Cellshock stopped making ram over a year ago (or even longer, don't remember).
What makes you say AMD doesn't like high Vdimm? Never had problems with my crosshair III and 2.25V om my D9GTR's.
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Cellshock stopped making ram over a year ago (or even longer, don't remember).
What makes you say AMD doesn't like high Vdimm? Never had problems with my crosshair III and 2.25V om my D9GTR's.
Zeus small question would it be possible to drop to 200HT and 1600mhz rams with C6-6-6-18 and C7-7-7-24 plz and pm me a piccie of the Overdrive memory tab ? I've got some serious issues with my CSX sticks on both the MSI GD70 and UD5A Giga mobo... needing 2.2-2.3Vdimm at whatever timings I put in... some subsetting on the Asus makes it more compatible with the D9GTR's
Hey bro. Yes, setting 200ht and DDR1600 is possible (1:4 divider) but cas 6 requires a truckload of voltage on the Diablo's on AMD i found. You'd rather run 7-6-5 if your ram will run trp5, otherwise try 7-6-6.
I could make a screen of the memtab of overdrive but i'm not using the Diablo's atm, i'm using the Dominator GT's right now. Try Tfrc as loose as 120ns, that might be the one holding you back, 90ns might be too tight if that's what you're running.
I could run my Diablo's without problems with all subtimings at auto, apart from trfc, i ran trfc at 90ns, with primair timings at 7-6-5-18, Trc 24.
If you still want that screen lemme know mate. ;)
if possible give me the auto settings of the bios (just set C7-7-7-24 1T, rest AUTO...)
I've even been to 160 trfc to lower the volts, even tried increasing the strenghts. I need 2.25 for 1666Mhz C7 action to be sort of stable... 2.35 for C6 action at that speed... I've seen some maxxmem screenies and it seems the write score on the Asus is below the MSI and Giga mobo... just looking for something to report to both companies to enhance compatability with older ram... with a bit of sacrifice in speed...
Thx Neighbour :up:
If you can, adjust Dram ref voltages. +12,5mV can make quite a difference.
Here's the overdrive mem screen:
have they announced it officialy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
well at least since i've been playing with Crosshair III, i've tried 3 diferent
kits and either i am to dumb to make my chip's shine or my mobo just does
not like all 3 kits i've peaked up.
What do you think about this ram guys? It sound cool, I can get them almost half the price I paid for my Corsair 3x2GB i7 kit
RAM PC-16000, 4 GB, G.SKILL PI-Series F3-16000CL6D-4GBPIS, DDR3 2000MHz, kit 2x2GB + AIR FAN
Main Board intel
System Desktop
System Type DDR3
M/B Chipset Intel P55
CAS Latency 6-9-6-24-2N
Capacity 4GB (2GBx2)
Speed DDR3-2000 (PC3 16000)
Test Voltage 1.65 Volts
PCB
Registered/Unbuffered Unbuffered
Error Checking Non-ECC
Type 240-pin DIMM
http://www.gskill.com/images/images_products/PIS03.jpg
these don't work well with tight latencies so won't be good for amd i suppose
They must be the new Samsung chips. Don't work with tight latency? I see 6-9-6-24, that's not too slack other than trcd at 9 imho.
Thank you for your reply, what do you mean by they don't work well with tight latencies? 6-9-6-24 2000 is not tight enough or they don't work at declared latencies well? If they can run with AMD 1800 6-6-6-18 1T for 24/7 like Dominators GT I can sell Corsair memory and return some invested money in them because third module collects dust and G.Skill is really nice priced...Quote:
Originally Posted by proxis
Well, I have placed my order so I will find out in two days how they perform...
EDIT: Thanks Zeus, I was wondering what chips are under the hood :up:
performance with 6-9-6 is same if not worse than 8-8-8 , cas doesn't make much difference
proxis is right, tRCD is the crucial timing here and it's far more important than tCL. Performance wise it is a big no go, but it let's the memory scale nicely on Intel IMCs.
Cele303, I don't think those will outperform your Dominator GT, but anyway I'm looking forward to your results as I wanted to get myself a kit of these as well just to play with.
tRCD 9 is the stock timing, maybe with some increase in voltage it's possible to get it down to 7 or maybe even 6? Of course not at 2000 but maybe 6 or 7 is possible at ~1800? I would love to try a set. :)
Thank you guys for your replies, :up:
I will return my feedback when they arrive since you show some interest... My hopes are 1800 6-6-6-18-24 1T, with GT's I have them 1.70V stable for 24/7, so if they perform similar for less price, I'll be happy or if they suck I'll get rid of them :)
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/p...46v-GSkill.png
this G.skill sticks are low voltage but if you let it in default in Crosshair III
it uses very high vdim i've even seen 1,78v at 1600MHz 7-8-7-24 2T
default Rated.I would not recomend this sticks even tough ocing 790FX & Eco series, you can expect everything but do not expect greater frequencies
than 1800MHz and do not expect low voltages as they claim at least not
with AmdRD790 K10
Here they are, just arrived home, I will try them soon...
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/8992/dsc032199cr.jpg
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/9738/dsc032266cr.jpg
Looking forward to your testing cele303 :up:
heh.....first off way to much vdimm.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrHydes
second with less than 1.6v on 790 FX
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...kill%20ECO.JPG
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...kill%20ECO.JPG
Damn, first default boot and something is bothering me already :(
Check out xmp profile -> 6-10-6-25 1T :confused: I have one spare i5 and i7 to test them properly, is this false advertising (6-9-6-24 2T ) or what? :( Should I return them if they can't run advertised timings with Intel?
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9940/gskillspd.jpg
I say just lock it in and test however I would not expect miracles on AMD, if gskill thought they would do well on amd platform I'd likely have a set.
D9JNL@2.4v can do 940 cas 6 unstably 900 cas 6 is 1m stable but fails horribly at 32mQuote:
Originally Posted by ceemic
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...85&postcount=1
chew* has kinda helped me alot with ram so if he says no its a no
Looking forward to your results Eric but i seriously doubt these sticks can do what the Dominator GT's can. I hope you will prove me wrong mate. ;)
Thank you Eugene for your interest but I won't prove you're wrong hehe :)
I will get rid of them ASAP :D
After benching all night long with MSI I'm now at my work with my Giga and sticks are ultimate crap for AMD, I will give up on them, go home to sleep and switch to Intel after, now I hope sticks can't run advertised timings so I can return them with good excuse :) At least now I know why they are 40% cheaper than my Dominator's :)
I was thinking that tRCD will give me trouble but CL is killing me...
1333 -> cl7 1.65V, up to 1.90V nothing helps
1600 -> cl8 1.65V, up to 1.90V nothing helps
1666 -> final boot whatever timings, dividers and voltage used
So, this are tightest timings with 1.65V, up to 1.90V and different dividers nothing helps
http://i46.tinypic.com/21luzog.jpg
What did I tell you? :p:
Thanks for the test, interesting to see they're having problems with tCL instead of tRCD.
Is 1800 6-6-6 still possible with this kit or is corsair just binning those chips now and putting the 1800 6-6-6 capable ones in the $200 stick GTX2's or whatever?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145266
Ok so how about some ram that can do C7 that won't break my bank account in half?
Can anyone tell me if these are any good under Am3:
OCZ DDR3 PC3-12800 Gold Low Voltage Dual Channel 2x2GB cl8 (OCZ3G1600LV4GK)
Unfortunatly i havent been able to find any decent ram under 120€ available in portugal, only ripjaws or ocz gold.
(No amd black edition or gold amd edition available)
I've read in various threads that cl7 ripjaws cant go any lower than cl8, so im kinda leaning towards the ocz, the problem is i have no info whatsoever on these OCZ in am3.
I'd stay away from the OCZ. In the past 2 months I've tried out 4 pairs of ocz plats and 3 of the golds and its a crapshoot. Either they're not actually binning their sticks correctly or the person in charge of QC is negligent. Out of the 7 total sets I tested, only 2 sets ran without errors at the advertised timings and I had to mix and match sticks to make those two working sets. OCZ support is also going into the crapper. As a company they're starting to behave as they did back when they were still under the control of the original owners, which for anyone old enough to recall that episode, is a sign to take your money elsewhere because they're gonna leave ya wearing lipstick to put it nicely.
Thanks, guess im stuck with crap nº1 (ripjaws) or crap nº2 (ocz gold) its going to be a though choice :shakes:
hehe, :up: but you said you were interested in that memory also :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Don_Dan
I can't run away from bad CL :D It is following me :D
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/1150/memory32m.jpg
So quick 1M with my babies to maintain happiness :)
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/4106/1m944.jpg
Anyone had a crack at these apart from the obvious on hwbot ;)
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/174320 KHX2000C8D3T1K2/4GX
Got a choice between these and another set of dominator gt's as it stands.
True... -.- :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Cele303
Thanks for warning me before I spent money on them, I ordered some more Hyper instead. ;)
Has anyone tried this kit?
Mushkin BLACKLINE FROSTBYTE 996829
7-10-8-27@1.65V for $175.79
Judging by the high trcd value my guess is that these contain the new Samsung chips.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliverda
From what i've seen, these new samsung chips are awefull on AMD.
Would really appreciate some input on these :shrug: Ordering tomorrow. nvm just noticed no "ul" in the product code :( gt's it is then.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gappo
I bought these 2nd hand for my rig, £52.50 for 4x1 gig :) they seem ok
http://premium1.uploadit.org/bobbyboyuk//mem111.jpg
http://premium1.uploadit.org/bobbyboyuk//mem222.jpg
http://premium1.uploadit.org/bobbyboyuk//mem-bench.jpg http://premium1.uploadit.org/bobbybo...em-bench22.jpg
yeah would be interesting to see how those kingstons perform..Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gappo
This is not my screenshot, it is from local language forum member, Kingston HyperX T1 2x2GB 2133 8-8-8-24, they perform the same as Corsair Dominator GT 2000C8Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomasis
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/4981/spi1m.jpg
I checked prices. Kingston 2133 are quite expensive.. more than Corsair 1866 per gb. I think Kingston 2000 price is interesting (150€ för 4gb). The question is how worse it performs compared to 2133 one. I almost believe Kingston 2000 doesnt have Hyper chips when I look at the price.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cele303
I think that for my part I will set with G.Skill Eco for 24/7 and Kingston 1x2 Hyper chip modules for bench if Kingston 2000 4gb is not promising. I cannt wait beat D9jnl with v2,35 for 32m superpi :p:
I have thought buy Corsair 1866 then sell one module. But Im too lazy :D
[QUOTE=Cele303;4251508]This is not my screenshot, it is from local language forum member, Kingston HyperX T1 2x2GB 2133 8-8-8-24, they perform the same as Corsair Dominator GT 2000C8
[IMG]http
Ask him for 32M with trcd at 6 and ask for a voltage shot at normal ambient temps.......I'm willing to bet voltage is excessive and that was done on asus and trcd 6 is a no go..
I have a few set of kingstons, not same league imho.
I hate to sound like a broken record but 1m is freaking useless for any sign of stability.
you really want to nail my sorry a s s to the wall don't you ::pQuote:
Originally Posted by El Gappo
If these are the same we used at the P55 event, they will do pretty good. We reached 2200 c7-9-7-24 on P55 at 1.85 Vdimm. But if they do C6 at eg 1700ish speeds no idea
tighten them timings mate to at least C8-8-8-24 1T maybe they will do c7-7-7-24 toooQuote:
Originally Posted by Balb0wa
Gigabyte 790FXT-UD5P, 1.75V, CM Hyper 6 cooler, normal room ambient, 1M was showing PP between few of us, but 900 6-6-5-18-24 is familiar, Zeus always use that timings with 2000C8, I think that 32M with that Kingstons is possible if tRC 24Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
*CMG4GX3M2A2000C8 ordered for tomorrow morning* Sorry :shocked:Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Couldn't find the 2133 t1 kit in the uk and I didn't fancy the 1gb single sided old elpidas so I just went with the doms. Just praying that the i5 kit is made of the same stuff the i7 kit is. Last 4gb gt kit I bought was a joke :(
Will post some ss's from the LCC since it going to be purely about the ram now. Will hopefully get a good few hours in :up: Ive always been able to push my D9 ram harder on my sempron 140 so I might stick that in :ROTF:
Dominator GT 2000C8 is good stuff. :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cele303
oh you mean like this chew* my old est of D9JNM can do 1m cas6 900 as well but its not stable at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
http://img.techpowerup.org/090525/Capture018.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/090525/Capture015.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/090525/Capture016.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/090530/0525091546.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/090530/0526091620.jpg
thats an RB-C2 chip also
http://i46.tinypic.com/33vyafb.png
I was lucky because it was $209.99 few weeks ago at the Microcenter. Now it is $249.99.:shocked:
Got some benchmarks here from a 4ghz cap lcc ;)
These are dominator gt's c8 2000, the i5 kit. I know you hate 1m chew* but I'm just showing the best from each ram kit.
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/4350/1639ocnlcc.jpg
Either my board is severly capped ath 904mhz or the imc straight up suck, got a few more chips here, one with a prooven imc so Ill have another crack.
These are dominator gt's 1600 c7 bemp edition. Terrible sticks, took 2.2v for This run, but at least they got there I suppose.
[http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/320/maxmembackup.png
These are some EOL ocz titaniums, if you can find them I recommend getting them because they are awesome for low frequency work, D9gtrs I presume.
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/7...astbackup2.png
Those are c7 1333 dimms.
I can see it. :) Looks like that it's a 8GB Dominator AMD kit.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
So how do you guys feel about the OCZ Flex EX C8 2000mhz 4Gb kit? Stock Votage is 2.0-2.05v I have had them as high as 2.4v. Still have them and they're running strong right now @ 1704Mhz C6.... With a 2982CPU-NB and 4.048ghz CPU.... Any thoughts?
EDIT: Yes, prime95 Blend stable. 6+ hours... So far
http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/8039/mystuff003.jpg
We do 1760+ 6-6-6 with 2x2g at 1.65v 24/7 prime stable. D9 great for benching but this stuff is far more versatile. D9 is also pulling no stability above 1800 with c6 while this stuff is breaking 1900 32m stable @ cas 6.
Thanks CHEW!Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
So this stuff is Not D9? It IS "This Stuff" which is "more versatile"? Or it IS "D9"? Sorry for the misunderstanding.... :rolleyes:
EDIT: So what do you think is holding me back my IMC. Need to lower the Freq a bit and could possibly push the ram a bit further?
This stuff posted in this thread is elpida hyper, a little reading on preety much any page will tell you that ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mastiffman
Read that, so the picture that I posted is of Micron D9GTR, right? Gotcha....Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Mind if ask a bit about Drive strengths? If I'm not technically OCing my Ram (2000 Rated) then Drive strengths can be raised? If the forementioned is correct, if I were trying to run a 1600 kit @ 1700 then I would lossen the Drive strengths. Is all of this accurate?
If so, then what are the most focused on Drive strengths? I've heard Data, Clk and DQS... What about ODT ohms adjustments?
Drives are dimm specific, not speed specific....memtest is your friend with all memory settings and options.......
Drives are not needed for 24/7 use.
So I should just leave those alone then...Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Just for clairification (And thank you for being patient with me on this!), If I'm using the Dimm Slots furthest from the CPU socket on my MSI GD70 I may need to increase the drive strengthe for that Channel? Do the DRam ODT termination values play any part in stability?
So basically it just comes down to Memory IC and IMC Quality paired with Voltage and timings? IForgive me but I'm still on the newer side of this venture and just trying to understand as much as possible...
For 24/7 honestly the best approach is the KISS method keep it simple stupid and for 24/7 use you don't need uber timings.
Set the primaries and voltage and leave the rest alone. Whats holding back your IMC is your timings, most d9 with any shread of stability save 1m top out around 1720 with C6, need to drop to c7 for higher.
This thread is about the best ram is preety much that, not necessarily the most budget minded and in real world will net small gains but it is the best.
LOL- Regardless, I want URBER TIMINGS! Just like you! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by chew*
What's wrong with that. I'm not going to go out there and try break some world record. I just want to KNOW for sure what settings are required for high speed low timings Ram clocking and what the settings do? I'm not affraid to Spend the money on Ram. I have this kit and I'm wnting to max it out. If I have to end purchasing Some Cosair DomGTX's then I will! :D
But for now I wanted to try and "Pick Your Brain" a tad and Continue to make things "Difficult" (I Don't like simple. It's no fun!) in my OC adventure...
Fair enough? :D
Problem is most people want to screw with stuff that they don't fully understand. You want to play with drives, thats fine but they are useless until the cpu see drastic changes, like -180 temps drastic and even then only worth gaining a couple mhz ;).Quote:
Originally Posted by Mastiffman
Anyways I'm more than happy to help on the 24/7 stable stuff. Run the corsairs at 1.68-1.70 volts with 6-6-6-18-24 and you will be happy.
Run your d9's at 7-7-7-15-11 and they will go alot further.
Benching is a competitive sport however and everyone has to drive there own rig.
Gotcha! Thanks brother! Good advice too!Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Question. Does a higher Ht ref Clk play a factor in how well the system can handle Higher Ram freq's? Some, have implied this in other threads... And will one ram Strap/ Divider possibly work better with the Ram than another. Just trying to figure out if I should really be using the 1:4 Strap or trying the others out with higher HTRClk Freq's....
Why are they useless without LN2 or LHe? Just because things (the rest of the systems freq's) advance further therefore they become a factor?
If you freeze anything with "copper" distances change as the metal shrinks when cold, you need to compensate for these changes, even a resistors value can change at -180.
To give you an idea back in the 939 days drives played a role in getting around cold bugs or at least allowing to run a little colder.
IIRC GD70 works well with 1333 divider, however it's usually board/bios dependant.
It's funny you should happen to mention this... All BIOS (even beta) released for this board only allowed upto about 1680 -1697Mhz, no matter the settings. And it seems that ALL of the Officially realeased BIOS "Hoover it up!" if you catch my drift. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
The Latest Beta BIOS, which has been out for a few weeks IIRC, has enabled me to boot (not just post) into OS at 1800Mhz+! Before I would ahve had to use the "Multistep OC Booster" option in windows. Which has 3 modes:
1.) Disabled
2.) Mode 1 which downclocks the HTRClk by 20Mhz or to 200 if 19 or < above the HTRefClk.
3.) Downclocks the HTRClk by 40Mhz or back to 200 if less than 40mhz above 200.
I would use mode 1 and it would enable me to have my Clocks back up 20mhz (HTRClk) after abuot 45 seconds of idling in the OS.
No need for that now. Another thing that I, among others, noticed with diff ver. of BIOS is that most users of the GD70 with BE processors installed Can't Cold Boot (Shut PC competely down and then pwoer up from the off state) with the CPU-NB multi set to x14 or more... BUT one version of the BIOS allows this (but only upto the x14 multi fro the CPU-NB) BIOS 1.51b. So that told me that it was a BIOS issue. Maybe with Coding...?
Anyway, Thanks for the tips thus far. Do you use the Dram Ref Voltage at all? I've noticed that it will allow lower Dram Voltage Operation... but I haven't really seen a patern with it yet. I'm mostly tuned and tested with it to get results.
My 2x2Gb OCZ 1800MHz kit (OCZ3P16004GK) seems to be doing ok with AMD. Was previously using it with my p45 setup.
Voltage is 1.94V
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/4446/cachemem.png
Unable to get my D9KPT to do 1600 at even as high as 1.7v, with severely high timings, I swapped out for this G.Skill ECO 1600 CL7 stuff. Works beautifully at 1600 7-8-7-24 @ 1.5v...haven't pushed it because I hate this GD70. Running the latest official BIOS, and just stick with raising/lowering multi's because this thing refuses to POST if i change anything else.
can somebody give me a hand at taming this POS board? ...or should i say beast? Not understanding this whole DDR3 subtiming thing only lets me read the SPD and make assumptions based around that, 1 timing at a time. It kind of works, but I know I could squeeze more out of this RAM (2000 CL7 on 1156 i7 at 1.6v), just now knowing what i'm doing in BIOS with it. I had to take a picture of the "XMP" section in BIOS and set timings manually. Auto = no post at 1600 even with 1.5v+
So are you guys thinking this is good ram albeit expensive worth the money CMG4GX3M2A1600C6?
If you are pushing an 965BE to 3.8 and above. Is this a good pairing?
Hey Chew, were you able to get a decent Clock on the NB with the Ram that high at all?
Define good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mastiffman
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=174
Like Decent....Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Like Some of Mine!
http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/6...03000nbcl6.png
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/3...02925nbcl6.png
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/292...hzcl62982c.png
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/5...ssrun4g.th.jpg
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/1...htl24hr.th.jpg
Well not hard to hit 2900-3000 NB at 32C load temps when cold. ;)
Mine was done on basic water, if 970 32m stable cas 6 ( as everest stability is useless) with 2900 NB is good at 50C then yes.
just below the temps it shows cpu utilization 0%, 32c seems pretty standard for idle temps
Guess I didn't see that.Quote:
Originally Posted by crazydiamond
This beta bios for MSI is awesome... I'm playing with memory and old big typhoon cooler, maybe I can break 1900 with motherboard outside computer case and some aggressive fans?
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9435/mema32mmsi.jpg
Might need water for a little more control.
The imc gets funky with varying temps which is why I didn't use phase.
I'd be curious to see how the PP is compared to ch III or m4a79, usually msi has been just "backing" off on performance to get higher clocks.
Thanks for the tip :up:
I've noticed that PP is not good, I think that final PP will be worse than my Giga and much worse than your Asus mobo's
Good to know maybe they can get the new boards to have better PP, one can always hope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cele303
lol-- Yeah it's on water.... BUT with a crappy 105g/hr Pump... Upgrading soon. But I think that I hit about 45-46*C full load with that OC. Lower at night... (TS set to 64*C on the furnice! ;))Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Pardon the rookie question but what's PP?Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Performance product or performance per clock. Basically you take all boards at identically pushed speeds and compare. MSI is rather slow.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBlueChanell
So is this all of the MSI Boards or just GD70? And is this speaking only of CPU Clock Cycles? or the Entire system comlpetely?Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
I can only state things based on what I have used, so I know this to be true with gd70. This is overall performance but mostly cpu/memory side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mastiffman
Put simply an 1800 ram clock is not really an 1800 ram clock, its equal to about 1760 on GIGA/ASUS.
Did some super pi for Pi day :) C8 2000 dominator gt's on the gigabyte 790xt ud4p, wasn't so easy getting it this fast. A lot of this rubbish :(
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/9127/notfairq.jpg
Got it sorted tho.
http://hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=3...se&iehack=.jpg
Some 1m.
http://hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=3...se&iehack=.jpg
Borked my xp install for the 5th time this month :shakes: So with a proper os I think I can get under 13 second 1m hopefully :shocked:
Plenty of headroom with northbridge and tweaks etc but I just want to crack 900mhz 32m stable on this board with these timmings!
Has anyone tried Team Xtreem DDR2000 2x2GB at 6-6-6-18? Preferably on an MSI 790FX-GD70?
Thanks Chew! Got it. So what's reasoning here with the GIGA/ ASUS Boards Compared to the MSI? I know that your speaking of PP. but what is the main reason? Poor Trace Routing?Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
could be board design, could be way it interfaces cpu, could be the power delivery or how clean power is to ram causing poor clocks and them compensating by running slack to match competitors.
Nice to see your memory in action El Gappo :up: I think I've seen 924mhz with your timings for 1M with 2000C8, and good luck with 32M :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gappo
Few months back I did my best air 32M with Gigabyte with open window when was cold outside
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/584/superpi32mcr.jpg
Talking about PP, this is Gigabyte with optimized XP
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/3464/perfnumber1cr.jpg
This XP install survived almost 6 months and many chips, too bad I didn't see number of BSOD and restart times in Everest :D
I must do again the same OS optimization and compare MSI with Gigabyte with the same chip, memory and bios setup
Very nice :clap: how much voltage are you feeding them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cele303
I will have to move down a divider to get any more frequency on that 1m I think, doesn't seem to be half as strong tho. Will have a play about with it once I have my install back up and maybe some dice :)
1.70V around 1800 and 1.75V 1800+ (up to 1872)Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gappo
Too bad there is no fine adjustment with my Giga, next step 1.80V is little to high for me, it would hurt my heart if something happen to memory, I use it for 1M only if tRC 11 (1888 6-6-6-18-11 1.80V), MSI bios is better with adjustments, I'll see the difference with 0.01V step between 1.70 -> 1.80V
Enjoy yourself :) You have plenty of cooling choices, I wish we are neighbors, I would join you surely :)
*chew, you said earlier in this thread that u've tested some kingston kits, and they are not in the same league with the 2000 C8 Dominators or something like that.. Are they that bad? Cause the hyperx 2133 c8 2x2gb kit (KHX2133C8D3T1K2/4GX) is, sadly, about the only kit with elpida hypers available on the market around here :(
They can't run tight TRCD, TRCD is alot more important on AMD than TRP, in fact TRp at 5 is for show preety much and nothing more.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinook
I'm willing to spend money on 2 of those corsair sticks that go for 200$ on their site. But i'm not willing to add a lot of weight to the custom's wallets :(.. i hate this bloody country and its stupid regulations.. sorry for the offtopic remarks. Thanks a lot for the advice man, you've been giving a lot to many of us.
Has anyone tried this Kit on AMD?
Mushkin Ridgeback. 1600 6-8-6-24 @ 1.65v
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820226123
My cheapo Crucial has served me quite well but I need a spare kit so I thought I'd try to buy something decent.
It's fairly new and I'm no RAM expert, but it looks pretty good to me... ;)
EDIT: One last question... :)
Does anyone think this kit may have the same IC's just with lower voltages and looser timings?
It's $30 cheaper.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820226122
Does anybody know where I can find some OCZ (ANIMAL) memory? They run real good on my rig nice and stable with tight timing. I am with you Davebert has anybody tried those Mushkins??
Interesting except now you're making me sad. haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Well they are good in 3d as they tend to clock higher and have good throughput, in the end it takes higher clocks to beat a result so effeciency isn't there but it does beat a result.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBlueChanell
Everything else appears sub par however, high clocks can't save it in anything 2d related.
They're ugly but I wonder how these sticks would do. 2200 CAS8 should be comparable to the $200 stick Corsair GTX yeah?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-411-_-Product
These are interesting as well. 2200mhz CAS7.
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/3...ageviewphp.jpg
Guess it really depends on IC's.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBlueChanell
Adatas would match that MSI of yours blue :)
Pretty sure they are bbse which aren't to bad. For an every day pc they are perfect just not so much for benching. May take a tad more voltage to run at those setting tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daveburt714
PVV34G2000LLKB Cas8 2 x2Gb 1.65v
Paid $200usd at Newegg
1st try:
1800 8-8-8-24-32 1T 1.65v
1600 6-6-6-18-24 1T 1.65v
1333 5-5-5-15-20 1T 1.65v Passed OCCT 1hr @ stock cpu clocks, 1st test so far.
Asus M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 955C3 W7-64
3.6/2.6 stock volts although had to set mem volts for 1333/5-5-5.
Have not torture tested yet though, just running typical apps, virus scan and installing programs for new install. Will edit this post if it fails OCCT.
Edit: Can't run it too hard yet with stock cpu cooler.
2x2GB 2000MHz CAS8 Kingston HyperX
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http://www.edgeofstability.com/image...00_6_mem_s.jpg