yeah apparently a couple of the 512s had nice bundles including black box. hell, when I bought mine at the egg (late first day listed there) the Sapphire 512 was $264 w free shipping.
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yeah apparently a couple of the 512s had nice bundles including black box. hell, when I bought mine at the egg (late first day listed there) the Sapphire 512 was $264 w free shipping.
Bundle in box was only Dungeon Siege and HL2:DM and Lost Coast, which is useless since I have Orange Box.
On the other hand, I got Dark Messiah Might and Magic for free as a bundle, as well as Call of Juarez from the ATI promotion.
I've only got it using the XT clocks so 743/828. No blocks on the 2900s but using the asus maximus with its fusion block and the CPU block.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trike
Not a slow setup mind gets just under 17500 in 3dmark06
Yeah.. looks like I'm limited to 806/999 or so. Tried 833 and it hard-locked during Artifact testing. Next step down would be 820, haven't tried that yet though.
Strangely enough, I think my Voltages might be lower.. default voltages ATI Tool reads are:
VDDC 1.1V
MVDDC 2.2V
MVDDQ 2.102V
Can't seem to get my change on VDDC to 1.15V to stick either. I'm using the HIS 512MB version.
Does anybody have the Powercolor HD 2900 Pro 512 MB and have tried to flash it to xt? I was thinking maybe the pro to xt flash is only flawless because the Saphire 2900 pro actually is shipped with a xt BIOS.
Is it safe to use a xt BIOS from another brand (eg. Saphire)?
If no, can anybody please share a Powercolor HD 2900 XT 512 MB BIOS.
Thanks in advance
Edit: I saw an earlier post linking to a video BIOS collection (including the Powercolor 2900 XT BIOS):
http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/i...ace=&memSize=0
Anyone got video-in working on these? my system just hangs/hard lock when i try to use it :(
hi guys, got today my 2 Sapphire 2900Pro...
first 3DMark06 run @ def. video settings
http://www.muenster.de/~e30pics/Bild...DMark06-01.jpg
sweet, i just ordered another 2900pro. this time a sapphire. I'll be ready for crossfire now. Be curious to see if there's any difference between the sapphire and the HIS.
is that off a x38 chipset with 2x16 lanes or not ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chri$ch
look @ CPU-Z, Asus P5E X38 ;)
Btw Quad @ 3.8Ghz
http://www.muenster.de/~e30pics/Bild...DMark06-01.jpg
ahh yes I missed that thanks
nice scores for stock gpu's
Got my Powercolor HD2900 Pro yesterday, it has the three pipe cooler and currently happy running at XT speeds via Rivatuner.
is riva able to control the fanspeed on these cards ?
ATI Tool can but it seems a bit buggy as of now. Tho my testing limited. Too...many...awesome...games...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rattle
i dont use atitool that thing is buggier than an antfarm
I hear that. I will try the next beta though, this one is already more than a few months old and looks to be the first with any kind of R600 support.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rattle
I hope RivaTuner can control fan speeds. Used Ati Tray Tools for that on my x1950 XT. Nice feature, surely.
ati tray tools was badass compared to atitool on my x1900xt
Absolutely. Never used ATI Tool before this card. No support for these cards in latest ATT beta :(
bummer
Fan control works with Rivatuner
good deal I dont wanna have to mess with atitool. After i learn the card I will just make custom bios.
Could someone please test this, so i know wheter its just my cards problem or is it in all of them (media player classic -> open device -> ATI T200... -> OK)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tappaja
Big time. Reason is Ray Adam's top end card is still an x1800. That guy does an amazing job on ATT with so few resources.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rattle
Glad to hear about Riva Tuner too, thx.
Do you need a flash drive for this?
yep I agree Ray Adam's is the man and tray tools kicks ati tools assQuote:
Originally Posted by WrigleyVillain
Well according to http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/...g/vidcard/34/8Quote:
Originally Posted by merlot_14
"The ATI BIOS collection has a new feature which serves you a bootable floppy image or bootable iso CD image with the BIOS you want on it. Click on "Advanced" when in the BIOS list."
But I'll be damned if I can find what they're referring to. Also, the "ATI BIOS Collection here" link on that page is no good. It should be pointing to bios.techowerup.com/vgabios
Hey guys, I just got my card and I'm having a big problem. My card only shows 509/510MHz in ATITool. I know that's the 2D settings, but isn't ATITool supposed to put it in 3D mode. What's worse is I can't change anything. If I move the slider, once I hit set it goes back to default. Not even 1MHz, up or down!
What do you guys think?
http://www.freepicshost.net/public/4...a229341708.png
ATi Tool doesn't work properly in Vista. Install RivaTuner 2.05 :)
Cat. 7.10 now available
Vista-x64: http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_ca...common-vista64
Vista-x86: http://ati.amd.com/support/common-vista32.html
XP-x64: http://ati.amd.com/support/radeonx-xp64.html
XP-x86: http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_ca...=xp/radeonx-xp
Driver: 8.421
CCC: 0928
I'm trying to flash via Winflash but every time I load the BIOS and click program it gives me this error "Subsytem mistachid". Any help?
i flashed my Cards with ATIFlash v3.41 in Dos without problems.
BIOS?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chri$ch
Thank you, I would not have thought to try it based on the name :)Quote:
Originally Posted by NickS
By the way, is it normal for the card to make weird noises sometimes? Sometimes it sounds like a digital snake hissing. Other times it sounds like "THWIP TWHIP THWIP TWHIP!!" (imagine spiderman shooting his web like 360 times a second).
Testing... I'll start a new thread with results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chri$ch
i did really want one when i first heard about these cards but i think for now ill stick with my GTS 640 and save some money!
I need a Sapphire 2900XT 1GB BIOS. I've seen 2900XT 1GB's from Sapphire before, so I know they exist.
Excellent! Hoping you find one. No one in this thread has flashed a 1GB yet afaik...Quote:
Originally Posted by merlot_14
Do you know how to overcome the error message I get from Winflash? I tried the BIOS from ATI & HIS but I go the mismatch error. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by WrigleyVillain
No I don't but flashing from Windows is risky business anyway I'd do it from DOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by merlot_14
Too much steps. I'm a newbie and doing it any other way is really complicated.Quote:
Originally Posted by WrigleyVillain
Don't flash it via Windows. It's not hard to do it via BIOS if you follow my guide and use a thumb drive.
Anyway, good news. Got my new 2900 Pro. Not DOA, thank god. 6p+8p hooked up, works great. Flashed to XT BIOS, tada. Works, yay! :)
Oh, and this is also a 3 pipe HS/F.
Well I don't have a tumb drive or anything like that. You think my MP3 can do it?Quote:
Originally Posted by NickS
Dude you're savvy enough to know what a video BIOS is you can handle the DOS flash no problem, esp w Nicks guide.Quote:
Originally Posted by merlot_14
Perfect reason to go get one. Not expensive. Once I did I found a bunch of uses for it. Don't mess w your mp3 player.Quote:
Originally Posted by merlot_14
I would do it via a cd but this stupid motherboard only has 1 IDE cable, and it's being used up by my HDD. When I try connecting a cd burner to it, the system doesn't boot. I'm going to FRY's tomorrow to buy a new HDD and perhaps a thumb drive. What size should I get? I was suppose to ship this card out to a friend since I was doing him a favor. Now he'll have to wait even longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by WrigleyVillain
Listen. Take a ride over to Staples or Office Max, hell, even WalMart tomorrow. If you can't drive yet, ask a parent to this weekend. 256MB, 512MB thumb drives will run you $10-$20. Wait till the Sunday ads if necessary. You can sometimes find a 1GB for like $12 AR at Staples or Circuit City.
hi guys :)
thats very nice that you can flash your 2900pro to an xt :)
i have got here 2x 2900xt @ crossfire but i would like to flash them with higher gpu/mem clocks is there somewhere a bios with higher clocks? or a tool to edit them ?
greeds feichti
I think RaBit does it, you can find it at www.mvktech.net. Just flash with XT if you want higher clocks. 743/1650 iirc.
Ya listen to NickS. If you're going to do this at all do it the right way with a thumb drive. They shouldn't even make Windows-based flash utils, IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickS
thanks but the new RaBiT.v2.2.1 i am not able to open the bios files to edit the clocks/mem settingQuote:
Originally Posted by NickS
feichti
Probably doesn't support 2900XT flashing but that doesn't make sense, anyone who benches CF with these cards use the BIOS to set clocks. Hmm, I'll read up a bit on it later.
the problem is that with CCC and AMD GPU Clock Tool v0.7 you are not able to overclock the cards @ CF mode. There is only one way to oc the cards atm and this one is very strangeQuote:
Originally Posted by NickS
http://www.nordichardware.com/Reviews/?skrivelse=516
so the best way is to flash the cards with a higher chip and mem clock because than havnt got to oc in windows
so if someone has got an XT bios with hihger clocks for example 800/950 or 850/1000 i would be glad to get these :)
greeds feichti
Anyone know how to get TF2 off of Steam? It's supposed to be free for 2900 XT owners ;)
Your 2900XT should have came with a black slip thing that says HL2 Black Box on it. Open it up, your key is in it.
I bought a pro...
Then no, it won't come with it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ruisu
Overclocked BIOSes are available only to selected group of people at the moment :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Feichti
Only chance if you kindly ask persons with these BIOSes but they are under NDA and I wouldn't put high hopes on that....
You guys must check out the Unreal Tournament 3 performance review. I think you'll find it quite interesting.
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=464
Have anybody seen these modd ?
http://www.area3d.ch/forum/showthread.php?t=1608
if i could read that.. i might try it out...
man, the 8800's and the 2900xt fair out much nicer than i had thought they would at these high resolution.. finally single cards can get the job done.... still won't stop me from getting crossfire.. lol
Use google translate:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by nosboost300
http://www.google.com/translate_t
I'm 100% stable at 831/996 and only maxing temps at 71c. I played the UT3 demo at maxed settings for about 30 mins and it was smooth as silk. I looked at the temps log and the max was 71c. How high should I try taking this thing?
3dmark06: 12083
See how it does around 850. Infer this is stock cooling? How and how long did you test for stability other than that UT3 session?Quote:
Originally Posted by Psitech
I am going to quit gaming so much and try to find my max OC this weekend. In my limited testing 825 made the fur benchmark lock but I had some voltage settings in my mobo BIOS a bit on the low end at the time so that could have been it.
Hi Guys,
Got my Sapphire HD2900pro last monday! I did not have much time to test it to the limit, but it looks great for sure...
Daily System, un-tweaked, and card unmoded in any aspect:
http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/3...k2k6ps2.th.jpg
I use it 24/7 @850mhz core and 1000mhz ddr, 100% stable... It goes a little bit far, but i still have to test it.
Anyway, great card for the money it cost...
Really nice considering your clocks. Have you flashed your card to XT (using which bios?) or you're using the HIS pro bios? If so could you upload it?:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
Very nice indeed. Does the cooler have 2 or 3 heatpipes? My card should arrive October 20th.Quote:
Originally Posted by transistor
Both of mine have had three. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by alexio
(Sapphire's)
Quote:
Originally Posted by alexio
3 Heatpipes...
Anyway, i think sapphire coud take an effort in making a more appealing bundle, i only got the basics, no games bundled; but hey,i really dont care much at all...
:rofl:
Nice :) How's your second card?Quote:
Originally Posted by NickS
You got the light retail version or the full retail version? Light = 21119-00-10/-20; full = 21119-00-40Quote:
Originally Posted by transistor
Quote:
Originally Posted by alexio
Full i guess... 21119-00-40R
Great :)Quote:
Originally Posted by alexio
Just running XT BIOS with a simple, EZ OC of 800/900 in CCC. Don't need higher, don't want higher.. it's stable, and I don't need to use third party apps.
Agreed but for what I paid for this card I'm only complaining cause some 512s had decent bundles. Have even seen mention of black box included but not directly from any horse's mouth :)Quote:
Originally Posted by transistor
http://www.techmessenger.com/HIS-Unl...070929001.html
http://forum.pcstats.com/showthread.php?t=40660
Wow nice clocks indeed! Review of PowerColor 512 on Neoseeker today ran at 858 w a few issues in X3
And again my 1GB only has two heatpipes fyi
This is on stock cooling. I'll try 850 sometime over the weekend and see how it works. It was completely stable under UT3 and a run of 3dmark06.Quote:
Originally Posted by WrigleyVillain
I was a little mad to find my HIS only came with a voucher for hl-deathmatch and lost coast. But like you said, I'm pleased with what I got for the money. The odd thing was that the "black box" sticker was on my 2900pro box but it was covered with another sticker that said deathmatch and lost coast. :down:Quote:
Originally Posted by WrigleyVillain
i played through doom 3 with 24xAA and 16xAF at 860/999 for about 45 min.. i know its not a stress test... but it sure did good as hell.. these things are mad overclockers...
i just recently installed the 2900xt drivers today.. imma try to do some benchmarking.. my best score on the pro drivers with my fx62 @ 2.84 ghz was 10200... so lets see if i can take that higher with some xt drivers
and as for taking memory over 999, i wouldnt do so unless your going really high, because the timings loosen up when you go to 1000 and up
transistor, try running at 999 and see if your score is higher... i've ran it at 1100 and my score went down...
Hmm the sticker covered huh? So maybe a last minute decision hence that HIS press release saying it includes it. Well I already own HLDM and Lost Coast and the Orange Box so whatever. But the most expensive Pro came w nothing but a driver CD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psitech
Damn 860. Can you loop something for a few hours or overnight?Quote:
Originally Posted by nosboost300
By "2900xt drivers" what do you mean exactly? bios? Catalyst versions?
Ya these are def mad overclockers and the vid card deal of the year at least so far. Wish more ppl in this thread had a 1GB but it's no head-scratcher why they don't...
Damn, I'm loving this card more and more. Just played the Timeshift demo. What a rush. Maximum settable settings, 1680x1050, >60FPS. r0x0r.
ya just let me know what you want me to run.. and i'll do that while i sleep toniteQuote:
Originally Posted by WrigleyVillain
and i woulda bought the 1gb version but it wasnt out when i bought mine.. well it was sold out
and whoops, i meant xt bios
Well whatever you have...tho common sense says something not so stressful i.e. later 3DMarks. I'm gonna try to run opengl fur overnight at 825/950 for starters. Just tried UT3 at those clocks 1920x1200 and now moving on to some ep2 and tf2 :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by nosboost300
Speaking of UT3 it looks and runs great. Never dropped below 60 (which is the fps cap btw) Also great multithreading according to rivatuner cpu monitor
wtf was up w those UT3 screenies at pcper? :shrug:
run opengl... isnt that an api... how do you just have it run?
OpenGL Fur Rendering benchmark
http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/fur/
Or try something like rthdribl
http://www.daionet.gr.jp/~masa/rthdribl/
Or anything 3D. Doesn't matter what ofcourse; stress over time is the point. I just don't feel comfortable leaving something like 3DMark 06 looping overnight.
Hi guys, I just want to share with You my admiration for OC of this card. Very impressive:
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3...4044jq0.th.jpg
okay.. imma be running fur while i go to bed.. 1024x768 windowed with 8xAA.. good night ya'll
and i played the crysis demo.. on full at 1440x900, averaged somewhere around the 40fps mark.. not too shabby.. got a few hickups during intense battles, but that may be due to my only have 1gb of ram
and might i add, that vista performance of crysis.. IS TERRIBLE... i had to run on medium....
Windowed = 2D mode ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by nosboost300
EDIT: Unless 2D/3D clock switching is disabled in the overclocking process.
I just pulled the trigger on a 2900Pro myself. :)
It was a tough decision between it and a GTS 320, but the cheaper price of the 2900 swayed me in the end. Plus the fact that it OCs very well, it seems.
Also, I only game at 1280x1024 max, so I figured the performance hit from AA wouldn't be much of a problem at this resolution.
Should arrive on friday, I can't wait, this X300SE is unbearable! :P
EDIT: I went for the PowerColor 512MB card. Reviews on Ebuyer confirmed that it has the 3-heatpipe cooler. Should be ace. :D
$257 shipped at ewiz again for the weekend folks
Amazing clocks nickless!! :shocked:Quote:
Originally Posted by nickless
How high you could get core on stock voltage and what stock vgpu you have?
Once again awesome card! :up:
Can some of you guys run some non-AA benchmarks at these settings:
742/DDR1650 (stock R600XT specs) vs
825/DDR900 (rumoured stock R670XT specs) *just DDR900 because of 256bit memory bus*
I'd like to see how the new core will perform speculating that the only major optimizations done are in the AA area and the rest of the core is only a simple die shrink.
Thanks in advance :)
Just a few questions here.
I was looking at getting the 1GB version (if it will help me and to give some people some results to look at).
I am running
1440x900 19" LCD WS Monitor
MSI Neo-4 mobo (or something like that, had to buy it as a replacement)
3800+ dual core (socket 939)
big typhoon heatsink (am probably gonna give my 3800+ a bump)
2GB Geil DDR500 Ram
I want to know if with that set up if the 2900pro 1GB card will be overkill or if I can have the 512 version and be perfectly content. I am also purchasing a Corsair 620 when I purchase the new card.
If the 1GB will help me at my resolution then I'll buy it. If not then I won't. But either way I'll share some results with you guys.
Thanks in advance.
PS.
I'll be playing games like ET:QW, UT3, Crysis etc.
The 512 version will be good enough. 1GB version is for high-res gaming like 19X12Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsaroth
1GB won't help @ your resolution, nope, no way. Go for the 512 :)
Thank you guys so much for the quick response. I'm going to order it now then.......
before I do though I had a question about something I read.........
Is this true? If that is true then why would I want to flash my card to get lower memory frequency when I can just overclock the core?Quote:
The 512 MB version has a memory frequency of 1600 while the 1gb version has 1850 and the 512mb version is gddr3 while the 1gb version is gddr4.
The only differences between the 1gb 2900pro and the 1gb 2900xt is that the core frequency of the xt is higher (740) than the pro (600) and that the memory frequency of the pro OEM(1850) is actually higher than the xt OEM(1650). This info is found in the excel document directly from Sapphire’s website.
Is that logical or am I reading into it.
I reached my personal goal!
2900PRO @ 1.35v
http://img.techpowerup.org/071013/13k_2900pro112.jpg
So you are suppose to type this: ATIFLASH.EXE -f -p 0 ATI290~1.BIN , exactly how it is? with spaces and the horizontal slash?
Ownage you need a quad! With your SM2 & SM3 scores, you could easily break 14200 with a 3.8GHz quad. :)
YupQuote:
Originally Posted by merlot_14
What is the performance difference between the PRO and XT bios?
Is it worth to flash this card to XT?
I might be the first one who flashes a 1GB 2900pro. I'm off now, I'll let you know if it works!
what exactly am I suppose to do with this?
"Extract this ZIP file and point the "using system files" location to it.
When the format is complete copy all files from that ZIP file onto the USB stick.
Additionally you need your flashing tools, just copy them onto the USB stick as well."
I extracted the USB image file but now what? My USB drive is already formatted using FAT.