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haha, never knew that ! thought i had a dodgy speaker :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
Im still waiting for the magical bios that fixes everything...
still max multi 53x...............Quote:
Originally Posted by Balb0wa
cpu limited perhaps ?
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7584/32mb53gh.jpg
The F7 BIOS does not support PLL overvoltage, why would I want to use that? Whithout, my chip will only hit 4.7GHz :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Two-three post down Dino also post F8b.:rolleyes:
if i disconnect power cord from psu. windows giving bsod when load after first reconnect power
Hi Stasio !Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
I Updates to this New BIOS .
I have still Problem with oc if oc faild (to hard overclock) the Board somtimes goes into a Loop (on-off) also i have some Memory issue i have many diffrent memorys but with this BIOS Version its pretty hard to reach hi mem Blocks (sorry on the Asus no Problem See my WR Tread Maxxmem)
just trying to help miah what's with the attitude :rolleyes:hey mate, have you updated the backup bios as well to this newbios?Quote:
Originally Posted by splmann
Yes i Updated also the Second BIOS !Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
ok thanks
ive recently updated to the latest bios on UD7 and backup and no longer get funny OC fail. Bios guys are concentrating on improving it so i will let you know if i have some new updates in future
Thanks Dinos :)
Us UD5 owners need a new bios too with PLL and better LLC :( UD4 and 7 have gotten new betas but not UD5 yet :(
Hey I say, we all start using the UD3P like it used to be. That's my two cents though lol. I'm getting the only board I could find right now tomorrow for my new 2600k and new Corsair DDR3 2000MHz 2 x 4GB memory setup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
I'm super stoked!
If it isn't all that great at overclocking etc. the motherboard, Ill get a UD7 and sell this one.
I recently purchased the UD4 motherboard. I haven't mentioned any problems such us infinite reboots,vcore related problems etc. I was able to boot 54x with my 2500K.
But,
I can't put the controller in Raid or AHCI mode either. It stucks at the "logo bios sceen".I am using f7h Bios.
Have you guys experienced such a problem?
Problem solved..with f8b bios!!
Sarcasm Dinos...nothing personal ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
I do appreciate the help....that just wasn't what I was hoping for :p:
OMG so glad i found this thread, I've been having SOOOO many of the issues described throughout this entire post.!
2600k/UD4/ RipJX's 2133 c7
One thing i see miahallen mentioned is running the sticks on 2/4 instead of 1/3, i might give that a go..
But so far i cant even get it stable at stock with my ram at spec, only at 1600 C9 on ANYTHING clock wise will it be stable
But even at 4.5 i start running into errors after several hours on prime blend.. rounding errors.
Temps are about 75c MAX load which was using 1.356V core attempting 4.6Ghz using the Noctua NH-D14.
I am litteraly losing my mind with this thing, two days after i got it my mom passed away, and this was going to be one of my things to keep me busy.. and it sure has, but not to my delight. :mad:
Also, have went through bios of all sorts, trying all "recommending" things i've seen, only thing i got to run anything past 8hrs prime was 4.5 and that took 1.320 minv "with drop"
with the ram nerfed at 1800 9-9-9-28 1T @ 1.5vdimm
New F8B seems to be working well for me.. finally passed all other marks of time on blend with ram at spec , currently at 4hrs - 4 to go
edit: I also took the advice about running the sticks in slots 2/4 dont really know if it helped or just new bios.. but things are looking more my way :thup:
I love this motherboard guyz..:D
I am playing 4 days with my new toys..an i am very satisfied with Her OC behaviour.
http://www.outofspecs.gr/forum/attac...6&d=1298205398
:up:
Got one of these on thursday with a 2500k nice board so far no issues to report, currently running 4.7gig at 1.35 no issues what so ever :D GG Gigabyte
Hmm; I am not one of the lucky ones with this ud4:(
Stable in prime, occt, linx for hours. 4.8 1.39 stable temps 60 load. Great once i am in windows. 2600k ht off. Works like a charm in wondows, not lock-ups bsod etc.
Issue that has been there from the start; is cold boot issues. All bios from the 6's, 7b etc, to 8b, etc it is there. If I leave my pc for a day, turn it on it hangs on cold boot up and I have to open the case put the jumper on and clear cmos; re-load my profile and boot up and it is fine. It is an absolute pain in the a__!
I am only using intel sata 3.0 slots, memory is 1866 1.60v, cls 9 and passes memtest.
I have heard asus has had the issues, but fixed them; looks like others have had issues with six series gig boards too...looks like the dual bios is too sensitve?
This needs fixing...
Have you Updated the backup Bios to?
WOW...I put the UD4 back on the bench today....the new BIOS seems much better at recovering from a bad OC....or for accepting OC setting quicker :clap:
However, my max OC went from 5.2GHz to 4.7GHz :shakes:
@miahallen Make sure that you have PLL override enabled..
Tried it both ways :-/
Well, I just tried the P67A-UD4, and I have to say that, after having quite high expectations, I'm very disappointed in Gigabyte.
First of all, after installing all the drivers and utilities (ET6 and Intel Tuning Utility) I found that neither of the two function correctly (ET6 tunes the Multi down to non-turbo when started and then doesn't let me get it back up to 45 which it boots with) and Intel Tuning Utility shows an intermittent clock of 6.5GHz (rofl) and displays all the wrong voltages.
Second, I flashed F7 bios and there's no PLL overvoltage option. Logically speaking, when a beta version has something the official release should have it as well (unless otherwise specified). What's up with that???
As much as I liked Gigabyte from previous experiences, my current choice would be an Asus P8P67 board, since it's in-windows overclocking utility actually works and BIOS actually contains all the necessary functions to successfully overclock a good chip.
yes, they match, it was completly unworkable without matching bios'; cold boot issues plague these gig boards:(Quote:
Originally Posted by GeorgeVasil
That shouldn't be happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by miahallen
Did you clear the cmos after flashing?
Having PLL override enabled causes a MUCH bigger chance of a boot loop or a power down/power up after shutting down from windows, or changing a setting than having it disabled. It's also difficult to make an overclock setting "stick" with PLL override enabled, even at known stable settings, without getting a failed OC or one loop. This is probably why GB doesn't have it in their official bioses.Quote:
Originally Posted by jumper2high
In over 30 restarts, I haven't had a single boot loop after changing bios settings (though I think BCLK change causes a power off) or after a restart from windows, with PLL override disabled.
Could be - but, NOT having PLL Overvoltage guarantees the overclock won't go past 4.5GHz. I had it fully stable at 4.9GHz on an Asus board, then I took the GA board for a spin and had nothing but disappointment from that point on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
EDIT: Flashed F8b bios - after a few quite random restarts and powerdowns, finally able to boot into windows, I restarted and set 4.8GHz with a slightly higher voltage than on ASUS (was 1.33 on Asus, put 1.345 on GA) and it still kept coming up with an error after several minutes of prime95.
Sad to admit, but first chance I get, I'm putting back the Asus board in.
Good to hear....thanks for that...I will test with that off...and let you guys know. Cheers. I need to be a 4.7 to 4.8 though....I hope I can get there with pll offQuote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
Simon
Was F8b at 4.8 with pll off? Seems crazy they can't sort this basic bios stuff out. They need to loosen their criteria when they check for oc at boot; this is just plain ridiculus!Quote:
Originally Posted by jumper2high
I'm usually pretty meticulous about that sort of thing, but no...I don't think I did this time :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
I'll give it another shot in a few days (my Monday today).
Hi guys I come across this new GB P67A UD4 F8f Beta BIOS if anyone wants to give it a spin.
http://www.mediafire.com/?vk1bko5dl9e9ace
-fix "Vcore + DVID + cold start"
-fix Vdimm
Date: 18.02.2011
Don’t ask me no questions & I'll tell you no lies!!!
Thanks C-N i will give it a try..
I will repost back soon.
:up:
Thanks for the beta bios info. Will try that one this week; god I hope it fixes the cold boot issues.....Please lord!!
It seems to work nice with this Bios. No cold starts at all, no insane voltages.Quote:
Originally Posted by C-N
Voltage drops to 0,9-1v when Idle and goes up to 1.21-1.22v when Prime-ing (In my case I choose Normal/-0.100v for 44x100).
:up:
What the "fix Vdimm" stands for?
Is it possible to make 0.01v Vram Steps in future Bios?
"fix Vdimm":
Previous BIOS's optimized defaults=>Vdimm 1.5240V(CPU-Z or any soft)
F8f BIOS optimized defaults=>Vdimm 1.5000V
i am going to replace my ud4 with asus deluxe. thank you
+1, im going to try my luck with an Asus p67 as well. Did not like this board one bit. It has issues with my X-FI titanium HD as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by aytacaksel
if x-fi issue is crack sound, easly fixed by disabling Intel Virtualization Technology.
just i dont want 2x copper and black design and endless booting... i want extra 2x sata port, uefi bios, bluetooth, clr cmos power reset button on mb, front usb panel.
After some benches my UD4 needs disabled all the power saving options to be stable, because if there are enabled the mobo undervolts the cpu and I have BSOD
this is happens with all bios that I try.. :(
so the B3 boards are on gigabyte's site. doesn't look like anything changed. no extra SATA ports, clear cmos, post LED, LAN, or any other features. looks like I'll be going with an Asus P67 instead this time around. (if they let me get a refund still)
also... my system seems to be degrading. where it was stable before it's no longer. seems every week I have to drop it another 100mhz. 4.8, 4.7, 4.6, 4.5
you are wrong!Quote:
Originally Posted by LeetMiniWheat
GA-P67A-UD4 (rev. 1.0)
Realtek ALC892 codec
GA-P67A-UD4-B3 (rev. 1.1)
Realtek ALC889 codec
thats what i was waiting for
:rolleyes:
My expereince with this board has been utter crap has well.. think i'll be changing in that refund and going with asus or ASRock
yes bad experience; they NEED to fix cold boot starting issues....absolutely insane!
That sounds pretty bad...Quote:
Originally Posted by LeetMiniWheat
Flash Main and Backup BIOS with F8f or latest F8i BIOS.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by simon747
Are you sure f8f or f8i fix the cold boot issues; I have a windows stable system at 4.7 only and have cold boot issues on all beta bios???f or
Are f8f or f8i any better for the cold boot issues?
F8F is piece of crap. No boot for 4.8 Ghz or higher
Funny statement.:ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by RRunner
I can make my no boot with lower speed also.:rofl:
Edit:
Notice,that for mostly members with less then 50 posts,nothing it's good.
Without much of explanation and spec.,they came with very funny conclusions.
I have UD3P + 2500K
4.5 GHZ 1.30 vcore set in BIOS without toching other Volt stable for couple day then have restart loop symtom sometime.
4.6 GHZ 1.335 vcore no touch other volt stable for one day then have restart loop also.
4.7 G up .... have many issue with boot problem , annoying restart loop occur many time
I'm sure Cpu can go higher I ever boot at 5.0 GHZ but not stable at all.
4.8 GHZ is the best I can do stable with Prime95 1 Hr. but later It not stable. :(
I know they expect perfection from a platform so new with BIOS codes that are very new, that is why across all manufacturers and lines people are having problems. At least be happy with what you have b/c it doesn't get better. i don't own a UD7, but some of the stuff i hear is caused by crappy OC ability. UD7 owns as the highest P67 clock has been achieved.Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
few mhz shy of 6ghz http://hwbot.org/community/submissio...0k_5961.14_mhz
Typical notice again.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Skakruk
Your RAM type,voltage,CAS,....?
Is f8i better for cold boot issues? F8f was still problematic for me and I only need 4.7. Asus seems to have fixed their cold boot issues; gigabyte are falling behind...can somone lt me know what to do; any beta bios that enables pll overvoltage has cold boot issues...................................! I am only at 4.7 1.38 stable in prime, occt, memtest......
Help!
Right now I am forced to use 4.5 under bios 7 as that does not have the pll overirde....not at all what I was expcting from a expensive gigabyte board!
Great I am sure it does when it boots!!! Their bios have issues with stable overclocks............this needs work!!! The cold booting issues suck!Quote:
Originally Posted by sin0822
Stasio....Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
My x-fi cracking sound when virtualization is enabled...
Gigabyte know the problem?
same here. if you disable all works great.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrea deluxe
All=only virtualization?Quote:
Originally Posted by aytacaksel
or + other stuff?
i read from creative forum someone said virtualization + C1 stateQuote:
Originally Posted by Andrea deluxe
but tested all i can say only virtualization.
if you disable virtualization no cracking sound.
Χ-Fi Xtreme Μusic + VT + C1E Works great for me (with f8f bios).
maybe only x-fi pciexpress (titanium and fatal1ty)Quote:
Originally Posted by GeorgeVasil
i have fatal1tyQuote:
Originally Posted by Andrea deluxe
still fighting cold boots and crap with my 2600K even at 4.6 , anyone tried F8i yet? I'm currently on F8f atm, I had luck with 4.4 on F8b but even after a 14 hr prime test and couple of weeks of stablity an issue arose.
Anybody finding a better bios for cold booting problems on the p67a-ud4? My case and jumpers are getting tired of constantly being used....Quote:
Originally Posted by repilce
What I want to know is if the B3 boards resolve the cold booting (or shutdown+power on) problems or not. That will be very interesting to know....
Good question re b3 and cold booting? Not sure if those boards will have differnt bios's?
Last i checked this was the UD4 discussion thread?Quote:
Originally Posted by sin0822
Your UD7 does great? awesome.. I'm a prominent member of ANOTHER forum, regularly, as some others who have posted on this thread may be.
Could it be like me, they did not have a discussion thread on the matter at thier own home forum :shrug:
For any that might care, Flashed back to F3 from bios in this thread, mine shipped with F4. Stablest yet.. let me boot with all voltage on auto besides vcore = "normal" and D_VID = "normal" i was able to post with no reboot mood swings from 4.4 to 4.9 consecutively in 1x increments with no booting problems :D
Looks my chip walls at 4.6 so far though :( but hey.. cant complain about the performance for 24/7 :drool:
I posted my review on this board, let me know what you guys think.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=267846
Thanks!
I have an UD4 rev 1.0 with F3 BIOS but when I try to flash something newer like F7, it will say the file is invalid?? I am flashing from BIOS with F8 to go to EZFlash.
What's the problem? It's the correct BIOS :s
Edit: seems I need to flash in dos or windows so ezflash gets updated for newest bios. Will try tonight
You must use the latest FlashSPI via DOS, or @BIOS to update from the shipped BIOS.
So @bios to latest one or one in between?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap
Regards
You can flash to any BIOS you like, no order or midway flash is needed, but I do suggest using the latest final or latest beta.
holy...
next week i recieve an ud4-b3.... where is bios download for the b3????
LOL
weird does it not show up in the device manager as an unknown device?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap
got a refund for my UD4 yesterday at MC and bought a Asus Deluxe. I'm liking it much better. (although to be fair, the Pro should be compared to the UD4 but they didn't have it in stock) Bios has much more features. (like VRM frequencies, advanced phase controls) finer CPU voltage tuning too (the UD4 seemed to only make "large" jumps in Vcore and not fine tuned) and the POST LED is a no brainer, as well as Power/Reset buttons and CMOS reset button. not to mention intel LAN. oh, and the Asus software seems much more polished than gigabytes...
I think gigabyte really dropped the ball this time around :( it's a shame because I don't like Asus at all but I can't ignore a good product.
looking forward to seeing peoples results on the newer B3's though :up: good luck
Quote:
Originally Posted by l0ud_sil3nc3
Nope, all appears in order until you go to play with Easytune. Glad the guys @ GIGABYTE were able to figure it out quickly, I spent a several hours a day for 23 days trying different OS, updates, methods, ect and couldn't figure it out.
here ud4-B3, first bios F1
http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/8642/56508632.jpg
- no cold boot
- faster boot
F2 and F3b it's also out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaul
link plzzzzQuote:
Originally Posted by stasio
F2 you can dl from GB official site and link for F3b is in my sig.
my board is arriving....Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaul
other good news about b3?
not really... my 5660mhz chip can't run x56 on ud4 b3. The 5.66GHz result was on M4E but doesn't matter. Will test it more but the board is bad for now. I didn't have ud4 b2 so I can't compare those two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrea deluxe
you have 3 dimm on ud4?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bullet92
retry 56x with only 2 dimm slot 2 and 4
When overclocking, no of course. Will try it today again..
Which is your max frequency on UD4 B3 with the same chip which on M4E reached 5660?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bullet92
5550mhz for now.
So...
Maybe the conclusion that the max frequency depends of the cpu and not of the mobo is just a myth???
Just wonder...
It's not a myth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timoleros
You shouldn't see more than a 100 mhz difference between most of the higher end boards, and, of course, the BIOS matters too. The BIGGEST factor in how fast the cpu's will go is in the CPU itself.
The difference between boards is the VRM's, which handle power and loads to the cpu. One board may get you slightly lower voltages or slightly higher speeds than another, in that regard. For instance, one user was able to decrease voltage by 0.01v by switching from P8p deluxe to Maximus 4 extreme. That's a small but still noticable boost.
The chipset is still the same, so it's not like you're trying to compare a P45 vs an X48 or 780i. The IMC, which used to be the northbridge, was a critical factor in how far you could push the cpu's before the core i7, although some CPU's had weird FSB walls. With the IMC on the chip itself, the board is mainly responsible for handling the I/O and delivering stable voltages and amps, while the overclock potential mostly resides in the cpu itself.
BIOS can also play a part, although I have no idea how. I remember in a UD7 BIOS, one beta bios made people have to raise their voltages to get stability (same clocks weren't stable as on the previous bios), BUT they got higher 3dmark scores with the new bios. So what was going on there? Who knows...you literally would have to have a bios coder participating on this forum to know what is being changed, when something like that happens.
Now there IS a difference in using a $250 board and a $100 board (not even sure if you can buy a $100 board). The $100 board's VRM's are a lot cheaper, with far fewer phases, and thus the voltages will not be as strong/stable, and that can limit overclocking.
Don't want to say anything about that for now becuse i've to test it better. On M4E the 5660mhz was 20mins of job. Simple as that..
Maybe with new bios the things would change.
Very nice explanation!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
So the only reason that we haven't see more than a cpu reach x57 and more on UD4 is that noone else had try a good chip on this board.. right?
UD4-B3 - http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1718432
M4E - http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1695686
Same voltage (on gb after vdrop). But still, the board is heavy to work with. Once it boots, it works okay but you've to spent time and time to boot successful. I can do x56 on it too but can dream of doing 32M at 56xxMHz as I've done on M4E.
x56 - http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1718465
Very tricky and weird board after M4E.
You cann't compare UD4 and MIVE.Same as compare DDR3 1600 and DDR3 2133.
Okay that's for sure but even on this board, the cpu should run on 50mhz lower freq the same bench, right?
I know comparing M4E with UD4 is silly but with Sandy Bridge there are no big (200mhz+) differences between two (or more) boards and I'm not saying the board is heavy to work with because I can't reach the same freq as on M4E but the problems of getting it work on every freq above 5,5ghz.
just tryed F3B.....
one word: WOW
The game or impression? :D :p: j/kQuote:
Originally Posted by Andrea deluxe
More "words"? :)
Eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrea deluxe
How is F3B different from the original F1 or F2?
What did they change?
more spesific plzzzzzQuote:
Originally Posted by Andrea deluxe