So one month of the screw job
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Originally Posted by
m0n4g3
installed 10.9a's on my system a couple of nights ago. Fixed my mouse corruption in SC2, fixed the overscan issues i was having with 10.8, and haven't had a single issue with the install.
Using the normal method of add/remove programs, change ati catalyst install manager, remove all ati stuff, then restart and re-install latest drivers.
GG ATI finally getting somewhere! :)
Nice to know you only got screwed for one month.
Pardon me my friend showed me this link just saw post 101
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Originally Posted by
Ket
People, stop flaming and be constructive or I will ask a mod to lock this thread, its helping nobody.
If there is anyone who wants to CONSTRUCTIVLY criticise Catalyst drivers why don't you go and track down their latest tweet / blog / whatever and voice your concerns with the poor quality of software. If everybody does that AMD (yes I call ATI AMD when theres issues like this because ever since AMD bought ATI drivers HAVE taken a sharp downfall in quality) they will have to listen.
Well, I appreciate your second paragraph, and one would think it would be true but actually end users have already spammed amdati's report gui and I have personally seen AMD's top driver guy claim they were "not aware" of this or that problem - after the users pointed out their using the web report form, so it sounds correct what you say that they will "have to listen" but it seems to me the BEST that ever occurred was the recent Hardocp outing on crossfire drivers problems ( an ati friendly site ) - and then they DID take notice and their driver master Terry came in to hear issues and Kyle tried to coax people to be very specific - and indeed there may have been some improvement since the new Barts do much better - although that could be (or likely is) the slight die changes made for that.
Anyway.
I believe one of the problems is that I have witnessed at least a year of suppression concerning the ati driver issues whereby we are all told there "is no difference" between the two companies and that type of talk is ENFORCED to the nth degree everywhere I have ever been in forums on all the popular sites, and it is that very thing that lets ATI slide in my opinion. The very thing that let's them and their end user base claim so often "nothing is really wrong" and "nvidia has just as many problems" so basically "shut up". Their company people and driver teams and people in power may certainly LATCH ON to that stuff on the web - and therefore - their backsides are covered !
I have only recently seen a small change in that "pop culture" enforced directive all over the web - as I stated Kyle @ Hard finally got fed up for once and some pressure was brought to bear...
Since we all should know well enough that amdati doesn't have the money to pay for driver fixes and refinements like nvidia does, and certainly doesn't have any where near the equivalent of the TWIMTBP program, it may not be possible for "them to listen".
I frankly do not like the suppression of the truth, and although I believe I understand WHY it occurs as I said in my just prior post to this one, it still irks me that it seems every web forum has a bunch of people ready to scream troll and bring the hammer down on people when "they don't like what they hear" even when it is the un-candied up truth.
I don't know how anyone can "be productive" in this thread other than "helping fix" someone else's driver problems or agreeing with the thread title or posting their own issues ( sorry that's all "productive" if you ask me), but it is my opinion that people should be allowed to state their experiences and opinions and not constantly be afraid someone will scream they are spamming or trolling - just because it doesn't fit the "both companies are equal period" mold.
I do expect people that favor AMD/ATI to attack and scream scram and threaten and coerce and not really tell it the way it is ( that does not mean you , Ket, as obviously you are just policing a thread as usual as I see everywhere), since it is true that AMD/ATI has a serious financial problem that could cause a much bigger bankruptcy problem at any time and that would mean even less driver team $$$ for fixing ati card owners issues, so they are basically screaming and fighting for their "systems very life".
I believe that's why things get contentious because in all honesty it is a valid issue for ATI card purchasers - if bankruptcy hits the drivers might stagnate - we need only think of the recent BFG closing as an example where end users were sometimes or often "left high and dry".
So that's my constructive criticism, I think end users can look at that and think about it, and perhaps moderate themselves with that information processed.
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Maybe it will have an opposite effect and ATI card(amd) owners will really hammer it on since they realize "it might mean saving the company. LOL Just thought of that.:rofl:
I give up.
Good luck for all of us on the Cayman release hopefully 4d shaders are true and even though I have had my "problems" with the suppression and lack of frankness I cited above it would be really nice to see a different shader architecture emerge on ATI cards and actually have something NEW there - so this will be ( if the shaders are actually the new 4d) the first exciting ATI release for me since the HD2900.
That is absolutely correct
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Originally Posted by
Ket
You can always properly set your monitor up via your actual monitor settings, not driver panels. If you did, you can likely clear those issues right up by adjusting your monitors sharpness levels slightly. Since I done this on my monitor, text is actually slightly crisper than with my ATI card. Colour and gamma has never been a problem for me because I always properly adjust my monitor settings and don't use the crap presets.
Exactly correct and is exactly what I was explaining to my friend when I read the less than convincing "links" that were provided concerning the 2d comparison statements by the other commenter.
I would like to say this though: A long time ago, there was an ATI Mach 32 pci videocard with I believe 512 ram on it that had some absolutely BEAUTIFUL 2D rendering, and a business artist and friend of mine wound up with it and when we tried to replace it we wound up pulling the alternate card ( also an ATI ) and putting that wonderful mach32 back in.:up:
I also saw some impressive Matrox (pci) solutions, that nowadays are really too slow. Way back then I didn't see Nvidia(3dfx) cards that displayed in 2D as well.
Since the alternate ATI card was not up to snuff, I suppose there could be some sort of exceptions around still - not sure what those would be and manufacturing seems to be much more standardized, but I suppose it is possible.
Doesn't your sig show you are using MODIFIED drivers?
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Originally Posted by
Toysoldier
Why on earth are you behaving like this ???
He never said any of the things you think he said, he simply said he never had any problems and instantly you ramble on about all sorts of things.
What's wrong with not having any problems with an ATI's gfx card ?? is it against the law ?? does it offend you in some way ??
If that's the case then I would like to apologize for not having any problems with my ATI gfx card.
That's great. Good for you. So should we be letting users who should not get the wrong impression know your sig shows you use modified drivers ?
" XFX Radeon HD5870 XXX 900/1250 MHz - TwL v3.95 Drivers"
TwL v3.95 is not the default driver, the driver end users will wind up with, is it...
So NOW you have no problems, but if you didn't have problems before, why move to the TwL v3.95 driver ?
I see, another long whine and complaint.
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aztec
SNIP !
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If you aren't interested, you should not have posted a single thing to me at all.
Now, since you've harrassed me you're on ignore. Click!
