^^^ nice clock. Is that stable though? Just asking.
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^^^ nice clock. Is that stable though? Just asking.
too stable :) ill OC it more later
:) haha, is that the 125w version or the 140w???Quote:
Originally Posted by unkn0wnhacka
Ill tell you once I get info on how to get higher voltage for the cpu in aod Im already at 270fsb check it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by RASTAVIPER
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...g?t=1224899161
heres validation at 270fsb 3.25ghz
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=437028
The highest I can go with 1.45v is 3.3ghz, I need more volts I booted at 280fsb but it locked up on the desktop as I was ready to validate. I need more voltage to push this cpu further.
How can I get higher volts than 1.45?
have you tried your BIOS????Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan7171
Messing around with CPU Tweak in my bios, enabling it gives you a nice performance boost. Thanks to the few members in here who guided me on this :)
CPU Tweak off:
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9...1520ed5.th.jpghttp://img207.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif
CPU Tweak on:
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/4...2384nh3.th.jpghttp://img265.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicken Patty
Wow, your scores are higher then mine"Edit: I mean lower times.. sorry if that was confusing..", what's diff..?
AMD Boost OFF
http://3800z24.info/Phenom/9950/32bi...st_off_3.2.JPG
AMD Boost On
http://3800z24.info/Phenom/9950/32bi...ost_on_3.2.JPG
these overclocks are from the bios, which only goes to 1.45v, I was hoping someone would tell me how to get it to 1.6v in aod so I can boot with these settings then continue overclocking in windows with aod with higher voltages!Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicken Patty
[QUOTE=charged3800z24;3381333]Wow, your scores are higher then mine"Edit: I mean lower times.. sorry if that was confusing..", what's diff..?
I dont know what to tell you. What are your ram timings, also what speed is your RAM set to in the bios.
damn dude, thats weird, do you have the latest BIOS for your board?Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan7171
Also, just so you know. At least its the case with me.
When I set the Bios to 1.55v for example. AOD only lets me go as high as 1.45. So if i change the clock or something it automatically lowers the cpu voltage to 1.45v. So I have to do everything from the bios when clocking at a speed that requires more than 1.45v.
[QUOTE=Chicken Patty;3381465]Ram is unganged and 2 x 1gig OCZ Reaper set 1066mhz 5-5-5-15 18, but this board run 64bit ram when in unganged mode with only 2 sticks.Quote:
Originally Posted by charged3800z24
set the vcore in bios as high as you want. then adjust CPU VID in AOD. AOD will show stock 1.3v VID. what ever you give above 1.3v VID you will notice that added to total core voltage in CPU-Z etc. Look At my pic below, I had 1.45v in bios, and bumped VID from 1.3v to 1.37v VID. Total Vcore is higher.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan7171
http://3800z24.info/Phenom/9950/32bit/3.5ghz_9950.JPG
Thanks for the info charged, but for me when I set it at 1.5v it alrady show the highest vcore in AOD.
About the RAM, I dont know bro. Seem slike everything is good. I run my RAM unganged as well.
3.3 GHz super pi with CPU Tweak enabled
Looking really good so far
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5...2323jl5.th.jpghttp://img207.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif
mine also sets to whatever I set in the bios into aod but I guess something is overvolting because I got 1.5v now:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicken Patty
Im more happy now :)
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...g?t=1224920682
21.672 at superpi, but still no stability for my phenom
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/9...6mhzba9.th.jpg
For sure it's not the temps, as in idle I am around 25 degrees.
I haven't tried more vcore since M3A79-T doesn't let me above 1,53, but I tried all other voltages to increase them with no luck.
How do you keep stable your Phenom's at high mhz??
very nice clock bro. My M3A79-T lets me go over 1.6v, are you sure you cant go over 1.53v??Quote:
Originally Posted by RASTAVIPER
here is my best Pi 1m so far.. I need to find why it is a lil slower then it should be..It is on my Win XP 64 load. It seems to like my OCs better.
http://3800z24.info/Phenom/9950/winxp64/3.4_Pi_64.JPG
I get an Overvoltage error during post and when I enter at windows, my vcore goes to 1,45 instead the 1,55+ that I put in BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicken Patty
This is the part I need to figure outQuote:
Originally Posted by RASTAVIPER
we ran same speed 3.6 GHz
I needed 1.55v
he only needed 1.45v
my ram was 1130
his was 928
and he beat my SPi time by 1/10 of a second
Here is another attempt in Win 32bit XP. I found that 240HT reference (FSB) is max. I have no voltage control for it in the bios. So, I might get my 790FX/SB750 board early..;)
http://3800z24.info/Phenom/9950/32bit/3.3_240_Pi.JPG
hehe got a little better:D
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...n771/22547.jpg
240 and 273 on the ref clock
you guys know how to rub it in :cussing:
^^^ nice scores guys. I definately need to clock my CPU a bit higher :(
LOL.. I didn't know I was :p:, i thought 240 was bad...but 270..that is much better...;)Quote:
Originally Posted by AMDDeathstar
you kidding right?:ROTF::rofl: you slap us in the face with 3.6ghz, then you ask us how to get high clocks stable when you should be telling us how you did it:yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by AMDDeathstar
You are some piece of work:D
btw all of us seem to have one or two excellent aspects combined with a couple bad ones, none of us have the perfect system where everything combines for an a more balanced result
;)
What fsb did you have?And what spi did you have?Quote:
Originally Posted by AMDDeathstar
these phenoms keep looking better and better
i hope deneb gives us a nice good surprise :)
you are not alone on that my friend :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by LightSpeed
21.762 secQuote:
Originally Posted by RASTAVIPER
212x17= 3.604 GHz
posts #185 and #191 in this thread
even when I drop my ram divider down to 800 the highest I got was 222
well since 64 bit is giving me I crappy clock.
I think I'm going to get a another windows 32 bit XP/or Vista though.
I'm leaning towards vista (crossfire X) I
t will be on it's own hard drive might get two or three drives.
yup I just went back to XP I lost about 150mhz going from xp to Vista 32 with aditional stability problems i tested it for 2 months. Ill reinstall it again in a few months.Quote:
Originally Posted by demonkevy666
I can actually run some benches in Win XP 64 at 3.4ghz. I which is my highest in Win XP 32. So far, the OCing is the same in both..no better, no worse..
150mhz isn't bad, 64 bit I could be losing about 400mhz maybe more. since I you ne4ed more volts for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan7171
You know I really dont see any positives going 64bit, i mean ive never really looked into it but from all the people who use it get, lower clocks, less support for games and much more buggy os:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by demonkevy666
what actual improvement does it bring to the table?
Cinebench runs faster LOL...I know I have no real need for it personally, i just lik to see what differs when benching...i primarily use my XP 32bit. Although i do use the Vista 32 Home premium for my multimedia..it is on three systems. 2 are primary TV boxes. Never tried Vista 64. I have harder times getting stable OCs in Vist 32 then my Win XP 64..Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan7171
Just upgraded to a phenom setup from a c2d and so far so good. Just did a quick test with the crummy stock cooler and have 2.8 stable so far. I did manage to get 3 to boot to windows but it bsods in games at default voltage. Definatly looking forward to playing with this one further.
Congrats man, great buy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentential
Is the setup in your sig updated?
What Chip were you running before? Glad to here you trying out a Phenom. This is the place to be, if help is what you need. I can get 3.0 no ACC stock v's. But anything else I found needs some ACC help and more voltage. Good luck and keep us posted...:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentential
Ya thats the one I figured if I were going back to AMD I would go with the thing that was denied to me for the better part of 4 years.. SLI lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Chicken Patty
I had a Q9300 and an X38 setup from before. Nothing wrong with it from a tech standpoint it worked flawlessly as does all intel stuff ive had in the past I simply wanted to transition to Deneb and get the most for my equipment that I could before the prices nosedive.Quote:
Originally Posted by charged3800z24
As for results I'm running it stock for now until this Xigmatek gets here, then Im shooting for 3ghz minimum
cool man. The deneb I think is going to be great IMO. I'm glad you're tying out AMD and once you get your Xigmatek keep us posted. We are here to help. What are your temps right now at stock v's? Maybe you can kick up the vcore a bit and stabilize at a higher clock with the stock cooler.Quote:
Sentential;3384447]Ya thats the one I figured if I were going back to AMD I would go with the thing that was denied to me for the better part of 4 years.. SLI lol
On stock cooler I did what I am now on water, no problem. Of course water runs lot cooler in my rig.
I am at 3.2 GHz for daily settings.
You're probably at a much cooler location that am I, getting about 51c* idle and 60c*+ on load with stock cooler at stock settingsQuote:
Originally Posted by Chicken Patty
damn that is pretty high. Where do you live?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentential
I live in Southern Florida so its really hott here. Room temp usually between 70-75ºF
I used to get about 38-40ºc idle, and 55-57ºc load more or less.
Now on water I get about 27ºc idle and 40ºc load, sometimes about 41-42ºc load.
what buggy OS ?.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan7171
it's more like old programs that don't want to run most will run fine with no problems.
anyways Grid seem put a huge load in 64 bit. when playing that game I've gotten higher temps then using core damage lol
64 bit can find an unstable overclock much quicker.
I have to agree with you on GRID. Why? I dont know, but it does put a heck of load on my rig under 64bitQuote:
Originally Posted by demonkevy666
good coding for Dx10 ? maybe the best too scales well with multi-cards.
While I wait for my heatsink I decided to try and atleast get the bus/ram where I want it in terms of overclock and Im having a hell of a time doing so. Anything past about 204 on the bus no matter what HT link speed I use results in no post.
Is phenom really touchy as far as high capacity ram is concerned because Im getting nowhere with this thing.
I dunno,.. i hit a 240 HT wall. What are the other settings...?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentential
I can post up to 285FSB, don't know why over 204 you are having that problem. Could be the mobo maybe? Still 204 thats only 4 mhz over default :(Quote:
Originally Posted by charged3800z24
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicken Patty
Ya I figured out what it was. Hybrid SLI for those lurkers reading = FAILQuote:
Originally Posted by charged3800z24
Soon as I turned it off previous settings that were non-postable immediatly worked without issue lol :up:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...hybridfail.jpg
[QUOTE=Sentential;3384834]Ya I figured out what it was. Hybrid SLI for those lurkers reading = FAIL
Soon as I turned it off previous settings that were non-postable immediatly worked without issue lol :up:
Great, thanks for the update. Glad you got it figured out :)
[QUOTE=Chicken Patty;3384844]Yea, one would think that some major feature of a motherboard series would not cause serious stability issues when used with a card is supposed to support it without issue. Apparently not :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentential
Im guessing that the occasional "cmos checksum bad" might have had something to do with this.
yes I finally broke 3500....3535 to be exact:D
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=438036
Well done :up:...Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan7171
Ive noticed the 79-T likes the PCI-E to stay @ 100,, im used to setting 101 with other Mobos .Ive found that as HTT goes higher my soundcard would lock..Indicating the PCI-e was going up too..So setting 100 keeps it 100% locked.
good job titan, gotta love seen numbers that high in CPU-Z hehe.
Thanks guys, and all on air btw. i think I found my 24/7 settings looks like it will be
258x13 for 3.35ghz (for now:) 6gigs 2x2gb and 2x1gb sticks so all 4 slots are being used, ram 1/2 for 516mhz 5,5,5,15,25,2T. Ill be posting a screeny a bit later.
:up::up::clap::clap: Great job!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan7171
actually this seting is working just as good
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...00screenie.jpg
thats a really decent score in the generic CPU bench. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan7171
^^ nice o/c at 1.3v :)
I should have waited for the 125w'ers, they seem to clock well and with less volts, based on what I have seen around.
funny thing is I was aware that they were out and available on Newegg when I bought mine. I just rather have it on the spot and I went ahead and picked it up locally. Should have just ordered it on line though :(Quote:
Originally Posted by charged3800z24
Look at it this way, all the more reason to get Deneb. Im in the same boat as you and frankly couldnt care less. 4 months from now ill have deneb and 4ghz so MEH!Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicken Patty
ya same here, Deneb is my next buy. Can't wait, should be interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentential
Deneb is on the horizon for me also
here goes some more
3.6ghz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=438388
nice clock on the FSB :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan7171
Finally have the new heatsink, so far so good
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...moverclock.jpg
Having issues getting this thing to stay stable at any frequency over 3ghz and I think I found out why. Despite throwing 1.55v at 3ghz it wasnt stable but if you look at the screenshot I provided earlier my NB freq is really really high.
What's the multiplier for NB in BIOS normally called? because 200 x 15 @ 3 looks 100% stable at like 1.40v. I think this may also be linked to why hybrid SLI was not working correctly from before
its usually CPU NB multiplier. You can give the CPU nb and the NB a bit of voltage to stable it though. I can do 2500 NB with only a minor minor voltage increase.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentential
Ill give that a try, still having issues with getting 3ghz stable but I am begining to think that is related to my lack of ACC and the SB750 since I am on an nvidia chipset.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicken Patty
the nvidia chipsets are that bad though let me tell you. However I think with ACC you could do better. Probably your problem right there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentential
Just seen my first stable results at 3.4g with 1,425 vcore at 5-4-4.
15x228 and I can run Farc Cry 2 and wprime32x2.
Max temp 39 degrees.
nice results guys
trying not to buy a 9950 (despite the great results I have seen) and just hold out for what should be coming shortly after x-mas :D
Ugh not what I wanted to hear, my hope was that nvidia chipsets were better than their intel cousins. The board feels stable it just wont go to 3ghz so Im not sure if thats a problem with the board or the CPUQuote:
Originally Posted by Chicken Patty
well i'm just going based on what i've seen, and some people have gotten some good results let me tell you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentential
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicken Patty
thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by Chicken Patty
still testing more settings. I tried out that hardware oc switches that are on the mobo pretty good it booted up at 240mhzfsb the only thing is its locked out in the bios if you do the switches oc. I was hopeing I could continue overclocking the fsb in the bios and see if it made a difference but it wasnt to be. But it did work so that kinda cool:shrug:
My temps right now are solid (47C* @ 1.55v) so my next question would be what is the max safe voltage for these chips because I am considering burning this one in at like 1.7v since its 40F outside and I like it cold. (because 1.7v i know will make it run stable)
I would not try to go over 1.55v, but I ran mine at 1.63v for about an hour or two. Still alive. I dont know man, I really dont know whats the max, I guess it depends a lot on how far your cooling can goQuote:
Originally Posted by Sentential
Well Im going to try my previous methods with AMD chips and so far it looks to be working ok. I just ran CPU burn on the chip at very high voltage (1.6v) for the last 18 hours and now it appears that 3ghz at 1.45v is stable now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicken Patty
Ill continue the usual process of backing it off and hopefully I will get back to 3.1 stable :D
cool man, let us know how it goes, hope it works out :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentential
Hey I have been getting system errors in my system logs. I ran mem test 86+ and my ram is fine SO I know it is not the ram... But with ACC, when I run any stress test, whether @ stock or OC'd, I get system errors and my system reboots. Not all the time just depends.. I also get "error caused by device driver...." anyone have this ?.. I don't have this with ACC off.
Oh check out my idle temp with ACC off and @ 3.0ghz.. Swiftech H20 Apogee kit..I think it was worth the $190.00 US I paid for it..Ok, so all my gear is mounted outside the case..Ok..so my fans are on 12v, ..Yes My pump is on high...ok..it is 70F in hear...
http://3800z24.info/Phenom/9950/32bit/idle_temps.JPG
I decided to try with ACC auto off and set to +4 all cores...and I have my best Super Pi 1m
http://3800z24.info/Phenom/9950/32bit/Sup_Pi_3.5ghz.JPG
dude last time i got system errors, my CPU was dying (9850BE). Hopefully thats not the case, and after that Super pi run, I dont think so, congrats.Quote:
Originally Posted by charged3800z24
man I hope not...45nm isn't even out yet..I'd have to buy a 125w 9950..Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicken Patty
I wish I had a way to really get this thing cold...I bet I could really crank out an OC...
I bet.Quote:
Originally Posted by charged3800z24
The error I was getting when my CPU was dead was this one:
WMIxWDM Machine Check Error
A machine check error is an error in the processor that is detected by the OS and is correctable (if it wasn't, your machine would bugcheck/bluescreen). This usually signifies that your processor may need to be repaired/replaced (hopefully under warranty), as these are hardware errors happening in the processor. Since these only occur when running x64 versions of Windows, it would stand to reason that these errors are occurring in one of the additional registers addressable only by 64bit software. You can disable this error on Server 2003, but since it is a serious error, you should try to replace that hardware under warranty while you still can.
Here is my error
http://3800z24.info/Phenom/9950/error.JPG
http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?e...System&phase=1
Quote:
Error code 1000008e = "KERNEL_MODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED_M" - Most of newsgroup comments about this error point to faulty hardware or drivers. The hardware varies from modems, video cards, USB device to memory or sound cards. Sometimes it proves to be hardware that it is not compatible with Windows XP. M310740 gives an example of this error occuring when and old Audigy sound card driver is installed.
i wonder if ACC effects the PCI bus..It only happens with ACC onQuote:
Originally Posted by justapost
Ok I want to start ocing my phenom 9950 be. I plan on using AOD for the time being until I can figure out this wierd bios. Anyways what are some settings you guys would reccomend? I was thinking 200x16= 3.2ghz. But im kind of confused on what my Chipset and NB voltage should be? Whats the max? I dont want to burn anything out on my new rig lol. Any help would be awsome.
up your multi one notch at a time dude, dont do big increments. Once it becomes unstable then adjust the CPU voltage little by little and monitor your temps :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisB17
nb and chipset volts don´t necessaryly need to be increased when ur clocking by upping the cpu multi.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisB17
all i adjusted for getting 3.2ghz stable was the cpu vcore and the cpu-nb-vcore and enabling acc for all cores at +2%.
Starting round 2 of the burn-in process, now looks like I have 3.05ghz at 1.4v flat stable so I'm making progress as this would constatnly bsod previously. Also added a RAM fan to help stabilize things out
Also got my first SuperPI-able boot at 3.1 with 1.5v :D
Hi, Whats the max aloud for the CPU-NB ? I want to know so I dont go over what its rated for.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadDias
well it looks like this is the sweet spot for my system unless I go with higher voltage on the cpu.
NB and HT frequency was good up to 2520mhz at the max volts in the bios, fsb is good to 279mhz, memory is good to 1100mhz, cpu went to 3600@1.6v.
So I tried to get the most from every part of the system to get as close to max stable settings in each sector seems like this is it unless I either get better cooling to run 1.55+v 24/7 into the cpu because the next step up is 3.51ghz and I need 1.55v to run at that speed, Im going to try benching at 3.5 tonight but Im pretty happy with this setup now the way it is.
Im also going to try lowering the voltages little by little. Since I know this is stable I can lower each one at a time test for a day and if its good just leave it.
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...th_3375mhz.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...th_memory1.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...71/th_aod1.jpg
Hmmm.
AOD seems to be a bit crappy on my setup (also with my previous 9850BE). I tried both 212 as it's the newest version available from DFI but also 214. It might be that I need to get another BIOS though, but I want to be sure since Im not going to flash for every fart like I did with the 790FX-M2R:p:
Anyway, the problem is that, apart from the GUI which is a bit confusing, I cant seem to get ACC working via AOD. It stays greyed out:confused:. What I mean with the GUI is that whenever you click a setting, which normally would result in a little 'V' as selection, it just doesnt happen. You cant see whether you activated something or not. I hope you guys understand what I mean:p:
Also, I cant seem to get my HTT very high. I didnt try to find the max, but 250Mhz was bootable but would BSOD fairly quick, same for 240Mhz. It's been so long I tried to get the HTT higher on my previous build, which never worked anyway, I might have forgotten some easy solutions to get it higher.
So does VNorthbridge, VSouthbridge, VHT, Vcore or whatever help in this? Or any settings? To be sure I lowered even my RAM multiplier and of course HT and NB multiplier. But it didnt help.
Reached stable Far Cry 2 at 3,480mhz with 1,4375 at bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by RASTAVIPER
232 fsb with 5-4-4
I think I will start burning now my cpu at that speed to see if I can manage to make my system get used at this volt and then get some more fsb.
set the ht and nb multi to 10 for 240mhz fsb and 9 when going over 250 this will give you just the right play to go higher or lower between 2400 and 2550mhz. I raised my nb and HT volts to 1.4-1.45v just for the hell of it to get it stable These voltages will not harm the system if you have a cool running system if your system runs hot with minimal fans I wouldnt go far with voltages.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rammsteiner
It took 1.5v to get to 2520 mhz though on the ht and nb which was too high so I just run between 2400-2500 in that vicinity.
Oh also turn on acc in the bios and set it to +2. If its disabled in the bios I think it stays grayed out in AOD but even if you try and set it in AOD it still makes you reboot so I just set it in the bios and left it like that.
Great job! What are your idle and load temps on air at this vcore?Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan7171
Wow I opened up AMD overdrive. Set my vcore to 1.395, Set NB-vid to 1.370 and the multi to x16 to get 3.2ghz and its 2 hours prime stable. Im amazed it was THAT ez. Oh and I had to put ACC up +4. And my temps are 50*C load and 29* Idle.