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The concept of configurable logic defeats the purpose, because the logic needs to be literally laid out with transistors, physically. That means you decide on a spec and it's set in stone. You can't dynamically lay out transistors.Quote:
Originally Posted by lm358
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fpga :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sr7
Essentially, yes, you can create anything you want in hardware -- including full 32-bit microprocessors. Obviously it's not as fine tuned as creating custom fixed-function silicon, but in many cases it doesn't need to be.
well in theory (like fantasizing kind of theory) couldn't modular magnetic fields like those found in Spin Glass could be used to create dynamic logic structures?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sr7
Anyway, you can quote me now, software programmable logic is the future! :D
GPGPU is just moving toward it, slowly, from a different angle...
That's sorta the road things will be going. Larrabee is the first step down this path. With software based rendering, improvements can be made at the software level, while general x86 based cores (although they are very wide) take care of the crunching.Quote:
Originally Posted by lm358
Next year (or later depending on larrabee) Intel will have 3 variaties of CPU core out.
- Large out of ordervery general purpose and very branched Nehalem based cores.
- Small in order general purpose low power Bonnell (silverthorne) based cores
- Small in order very wide but somewhat less general purpose Larrabee based cores
In the future (sandy bridge type stuff) we can use the fact that all our cores are very modular (along with the memory controller, PCIe, QPI) to make up different classes of processor. I could see a chip having some combination of all 3 being awesome. 1 or 2 Bonnell cores to run all the low end software (web/word processing), a few Nehalem cores to tackle the big stuff when it's needed, and Larrabee cores tossed in to take on games and other things that are easily accelerated through massive threading. All of these being able to dynamically scale their clock speeds and power usage based on demand by applications.
well you can, but FPGA's are slow inefficient and would be HUGE on the order of #'s of transistors that are needed to run with the current CPUs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sr7
You don't configure a FPGA as a CPU so why compare them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Blauhung
How many cycles will it take your CPU to do this, for instance:
( (x1 - y1)^2 + (x2 - y2)^2 ) ^ 0.5
Let's say 50 cycles at 2 GHz..
Now let's say the FPGA is only 200 MHz, but can do the entire calculation in 1 cycle.
CPU : 25 ns
FPGA : 5 ns
FPGA already 4 times faster. But wait, why just make one execution unit on our FPGA? We have plently of space for 10 more.. let's do 10 calculations every cycle!
Of course oversimplification, but it will be very powerful for the up and coming smart guys that can harness it I'm sure. More interesting than Larabee to me :yepp:
well, I wish it was that easy ...Quote:
Originally Posted by lm358
you just forgot about branching ... data shuffling ... and many other gadget
Not every program do crunch without branching ...
as you can see here, it is not always obvious to port a program to GPU and beat the CPU. (and trust me , those guys are smart)
I found on our PC Review page tha the laung has been moved to 11/3/2008 because everything is finished, can someone confirm it ?
hahah, no one's going to confirm anything
We'll confirm it on the 3rd of Novmeber. :D
:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Drwho?
But does it run on the X86 code, or an added extension of MMX ..?
I don't agree with your "Legacy" argument simply because today we don't have just a faster version of the 486. The CPU has grown outside the X86 instruction set.
Are you saying any Processor that had/has an FPU is "legacy"..?
I can see you using the mantra of "legacy" in some retorts, but your definition seems to be entirely based on software such as MS-DOS for validation. Must I remind you that Motorola based Macs could run MS-DOS in emulation? It has evolved so much that the 286/386/486 architecture is barley seen within the CPU anymore. There is more RISC/CISC features in the i7 than ever... One might argue the "legacy" is Microsoft.
X64 is the future... everything else will be emulation. Like someone else suggested... Who cares if it boots up MD-DOS, as long as it can use it. So that goes more back to software legacy than it does anything else.
Anyways, since you've never defined what your definition of "legacy" is and it has somehow has become the "understood you" of this thread, I thought I'd interject some objectivity into this thread.
i7 + Win7 = iWin14
Software must now expand out instead of up wards. Speed is one thing, quickness is another. Coders are the new frontier-men!
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here is the beginning of the nightmare ....
http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/view...nalId=kb404898
it is going to break in every direction possible, from Generation to generation ... and it is starting already.Quote:
If you experience odd redrawing, lines or garbage pixels (artifacts) in your images, errors, crashes, or if Photoshop closes without an error, then verify you have the most recent driver for your display card installed. Display card manufacturers update many of their drivers frequently to keep up with new operating system and program features.
Legacy is the Key!
lol nice try. This is for people who try to run on 1.5 year old drivers that shipped with Vista, who never installed drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drwho?
It's not like it will continue to have problems or would regress.. you need to be at a certain driver version or higher.
Legacy? I guess cause photoshop feels so organic and friendly on a CPU alone? :rofl:
Below is a list of the Photoshop CS4 and Bridge CS4 features that are accelerated by a GPU. To read more about these features, see "GPU accelerated features in Photoshop and Bridge CS4" (TechNote kb405745).
OpenGL/GPU features in Adobe Photoshop CS4 are:
* Smooth Display at ALL Zoom Levels
* Animated Zoom Tool
* Animated Transitions when doing a One Stop Zoom
* Hand Toss Image
* Birdseye View
* Rotate Canvas
* Smooth Display of Non Square Pixel Images
* Pixel Grid
* Move Color Matching to the GPU
* Draw Brush Tip Editing Feedback via GPU
* 3D GPU features include:
o 3D Acceleration
o 3D Axis
o 3D Lights Widget
o Accelerated 3D Interaction via Direct To Screen
GPU features in Bridge CS4 are:
* Preview Panel
* Full-screen preview
* Carousel-style View
Honestly, how many more years until this "legacy" catches up here?
Do a test, take Badaboom . convert a DVD to iphone format ... then, when you can, take main concept H264 encoder and run it on core i7, and do the same conversion ... :clap: :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sr7
Surprise!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Legacy is surprising, isn't it? You like benchmark? do the test!
i forgot! BADABOOOOOM!
That's NVIDIA's real "Big Bang II", you know. :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Drwho?
let s see what happen if somebody does the test :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Vozer
:yepp::yepp::yepp:
I'm going to take this topic back to where it should be.
The launch and what people want to know before they spend their money.
Even with a NDA one can give a general impression and not anger the powers that be.
It's a thoroughbred and like one it's a little finicky but inside is the heart of a champion.
For pure computational power it will knock the socks off of anything thats out there and thats no BS.
How much computational power does it have?
I have a dual harpertown here running on a SM X7DWA-N MB with the best memory money can buy and the best chips I've ever seen in it..
X5470's running at 3758 on stock 1.225v..
Ask me which machine, the Bloomfield 4 core or the Harpertown 8 core has more power and I'd be hard pressed to pick one over the other.
Yea, it is THAT strong a platform.
Core i7 2.93 SOLD!
Now the next bit is when and how much.
I have a suspicion on when but will keep that to myself as I'm basing that off of info that was leaked and later pulled. We'll see. I'm really hoping it's available soon becasue either way I have to build a new rig and have it done before years end. That includes testing, time to check everything and get the system under water so I'm working with less than a month here. I also have to figure in delivery times so that doesn't leave much time left.
Either way I'm going to *have* to have a multicore rig built by then. It's come down to the Core i7 2.93 and the Q9550, so either way I have system to buy. It just depends on which one is here when the wait is over. That will be soon. We're probably talkign a couple of weeks before I buy one or the other.
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Originally Posted by T_Flight
I am not allow to speak pricing, but i can tell you that it will not be crazy, and we have enough to make everybody happy :yepp:
:up:
Sooo the start of November is coming and I guess that means the cone of silence will be lifted so. . . .woohoo. I'm excited except for the fact that this date coincides with my CHEM3009 exam :down:.
School 1st!Quote:
Originally Posted by MomijiTMO
because later on, with good education, you can buy any toys you want!
Wise words, very wise. Yup I'm going to do well so I can buy things :D
Good words from him.Quote:
Originally Posted by MomijiTMO
Back in 1969 when I got out of HS I 'knew it all"
I'd applied at a few colleges and got accepted and to some pretty good ones but like I said, I knew it all and fast cars and women were all that mattered to me.
I got married, had a kid, divorced, remarried 5 years later, had another kid and was always able to make a decent living because I knew how to speak well, my math skills were excellent and I also didn't mind working hard.
Never chased money as I could always pay my bills and didn't buy what I couldn't pay for.
Then I got to app 45 and realised that the body that had worked so hard all those years wasn't going to be with me forever.
When I was 20 they said" Tuck $20.00 a way per week in an IRA and you'll have a million at age 65 for your retirement"
You think I listened? no..
Be smart, get an education and save your money in secure accounts so it will be there when you get to my age.
That is the best advice I can give to anyone here.
Essentially : Cover your ass and start early.
Wow, you're almost as old as me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
Ummm, yes...3000 level Chem? Hit it man. :yepp: That's science. Science and math...well, chem could be considered math too in a way. Hit them books and rock on! :)
Thanks for the advice. It's pretty hard to stick with studying when all your friends who picked up a trade are buying their second car, going out every weekend, have moved out and travelled around the world. I'm pretty stubborn so to read things like this from people who know better does make me more motivated. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
Little details for the Overclockers preparing their Core i7 stuffs ...
I got many questions about the QPI voltage.
This voltage inclused memory controler and QPI voltage. The default is usually around 1.15v. You got to understand that different technologies are used in this area, that means the power to voltage ratio is different.
you ll see that over 1.3Volts, you will not get much more room for clocking up air cooled. if you stay at 1.22Volts, you can archive already very high speed memory.
Notice that the QPI voltage is shared with the cache, when increasing this voltage, you increase massively the power, due to the number of transistors you are over volting. nothing wrong in the design, it is just the transistor count that is big on this parameter.
Enjoy the fun! and get ready.
thanks for sticking to the NDA ... remember, even the date is under NDA ;-)
Well, we all know it is sometime in November ... Intel's quarterly conference call, Otellini specifically said, 'next month'...Quote:
Originally Posted by Drwho?
I laugh everytime I hear you say that now...the NDA is under NDA. :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by Drwho?
Thanks for the info on these voltages. I need to make a word doc with the heading "OK Voltages--OC Voltages--Holy $&*# Voltages---St00pid Voltages" and then put them into columns. :D
Looking forward to NDANDA lift day and then NDA re-lift day. :)
Lol, it's sometimes so hard to remember about that ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Drwho?
Hey you do realize that every time this thread is bumped my hearth skips a beat right ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by bedlamite
I think PG is road testing these I7 cores under Anonymous team PL, would explain why their the 3rd most producing user suddenly and it does coincide with intels launch. It would also be very good pr for Intel, I don't think anything can beat being able to say your new to be released hw is capable of doing what that new 'user' does for the PandeLab.
:rolleyes: who knows :up:
Pandelab has the GPU's.. These suckers will be huge in WCG.. HUGE!
I keep forgeting to sig that line;
"The NDA is under NDA!":rofl:
so movieman, where's ur preview on core i7?!!! how much of a beast is it?
No that user is ONLY doing SMP wu's, and at an alarming rate to. Mike was the first I think who noticed them and posted here, though I read about it on the official forums before it didn't hit me as being important.Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
But seeing the time table, it could very well be, especially since Mike confirmed it's an SMP only user, who is serieusly kicking more behind then that can off whoopass from nvidia ;)
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.c...t.php?s=&srt=1
There are two anonymous users, one is the default, the other is listed under pandelab. VJ made a statement they had hw donated to them to test or something for undefined time, and as Mike checked the user stats, all the projects ran are SMP work units.
Then I started to think.. what better way to really stress a new cpu then to give them to a cruncher lab and tell them to push them to their limits ( well ofcourse they could give them to you, but you're just one person ;) ).
Probably I'm wrong, but there is a small small chanche I'm not and I would serieusly both be :rofl: and giving a real big :up: to Intel.
Mmm...x86 GPU :p:
Marvin_The_Martian: If it is GPU (Larrabee) you could run SMP client out of the box.
Ow but isn't Larrabee not even taped out???
Might be time to exchange the olde E6600... Been holding strong for 2 years now, through 4 different GFXs, so for fairness' sakes, it might be its turn now :p:
Hope they outperform as badly as we've been told up until now... :)
Best Regards :toast:
Im sure it is since its been demoed and tested at 1Ghz.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marvin_The_Martian
Engineering samples to more people should also be out in late 2008. And thats now.
Larrabee "2" is also already in development with more job hirings.
https://intel.taleo.net/servlets/Car...=en&csNo=10000
You know google searches for Larrabee tape out ended me up right here in a thread where you been very active :rofl:
Idk what they have, I just know it's kicking some serieus ass :up:
Haha!Quote:
Originally Posted by Marvin_The_Martian
Ok let me help with the google... :rofl:
http://beyond3d.com/content/news/565
But yes, it is tapped out and in ES samples to various people. And its a folding monster. (But that was also expected). The only questionable thing is its "game" power.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Otellini
Yeah actually XS where one of the first few links I did get to the part about late 08 tape out but nothing definitive...
Man if this is really larrabee crunching here, everyone who is going to upgrade to I7 will just have to do the same when larrabee hits the stores as the output from whatever equipment they have is incredible :eek2:
:ROTF: It's amazing man. Everybody gets wrapped up in these new releases, but Intel is never standing still. They just keep pushing what is the bleeding edge continuously.
BTW, I would love to have one of the Skynet Engineering Samples. I'm ready! Lay it on me! :D
Before this get miss quoted in the news papers ... this has nothing to do with Larrabee.
The plot thickens.
One thing to remember guys. It's possible somebody could have 6 GTX280's folding right now if they had a Sample from Asus on that P6T6. That would be extremely fast on the GPU client. I don;t think there would be anything faster unless there is some top secret hardware out there folding, or some kind of prototype hardware testing being done using Folding.
6 GTX280 would be extremely powerful. if they were tweaked they could get something like 48,000 PPD. That assumes 8000 points per card which is quite reachable.
just had a look at our distributor pricing........it looks really REALLY depressing
you can see what RRP is listed at http://www.synnex.com.au/Default.asp...t=False&page=5
reseller margin is ok so sell price will be below that for sure but not by a huge way
i know its new tech and all but this pricing will have to come down or aussies just wont buy them in big numbers imo
:rofl::rofl::rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
If we assume the 965 will settle around $1100 US price (which is a retail price, with distributor and retail margins built in) even with the pathetic Aussie $ then that equals $1800 give or take. Add in 10% tax we get around $2k. Then add a bit of extra margin and these should be going for $2100-$2200. Thats still a :banana::banana::banana::banana:load, but even $2200 is a bargain compared to what they are charging.
Bloody price gouging importers.. They'll just blame the exchange rate, but hundreds will be going into the greedy buggers pockets. :down: maybe the retailers here will make $50 off one lol
Booj that price estimate of yours is still below wholesale buy price by some margin
AUD$ retailer listed prices from one local retailer heh
Intel Core2 i7 920 2.66Ghz CPU, LGA1366 8mb, 45nm, DDR3 1066
CP-BX80601920 Pre Order $671.00
Intel Core2 i7 940 2.93Ghz CPU, LGA1366 8mb, 45nm, DDR3 1066
CP-BX80601940 Pre Order $1133.00
Intel Core2 i7 965 Extreme 3.20Ghz CPU, LGA1366 8mb, 45nm, DDR3 1066,
CP-BX80601965 Pre Order $2568.50
when he sells the CPUs will will probably be able to go buy a cappucino from the enormous profit he's made :rofl:
Trust me, at the first possible second I am allowed to post I will.Quote:
Originally Posted by ap4lifetn
Been running benches till the little beastie was screaming for me to give her a rest!:rofl:
How much of a beast?
I basicly build and use dual socket 8 core machines as I prefer the dependability and smoothness of those over the single socket gaming boards BUT this thing has some real balls to it.
Yea, it's a beast all right.. It is the real McCoy.:up:
I can't wait to get my hands on the dual socket version but i might have issues there..
I think the Government might raid the house and steal it because of it's capabilities!:rofl:
Can't decide on a title for my thread when the NDA ends.
Either:
"Nehalem, it's whats for dinner"
or
"Nehalem, when you only care to run the very best!"
Thats my point exactly. We've got accounts with a few suppliers and knowing the wholesale prices, it's just insane what they are charging for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
News papers should be more carefull then, we we're only curious and PL having hw donated to them for testing capable of this does smell like it's either a big pr stunt ( Nehalem? ) or a big test of something incredibly good at crunching ( Larrabee? ). I mean, Nvidia did do it right with their whoopass, atleast in the sence of getting the message accros to allot of people what a gpu can do for computing power, maybe Intel saw that and decided to return the favour tenfold, hey we can have such high hopes about their aspirations can we ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Drwho?
Nehalem is not a monster like you said, Game performance is +/- the same like Core 2, in some aplications is Core i7 better, but nothing special ...
calm down Movieman Core i7 for that money is total "", and YES end of NDA is under NDA = total stupid ...
But in few days you will be maybe surprised ... whats will be released ... :D
Where was it demoed? Are you thinking about the Polaris research chip that hit the headlines again?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shintai
but you forget, our buddy Dave doesn't game, he's looking at crunching throughput which is where i7 really is a monster.Quote:
Originally Posted by OBR
Siggraph if im not mistaken. Its not about the Polaris. This is a 1Ghz running Larrabee.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blauhung
Im sure RAD game tools also got a few versions ;)
Dreamworks also seems quite convinced....
It was simulated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shintai
Actual silicon should tape out any day now.
yup, simulated, and I can't comment on the second part:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by savantu
Most tests we have seen so far were pretty good, overall nehalem seems to be far, far ahead of penryn, but surprisingly there were also some (mostly single-threaded) benchmarks that showed zero gains or reduced performance (games, TMPGEnc w/ smt, CrystalMark 2004R3). Do you mean there will be more of the latter or are you talking from the POV of a biased gamer? (contrary to popular belief the world does not revolve around gaming)Quote:
Originally Posted by OBR
I think dkanter from RWT was quite convinced that nehalem will be a beast (in the server world). :D
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Intel Preps Overclocking Application for its Core i7 Processors
During IDF Taipei earlier last week Intel demonstrated its DCC (Desktop Control Center) overclock software for the forthcoming Intel Core i7 processors. The DCC is a easy to work with software that will allow overclocking in Windows environment and help novice overclockers and experts. The Desktop Control Center can adjust CPU multiplier, voltage, memory timings and clock speed as well as various system voltage options such as the QPI voltage. The DCC also gives you the option to switch on and off Turbo Boost in Windows, and monitor system temperature readings.
http://www.techpowerup.com/img/08-10...e24d99_thm.jpg
HARDSPELL
http://www.techpowerup.com/74803/Int...rocessors.html
regards
If the NDA lift on Penryn last year was October 31, 2008, will the NDA lift on Nehalem be within the same timeframe?
I'm expecting either October 31st or November 3rd, but since no one cares to speculate with me I'll just leave it at that. :rolleyes:
I think you are forgetting one little point ... Yorkfield is a monster at games , it did create a very hard to beat competitor. When you look at Phenoms, it is in average 30% behind, in some case more. Adding a 3rd level of Cache and not losing performance, and being able to be around the performance of yorkfield is more than outstanding. Nehalem is a processor that will get some serious boost on video (Will beat Badaboom), will be awesome at 3D rendering, and will be the only server chip that sane person should buy.Quote:
Originally Posted by OBR
And as I always say to the people who feel compelling to criticize with big words as "stupid", try to do it yourself and see if you can do better than us :)
In all fairness, give me your budget, I'll move that over to AMD and I won't be that surprised if they could come up with something atleast competative. I'm not trying to down talk your archievements, I think since the A64 days, Intel has been pressed hard to come up with an architecture which will be very hard to beat, even if you also have the process node advantage over AMD, you deliverd on the architecture big time :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Drwho?
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Originally Posted by Marvin_The_Martian
I am ok to get challenged or criticized, I am not ok when big words are use as "stupid". The OC community can gain a lot by becoming less "fan boy" and more rational. I am very happy to have AMD next to us, keeping us running fast. As a technologist, I love competition, and most of the engineers at Intel do. Just for one reason: "AMD strong = I can ask my manager for more feature in the CPU :) to go faster"
And again, the "hate" between AMD and Intel exist only in the mind of fan boys, our Kids share the same Sunnyvale and Santa Clara schools, they go to same summer camps. The press is mainly responsible for this feeling, they use sentences with WAR terms. This can only generate issues and create artificial camps, leading to hate, and this is wrong.
Try to keep the olympic spirit, as I do, and let s the race continue! Take the high road, you will get out better!
I already knew, but it's good to have it repeated on the forum coming from you. Maybe some of the 'fanboys' here will listen to reason, though then again, that goes against the definition of fanboy.
Btw, you're making the intel engineers seem unhuman, sure they like to go fast, but a strong AMD also means they can say, Hey manager, increase my paycheck because I'm the one who's keeping you ahead :rofl: You're still human are you ;)
well, Give me the cash! :rofl: :rofl: :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by Marvin_The_Martian
I vote post of the week :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Drwho?
Lulz :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Drwho?
I somehow knew you were going to post that video. HILARIOUS :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by Drwho?
:clap: to Luc Besson for that movie.
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Originally Posted by Movieman
Can I have it when your finished with it??
:kissbutt::kissbutt::kissbutt::kissbutt::kissbutt: :kissbutt::kissbutt::kissbutt::kissbutt::kissbutt: :kissbutt::kissbutt:
:sick::sick::sick::sick::sick::sick::sick::sick:
I can only go on what I observe and what I see says to me that yes it is a monster in terms of the increase in computational power over the previous generation(Yorkfield and in my case Harpertown cpu's)Quote:
Originally Posted by OBR
I don't game so I can't comment on that factor.
I don't lie, I'm not paid by Intel and my comments are my own not influenced by anyone's opinions except what I see with my own eyes.
Last, I didn't receive this system thru Intel but thru other means so realistically I am not under a signed NDA but under a personal one as it's a matter of honor not legality. You don't spit in someone's face that has done you the immense favor of letting you test an as yet unreleased system by posting benchmarks in the public sector as some have done including yourself.
As to price, they are offerring three levels of chips, and one buys what one decides is best for his/her own financial situation and that has always been the case.
Look at the Harpertowns for example;
A pair of E5420's that will easily do 3GHz can be bought any day for $500.00 if you shop right and will do most anything anyone would have need of but if you want that top speed chip like the QX9775 that will do 4GHz+ you pay close to $3000.00 a pair.
That is life my friend and carries over to all forms of the marketplace.
Yes, you hit it perfectly and it is.:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Blauhung
Who are you? What's your name again?:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by runmc
To all, Runmc is the guy that first told me about Xs over 3 years ago and as good a person as you will ever meet..;)
But that means nothing with your i7 in between :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
If I was sure he'd put it on WCG and not try to freeze it for benchmarks I might rethink my response..;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shintai
Whoa! :rolleyes: I bet he won't be getting anymore samples. If you don't like the term's of an NDA don't agree to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by OBR
hmmmm so its all runmac's fault then :D
Hmm italy online retailer give now on stock for 18/11 , confirmed retail price too, taking orders :)
INTEL (P.N.: BX80601920)
CORE i7 920 2.66Ghz 1333 8MB LGA1366 BOXED € 259,00 +vat
INTEL (P.N.: BX80601940)
CORE i7 940 2.93 1600 8MB LGA1366 BOXED € 489,00 +vat
INTEL (P.N.: BX80601965)
CORE i7 EXTREME 965 3.2Ghz 1600 8MB LGA1366 BOXED € 879,00 +vat
For US must be surely one week before this date for on stock , italy is always last get new cpus lol
lol nice
next week should be fun according to our OCAU reviewer :D
260€... not bad, not bad at all... :D:D:D
Intel Core i7-920 289.00€
Intel Core i7-940 548.99€
Intel Core i7 Extreme 965 999.01€
Greece 10 points !! :welcome::rofl:
price gouging in germany/austria sucks right now -> 1163€ (+ vat) for a 965, 678€ for a 940 and 378€ for a 920 :down:
hmm maybe i'll make my order in italy. :D
Here:
Intel Core i7-920 280.00€
Intel Core i7-940 545.99€
Intel Core i7-965 973.01€
All prices include VAT, and this is only one store, the rest still don't have them listed :yepp:
Germany has higher wages, so don't complain. We can afford everything here... ;)
Scary to see the huge changes from shop to shop as posted here. Or country to country. And they all get it from Intel at 284-999$ prices.
I remember when I bought my E6600 at launch, the cost was on pair with Intel + vat + reseller = £220, rip-off's were every where. I will not pay more for an I7 920 than what I previously paid for my E6600.
There are 2 options about DDR3, since dual channel 2x1GB DDR3 memory from Crucial rated at CL6 1.80 is as cheap as £75, no reason for a full fledged triple channel just yet concerning price anomalies. So even dual channel with a low latency will be more than enough for a 6 months needs. I just hope Crucial will launch a 3x1GB modules rated 1.65 CL7 for I7.
Motherboards, Foxconn Blood Rage or Eclipse is all that I have in mind. If the Blood Rage is less than £150 then I will buy it, else Eclipse all the way.
Metroid.
lol at these pre-order prices...
Intel Core i7 920 2.66Ghz (Nehalem) (Socket LGA1366) - Retail
Pre-order £229.99
(£270.24)
Intel Core i7 940 2.93Ghz (Nehalem) (Socket LGA1366) - Retail
Pre-order £419.99
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Intel Core i7 965 3.20Ghz (Nehalem) Extreme Edition (Socket LGA1366) - Retail
Pre-order £749.99
(£881.24)
lol are you joking? You will be lucky if either of those boards are under £200 :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Metroid
Well the above statement is clear if the Blood Rage is over 150 then I will buy the Eclipse regardless of the price :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sumanji
Metroid.
Triple Channel Kits are on the EGG!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...sktop%20Memory
That 6GB DDR3-1600 g.skill kit looks great!
hmm first shops already have the ASUS P6T Deluxe ready for shipment... thought for 300€+ :p:
First time i see that insane price gouging in europa. :shakes:
Lowest prices in Holland for each board!
http://img.techpowerup.org/081030/x58_boards.jpg
If the Eclipse didn't come with all that power monitoring garbage it would be a hell of a lot cheaper...
im going to be jumping on the core i7 train but im in australia so things are a bit more expensive , so i was going to go for a core i7 920, maybe gigabyte board , but im thinking of been tight and going for a G.SKILL 3GB (3 x 1GB) DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit to start with , and then later down the track get another 3gb kit and have 6gb, would (3 x 1GB) be enough to start with ?
or shall i just pay bit more and get G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Triple Channel Kit to start with ?
i think i would rather have 1600 mhz ddr3, im going to be water cooling and oc'ing the sucker as far as she goes :D
Always go for lower density configs (i.e. 6x1>3x2)Quote:
Originally Posted by freshy
Doesnt matter. Unless the ratings are different. Always 3x2Gb over 6x1GB unless 6x1GB is cheaper and you dont have any ambition for more memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slovnaft
but with a 6x1 config you can switch out to 3x1 to push clocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shintai
but maybe i just <3 modularity too much.
edit: and i guess i don't know how qpi and imc will behave yet, but it seems to me the imc will allow ram configs to affect clocking even more, so it would be nice to have that option.
Wishful thinking, Blackops is 255£+ inc vat, foxconn p45 ELA is 225£ inc vat, even the foxconn digital life am2 board is 210£ inc vat, so I fear the Bloodrage will be closer to 300£ than 200£.Quote:
Originally Posted by Metroid
The msi should be a good option though if it comes to prices.
These above examples you gave are some of most expensive boards in the market.Quote:
Originally Posted by naokaji
MSI Eclipse for £250 not bad at all, any board to offer me 20 x 200 = 4.0 then will be it and the Eclipse is clearly the only hope, any other reference?
Metroid.