thx tictac. also, can u see if u can fish out the bank interleave (enable (4way, 2way)/disable) registers for me also?
thx so much;)
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thx tictac. also, can u see if u can fish out the bank interleave (enable (4way, 2way)/disable) registers for me also?
thx so much;)
i dont do any 3d work, but man my 3d stability sux, hehehe.
3dmark 2001 se wasnt too pleasant to me (throwin me back to desktop! what does it think it is!).
must have more registers (**sounding like a zombie**), haha;)
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8372547
here with 237fsb, I can run it in 240fsb too but sometimes the dragontest doesn't want to start then. Some error msg. All other tests work.
Great bios!
you are using locked barton ?
237MHz is quit impressive for locked proc :slap:
Quote:
Originally Posted by tictac
Yupp locked one on aircooling.
Cpumark stable at 247-248fsb. Thnx :)
It's your bioses that made me come this far, so thank you :)
if i get this new bios (the l12 one) will i need to reformat, and where do i get it from?
(i get confused really)
wont need to reformat unless you are running a RAID array and the bios has a different SATA bios in it than you are running now... and thats a maybe, too.
Heres a bunch, there are more if you search "nF7* bios" or "mantaray*, 3dfire*, speedfire*, etc...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...772#post672772
i recommend D26 Manta Ray XT.. it has l12 built in
:lol: i should post this 1 here
TwinMOS Speed Premium (Winbond 44D)
2 x 256MB
240MHz 2-2-2-11 1T (dual channel)
2.93V Vdimm
http://forum.lowyat.net/uploads/post...1106137691.jpg
and D26 Mantarays XT... seems D26 Mantarays XT working really well with latest winbond BH4
Lucky you :slap:
awsome, thanks, so i'll try the D26 manta ray XT, but which do i need? command per clock enabled or disabled? and what does this mean?
think i might try with the wires in as well :S have heard from people that it's best to be safe and have both! this l12 thing seems to vary from pc to pc, people have shown soooooo many different options! is confusing
new board, last one went pop, cpu does 2550mhz 1.9v and rams ocz3500eb, sitting here at 220*11.5 but want more, not modded apart from this bios( XT ), i've modded one before, vdimm mod, but am a bit worried about doing it, hands nto steady, soldering iron is a bit poo.
i think more VDD is required, 1.7 right now, but how much 'penciling' is required to raise VDD a bit? 1.85 maybe? got every pencil ever made i think lol, 2B HB 3B etc...
just need some guidance.
cheers
AcEmAsTr : use a DMM and check original resistance on the resistor. With every drop of 30omhs the voltage increases by 0,1V i think. I got 2,1V once, was a bit frightened. :P
:lol: how i gonna check that? it is not available in bios :slap:Quote:
Originally Posted by pershoot
Anyway here is your Super By Pass & Data Scavenged register
Here is the data base i marked it with yellow line :slap:Code:1) Data Scavenged = 0:0:1 offset F8
Fast = 09
Normal = 0D
2) Super By Pass = 0:0:1 offset FC
Enable = 01
Disable = 00
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=22915
what does command per clock enabled and command per clock disabled mean?
which do i need?
tictac - is there a way to seperate the TRCD-r and TRCD-w values in the nF7(-s) bioses like the Lanparty and Infinity so they can be set in the bios rather than through nF2tweaker? Or opening up CAS 1.5 too maybe?
probably not easily, but figured i'd ask. ;)
thx tictac.
data scavenged rate setting to normal (default is fast) results in immediate lockups when load is presented.
super bypass is selectable without any lockups.
back in the via days, u could enable bank interleave with registers through windows, since bios didnt have the option. thought it could be done on nf2 through registers.
on dfi boards, i have read that it may be disabled?? which would explain the super high fsb potential, and pitted clock for clock with the nf7, the nf7 is a bit faster??
please correct me if anyone out there knows definitively..
thx again tictac:)
NF7-S Rev2.0 Support 1 way Bank Interleave
And it is set to 1 way interleave by factory :)
Stevil... i'm not capable adding / spliting new option in bios :(
right, i fitted my new 2500 m, and wsan't to impressed, couldn't more than 2.4 out of it, so i put on the D26 bios, and now everytime i try and boot, it does up with boot disk error, so i thought i might as well do a re-install of windows, but when i tried to install the S-ATA driver, it wouldn't recognize i was pressing F6, so now i'm stuck and don't no what to do :(
can anyone help please?
thanks
right, managed to get the s - ata drivers installed
but now, after it's done the initial install on teh blue screen, and it's re-booted, it goes back intothe setup menu again, have check in bios, and set all boot up devices to HDD to make sure, and it still does it :S
grrrrr
any help?
thanks
reflash the bios again :P
OMG, i was emailing and suddenly my pc freezed and now it won't boot. byebye nf7 :( Its so weird. All the other parts seem ok somehow o_0. Might this be some form of bios corruption. I was using the d26 manta rays xt.
i can't get into windows to do it!
everytime i boot, it says boot disk error, and can't get any farther!
am on a different pc at the moment!
thanks
use the other pc to flash as long as its got the same bios type socket.
I just got 2x512 Corsair XMS 3200 BH6 sticks. Will this work well with D26 Mantarays XT CPC ON on the NF7S-v2? I used to have 2x256 CH5 + 1x512 BH6 and that did not work well with CPC ON. Right now I am using CPC OFF, but I want cpc on...it's sweet. I am getting the OCZ DDR Booster soon to crank up the voltage a little. 2.9 won't get me far enough :cool: Just wondering if I should flash to CPC ON again...I guess it's just a matter of testing it out.
-Atle
Doh...It won't run prime95 with CPC ON. Are there any tweaks that can make it work or is it just hopeless with 2x512mb? Got 830 more points in 3dmark01 with CPC ON than with CPC OFF running at the same speed (12x217). Ram timings: 2-2-3-11.
-Atle
unfortunable, the other pc i'm using is the "family" one, and it's well and truley crap!!! so none matching bios socket dang it!!!!
any other surgestions as to what i can do?
thanks
Hi tictac,
Just want to know if Bios mods cause vido cards to not work?
I drove for 8 hrs to get new Asus 9999 128Mhz GT card got home pulled out old Geforce 4 Ti ultra put in new card and all I got was colour. No bios no boot no windows but it went into windows?
After the usual pull everything out to find what is going onstill the same.
However after putting in the new card I did notice 32 run dill takes along time to load and after taking card out it is still the same even after reload.
Did notice after loading chip set drivers 32run dill takes longer to load and internet explorer shut down ramdomly?Does this mean the board is now crap?
Does anyone have the same trouble
uninstall your previous vga driver before installing new vga to avoid any conflict
Can't wait to try some of these on my NF7. Only one I tried was the d10 manta rays which my board won't boot into windows with.
:lol:
little update
D27 3DFire
Change Log :
- D23 3D Fire Interface
- 3D Fire Ingredients included
- D26 Mantarays XT PCR Patching
Download Link:
1T Timing
http://www.dfimoddedbioses.hostingzero.com...7-3DFire-1T.zip
2T Timing
http://www.dfimoddedbioses.hostingzero.com...7-3DFire-2T.zip
hehe nice tictac :p:
udah... pake nf7s aja lagi hehehe
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8388969 <- tictac I love your work!! :D 240fsb 3dmark stable, with aircooling and tightest timings!
Probably going to try the D27 tomorrow :) thanks for still supplying bioses to us, the faithful NF7-S owners :P lol
Does any of these bioses have problems getting into the bios with the OCZ ddr booster connected? I get a blue line at the bottom of the screen when trying to enter the bios. I got in twice (after many tries), but it froze after a couple of seconds. I can boot into Windows and everything.
-Atle
thats a 'noise' issue and some boards. introduced with d26 and d27 and some boards. hook up a cpu fan to the header, and try dialing the speed slower or faster, and that blue line will dissappear, and youll be able to get in to bios.
Try a different fan header for each fan, its RFI interference.
TicTac - whats different from your bioses and say hellfire's? I can run TRP and TRCD-r at 1 with his but I cant get yours to do it.. but yours give higher and faster numbers at 2-2-2-2 than his at 2-1-2-1 do anyways... what gives?
Quick compare:
XP-M 2500+ @ 2600mhz 2.0v Ricky tweak
2x512 225mhz CH-5 @ 3.35v
Abit nF7 rev 2
Tictact D27 (2-2-2-2-10) ---------- Hellfire D26 9-9-9 (2-1-2-1-10)
Everest Read/Write/Latency
3437/1399/70.9 ------------- 3390/1376/70.1
Sisoft Unbuffered
3493/3330 97%/93% -------- 3487/3298 97%/92%
Sisoft Buffered
1743/1829 48%/51% -------- 1677/1765 47%/50%
Hexus Pifast 10M/Super-PI 1M
54.11/38s ------------------- 56.83/39s
anyone that can host tictacs new d27 bios? the original links have been down for me for the past 2-3 days.. keen to try it out :)
I fetched these out of tictac's new website. :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by di_entropy
D27 3DFire 1T - Corrupt zip archive :(
D27 3DFire 2T - This one is good though.
Edit: edited links...
thanks :toast: .. downloaded 2T version but i'd like to try 1T as im only using 1x512mb ram atm.. other stick died :stick:
anyone have 1t bios zip that is not corrupt they are able to host?
thx
http://www.wcroller.com/los/download...-3DFire-1T.zip
Theres the 1T for ya
Quote:
Originally Posted by tictac
This problem is the same even after fresh reload. As soon as you load chip set driver 4.27 off the disk that came with the mother board on reboot you have the problem.
use different chipset drivers then?
lol... sorry i dont realize thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Torin
I just re-upload the 1T bios again... hope it went finr this time :hehe:
:hehe: .... well done.... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by LorD_Kvadd
Keep pushin it... only stop if it.... :explode:
3D Fire varian not build for sky high FSB seeker... :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
Tight timing is the key factor :)
Mobo nf7s lu kasi ke gua aja... + your TwinMOS winbond 44DQuote:
Originally Posted by setyotomo
tak jalanin ..... 300MHz 2-2-2-5-1T 2x512Mb 4V vdimm :banana: :banana:
Yeah, I am going for tight timings.. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by tictac
Yea tight timings. :)
opps.. didnt check the thread.. here is some more mirrors to go along with stevil's:
http://indabasement.com/ABIT-NF7D27-3DFire-1T.zip
http://indabasement.com/ABIT-NF7D27-3DFire-2T.zip
and here is what i am currently testing with and use:
(trats)
http://indabasement.com/d27_EDc18_1T.zip
http://indabasement.com/d27_EDc18_2T.zip
hey stevil... may i test hellfire's d26 bios? if there is a 2T (cpc off) revision, great, if not thats cool too ...
thx:)
Well, not good results yet. I've gone from being perfectly stable at 235x11.5 @ 1.96V using D26 Mantarays XT CPC ON BIOS to freezing at the desktop/browsing the web using the same settings and the D27 3DFire 1T BIOS.
Also I didn't really notice any difference in memory bandwidth... so, I'm back to the D26 for now until I can get the time to test the D27 2T BIOS. I think my CH-5 is hitting it's wall @ 3.3V as 2T hasn't really helped on the FSB with other BIOS.
have you tried tuning your alphas & ds,sr setings torin?
Can't say that I have... more of a time investment issue than anything. I did download the tweaker, but between all the BIOS changing I've done lately, haven't had time to break down and tweak the alphas.
pershoot - theres a bunch of them.. dont have any on here to upload and no links handy, sorry.
Thanks. It worked. It was the new fan I installed for cooling the RAM and Booster that was running at slow speeds. Cranked up the rpm on it and the Bios appeared. Ran 3dmark01 with XP-M 2400+@11x235 2x512MB CorsairXMS3200 BH6@3.3v 2-3-3-11 CPC ON. Trying to push the timings down to 2-2-2-11, but it's no luck at that speed i think. I know one of the sticks can run with those timings, but the other one is not used as much. Maybe try a little burning in.Quote:
Originally Posted by pershoot
By the way, is anyone else having problems with HalfLife2 and memory errors? I can run 3dMark01, 03 and Prime95 whithout crashing, but HalfLife2 crashes very easily anyways?!?
-Atle
Tictac, I found a D27 bug!!
There is no option to change the nV LAN MAC Address anymore?!?!
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...159#post703159
wow stevil, you sure unburried this thread... I can attest to the high fsb of the manatray and the fsb killingness of hte hell fire.. lol..
Dear members:-
A sad day indeed I had a mega disaster last night I think the power lead from 9800 pro came loose and shorted out and or intermittently made contact spiking….the system.
I smelt a slight electrical smell and switched off immediately……….
Checked found the above problem ……on switch on psu appears to work….board leds light….disks spin + cd drive and fans……..but pc does not boot and hard disk light is on all the time. Also the monitor does not display anything!!!!!
Have I blown the board and the graphics card???? What is the likely damage????
I have a spare NF7m pc …….. I was going to gradually substitute parts into it to find out what is dead…… is this a good plan. Will the XPM2600 boot into a std NF7m???
or does the bios need tweaking…..if so which bios do I need….would Manatray XT D26 work ok????
Any advice would help Doh!!!!
Pc specs:-
Abit NF7s V2 running Mantaray XT D26 bios
XPM 2600
Shark case
Thermatake water cooling for cpu and gpu
1gb corsair llpt 3200 ram
9800pro AIW
39160 adaptec scsi card driving 15k 75gd segate drive + 36 gig drive
2 ata 100 drives
Audigy Sound card
Enermax 465w psu
Was running 12.5x200 stable
I see this old thread and think about back then.
I ordered myself an nf7-s again. With this bios off course...
Oh my bios link share won't work any more... (d10 bios)
The DFI ultra b was the board to have in my opinion. Better FSB overclocking. NEO made custom bios's for the DFI board but unsure if they are still hosted anywhere.
Tonight I can look around, my src code stuff is a mess, but maybe I can track down certain ver's I rar'ed or something.
This is what I think I have:
Collection of every bios except for mine..., that's how I did things...
/H/Downloads/MotherBoards/DFI/LANParty NFII Ultra B/BIOS/DFI_NFII-LPB_[BIOS-Set]/DFI_NFII-LPB_[BIOS-Set].rar
/H/E-Temp Backup/Code/ROM Build old/Dump/Suzuna.bin
/H/E-Temp Backup/Code/ROM Build old/Dump/New folder/Suzuna.bin
/H/E-Temp Backup/Code/ROM Build old/Dump/New folder/NEO-Suzuka_01-28-10.rar
/H/E-Temp Backup/Code/ROM Build old/Dump/New folder/Suzuka.bin
/H/E-Temp Backup/Code/ROM Build old/Dump/New folder/Release/Lilith [01-22-09].rar
/H/E-Temp Backup/Code/ROM Build old/Dump/New folder/Release/nf2 beta test.rar
/H/E-Temp Backup/Code/ROM Build old/Dump/New folder/Release/Release-old.rar
/H/E-Temp Backup/Code/ROM Build old/Dump/New folder/Release/Suzuna 10-21-09.rar
Some of them are probably nf3 bios'es or something though.
I need to goto windows to actually find out.
However dude was looking for a nf7-s bios..., can't really help with that.
It's possible to mod, just finding a copy is the hard part.
My setup is a complete mess though I don't expect to have to mod a bios.
But I could doit... if I really had to.
Not so sure that platform is worth much now though...