Mine is for 24/7 3900Mhz 1.280v :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by aoch88
I could use 4ghz for 24/7 easy :up:
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Mine is for 24/7 3900Mhz 1.280v :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by aoch88
I could use 4ghz for 24/7 easy :up:
yes it can. i ran mine @ 8x500 1.42v until i decided it was time for the processor to die.Quote:
Originally Posted by aoch88
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...7200stable.jpg
My stable 24/7:
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/8...ct1horaxp2.jpg
:)
Yeah definitely, mine is running stable at 4ghz (500*8) at 1,4V. The thing is that its 3,8ghz stable at 1.26V so it seems like you need to upper the juice to 1.4V+ to get it stable at 4ghz.
How high do you think I could get mine 24/7 with stock voltages and stock cooler?
currently @ 2.75 its at 39 idle/ 45 load
When it comes to overclocking its alot about trail and error my friend, so increase the speed stepwise and you will notice when it becomes unstable.
If I were you I would turn up the vcore to 1,25-1,28V then just upper the speed to around 3-3.2ghz. If its stable go ahead increase the speed more and see when it becomes unstable. Just remember to increase the power to the NB, memmory and so on so you know for sure that its the cpu thats making it unstable. I assume that you have a motherboard capable of a fsb of 400.
As I wrote earlier it seems like you can reach 3.5-3.8 ghz with a vcore of 1.26-1.3 which shouldnt be a problem for a stock cooler. Im using a Tuniq Tower cooler which is turned down to minimum fanspeed and my temperatures are ~40 idle and ~70 load.
I've got a DFI X38 dark. I'm just hoping for a 3.0. I think I should hit that just fine today.
aim for 3.8 these cpu's can do 3.8 with relative ease, just getting to 4ghz and beyond the voltage rises dramatically.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riggs
my 24/7 atm :
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/6127/sdgfsafx0.jpg
and max superpi 1MB(made a screen with realtemp and spi but it didn't save and its too late and im 2 lazy to go 4.5ghz again :P)
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=379243
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/4818/cpuze7200rx9.jpg
Hi stingush,Quote:
Originally Posted by stingush
Could you post a spi 1M/32M @ 4 or 3.6Ghz?
I'm a little interrested in that cpu.
here you go 4.1ghz(win isn't tweaked and so are mem timings.. 15-5-5-5)
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/9320/sad3tez8.jpg
@stingush,
nice scores, what batch?
Batch # : Q813A557
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/230...2541290qn0.jpg
I'm running 24/7 @ 4GHz w/ 1.45 (set in bios) on P5Q Deluxe
Not bad for 130 bucks.
Question: what is the safe and reasonable vcore for 24/7 on AIR cooling for this processor??
stinguish: what's the VID on that chip?
stock is 1.050 or less i dont remember and i'm 2 lazy to check..(been stable on 4.1ghz 1.34V for more than 24hours orthos so im 2 lazy to go to stock again :P
stock V is 1.050 as i tought so.
little update
4.6ghz valid(still air cooled)
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=379581
http://valid.x86-secret.com/ccpuz.ph...9581&nocache=1
and 500X9 SPI 1MB test(i guess i can also do SPI 1MB on 4550 but didn't try)
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/6...5151612am7.jpg
@stingush,
thanks for the batch bro. you got yourself a very nice chip.
Not so stable but on cheap water: 4680 mhz
How much Vcore I'm able to give to this, until it gets broken?
your vid is already too high i guess... and your chip isn't that good :P(mine doing 4600mhz on 1.55V aircooled(TT BT))
alright guys...today i plan on torturing an E7200 with my DFI LP UT P35-T2R...but which BIOS would work out the best?
I dont know but do share ur results because i have the same board and proc.Quote:
Originally Posted by breakfromyou
my 24/7 setup: Q813A671 , 4 GHz, 1.296 Vcore (1.3125 bios), Asus p5q pro, Xigmatek S1283 (red scorpion)
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/8...rd01kp0.th.jpg
hi man nice temps! the xigmatek is good :)
so which batches are good for this proccy?
This turned out to be a nice cheap upgrade from my e4300. I am running a home-built single-stage phase change cooling rig. Evaporator temperature is running -44C under full CPU load. I have no idea what the core temp is. The CPU temp monitoring on my Abit IP35-E mobo has never worked. The temps are stuck at 11C.
UPDATE: I just killed my new E7200. All I did was move it to another room. Dont know if it was the overclock or not but it had been running peachy. Im thinking of RMA'n the proc on Monday, but I dont know how long that will take.
what do you mean you moved it to another room ? the CPU or the whole pc ? never heard of killing a CPU with transporting a PC lately... with the Athlon XP the core die was too fragile and heavy coolers could damage it... but not these Intels...
Cor blimey Rockhammer! 4.4GHz with just 1.05V!!! :eek:
That's the VID , look closely... not Vcore
Ha! I wish. vCore is set to 1.5 in the BIOS. It comes in a bit lower than that in actuality due to significant voltage sag on the Abit mobo.Quote:
Originally Posted by twwen2
I had a LAN at my house in my living room so i moved my whole pc out there so I could game in the same room with everyone else. Then I went to move it back to my desk got all my cords hooked up and no dice. Right now Im waiting on one of my so called friends let me put my proc in their rigs, but it seems when I need help no one wants to help or makes excuses. Sorry for the small rant.
Update my proc really is dead I got to test it out in another computer.
@carajean,
what was your settings before it died? man, thats bad news.
sweet info guys i was really wondering how these clocked
someone throw one of these on the biostar Tforce I45 and see how freakin insane she'll go...
I've had mine up to 4.6 GHz.
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=362082
Gigabyte EP35C-DS3R....lol. Now i'm on a DFI LP UT P35-T2R with the E7200. Too hot to run anything over 3.8 GHz :(
3.8ghz@1.36vQuote:
Originally Posted by NormanABates
thanks. im hoping its just an isolated case to die on such a low vcore.
CPU VTT and PLL Carajean ? Cooler used ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
VTT=1.3v
Pll= left alone/default
Ram= 2.1v
NB=1.4v
Cooler= Freezer pro, Never got over 55c on full OCCT,Orthos load. So I thought I was in the clear.
Im really attributing this fry to a fluke of nature more than overclocking. I really didnt raise those voltages too much to me anyways.
I need a better cooler this time around. Prefer one without push pins technology. Please suggest thanks
Xigmatek HDT-S1283 (or OCZ Vendetta 2) with a bolt-thru kit.Quote:
Originally Posted by carajean
Reporting on my experience with E7200,
E7200 @ 3.6 Ghz, 1.3v set in BIOS (actual ~1.27v in CPU-Z)
Asus P5k Deluxe Wifi-AP
G.Skill 2x2GB DDR2-1000
from some feedback i saw on some other forums, some users said the bolt-thru kit cant be used on the OCZ V2, unless you want to bend the fins...!
Ah right! Oops :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
I have a Q808A696 batch and it runs 4Ghz at 1.3v stable and benches up to 4.5Ghz with 1.5v
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=389266
Why don't you try to find max FSB, I only see 400-500 here, lowest with 8x multi.
What's the difference?Quote:
That's the VID , look closely... not Vcore
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i11/raprap999/1-2.jpg
here's mine hehehe
not very idea with that voltage with that speed
y???Quote:
Originally Posted by FattyTW
i'm using Gigabyte ep45-DS3R i have difficulty on overclockin it :(
niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
what videocards are you running to hit 20k?
For anyone thats upgraded from an E6600 or similar, do these E7200's run any hotter?
My E6600 @ default voltage @ 3.0ghz idled at 30C, load of 40C
With this E7200 its idle of 32C and load of 42C.
This is with Real Temp, latest ver.
Im on water with a D-Tek Fuzion. Also I live in florida, ambient is pretty high, 82F or so.
Has anyone experienced a FSB wall at around 370 fsb? What settings other than NB voltage, CPU voltage, memory voltage, and FSB strap can help get past this? My e7200 will run 3.467 (9.5x365) ghz, but I would like to drop the multiplier and run it at 400 fsb.
I am using the following hardware:
ASUS P5Q Pro
E7200
2x1GB OCZ Platinum Rev. 2 DDR800
What voltages (cpu,NB) were you trying? ...
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL
5-5-5-15
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Features: all Disabled
I have tried up to 1.4 on both the cpu and NB. The NB is passively cooled and I am using air cooling with a Ultra 120 on the cpu so I don't want to go much higher on either of those. I have used the same settings you are listing below, and have also tried using a FSB strap of 400 as opposed to auto. I guess it's possible I just got a poor chip for overclocking. I have heard that some e7200s take around 1.45v to hit 4ghz and higher. For gaming with a single HD4850 going higher than 9.5x333 (3.16 ghz) probably doesn't give much a of a performance increase anyways, and I can run that speed at stock voltage.
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL
5-5-5-15
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Features: all Disabled
I had hit a wall at 370FSB and higher on the evga 750i FTW motherboard. This issue was resolved later on with a BIOS upgrade.
Also I got a Q81 batch and I need 1.488V to hit 4.11ghz. Seems like a bad overclocker :(
guys i have a problem on stabling my e7200 on a gigabyte ep45-DS3R
i turn off all C1E EIST every kind of calibration that the board have..
hmmm
i must ko 1.45v to stable a e7200 on 3.6ghz :(
From what I have read on some other boards, and from a few posts here, some of the e7200s take relatively high voltages (1.45+) to hit the 3.6 - 4.0+ ghz range. I guess that is what you get when you buy a budget processor. It's all the luck of the draw.
It's true, in my case though. I can OC my E7200 to 3.0Ghz with just AUTO value of the voltage(or 1.28v in BIOS actually) with my budget mobo Asus P5K-SE very easy. In my case a 365 fsb is the highest value with nominal voltage used, 370 fsb and up-the vcore needed is i think is too high.Quote:
Originally Posted by blizzisu
First factor i had in mind could be my mobo, it had an insane vdroop:down:, i think i'm going to mod it. The second factor could be my E7200, maybe i've got a bad clocking chip here, btw the FPO/batch is #: Q815A472.
Right now i'm running at 3.467Ghz at 1.37v in BIOS, Cpu-Z and OCCT both reads the voltage at 1.344. My mobo vdroops during OCCT tests, the voltage falls down to a mere 1.3v only-vdroops are really annoying:shakes:. I will chase 3.6Ghz or higher once i'm done vdroop modding my mobo.
btw is it my mobo or proc??
proc batch Q815A539
??? :(
^ I'm afraid the problem is your proc., i've seen lot of bad clocker E7200 chips around here, which sadly, includes mine too:shrug:. You've got yourself a good mobo, its already a P45:up:.
^ yep its p45 but it has a large vdrop that gaves me headache
imagine 1.45v on bios in windows 1.37v? or 1.408v?
For the record on the 'official' E7200 thread:
Cpu Frequency with this setup is 3.85GHz, SuperPI 1M times around 13.4 sec - I think very low 13's or even lower is possible once I get the memory fully sorted out. The chip is stable to about 3.944 with same voltage shown below on both P5K and P5Q-E.
M0 stepping E7200 retail boxed, air cooled w/TRUE120 & 1500rpm, 1.0875VID Scythe/Sony FDB SFF21F 120mm
P5Q-E rev. 1.01G on bios 1103
RAM used: OCZ Reaper PC2-9200/DDR1150 2x1GB
No fans over 900rpm in case to keep things nice and quiet
BIOS JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: 7.0
FSB Frequency: 550
PCI-E Frequency: 100
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO (333 strap)
DRAM Frequency: 1000 (BIOS says DDR2-1102)
CPU Voltage: 1.33750 - showing 1.30 to1.31v loaded in XP64
Hi,
Do you guys think that 1.408 on cpu-z is too much for this cpu? (I setted around 1.45 V at bios)
It looks stable at 3.7 GHz with this voltage, and only reaches 52ēC (core) @ 100% load...
hmmm guys i read lot of forums they said that the 45nmn limited voltage is 1.45v...is in the bios that to go far from 1.45v or in windows?? i wanna make think clear out thinks :(
Care to rephrase?
If you mean to ask whether 1.45v is a BIOS limit, it isn't. Many people are going with Intel's spec and trying to keep around 1.4v or under for 24/7 use. If you're asking whether there's a difference between BIOS vcore values and what the vcore is in Windows, yes there's a difference. What you set isn't what the chip actually gets.
I got an Q815A300 and it looks like I'm topping out at 405×9.5 :( Board is an Asus P5E-VM HDMI, might try dropping the 0.5 and pushing the FSB higher. Looks like a lot of the better overclockers were <Q810 ish.
^ ic tnx alot i don't want to push my proc anymore i'm fine w/ 3.4ghz 1.38v@bios
Think bios is correct you cannot run 550FSB and 1000mhz it has to be at least 1:1 divider on ya mobo...Quote:
Originally Posted by thehinge1
Nice results. have you tried 7.5x533? for 4.0ghz?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shrekogre
While the E7200 might be binned lower than E8000's, I'd be surprised if all these bad o/c's were due to crummy cpu's.
I find the most common roadblock to o/c, is the ram...or trying to run the ram at too tight of timings (4-4-4) with too low of voltage. Even if the ram is rated 4-4-4, I would set timings to 5-6-6-18 with 2.1v while testing. This should remove the ram as a o/c'ing roadblock, then you can concentrate on increasing the FSB and cpu voltage.
According to Intel documentation, the maximum recommended voltage for the Wolfdales is 1.3625v. Any voltage above that can lead to cpu degradation and shortened life. The maximum recommended FSB Termination (VTT) is 1.115v. 1.2v is overvolted, although some motherboards only go that low.
Most of the bios settings have little effect on successful o/c's to 4.0GHz or even 4.2GHz...other than, cpu voltage: 1.3625v max; ram voltage: 2.2v max (but I run mine at 2.0v and would not go above 2.1v); and depending on your m/b, the Northbridge voltage could be increased to 1.4v or even 1.55v for stability. You could also kick up the Southbridge voltage a notch if it suits your fancy. I enable Load Line Calibration (cpu voltage damper) to reduce vdrop and use the NB .61x ratio. I would keep most the remaining bios options in their default settings.
One trick to speed up your computer is to enable "Transaction Booster, or Performance Level", which at the "2" setting improves my memory latency by 30% (Performance Level 6 rather than the stock 12). Also changing to the 400MHz bootstrap improves my ram latency nearly 5% over 333 bootstrap at the same frequency.
Been running prime stable for an hour at 8.0x400(3.2ghz) using 1.392v after vdroop. Looks like uppping the voltage allowed me to get past the FSB wall of 370. My temps are at 82c though so i'm going to try dropping the vcore voltage down.
Currently testing for Prime stable at 9x400(3.6ghz) w/ a 1.368 vcore after vdroop. Temps w/ my original model Ultra 120 w/ a low db fan are maxing out at 78c.
Doh! I meant to type "1100".... my mobo adds 2MHZ no matter where you set it, then the same extra 2MHz disappears in windoze, cpu-z, etc.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
can't get it stable on 500fsb. don't know if due to x48 or cpuQuote:
Originally Posted by blizzisu
I like to keep my temps and voltage low, as this computer needs to last me at least 2-3 years so I am currently trying to find my max clock using 1.248 vcore after vdroop. Testing 8x400=3.2 ghz now.Quote:
Originally Posted by blizzisu
aw i'm still stuck at 3.4ghz :(
Purchased a E7200 for friend.
Q743B016
VID: ???
What I do know is that it clocks for crap.
This thing would not BUDGE over 3040 Mhz stable for ORTHOS on 1.3V load. Kept returning a rounding error. Temps were down, but this thing did NOT want to clock at all.
Pumping volts into it didn't help much either :/
What motherboard are you using? With my P5Q Pro I was able to set everything to Auto and run at 9.5x333=3.17ghz. Have you tried that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hazaro
Currently I'm running it at 366x9.5=3.477ghz. I was able to do this with all auto settings as well. CPU-Z shows core voltage of 1.256v after vdroop when running full auto.
Wow, that sucks.....
Just purchased E7200 (Q744B016) SLAPC. And this is my quick test validation...i don't know stable or not. Bump the vcore to 1.4 :
Validation
From what I've seen, many chips with B in the middle of the batch number don't seem to be clocking too well.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4n70n
I can boot into windows just fine at 4.0 ghz as well. It is when I try to validate that it's Prime stable for more than an hour that I start getting rounding errors.
Got mine E7200 today, too bad I have to wait at least a week for the PSU to complete my budget rig... Remember'd about the whole batch gambling-thing only when I already held the CPU in my hands. :ROTF: Got a Q814, afaik, that should be pretty ok, right? :confused:
I made a seperate post but I guess I will add my results here for when people dig.
Vid 1.12 - Batch was SLAVN I "think". I was too excited to write it down but I tried to remember it.
3.8ghz @ 1.232, stock FSB, stock chipset, stock everything else. Posts past 4.0ghz but SATA craps out completely (think the PCIE lock on the board doesnt work right).
I just wanted to update that I finally got over my 'nothing more than 1.40vcore' knicker-twist and am over halfway thru a 1hr OCCT run at 1.4125 in bios, 1.34 under load with LLC disabled temps seem reasonable so hopefully it will make it thru more tests. Without tuning the ram to the new frequency it did 12.734 1M superpi with AV & everything else running on XP64.
I settled on a 1.30625vcore/LLC off/1.23v loaded 24/7 setup with 500fsb/DDR1200 at 7.5 multi at 3.750G.
I'm glad I did not keep that C0 stepping E8400, but an E0 is looking good for 4.5GHz+ so far:)
i can't not go to 3.6ghz on low voltage :(
Alright, story time.
I went over to a friends house whose rig I directed (I told him what to buy) and another friend put it together. Well, when you want something done right, do it yourself. I rearranged the cables to improve air flow (what little there was). It's in a CoolerMaster RC690. The front fan wasn't plugged in, so no air flowing there. All the PSU cables were just shoved in front of it, in a big bunch. I ran them around the back. But the best part of all:
I attempted to overclock it, because that's what you do, right? Well, I ran coretemp and it came up with some crazy number like 102 degrees celcius!?!?! I was like "No, that can't be right." Well, it was. I opened up the case again and looked at the stock Intel Heatsink that was on and only one of the pins was even in. IT WAS JUST HANGING THERE!!!! So, I pushed all the pins back in and set everything back up and checked coretemp and it was around 60 degrees, a lot better. I didn't have time to reseat it plus I didn't have any thermal paste.
Anyway, he had been playing games like this and it never crashed once. That's pretty impressive. Apparently he played The Witcher for hours and it never skipped or stalled, anything. I was watching him playing it when I first got there and I can witness to that. It's crazy, I couldn't believe the toughness of this chip.
One reason these chips dont clock as well is because they aren't soldered to the IHS, resulting in worse contact. Mine was running linpack at 88 degrees, 3.6 ghz, 1.35v
I have taken off the IHS and im just prepping to install it again, with watercooling... hopefully this will see me get much better temps + overclocks
Ok quick update on my situation after my E7200 died.
I went out and got a tuniq tower 120 yesterday slapped it in my system. Instantly went to 3.8ghz pretty stable. Im running orthos now as I type this. Here is the KICKER though, my temps at full load are getting to a max of 67 degrees. I know that temp is a little high for this particular cooler. What should I do?? I have the fan facing the rear of the case also.
hi there met what is ur voltage settings??Quote:
Originally Posted by carajean
because i try to reach at 3.6ghz
it need 1.45vcore and 1.35v nb core and the temps are good idle is 30-34 load 50-55 degrees my board is Gigacrap aw it's gigabyte ep45-ds3r
tnx bro
one thing why did ur e7200 died? :)
I can't wait to get my 7200 in! I hope I get a good one.
:D hehehe i hope u get one..becuase my 7200 was so bad :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by eternaljammer
1.34 voltage reading from cpu z
1.35 in bios
1.4-1.45 NB voltage
My proc died by a fluke accident if you read back a couple pages its all discussed there. ( sorry just got home from work kinda lazy right now)
Please let us know how it goes! I have an E7200 that does 400x9,5 @ around 1,35v reaching 80C fully loaded on watercooling, been thinking of decapitating it too:DQuote:
Originally Posted by oohms