deserve accreditation one way or another!
10-10-2006, 08:59 PM
kenofstephen

how to use it properly? i am confused.
10-10-2006, 09:30 PM
STEvil

2 Attachment(s)

Here's a dump from my laptop, if it helps anything ;) Intel 945GM/PM/GT
10-10-2006, 10:36 PM
kenofstephen

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEvil

Here's a dump from my laptop, if it helps anything ;) Intel 945GM/PM/GT

no offence.....but.....why do you overclock your laptop??
10-10-2006, 10:49 PM
alpha0ne

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenofstephen

no offence.....but.....why do you overclock your laptop??

Muwahahahaah thats the best thing I have heard all week :party:

This IS XS :eek: :D :banana:
10-10-2006, 10:53 PM
kenofstephen

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpha0ne

Muwahahahaah thats the best thing I have heard all week :party:

This IS XS :eek: :D :banana:

LOL, let's rock baby :banana: :banana: :banana:
10-11-2006, 07:45 AM
FELIX

->STEvil:try this version:
MemSet.zip
10-11-2006, 09:18 AM
P@pi

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenofstephen

no offence.....but.....why do you overclock your laptop??

Sometimes RAM latency is very useful, eg. if you have onboard VGA (laptop) that use RAM modules as its video memory it helps your performance a lot (more than a lot :p:). It also helps to hypermemory/turbocache with nononboard card - like my laptop's x700.

And the last thing... OC/performance tuning rocks :D.
10-11-2006, 01:10 PM
RatusNatus

will you add suppor to to via chipsets? chipset 880 PRO ?
10-11-2006, 05:28 PM
G H Z

Nice little Tweaker, thanks FELIX :toast:

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