For the record, the drives are no longer listed a Newegg.
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For the record, the drives are no longer listed a Newegg.
I'm not sure why so many are shocked at what NewEgg is doing . Admittedly, it has never been done so blatantly but this has been standard operating policy for them for a long time.
The G2 are gone I wonder if Intel got pissed at them ???
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...namitedata.com
deactived item OOOPS
I had a look and they use the Indilinx Barefoot controller and Samsung MLC. I read a few reviews, and although the Intel is indeed faster, it isn't by a huge margin. The Xtreme Corsair are basically right on par with a Vertex Turbo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Armitage
They are out of stock at NewEgg, but for $179 on a 64gig I clicked "Auto Notify" :D
I would rather have the Intel for $220 though. :(
Well when I mentioned their performance. It was in comparison to most other popular drives out there. Not that it's a terrible drive. Sorry for the confusionQuote:
Originally Posted by XKaan
No worries mate, I knew what you meant! I just wanted to post my findings in case anyone else was curious. :cool:
Sorry for the double post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oberon
Anyways - The old G1 is now 360$ also. Wonder whats going on.
Buyed today 3 hd's on uk for 175 pounds, the shop have around 40 items in stock
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820167016
It's back. 350$....
I hate the egg when they do this. :shakes: That's why I try to buy from somewhere else whenever possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Armitage
MSRP stands for suggested RETAIL price, wtf is with anything over 250$ when reviewers compare it as if it costs 225$
Got myself the 160GB G2, besides things loading a bit faster, not that impressed coming from 2 velociraptors in raid 0.
after reading some real world results not just HD tach benches the RAID O velociraptors are going to keep my home rig going for atleast another year or two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sh1tyMcGee
But if the price comes back down to 220-230.00 I will be getting a G2 for my notebook computer.
http://pcper.com/images/reviews/661/pcperfc-create.jpg
http://pcper.com/images/reviews/661/pcperfc-copy.jpg
SSD is not about max sequential single threaded performance alone;
SSD come into their own when you start throwing multiple things at it at the same time;
encode a movie, run a virusscan, copy data, and then load up a game/app. a RAID 0 HDD config will never decrease in access times, and that's where SSD come into their own; your system with the Intel SSD will remain responsive, while that Raptor 8xRAID0 setup will noticeably become sluggish:)
Got one of these 80gb intel SSD's
I must say it is 100x better than my 2x Samsung SSD's i had in raid 0. They would pause now and then and just p*** me off, this intel drive is much better and is how my Samsung should
have performed.
seems the two things I will be waiting on to upgrade my home setup is
1. prices to stablize since replacing my two paid for velociraptors 600GB using the intel setup would cost nearly $2,000 for 4 160g units
2. in Raid TRIM is not at this time supported thus could lead to slower response when the units are "used" alot.
maybe at the rate prices are dropping Intel will have a 320g unit under 400.00 by next summer & have TRIM support for RaID by then.
I just didn't realize how fast the raptors were in RAID until I saw the charts I posted. Access times are important but I as a user, seldom multi task too many things at the same time but your point is well taken.
I will be upgrading my notebook at work since the SSD makes more since compared to my slower internal drive thats not in RAID.
you missed out that the file transfew stuff is jsut sequential and its all the random small bits of data which is actually SO slow on mechanical HD's that Flies in comparison on an ssd (and thats where you actually notice the diff also) just general stuff will seem a lot fasterQuote:
Originally Posted by iboomalot
You are missing the point of SSD's. You can look at benchmarks all day long, what it comes down to is how much you notice it when using a computer. Things like program start time, or the time it takes to boot windows. Or even daily tasks, an SSD will obliterate the raptors. Windows mainly writes (randomly, you don't even notice it) in 4-64kb sizes. Which in tests are considered random writes/reads. Which is another reason an SSD is much smoother in the use of an OS.Quote:
Originally Posted by iboomalot
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/t...3318/19853.png
That picture alone is my deciding factor of purchasing an SSD.
File creation and copy speeds are oblivious to start time and game speed. I'll have all my data and large files on a nice 1tb platter of discs.
Anyone who says that any part of a conventional hdd is as fast or faster than an SSD quite simply has never used much less owned an SSD. The load time for Windows alone with a conventional drive is enough to drive me around the bend now. I doubt that I will ever use a rotational drive for other than external backup.
No one said SSD is slower, A 10K Velociraptor in Raid 0 is very close to a SSD, maybe not in terms of loading, but everything else is close if not better.Quote:
Originally Posted by genec57
http://www.platinummicro.com/
In stock here, at good prices, respectable reseller, i can vouch for them.
No, it's not even close.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sh1tyMcGee
Perhaps you failed to see the image from Anandtech's SSD article 2 posts above yours?
300$ and 580$? Not even. I'll wait.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sh1tyMcGee
Why would i care about an article a website posted when i have both setups and compared myself. Perhaps you failed to read where i wrote i had both setups. Perhaps you failed to read where i stated that SSD loads faster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Telperion
Iam comparing 600 gigs of RAID 0 not just a single drive and shown in my screen shot that cuts time down alot.
Many cases SSD is faster but is loading a few extra seconds faster worth the cost at this time not IMO.
I was thinking of dumping my raptors for a 160g G2 but not sure at this point thus Iam holding off.
Kinda funny everytime I reload a map on Crysis Iam the first in the room and only takes about 2 secs :D I play under Crush-Libs if anyone wants to say hi
Quote:
Originally Posted by PrometheusCon
Dude, they aren't doing anything...!
Ever hear of Supply & Demand...? NewEgg usually gets hundreds or thousands of drives, they are getting them 25, 50 at-a-time and SELLING THEM OUT at whatever price they throw up...
If you want a X25-M at a lower cost, just wait till they are available in large quantities. Which should be in a few weeks.
Yes I've heard of supply and demand. But I demand they supply me a drive at a reasonable cost. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Xoulz
Supply and demand allows them to do that, but it's still quite a yank considering they had them in and were selling them at $230, $440 just a few weeks ago. I got a 160gb G2 model last week from them for $440 because they got a few in and I was notified. I'm typing on that system right now hehe. Just wait it out a bit and they will come back down.
Just got mine for 260$ at buy.com.
Woohoo.
Yes is it, consider when one program is writing to the hd and you try to load another program... the hd basically says "FU, one at a time". This annoys me like no other, the whole computer basically stalls.Quote:
Originally Posted by iboomalot
Thats why im looking forward to 2 of these. Doing it for the space, but as well the nice read speeds will always be nice bonus.Quote:
Originally Posted by shabby
I got a fast PC, and the only thing slowing really slowing it down... the harddrives.
just bought an OCZ agility, when comparing price to benefit ratio, 150$ after rebate for 60GB sounds better than this for 300$ and 80GB
I got one myself too, the 120GB one and very happy with it. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
http://www.macmall.com/ttsvr/p/Intel...07~pdp.fhdjfgg
http://www.ecost.com/Detail/Internal...avid=155442295
Macmall and ecost are now in stock. Finally we don't have to deal with neweggs ridiculous price.
Excellent find. Waiting on the Sata 3.0 models however.Quote:
Originally Posted by posershadow
Is there Any indication of a SATA 3 model or are you just ... hanging on...?Quote:
Originally Posted by Peakr
N/e ways, I ordered 1 from Ecost. $272 total. Don't know much about ecost lol, are they gonna steal my money?
I don't think they make a SATAI model.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peakr
"Notify Me" :D
Damn...
Already gone from eCOST and MacMall just says "Generally in stock", yeah right...Quote:
Originally Posted by posershadow
I need to check the forums more often! :)
I don't know if they are going to steal your money, but things don't look good over a resellerratings. http://www.resellerratings.com/store/eCostQuote:
Originally Posted by RagzaroK
The third SATA generation standard is called "SATA Revision 3.0" or SATA 3.0 for short and uses the product name "SATA 6 Gbit/s" to avoid any customer confusion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Armitage
Try for yourself ;) I don't want to use a HDD ever again (except for stoarge). Although for PCs, the benefit is not nearly as big as for notebooks. The 2,5 inch HDDs are very slow generally speaking (especially when you use a 5400 rpm-drive for energy- and loudness-reasons).Quote:
Originally Posted by iboomalot
Best thing is: you don't have to need a RAID-0-array anymore.
Buy.com still shows them in stock and I just purchased a 80GB version for $228.00 with FREE SHIPPING. If you go the buy.com site you must put this in search to find it "SSDSA2MH080G2C1" If you try just Intel SSD you get the first gen version. It says still in stock with "Very few left In Stock! Order soon -- product may sell out"
Just got my order in, thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lu(ky
I'll update everyone later if I get a shipping confirmation.
:down:Quote:
Originally Posted by krille
Important: Do not use the incorrect terms 'SATA II' or 'SATA III'
The references embedded within the SATA specifications to 'Gen 3', 'Gen 2', or 'Gen 1' are technical spec naming conventions only and should not be used for marketing and product naming purposes.
Terms to Avoid
SATA III
SATA 3.0
http://www.serialata.org/developers/...guidelines.asp
CORRECT AND ONLY NAME: SATA 6Gb/s
Well alas, I simply meant I don't think there is a 1.5Gb/s version specifically.
So is this drive going to support TRIM in the future, or does it not NEED support? Cause that agility series almost looks better then this .... overall
OCZ seemed to adj there prices better, but this review on all SSD seems good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bojamijams
AnandTech ----> The SSD Relapse: Understanding and Choosing the Best SSD
Yeah I read that but it still left me confused.. it seems to indicate that intel based controllers do not need TRIM .. or that TRIM cannot save them.. or something else which I'm misunderstanding
Performance degradation on Indilix Barefoot controllers usually is heavy than Intel's or Samsung's (without using auto garbage collection on the beta FW of course), wathever, intel claims TIRM support for Postville SSDs...
So the G2 are the postville SSDs then?
TRIM is not built in to any OS except Windows 7. When 7 is released, Intel will issue firmware update to these G2 drives so they can start using TRIM in Win7.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bojamijams
Yep, G2 = Postville. Unfortunately no support annunced for G1 SSDs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bojamijams
hi, just a question... I installed win 7 RTM x64 and if I buy the G2 drive, It will work better than on win xp ? what do you think about G2 or first model anyway? one seller on ebay told me that his driver (not G2!) with new firmware works better than G2 .. how is possible?! :shrug::confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by RagzaroK
thanks.
hello :) .... do you know if this shop sell and ship to Europe (Italy) ? here we have very foxy sellers... the change dollar/euro here is very funny :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Armitage
if the official price in dollar is $ 299 , in euro our sellers, especially in Italy, they make pay € 299 :shakes:
so, I think that when is possible, is better to buy directly from USA... but not always is easy to find where...
if you have some advices, I will be glad :)
PCWorld.fr speaks about a mysterious X25-V in the end of the year from an Intel Slide Roadmap.
Somebody has newz concerning this SSD ?
I just ordered mine and have only used Vertex before. Can not say G2 is better than G1, but all the benchmark and articles out there say that G2 is slightly faster. If you install on Vista or Win 7, the disk should be alligned automatically. If installed on XP, you need to allign the drive first. After that, usage will probably show about the same, although some threads in this forum say Win 7 especially loves SSD's. I know for sure that for best results, I will flash the firmware from Intel that supports TRIM, then install 7 on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by [ITA]SEREUPIN80
Don't know about that ebay guy, sounds like he's lying to me.
I would assume the V stands for value since we already have the M = mainstream and E = extreme.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olivon
When the 34nm drive came out intel has slide that showed in q2 2010 the x25 will get a speed bump.
Btw here's my new 160gig g2, is that 90mb/sec i see in write speeds? :)
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/373/ssdv.jpg
thanks for your help :)Quote:
Originally Posted by RagzaroK
Hey Bud, sorry for the late reply. I'm not sure. I bought it through buy.com - It's a major site like amazon. But the seller they went through is beachaudio.Quote:
Originally Posted by [ITA]SEREUPIN80
Heads up - Mine shipped yesterday. Getting here tomorrow ;)
Thank YOU So Much!!!!!!!!:toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lu(ky
I got two of them for $228 ea. with Free shipping. When I checked an hour later, they had already raised the price. :D
Still better than Newegg though. :mad: Very bad Newegg!!
No, the blue part is incorrect. I'm not sure what you're trying to pull here, but you are wrong. The specification is called "SATA Revision 3.0". This is a hardware enthusiasts forum. It's use is perfectly correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmke
See for yourself: http://www.serialata.org/technology/6Gbdetails.asp
Once again, "SATA 6 Gbit/s" is only the product name, not the name of the actual specification/standard. It even says so in your quote. So, don't give me that thumbs down bs.Quote:
SATA Revision 3.0
"The new SATA Revision 3.0 Specification builds upon the current market success of SATA, and will help solidify SATA as the predominant storage device interface technology for the foreseeable future."
- John Rydning, IDC
On May 27, 2009 Serial ATA International Organization released the Serial ATA Revision 3.0 Specification.
Any chance that roadmap names a X25-E G2 part with possible dates?Quote:
Originally Posted by Olivon
Sweet just in time I went back to the site and now OUT OF STOCK.. I ordered stuff threw BUY.com before and I guess it is coming from BEACHAUDIO which also ordered threw as well with no problems. It says I should receive the drive today. :shocked: wow I doubt it came from NY that fast, probably from a CA warehouse.. Looking forward to try this out on my ASUS RAMPAGE II GENE x58 setup.. :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by Spoiler
http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15444/1/Quote:
Originally Posted by Olivon
It looks like the G2 Intel SSD is definitely the drive to buy. Difficult to find one in Canada right now, unfortunately.
Do you guys find that 80GB is enough for an OS/App drive?
I just got my shipping notice as well. Expected delivery is Friday (I paid the $2.99 for two day shipping, so sue me =P), and it's coming from California.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lu(ky
hello, do you know if they sell in europe (italy) ? i am sorry but I cannot find this information on their website ..:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Oberon
Find a German/EU seller that ships to Italy (I would guess most do).
I am getting 4x160GB ones from Germany next week.
I agree, maybe the Intel V series equals Kingston's V series, JMicron controller ( 64KB cache) based. Hope not.Quote:
Originally Posted by shabby
Anyway, can you provide us a download link for that benchmark? Thanks.
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...odlist=froogle
ZZF is pulling a newegg now on us.
http://www.superwarehouse.com/p.cfm?...ecode=SW09W002
In stock with these guys. Better than ZZF or newegg.
http://www.alex-is.de/PHP/fusion/downloads.php?cat_id=4Quote:
Originally Posted by mk_dir
Really thanks, let's bench! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by shabby
IMO Intel will start flooding the market soon now that the glitches are over.
If people just wait a couple weeks and let ZZF and NG sit on the stock they got prices will drop rather quickly.
Holiday season is still along ways away so if everyone sits tight till Oct 1st prices should be reasonable.
379.99 for a 220.00 retail part is redick
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820167023
or
629.99 for a 440.00 retail part
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820167017
Yeah, you just gotta sit it out for a little while till the other retailers get them in stock, then it will drive the price down. I was lucky to get one at compsource for $235Quote:
Originally Posted by iboomalot
Compsource has them in stock again now for $248, superwarehouse is the best deal for now.
My 2x80 raid 0 test
http://i28.tinypic.com/e6vvon.png
Could you post a crystaldiskmark screen?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kersh
http://i30.tinypic.com/219v1bc.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by CedricFP
Weird.. one 4k is 45mb other is 66mb
They're not testing exactly the same way.
I thought that those were 4k read speeds for a single disk. 2 in raid and only 23 mb?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kersh
man, maybe you don't understand a little particular: in italy we have very unbelievable prices.. in germany usually is better, but for the moment, every shops ask very much for the shipping cost.. for example € 30,00 (43 $)Quote:
Originally Posted by alfaunits
I often buy from USA and they ship by airmail very fast and for very cheap price if you compare our prices..if i remember, 15 $ , or when i was unlucky 25 $ ... nothing if compared with our € 30,00 betweeen our nations..:shakes:
at the end, in europe, for the moment I must to pay your 350 $ (€ 240,00) I think that it is too much:down:
Go look at what two WD Velociraptors do at 4k chunks in Raid 0 and then you will see how impressive these numbers are.Quote:
Originally Posted by CedricFP
This should put things into perspective (single disk numbers, but they make my point):
http://www.bjorn3d.com/Material/revi...rk_4k_Read.jpg
http://www.bjorn3d.com/Material/revi...k_4k_Write.jpg
From this review:
http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1437&pageID=5993
Also, don't forget that most RAID controllers have a lot of trouble keeping up w/ SSDs. They were simply not designed for the kinds of I/O that these devices bring to bear when multiple SSDs are hooked up to one controllers.
The good controllers that can utilize SSDs in RAID fully cost more than the SSDs.
this information is boring compared to AMD HD58xx informationQuote:
Originally Posted by mstp2009
What kind of a post is that? To each their own.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unoid
I think some of these etailers are shady. I bought the 160GB G2 a few days ago from a place called PCUniverse because they claimed they were in stock.
The next day I received a backorder notice... :mad:
I am well aware of how impressive the numbers are when compared with a mechanical HD ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by mstp2009
I own a single Vertex 60 and I get 29 mb/s on 4k reads. Intel exceeds in the 4k area. He should be getting far higher than 23/24 mb/sec on a dual 80GB Raid0 setup.
I suppose if you looked at your own charts and compared them with the Kersh's results, you would see roughly linear scaling for 4k writes, but a strange non-growth in 4k reads.
Buy.com has them back in stock at $228.00 with FREE SHIPPING-----------> H E R E
Price is already up to 265$! Fing Buy.com.
Find the same thing too, just now. That $265 is not directly from Buy.com, its from BeachAudios. A $228 was listed there an hour ago.:mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by vengance_01
BTW, $238.88 at SuperWarehouse, http://www.superwarehouse.com/Intel_...G2C1/p/1568657.
I bought a 1st gen a month ago for around $220 and it included a $20 bay adapter(a fairly nice one)
have fun waiting half a year for a single digit real world performance difference.
Xlink problem is the G1 is overpriced too :( and no TRIM
Thanks! Got mine for $218 shipped thanks to a web promo code. That's just a smidgen tastier than newegg's $350!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lu(ky
$227.99 using Lu(ky's link above right now - no promo code needed + free shipping.... bargain :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Andypro1
Don't forget 4% cashback if you go to buy.com from the bing.com portal. ;)
trim isn't fully necessary with all their BIOS optimizations, and I got it for effectively $200ish, still wasn't a bad deal at the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by iboomalot
well, we'll see if I eat my words...
I doubt you will ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by xlink
G1's run great with the new firmware :)
Hey guys any special links to getting this new 80gb V2 drive up and running. My pack date on box says JUN 24 2009. Do I need to do a FW update first? The only system I have running at the moment is a Windows 7 64bit, and I have been getting BLUE SCREENS lately so I am afraid to run a FW update if it tanks the drive with a blue screen. I think I need to throw in the drive now to see what FW the drive came with.. Any info help would be appreciated..