First test results have been POSTED!!!!
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http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...68#post2968268
:D :D :D
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First test results have been POSTED!!!!
Linkage:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...68#post2968268
:D :D :D
woo hoo!!!!! :clap::clap::clap:
Thanks smee!!! I was just joking with ya. Hell I know this stuff takes time, and effort.
No problem m8! It's fun, but yes it does take a lot of time and work..... for those tests and a couple that haven't been released yet (:rolleyes:) it took me about 4 hours.... remounts and switching blocks take a while, plus air bubbles are a pain....Quote:
Originally Posted by djnoob
So yea, a lot of work, but I really do enjoy it!!! :D
Well guys, as far as the stock block tests, the V2 holds about 4-5c better temps.
This is looking good! :)
Why did your review got locked...will there be another result?Quote:
Originally Posted by smee
i got mine today yay, when i get my test rig set up
it will be tested on a Q6600 on a maximus
D5v, MCR-320, 3x D12SH-12
Arguements over the testing methods I suppose...Quote:
Originally Posted by xtclocker
Now that we know that the V2's base was tweaked as well, that 4-5 degrees may be looking more and more credible as we speak...
still, its waaaay too early to rely on just one tester...but it all has to start from the first small step...science is about accumilating data, and finding the most consistant group...
great work smee :up:
yes thats exactly what the admin said in closing post :rolleyes: :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Navanod
Have you ordered one yet ? Hope to see a review from you soon :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Navanod
... preferably comparing it with a V1 and an EK Supreme :D
The bickering referred too actually was carried over from several other threads in the whole mixed metal loops controversy.Quote:
Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss
I'm STILL waiting for my EK Supreme to arrive... :(Quote:
Originally Posted by elpibe10
Don't think I'll be in time to produce anything meaningful if I had to wait for a V2 as my testing methods would be no better than Smee's...quick and dirty comparisons at best
How bout lending you my V1 and Supreme (when it gets here next week) and you can pit them against a V2 (which I'm sure you're getting :p:)
I have the V1, Supreme and MC-TDX. Still pondering whether it is worthwhile to get a V2 :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Navanod
Hey all,
Yea yesterday was a mess and I was really mad and some of the people who couldn't keep there trap shut and leave me alone.
I got the thread locked, I'll be posting better results soon in a new thread, but the results will be taken differently.
I'll be doing 5 mounts for each test, messuring the Ambient and Water temp with some thermal probe's that I have, and I will get load temps by using either CPU burn or Everest for a 10 minute warm up and then a 30 minute recorded load test (I'll have Coretemp log all the temps).
The CPU (QX6700 ES) will be at stock speeds (2.66Ghz) with 1.4v, and the cooling setup will be the same:
MCR320 w/6 50CFM fans, Laing D5, MCRES, Fuzion V2.
The coolant is made up of straight Distilled water with a couple drops of PT Nuke.
I'll be doing this over this coming weekend, so it'll be a little while before the results come in.
But as you can see, there are plenty of others here with Fuzion V2's that are going to be testing also.
This is a good thing of course, because the more results we have, the better idea we have of how well the block will perform.
Again, stay tuned!! :D
Looking forward to your and others results on this. Don't let the comments get you down, the suggestions to improve your testing are good they could have been delivered in a more civil way though. I have been waiting on getting the blocks for my new build and I am glad between the dtek v1 nozzles, the ek supreme and now the dtek v2 and XSPC there are alot of nice choices as soon as a little more data comes in. I am leaning toward one of the dteks or maybe the supreme, the XSPC looks nice but i don't like the idea of the pressure holding down the block to be all one acrylic, seems more likely to have problems not being made of metal. Along with cpu blocks alot of new gpu blocks for the gx2 so many choices. Good luck with the testing.Quote:
Originally Posted by smee
save the nuke, your probably going to drain the loop when your doneQuote:
Originally Posted by smee
anyways right :yepp:
good luck, im not sure if i got the time to do a full test but ill try,
if anything ill take some more pretty pictures :rolleyes:
the thermalright's backplate is actually subtlely different from the dtek backplate - i dont have any pictures but i will try to describe it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gen
the dtek nut fittings on the 4 mounting points dont have blank guides jetting out from the nut itself. the thermalright does. In my recent mounting trials with the TRUE, i found that these lip guides could potentially prohibit the tension required to maintain even pressure on the IHS. also, the dtek has a double-sided sticky foam thing so the backplate sticks to the motherboard whereas the thermalright backplate has your run-of-the-mill one-sided sticky foam things.
as previously mentioned, the scythe backplate does indeed have a TON of stickyness on its backplate, and does indeed take a LOT to get off a motherboard, especially the first time.
smee sorry to throw a wrench in your works.
But when you tested the fusion how long was the old one mounted? You can compare a new mount with an old mount. They both need to be new mounts. :T
Anyhow i see it got locked. :\ Smee, if you lost on why some of the concepts, pm me.
I may have simplar explainations to them, but scott is correct, he says it a bit straight and to the point, but he's correct. :T
Scott = nikhsub1
He's also one of the few that i take as almost given, unless i tested something first hand and saw something wierd. :T
And yeah he talks like that to me too sometimes, oh wellz, i thank him for being straight with me and saving me time on failed projects. :T
No prob. They were both brand new mounts. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by NaeKuh
Yea I've been talking to Martin and Scott, and i've learned a lot of how testing should really be, and this time I'm going to do it right....Quote:
Anyhow i see it got locked. :\ Smee, if you lost on why some of the concepts, pm me.
I may have simplar explainations to them, but scott is correct. :T
Scott = nikhsub1
He's also one of the few that i take as almost given, unless i tested something first hand and saw something wierd. :T
First though, I'm going to have to get more thermal paste!!! xD I'm almost out of my brand new tube of MX-2... :rofl: And I only did 7 mounts.....
I'll send you a pm though. :up:
mmmmm....Quote:
Originally Posted by smee
The thing is this, i cant also understand how just a simple top change would pull that much performance.
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1-2C okey, 2-3C going to wishing. 3-4C asking for too much. 4-5C if this is true i'll buy one tomorrow. :P
But basically for that kind of performance, you would need accelerators on accelerators, if you get my drift. :T
Read THIS thread Martin posted. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by NaeKuh
4-5c is a big difference, and I agree with you.
I can't wait to re-test and see if I get the same difference though.... :D
PM sent! :up:
yeah which is what i said on my 1st post. LOL...Quote:
Originally Posted by smee
It looks like they cleaned up the acceleators, so slight better numbers yes, at the cost of restriction tho. :T :up:
PM answered. You need a coolant monitor. Take the delta from coolant to core.
Post #49
If that much difference is true as well, I'll buy one too :rofl:
Just get the testing right. There is a lot who can post results but only 2-3 I can trust for accurate testing data ;) It take 1-2 weeks to do a proper testing with both old and new blocks.
When you fit the Quad Core plate, do the two holes go over the two cores?
Yea, thats what the plate does, you just need to make sure the orientation fo the plate does match up with the 2 cores
Cool, I know it sounded like a daft question but there were no instructions! It did seem like common sense though.Quote:
Originally Posted by pvtdonuts
Currently testing a QX9770 at 4GHz, it is maxing out at 64 degrees.
Just ordered one of these for my new build. I figure it can't perform any worse than the V1 so might as well take the risk of it performing better.
Im getting mine in a couple of week. Replacing my existing Apogee GT block so Im hoping for a big performace boost!
Just got mine. Is anyone using those new Fat Boy Barbs on one? Any issues?
I will be able to tell you of any issues next week, order arrives for me next Thursday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lloyd
I also may be getting some Fat Boys this week, but you should have no problem putting them on. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by skinnee
Somebody tested the quadcore plate ?
http://www.bit-tech.net/modding/2008...2-waterblock/1
A slightly more noob-ish review than martins, but still, an aswesome block.
Got mine ordered from Petratechshop.com and should be here the 20th!!! Yippie!!! I can finally ditch my Aquacomputer Cuplex XT
Ugh, as of the past week and a half, the weather has been going crazy...
80f -100 degree's throughout the week and I cannot do testing like this.
I'm going to have to wait a bit, maybe do it at night time when the weather is mellow.
But with the ambient changing and all, it's impossible to do block comparisons.
thats what the ACs for :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by smee
but we gots no AC :(Quote:
Originally Posted by evil-98
It sucks.....
that does suck. dont worry i feel you i have a few 115 CFM mounted on top of my loft to cool me down :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by smee
Haha nice!Quote:
Originally Posted by evil-98
Aren't they uh, loud though???
Bah! Ta' heck with martin... I need a water block! lolQuote:
Originally Posted by disruptfam
Off-Center Rotary Adapter will solve this problem...Quote:
Originally Posted by bugkalot
Anybody using/tried the Universal mount with the V2??
Don't really want to take my 'board out of the case again at the moment.
Order arrived...no issues with FatBoy fittings (1/2"), just a little less clearance between them versus the stock fittings. I am using 3/4" OD, thats the only reason I really noticed the difference with the FB fittings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lloyd
Can you bow the V2?
Yes you can, just put a bigger o-ring inside it and it'll bow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Helfarch
I'll be testing it bowed too. :D
i dont want to dig through 10 pages of this thread, but this block comes with mounting plate, back plate, and the pro mount springs right? i just need to make sure before i buy it
Yes sir!Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteFireDragon
Comes with everything you need and more. :up:
Using a good straight edge, I found the block stock when completely tightened down already has a very slight bow. I put a bigger diameter o-ring from an EK barb which bowed it a little more, but I didn't seen any noteworthy gain doing that on a lapped processor, but it may be helpful on a stock IHS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Helfarch
The bigger EK o-ring is a bit tricky to install. Thicker o-rings won't really stay put (I tried that first), but the same thickness o-ring that's very very slightly larger in ID/OD like the EK o-ring will squeeze into the slot and stay put for the midplate installation.
for a lapped cpu, is it better leave the v2 stock ( not bowed)?
with the Quick-Mount Set (sold separately right?), would it still attach to the back plate that is included? if it does, this still requires the removal of the mobo since the back plate is behind the mobo and there is no way to attach it without holding on it while installation right? and if it doesn't go on the backplate, then that means it would bow the mobo?Quote:
Originally Posted by smee
There is some sticky adhesive tape on the back of the backplate, it'll stick no problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteFireDragon
The quick-mount kit sucks, don't buy it. ;)
And no it will not attach to the backplate as you can't with quick-mounts. :up:
You won't bend the mobo if you don't tighten the screws in to much.
I think so at least from the few mounts I tried on a lapped E6600 The thicker EK o-ring and more bow just introduced more mount variability and the best mounts wern't really any better than the best stock V2 mounts.Quote:
Originally Posted by inonefly
I would think having a quad core would make that even more apparent, but I'll wait to see what other people find out before I'm 100% sure.
It also probably depends a little on the TIM used. I've been testing with the www.tim-consultants.com T-C Grease 0098, it performed much better (almost 3C) better than artic ceramique did in my quick 3 mount test. Bowing should have less benefit on better TIM pastes and may also change with how thick a paste is.
thank you. I'll leave my v2 as it is for now, but with the quad insert :)
Hey guys, Thinking about buying Fuzion V2 to replace my old TDX.
Moving from an opterion 165 to a Q9450, so I really should get a new block instead of a $20 brass top right?
Also, I have not lapped the CPU so I should put in a larger O-ring to bow the block?
Order would be:
1 Fuzion V2
1 Quadcore Nozzel
1 Pro Mounting Kit
or should I skip the mounting dit/ nozzel? I will have 1 or 2 GPU's and MB in the same loop so I don't want to restrict flow too much?
I assuming you are cooling an Intell 775 socket if yes you don't need a pro mounting kit since the V2 comes with an attached Pro mounting system
Yep, Q9450 is the plan.Quote:
Originally Posted by jerrydog
Someone told me to be sure to buy the pro mounting kit for the V2, It did come up as an option at the store when purchasing this block. I guess I was mis informed.
Should I get the quad nozzel or is there too much stuff in my loop for the added restriction? Or should I get it and possibly just port out the holes a little larger?
Sure you should try it...don't think it is as restrictive as you think since the block flows so well you can afford to have the nozzle inside
Unless you are running two GPU's and a small pump
Probably 2 GPU coolers Maze4 and Maze5, maze4 NB block (or might upgrade it to something else I guess im stuck with DD for these) and D5 pump.Quote:
Originally Posted by jerrydog
We'll the D5 is one of the most powerful pumps and the Danger Den Maze family of blocks (although not the best) but they are very unrestrictive so I think you should be ok...I would buy the nozzle and then try both and report back what you found since I am sure many will have the same question...but for the small amount of money you know you won't be able to sleep unless you have it!!!
Yea I'm piecing together a new system, so it will be a while. Memory is on backorder. Plus I need to sell my old stuff to help my debt from the new! I think I'm going to give it a shot, I should still hopefully be able to get something for my old TDX with brass top and nozzel kit.Quote:
Originally Posted by jerrydog
lol i went through the whole thread and didnt find any results on comparing v1 and v2
only links to reviews with dead photobucket pics
how stock fuzion v1 with no any mods will cool core7 comparing with v2?
LOL. i've just done the same thing... 11 pages!!!
From what I remember the v2 performed slightly better than v1.
I think it will be hard finding testing on i7 with v1 versus v2, since v1 got EOL a while before i7's came out.
You are right it is a pain you need to have the mobo free in hand in order to make sure it installed properly. I just finish installing mine yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by situman