anyone have a pic showing the measuring points for the vdimm on the Msi Neo 2 Plat, i currently have my Booster @ 3.4v @ 255 for my VX but want to use my multimeter to make confirm the voltage.
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anyone have a pic showing the measuring points for the vdimm on the Msi Neo 2 Plat, i currently have my Booster @ 3.4v @ 255 for my VX but want to use my multimeter to make confirm the voltage.
There's a circle above the forth memory slot with two dots, one in the white area and the other in the black area. The black one is where you measure the VDIMM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wingz
Quote:
Originally Posted by arj
thanks arj http://www.pclincs.co.uk/Forums/imag...lies/thumb.gif
3.5v - 266mhz
3.6v - 268mhz ---MAX tried 3.7v @ 270mhz not stable
bob you reached max then.
DAMN 268! You must get like 30ns latency with that.
i dunno about 30ns, i only get 34ns at 260, you are talking about everest right? i haven't tried getting into windows at 268mhz because i'd have to use 9multi, my cpu maxes out at 2.67ghz, 268mhz in dual channel, wonder what i could get in single channel.... might try it when i get bored
It seems at least one of my VX sticks doesn't respond to burn-in at all. 4 days (& nights ;) ) of testing, I've tried also various chipset voltage adjustments just in case, have had 3 sessions of continuous 8hour memtest runs, and many not so long ones, the errors just keep coming where they did previously.
odb, thankyou I have added your results :)
TEDY, it's almost certain your chipset is limiting you... wait till you go to a nice AMD64 setup and the MHz should climb ;)
bobmanfoo, updated your results too dude... very nice :toast:
Here's my results. They all pass at least 25 loops of Test #5 at 2-2-2-5 and the voltages are taken with a multimeter and are within 0.03v
3.1v - 209Mhz
3.2v - 222Mhz
3.3v - 242Mhz
3.4v - 259Mhz
3.5v - 261Mhz
3.6v - 263Mhz
really hope so or vdimm.....soon i'll have vdimm pencil mod done :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabbi_NZ
enok, changed your results as per PM request
arj, thanks a lot for the thorough testing. it's appreciated :)
your results have been added.
TEDY,
if CPC OFF lets you get higher it usually points to chipset limit... unfortunately, though, with 2x512mb extra vdd does very little in my experience with nF2... once you hit the limit, you've hit the limit.
nah also with cpc off 255 i get tens of errors 2*512...
so must be chipset eh ? i should go to someone with DFI NF3 and check there ? :P
with CPC off my chips do no better either. ARJ your chips are seeming to be just like mine. About 242-243 max at 3.3v. I hope I can get as high as you with 3.5v though.
Oh that is weird. Exact same error and only 1 per pass. Maybe that one part of the IC is very sensitive to voltage? Do you think you can burn that out over time?
PLEASE, POST YOUR PCB REVISION ASWELL AS CHIP'S DATE AND LATENCY, IN ORDER TO MAKE A BETTER "CONTRIBUTION"! :p:
sorry but i had to put it on caps! :D
/me :slap: enok
Modified 1st thread... thanks for the suggestion :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by enok
Good point. But I'm personally not going to remove the heatspreaders until I test my VX in A64 operation to see their true (in)capability. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabbi_NZ
and what about P4 results?
hmmm, looks like you need to reconfigure your averages... you've got four 3.6v examples, yet the average is of only two. dunno what else is outdated.
just figured i give you a nudge to get that sorted. ;)
No one has posted them... it would be great to get some though
uh... looking through the 1st post, i see four people with mhz's beside the 3.6v part....
pik-ard,
jus a misunderstanding bro... i was answering the Intel question, we must have posted at the same time.
i havent updated averages in a few days.. i will tonight wen i get home from work. jus havent had time last few days.
oh, i see now. sounds good. :)
Msi k8n neo2 plat
2x512mb OCZ VX
booster
3,2:
240mhz
memtest stable.
3,5v:
http://img135.exs.cx/img135/5972/273sandra1fp.jpg
:banana: :banana: :banana:
Thats not memtest stable though
How high can you go memtest stable?
Dont know yet, but i'm running 230mhz 2-2-2-5@ 3,2 24/7Quote:
Originally Posted by Garrett
i got one stick that can do 270 @ 3.5v and one that could do 255 and now it does not like voltages above 3.3v or i get errors .
I will contribute to this thread soon as my DFI is modded.
Seems me and Tedy have the same sticks...Hopefully I can get 260 :toast:
Great job everyone..Begining to love this forum..Team work
Esdee..Good luck..shoot for 270 :toast:
ok good news
my MSI is crap!
my twinmos (the ones i had since the beginning - not speed premioums)
did 240 at 3.2V (Vio modded the MSI)
i you can recall 240 was my limit with 3.55 too!
odd wall. Monday ill have the DFI ultra, so we will have some 260+ action!
forgot to mention
MSI Neo2 1.3b6 BIOS Vio modded
Winchester 3500+
Twinmos UTT (not speed premioums) 04514 AA4T ending P/N
240@2-2-2-5@3.2V full load,3.3V idle
El Snorro,
could you test your modules to find their max MEMTEST STABLE point for voltages 3.1v,3.2v,3.3v,3.4v,3.5v,3.6v please?
for more info bout MemTest/timings requirements check out first post in this thread.
Wingz, you too please :)
godsa, thanks dude... look forward to your results.
esdee, once you get the DFI would you mind posting results too please?
cheers all :toast:
Hello
Sorry I dont have any contributions, but I have a question
My prime95 keeps giving me calculation errors? Even at pc3200 speeds with the correct timings
Sometimes it will work, and sometimes not
But I've been able to do 2-2-2-4 at 220 with 3.35 volts so far
mobo wont boot above 220 :(
ordered a dfi ultra-d so it should be here wednesday then the fun begins ;P
Hopefully theres nothing wrong with the ram and its just my mobo acting funny
Holy sheeeeeet!
Wingz, what are your complete specs dude?
Timings, Components, Cooling...
That is amazing!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wingz
amazing bro holy sheeeeet indeed :toast: :banana4:
maybe it is because you have version 1.0?
argg rabbi your the 5th person to ask me that question and the specs are in my sig.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabbi_NZ
i have a 92mm fan attached to the zalman bracket cooling the ram.
Could you give complete timings please?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wingz
Also, how good is your other stick?
Ay guys..im trying to test out those TMII400 sticks I have and need some assistance on my timings as well
Tras 6
Trcd(read)3
trcd(write)2
trp2
cas latency 2
trc 12
trfc 14
all the rest are on auto
Scratch the 250 i just finished 255 for 15 passes..looks ok so far..260 did give errors tho
I did 250 with no errors..but I am clueless if these timing are correct or not..
3.3 v
for some reason the other stick now does 260 but still does not like voltages 3.4v or above so i am now able to run both sticks @ 260 - 2-2-2-10 with 3.3v on the booster (multimeter shows 3.35v)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabbi_NZ
http://www.hvweb.co.uk/wingz/260%2Ejpg
Would you mind testing them from 3.1v-3.6v as described in first post please? :)
erm... :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabbi_NZ
beer distracted meQuote:
Originally Posted by pik-ard v1.1
lol, you've gotta catch one of those "sober" moments while you've got the chance. ;)
Remenber this stuff was http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduc...218-062&depa=0
Pics of the memory and stuff all the identifying marks
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...753#post696753
Ok Im done with my contribution..here ya go..and guys thanks everyone here is awesome.
All this was memtest stable for 25 passes
Tras 10
Trcd(read)2
trcd(write)2
trp2
cas latency 2
trc 10
trfc 15
I did manage to go further with the trfc 15
3.1v 254
3.2v 257
3.3v 261
Enjoy when i get the other sticks of Speed I will post as well
Specs let me c...
92mm Tornado on the chips...
DFI "LANPARTY NFII ULTRA B" stock bios..no mods
2600 Mobile (Stock Cooling)
The Memory chip numbers..
TWINMOS
512mb chips
05034
TMD7608F8Ε50D
Pic of them...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=23897
TwinMOS Dual Channel Kit 184-Pin 1GB(512MB x 2) DDR PC-3200, Model TMII400/1GB - OEM
Want to add..one stick absolutely sucked...only did like 240 and thats just horrible...
does lower cpu multi really help in memtest?
godsa,
thanks :)
Could you list your specs please...:
Brand & Amount of memory
Motherboard/chipset
Not for meQuote:
Originally Posted by MarilynMX
MarilynMX - I just noticed that you're running at 3.9VDIMM. That is beyond wicked, man. :slobber: Did you measure that voltage on a multimeter to confirm it?
Upgraded averages on first page... they will not be accurate for all platforms due to the fact they include all dimm sizes, chipsets, brands, cooling, etc... but some will find it useful :)
conrad, il pm soon as i get some food in my belly! good to see you round again bro.
Conrad: I dont have multimeter so I cannot find out if the volt shown on booster is accurate. My ram refuse to work at 266MHz w/ VDIMM less than 3.9V(4V idle). I know it's more than weird since I'm the only one with such experience. Another thing is booster is not affected by tunning in-BIOS VDIMM(which is totally different from my previous RMA'd booster).
PS I noticed FSB(HTT) range ocassionally varies in Corecenter. For example, I set 240x11 1:1, FSB range varies from 23xMHz to 25xMHz sometimes, that was abit freaky but same thing doesnt happen on cpu-z.
My computer reboots ocassionally without bluescreen or any other warnings. vcore 1.50~1.54, 3.3/5/12 = 3.34/5.08/12.56~12.74, VDIMM idle up to 4V depending on FSB. anyone can help me figure out the probable reason?
ok max voltage i can use is 3.4v because one stick of ram does not like voltages higher than that...
3.1v = 238 MHz
3.2v = 241 MHz
3.3v = 255 MHz
3.4v = 262 MHz
3.5v = N/A
3.6v = 275 MHz (with only the good stick of ram)
Thanks Wingz :), results and averages updated
Just moved to DFI nF4 SLI-D.
My results so far: (2x512 this time, of course)
3.3v = 258 Mhz
3.4v = 262 Mhz
Any higher voltage, and I'm getting tons of errors even at the speeds listed here. Any ideas why? The fan is blowing over the rams, so they shouldn't overheat.
mrlobber, try then individually like Wingz did... maybe only one module dislikes voltage.
Nice improvement over nF2 :toast:
your previous resultsQuote:
Originally Posted by mrlobber
mrlobber(1x512, OCZ VX, DFI nF2 Infinity)
3.1v = N/A
3.2v = 243 MHz
3.3v = 247 MHz // 258 on DFI NF4
3.4v = N/A
3.5v = N/A
3.6v = N/A
can you try 3.1 and 3.3v also
everything in DC ? :toast:
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrlobber
no offense thats a nice clock but i dont think its helpful to the readers of this thread to say you got to an unstable speed... sorry but thats just IMO.
what mrlobber said is higher VOLTAGE causes errors, he is stable there with current voltage
oh i understand now....Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabbi_NZ
sorry, my mistake.
TEDY (2x512, TwinMOS UTT 0503 44D KO6633, DFI nF2 Infinity)
just checked them ....they're 44D and KO 6633
these averages are so on the money its not funny :p:
AVERAGES
3.1v = 237 MHz (from 8 results)
3.2v = 243 MHz (from 14 results)
3.3v = 253 MHz (from 16 results)
3.4v = 258 MHz (from 8 results)
3.5v = 261 MHz (from 6 results)
3.6v = 264 MHz (from 7 results)
Great job with the thread
Well, a little update.
All of a sudden this morning memtest gets out some errors and then FREEZES at @ 260x10 3.4Vdimm where previously it was able to loop more than 10hours of th #5th test error free. Haven't tested lower, but I suspect, I might get the infamous "sudden clocks drop on VX" some people have already experienced. Of course, I need more testing to confirm or deny this, but the point is, at the moment now my combo is not memtest stable at the speeds and exactly the same settings where it was before (and ambient temps have not changed either, they're even a bit lower). Interesting...
mrlobber,
I suppose you have a fan blowing on your memory to keep the heat down? Heat kills!
Has it been warmer in your area and possibly is something else acting up? I know that if you use the 5v memory feature on the DFI NF4 it can create tremendous heat, so be sure to cool the board in the power section with the heatsinks also.
2 X 512MB TMSP ~ AA4T ~ 0503 ~ 44D
Motherboard ~ Abit AS8 (i865PE)
3.25v ~ 200 FSB
3.30v ~ 209 FSB
3.35v ~ 225 FSB
3.40v ~ 250 FSB
3.50v ~ 253 FSB
3.60v ~ 255 FSB
This latest result obtained after 12 hours burned-in at 3.5v/250 FSB. The chips getting better each day after more burned-in. Now, I am looping test #5 at 3.6v/255 FSB for at least 8 hours more. Hopefully 255 FSB is not the end of the journey. The only problem is the OCZ DDR Booster fluctuated as much as 0.15v. I am dreaming of Hipro5's Maximizer.
Andy, thanks for the heads up.Quote:
Originally Posted by andyOCZ
Of course, I'm using a fan over the memory, and cooling the edge of the board as well (I touched it myself to check how hot it is even when actively cooled). The board sits exactly at the same place where it did previously (along with all the fans mounted with tricky constructions :D ), bios settings are exactly the same. As I said, even the ambient temps are lower.
Yesterday, it run 10 hours (during night) 261x10 completely error free. Today, EXACTLY at the same settings, it gave out a dozen of errors during the first 10 passes, and then froze. I rebooted fine, lowered the fsb by 2, leaving everything else untouched, and it froze again. Then I had to rush to work, but that doesn't feel good at all.
my VX replacements will be here today WOOT WOOT!:D i wsill be suer to test the shizza out of them...
mrlobbler:
maybe some more volts are in order?
could be a result of the burn in that the chips need more volts to run at previously easy speeds, ive heard of that before, my bh-5 did 255 at 3.3v and then when i went up to 3.6 270 was easy, but when i went back to 3.3 i could no longer perform at 255...it now took 3.4 for 255...
now i think that memory is dead though so i havent been able to prove that theory properly, its just something you might want to try.
andyOCz you were just saying alot of these modules are loseing the lower speeds.. like my 3-3-3-8 wasnt stable with 2.9vdimm and my 2-2-2-5 wasnt stable till 3.2 then 3.2 was good all the way up tp 252mhz... this ram is evolveing :toast:
then i ran into this problem>>> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=52766
also RAB* you didnt ever update when i got 260mhz with 3.6 on the last set :toast:
will you be adding this new set to the results too?
running 2-3-3-8 2.7v to mine at the moment, working fine.
Awesome, post. Very helpful info.
I prolly shouldn't ask here but where does one get Twinmos UTT in the US? Although it looks like I will buy VX.
My Corsair 4400C25 turned out to be a big disappointment. :stick:
2x512 UTT fed 3.5v using RAM booster on Neo2
http://www.geocities.com/puyuh81/kecik.JPG
Once i get my new psu (hopefully today) Ill definetly be running tests all day :D
^^^yeah thats what i thought till i got a bios checksom error :mad: cant figure out wtf is wrong. :stick:
I will add all the new results including your 260 MHz @ 3.6vDimm.. jus need some time.Quote:
Originally Posted by aCidbAbY
Where did you see andyOCZ say these modules were losing their bottom end bro... i didnt see that.
Reason I ask is it seems my modules are loosing their 3.1v speed at the moment... although temps here are 25c-30c right now so it would well be jus the temperature.
I used to be stable at 248 MHz 3.1v 2-2-2, now 240 MHz gives errors at same settings... funny thing is at 3.2v they started off being stable at 256 MHz and not even close at 257... now I can run memtest on 257 for bout 30 minutes before i get errors, and this is with the same high ambients.
eh? where can i read up on this? strange i had the same thing happen to me, i was running 260mhz at 3.4v then one morning it was unstable, had to bump vdimm up to 3.52v then all was well.....Quote:
Originally Posted by mrlobber
Well, I've been testing with my old psu(new one gets here monday)
And it wasnt giving me enough voltage, so I unplugged all except my pump, 2 ram cooling fans, and my radiator fan and floppy drive
Im currently burning in at 3.2volts at 255mhz but im getting 2 errors every loop so
I'll post some official results once I get my new PSU
You guys think I should jump it upto like 3.5 volts for burn in? or gradually get to 3.5?
Gonna do 3.3 tonight while im at work so
on msn i was talking to him about my VX replacements. we were both noticeing that fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabbi_NZ
oh and i got some thing for you :banana:
all results are 2-2-2-10 1T
200mhz wasnt stable until 3.2vdimm 3.1 was fine but got some errors hence the bottom gone!
210 wasnt stable @ 3.1 either but less errors WTF go figure
220 3.2vdimm
225 3.2vdimm
230 3.2vdimm
235 3.2vdimm
240 3.2vdimm
245 3.2vdimm
250 3.2vdimm
253 3.2vdimm
255 was good for 3.2vdimm after some burnin
257 3.35vdimm
258 3.4vdimm
260 3.45vdimm
this set seems to be doing way better:toast: i didnt hit 260 last time till 3.6 and even then i had to fight it.
OCZ has some awesome RMA services thx alot andyOCZ :toast:
this is just my first set of results. as you know this ram loves to take its time.. hopefully i will be able to hit 263-265 after some more workout!
i think that if i can get this speed my CPU will find a way to follow..
great job on this thread bro i am happy to contribute.. am i the only one that has results for 2-3 sets?
heh i hope mine will act as weird as yours then . i'm currently stuck with 3.1Vdimm and UTT's wont do 215 stable (+300 errors #5) . I havent tried lower , just set everything to default for now . I need proper cooling on my cpu and more volts on my mem .
are you cooling the memeory? also i tried a lower tras and it gave a little more stablity... i have changed my plan! 260 is just fine for me now i am going for tight timeings... :toast:
Twinmos 2x512mb TMII400
IC: 05034 TMD7608F8E50D
Sticker: M2G9J16A8ATT9F081AA4T
Current system for testing:
DFI Infinity 1/21 beta bios
AMD 2500+ unlocked/ ALX-800 80mm Tornado
Chieftec case with 5 Tornados for case fans
Sparkle 530w PSU
ATI 9500np
mem tested at 2,2,2,2,11,15,18,1t in memtest86+ for minimum 1 hour.
3.0v 198fsb
3.1v 217fsb
3.2v 228fsb
3.3v 243fsb
I am still in the burning in process... I just got the sticks yesterday ;)
I will try next with my AI7 to how it compares on an Intel Platform, and then in an A64 platform with a Chaintech VNF3-350 (which I have not bought the CPU yet, and is going to be the home for this memory w/booster).
Hey bro do you still have the results for your first 2 pairs... if not I will search this thread but it would save time if you had them saved somewhere. I'll upgrade your full results real soon... not tonight tho, it's 11pm and i have a sheeeet load of work this week so best get some shuteye.Quote:
Originally Posted by aCidbAbY
Aah yeh, massive props to both you and justwOo for tipping me off bout dropping Tras to 8 instead of 10.
I am now Memtest stable at
263 2-2-2-8-7-15 3.3v
260+ (didnt test higher) 2-2-2-8-7-15 3.2v
I can load windows and SuperPI-32mb to at least 268 with same timings... but memtest dont wonna play there. I'm also pretty sure 265 3.3v would be stable if i had better cooling, but right now it's summer and my fan is on the case window rather than directly over the RAM so I only run 256 3.2v for daily play...
I'll post the Tras findings in the first post along with some other timing hints i've come across... once it's up feel free to contribute everyone :D
hey EMU your ram is EXACTLY like mine. I have VX and on my DFI LPB NF2 I can only get to exactly 243 with 3.3v. I have been trying to burn in 244 for weeks now but to no prevail. The errors are much less but are still there. I too am running 2 x 512mb sticks. I would be VERY curious to know if you get higher than 243 and how. PM me if you want to share info, compare notes etc.
what about lesser voltage?
can utt running @300mhz with under 3volt?
It cannot run 300mhz. period.Quote:
Originally Posted by Napoleonic
ehmm Rabbi_NZ,
I think u missed my post back there..
more info:
2x512 TwinMOS SP 44D
263MHz 2-2-2-5-1T
3.5v from DDR Booster
Quote:
Originally Posted by neuvas
sorry mate, i'll add your results tonight after work...Quote:
Originally Posted by neuvas
would you mind testing between 3.1v-3.6v? 25 passes of #5 qualifies as stable for this thread.
When I was first testing the memory, I would get a bunch of errors at 244 every other pass. Last night I was burning in at that setting, and I was getting far less. About 2 every 10 passes. I also tryed 245, and I was getting about the same amount that I got the first day at 244. Burning in seems to be doing something, but 244 isnt error free yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by cantankerous
I think I am going to order some alu ramsinks (not the heatspreader) and use some Ceramique and a dab of superglue to adhere them to each chip (just enough so they hold, but still removable). Also I am going to mod a fan to cool them... I think I need some plexi so I can make a mount that is not only effective, but nice looking as well ;)
wow this is a great thread/mem reference you have made here RAB*
congrats on a great sticky:D
Exactly like me EMU. My errors are getting less at 244 but stilil not completely gone. In 270 passes I had 12 errors one night but then the next night I had 24 errors in 100 passes. Go figure?
First post is undergoing some improvements...
wow love the new format you did the first page:up: way more accurate!
cheers bro :)Quote:
Originally Posted by aCidbAbY
averages are up too now
well something is crapping out on me again..
the best i can do is 3.22vdimm anything above that and the whole system clears cmos.. sux
that sux bro... hav you tried the modules individually jus to make SURE it isnt one dodgy IC on one of the modules? If it is you may be able to exchange one of the modules for a matching one
Acidbaby, is that on the DFI nF4 board? If yes, seems kinda similar to my issue - cannot use higher than 3.4Vdimm without massive number of errors.Quote:
Originally Posted by aCidbAbY
My new VX don't do well. Even at 200HTT, 3.2V, 2-2-2-8 it gives me errors in memtest. This with 1T and interleaving on.
Could someone with a DFI nf3 give me a complete list of timings? I've only set them to 2-2-2-8, 1T and interleaving. The rest of the timings is on auto.
This is dissapointing as my BH5 does 270 2-2-2-5 (2x256MB).
w0rd,, 3.2v, 3.3v sweet for me...higher = errors..Quote:
Originally Posted by mrlobber
I run my single 512mb stick of VX (one is faulty, have to RMA them both :(
1.5-2-2-5-7-16 @ 265mhz @ 3.3v
fine at 260mhz @ 3.2v, havent tried higher with 3.2v
memtest stable
Here ya go bro, this is in the order shown in the DFI nF3 754 LanPartyUT BIOS...Quote:
Originally Posted by HaLDoL
1T-2-2-8-2-7-15-0-3-1-2-3072-1-Increase-255-Level2
Also, if you get errors try changing Tref to 3120 instead of 3072, and playing round with Tras can do a lot of good too...
MAKE SURE Trfc IS 15 OR HIGHER ;)
Thanks alot for the help but it still gives me 4 errors in test 5, first pass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabbi_NZ
Some observations: when interleaving is set to disabled, I get more errors. . 200Mhz at 3.2V, 4 errors per pass, 240Mhz at 3.4 gives me only 2 errors per pass. When I up the voltage I get more errors (probably heat issue).
But still .... 200Mhz 2-2-2-5 and 3.2V should be memtest error free, these are stock speeds.
Maybe I've got a bad stick, will test them seperately. I will also try Tref 3120 and try them in dimm1 and 2 (they are now in dimm1 and 3).
Try Tref at 0128, I read here: http://forums.extremeoverclocking.co...&postcount=517 that it gives a few FSB more.
it will also cause your performance to drop a noticable amount... keep that in mindQuote:
Originally Posted by EMU