Wow, I got my friend a set of those and a set of the tracers for myself :)
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Wow, I got my friend a set of those and a set of the tracers for myself :)
Do you guys all use active cooling on the chips? I can get it stable @ 600 5-5-5-15 with 2.2v on my p5k Deluxe...
The ballistix are damn hot! Will active cooling (3 x 50mm fan) result in a little wonder for me? :P
It wont hurt thats for sure. I never use me system without cooling for mem.
The ram might be over volting a bit btw ;) Get a dmm and check it out :) But AMAZING :D
Ballistix 8500 for $139 at PGN
http://www.priceguidenetwork.com/com...864aa1065.html
:up:
Seems i got luck, second kit i buy, second kit that does the same :D
DDR2-1200 5-5-5-15 2,1v 100% Memtest stable
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/1554/247gp8.th.jpg
Awesome results BTW caesarean :up: I will try with less vdimm this weekend :)
not 100% stable (memtest windows & only 101% coverage)
test with memtest86 8hours :D
my ballistix PC8500
2.2V 660 MHz 5-6-6-18
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=218639
2.15V 560 MHz 4-4-4-4
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=218648
1.9V 594 MHz 5-6-6-18
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=218652
:D
Finally finished testing all pairs on Asus P5K Deluxe 0311 bios. I can now say all pairs are pre-tested and validated :D
6x pairs of 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 (3 tracer sets + 3 non-tracer sets)
Results are as follows:
Crucial Ballistix non-tracers PC2-8500
- Each pair non-tracers are more consistent in overclocking than the tracers pairs.
- Didn't standardize the 4-4-4-x tests with the non-tracer pairs until later into my testing with 5-5-5-15 and subsequent Ballistix Tracers arriving.
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Pair #1 & #2 & #3 (heatsink spreaders intact)
- 2.20v = 510mhz 4-4-4-9 2-25-2-2-4 (very tight subtimings need more vdimm)
- 2.45v = 551-561mhz 4-4-4-12 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.45v = 600mhz 5-4-4-9 3-25-3-3-6
- 2.10v = 621mhz 5-5-5-15 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.15v = 625mhz 5-5-5-15 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.20v = 630mhz 5-5-5-15 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.25v = 635mhz 5-5-5-15 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.30v = 640mhz 5-5-5-15 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.35v = 645mhz 5-5-5-15 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.475v = 651mhz 5-5-5-15 3-30-3-3-8
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Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC2-8500
- Pair #3 best 4-4-4-12 oc'ing followed by Pair #1 and then #2
- Pair #3 best 5-5-5-15 oc'ing requiring lower vdimm than pair #1 & #2 of Tracers
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Pair #1 (heatsink spreaders intact)
- 2.10v = 500mhz 4-4-4-12 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.20v = 533mhz 4-4-4-12 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.25v = 540mhz 4-4-4-12 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.30v = 550mhz 4-4-4-12 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.35v = 561mhz 4-4-4-12 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.40v = 570mhz 4-4-4-12 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.10v = 621mhz 5-5-5-15 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.15v = 625mhz 5-5-5-15 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.20v = 630mhz 5-5-5-15 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.25v = 635mhz 5-5-5-15 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.30v = 640mhz 5-5-5-15 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.45v = 651mhz 5-5-5-15 3-30-3-3-8
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Pair #2 (naked Micron D9GMH ICs no heatspreaders)
- 2.10v = 500mhz 4-4-4-12 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.25v = 534mhz 4-4-4-12 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.30v = 551mhz 4-4-4-12 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.40v = 561mhz 4-4-4-12 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.45v = 570mhz 4-4-4-12 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.10v = 625mhz 5-5-5-15 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.15v = 630mhz 5-5-5-15 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.20v = 635mhz 5-5-5-15 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.30v = 640mhz 5-5-5-15 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.35v = 645mhz 5-5-5-15 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.45v = 651mhz 5-5-5-15 3-30-3-3-8
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Pair #3 (heatsink spreaders intact)
- 2.10v = 500mhz 4-4-4-12 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.20v = 534mhz 4-4-4-12 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.30v = 551mhz 4-4-4-12 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.35v = 561mhz 4-4-4-12 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.40v = 570mhz 4-4-4-12 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.45v = 576mhz 4-4-4-12 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.10v = 635mhz 5-5-5-15 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.15v = 640mhz 5-5-5-15 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.20v = 645mhz 5-5-5-15 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.30v = 651mhz 5-5-5-15 3-30-3-3-8
- 2.40v = 661mhz 5-5-5-15 3-30-3-3-8
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Seems overall, the Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC2-8500 have a 10-20mhz higher 4-4-4-12 overclock then non-Tracer pairs and slight better upper max 5-5-5-15 or lower vdimm requirements as non-Tracers.
i just got a set of tracer 8500s.
so far 500mhz 4-4-4-10 2.25V (2.26V measured with fluke multimeter).
does not run same speed/timing at 2.15.
p5b deluxe, vdroop modded. 3.6 ghz, 400fsbx9.
going to try for higher speed tonight. maybe 600 4-4-4-10 is possible with 2.4V.
good news!!
2.45v, 400mhz, 3-3-3-8 is orthos stable
0.005V droop measured by multimeter.
will update on 600 mhz.
aiming for 5-5-5-15 600 mhz, lowest volts.
BallistiX PC8500 2.2V 602 MHz 5-5-5-10 SPI32M stable
http://www.enregistrersous.com/image...0721032209.jpg
:up:
Some suicide screens with 2.60 vdimm:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...-152.60v1M.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/Viss1/720val.jpg
the ballistix has died ? (loc.o) ?
and :up:
Orthos, Vdimm 2.04V ( 2.025V bios set ), 0424
Can u share your bios settings?
i cant pull off 600 5-5-5-15 2.25v orthos stable for over 20 minutes. 400 3-3-3-8 is ok at 2.4 orthos stable.
gotta reinstall my os for superpi.
Sweet testing Eva2000 :)
Just a quick test I did a few weeks ago using only 2.0Vdimm set in bios for 600MHz for my PC8500 Tracers :up:
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/508/600mhzhb7.jpg
My kit of these came in the other day. Unfortunately, without a processor I can't test them! It's killing me!
mine seem quite good too :)
560 5-5-5-15 at a lowly 2.0V too
spotted 2x512MB Balistix 8000 the other day- whats the chance of them making similar speeds at similar volts would you reckon ?
thinking of upgrading from 2 to 3 gigs of RAM.
thanks,
Mark.
Me best cas 4 for now, vdimm 2.58:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...900mhzmmst.jpg
wow, 1300 MHz cas 4 thats impressive :up: what is vNB/vMCH to run performance level 5?
I'm tearing my hair out here. Can't get my sticks to run higher than around 560 4-4-4-12 even with 2.45v. Tried a host of different setups like 1:1, 2:3 etc but still no go. Strange thing is @ 2.1v they'll do 620 5-5-5-18. Can anyone help please?
My setup is:
Abit IP35 PRO
Ballistix Tracer PC8500 LED
1200W TT ToughPower
Edit: +2 was set in the bios for ddr voltage.
That is exactly how my second set of 8500's were. A lot are like that. Good CAS 5 sticks, mediocre for CAS 4. Try 5-5-5 around 2.5v and you should be happy. They should do around 640-650.
yup, Gautam is right. most of the D9GMH/D9GKX i have been getting for a while have been running 565ish 4-4-4 at 2.50v or less but 600MHz 5-5-5 comes at 2.10v~2.20v with ease with higher voltage making 650MHz+ a piece of cake...except on the IP35-Pro. cannot for the life of me get any kit of memory over 620MHz.
:up: nice rams but mines :down: :shakes: :shakes:
:banana::banana::banana::banana: monster rams! :eek:
How about this?
4x1024 Balistix PC8500 @ 1200 mhz 2.2v 5-5-5-15 prime stable ( for now 1h ).
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/7...z55522vre7.jpg
crucial 8500 @ 1200 Cas5 Vdimm: 1.95 :D
http://www.pctuner.info/up/results/_...08130823_1.jpg
2.15 645 cas5
http://www.pctuner.info/up/results/_...08165838_3.jpg
2.2 653 cas5
http://www.pctuner.info/up/results/_...21340_2.21.jpg
Hiwa, what board is that?
DS4 P35 8500 Tracer
CAS 5
1.95 600
http://www.pctuner.info/up/results/_...08130823_1.jpg
2.0 600
http://www.pctuner.info/up/results/_...25052_2.00.jpg
2.1 640.2
http://www.pctuner.info/up/results/_...130204_2.1.jpg
2.2 650.3
http://www.pctuner.info/up/results/_...130417_2.2.jpg
2.3 667.9
http://www.pctuner.info/up/results/_...130433_2.3.jpg
2.4 678.8
http://www.pctuner.info/up/results/_...130451_2.4.jpg
2.5 682.9
http://www.pctuner.info/up/results/_...130523_2.5.jpg
got this kit a couple months ago, just got up to testing her...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5.../600mhz16m.jpg
this is as far as i can go on 2.25v, but i can't get it 32m stable:(
any ideas on pushing it further? i don't know how much voltage to feed before getting into a danger level of killing the sticks. they're rated for 2.2v.
Has anyone gotten a set that couldn't even do stock?
I'm sitting at 2.2V 533Mhz CAS5 unstable. I'm seriously considering of going through the hassle of an RMA. I've decided to go a different direction for better bandwidth.
@2.2V, I can do 3-3-3-9 @320Mhz 1T
But it still doesn't seem all that stable. After 2-3 days of folding, I get the the occasional restart. I'm testing at 2T now and seeing if that gives me better results.
Is it possible my motherboard might be the trouble and not the RAM? I ran the 533Mhz with a memory divider so my FSB would stay within very reasonable values (no higher than 340Mhz).
i plan on buying some of this memory and i was wondering is there any performance difference between tracer and regular ballistix or is it just the leds
I forgot which thread it is, but one guy compared 4 kits of ballistix non-tracers and 4 kits of tracers.
His conclusion was that the non tracers are very slightly more overclockable, about 10-20 MHz higher in average, and required slightly less voltage to be stable a cas 4 at a certain fixed frequency, I forgot what frequency it was though. The voltage difference was somewhere around +/- 0.05V.
Overall all are very good performers and the difference between tracers and non-tracer is negligible.
EDIT: I found the post, it is in the previous page of this thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=210
Cool thread what is the MAX Vcore on the Crucial Ballistix PC8500??? I see some guys doing 2.5v I thought 2.3v was the MAX???? I have a eVGA mobo A1 version??? Just wondering...
2.3 is the max for us evga 680i owners because anything past that has been known to fry quickly
Wow nice timing I was just about to reboot to try a test run. Over 2.3 :clap:
I am happy so far with this ram I can get 1225 on it @ 2.25v so I should not complain. I was able to boot into windows with this ram at 825 1:1 ratio at 3-3-3-5 1T 2.2V and at 1:1 930 @ 4-4-4-4 1T 2.2v New SuperPi 1M at 12.250 @ 4.175GHz
Crucial PC8500 @ 533 MHz C4 2.25V
vMCH 1.45v
http://www.enregistrersous.com/image...0922172234.jpg
http://www.enregistrersous.com/image...0929114427.jpg
2.25V réal
_________
Ma new ballistix :)
590 MHz C4 2.30V réal
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=248366
It is not my max, my max for 2.30V (4 5 5 15) is 598 MHz but valid is corrupt :down:
Got mine a couple of days ago.
Got them running at 500mhz 4-4-4-4 2.25v 24/7
Is there anything else besides the mem volt you should think about when clocking memory?
upping the NB voltage might help.i know it did with my P5K dlx.mine were failing orthos after about 9 hours at 1000mhz,4-4-4-9 2.2v and after increasing the vNB to 1.4,they did over 17 hours.
i got another pair of tracers yesterday,same batch as the first one so they should be as good or at least close.however one stick says 16FD3 and the other 16FC3.the box has a "D" on it.any ideas?
And sub timings ;)
I'm looking at getting 4GB of pc8500 Ballistix Tracers for a IP35 Pro. Anyone else have this? If so, does it overclock well? Thanks in advance for any input. :up:
I too have the balistix pc8500, i've ordered my first set like 4-5 weeks ago. Those nicely say d9gmh on it. Today i got my second set ( both pc8500 2x 1024mb ) and it says .... 0735-18f, no d9 or anything. owh yea and it has balistix writen on it ( big letters )...... kind a scary, i've ordered the balistix to be sure to get micron d9gmh's.
ps on my pcb it says " 03201p levin " printed in gold letters on the pcb itself, my other set doesn't have this. What's going on ??
Heys Guys !! Hope someone can help me find out this...
I bought a couple of Cruciall 1066 Ballistix PC8500 5-5-5-15 2,2V
I did this tests runing them at stock voltaje wich is 2,2V on Everest Ultimate
http://s1.subirimagenes.com/imagenes...17485memos.JPG
ASUS P5K DELUXE BIOS 311 (TESTED ALSO WITH 404, almost the same results)
E6600 L709A442
VCORE= 1,5
DRAM STATIC = AUTO
ALL SETTING ARE ON MINIUM VALUES
All things to OC that has to be disabled are disabled
I'm am a bit impressed cause though i got less latencies at 1200, i got better transfer ratios at less speed...I also tested 1200 with 2,3V and NB=1,4, same results...
What can be wrong ?
Regards for all
Sergio
[E6600 / P5K DELUXE / 2X1GB CRUCIAL PC8500 / EVGA 8800GTX / ANTEC 900 / ANTEC TRIO SLI 650W]
Dont worry, it is D9!
Micron just changed the way they labeled their IC's. Clocks just as well (if not better) than older ballistix.
Your other set may use brainpower PCB (which is rare). Most uses levin. Both are EXCELLENT.
Enjoy your ballistix, they will rock your world.
I got my crucial 800s in today. Ill see how they oc on my p5k-e later. The board/processor have been tested to 575mhz at 1:1 with my friend's Crucial anniversary 667.
Ok WTF? Im testing my new ballistix 800s, and they are sitting stable right now at 5-5-4-5-5-30-5-5-5-2T at 600mhz and 2.3v. The only problem is that sandra reports only 8,3gb/s! and a latency of 72ns! What the hell?
This is effing retarded! The Sticks fail at 600mhz 5-5-5-15-10-35-10-10-10 with either 2.2v or 2.3v, at 600mhz 5-5-5-5-5-30-5-5-5 at 2.3v and at 500mhz 4-4-4-8-6-30-8-7-8 at 2.3v at about a minute in Orthos. I am testing at 5-5-5-15 (performance level is at 12) at 500mhz 2.2v right now, 3 mins in and no crashes. Maybe this is a setting somewhere making the sticks fail?
Finally got them stable at 500mhz at 5-5-5-15-9-42-7-7-7 at 2.2v. That is the same as my OCZ set with promos ICs... This is bullcrap...
Meh... that was the max for the promos ICs, my crucials can boot at 1200mhz and are pretty stable, but they crash after just a little bit in orthos. I don;t know what might be causing this, and upping the nb voltage does not help.
Kain
See my post, I can boot at more than 1300 and are stable (more vdimm for 1300 of course) and passed all test orthos 14hs and OCCT, 2xSpi32MB, memtest, etc but when I bench them on everest and Sandra i have the results i posted, everything is fine under 1200 at 451x8, but seems to be a drecrease on performance at 1200 400x9...
By the way i tested:
1128 5-5-4-9 2,2V, 8 hours memtest, OCCT 30min RAM TEST HIGH PRIORITY and passed...
This is at now my 24/7
Any opinion ?
Regards 4 all
Sergio
man i'm itching to have some ballistix
:D my Kingston pc9600 ddr1200 are bad boy. i test with 3,45v at 620 at cas 4-4-4-4 and 533fsb with 3-3-3-8 @ vdimm 3,45v with asus commando and i cant reach over 650mhz fsb :( HAHA
TWR, TRRC, TRRD, etc.....
Does anyone know the specs of this for their Ballistix? I can't find any documentation of this on Crucial's site. I think my motherboard is detecting these incorrectly which is causing me to be unstable.
Yeah! same problem for me , Do you know is it %100 micron d9gmh ? or promos !!!:mad:
My topic is here ;
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=161669
are ballistix tracer's essentially the same ram as the just plain ballistix just with leds and that??? i mean performance wise....
:yepp:
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/6...010043ave3.jpg
DDR1350, CL5-5-5-12 direct boot to window
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/766/spdmz6.jpg
DDR1200, CL5-5-5-12 @ 2.05V
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/958...5vmemterh3.jpg
DDR1300, CL5-5-5-9 @2.55V ortho blend test 30mins
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/116...s30minsia9.jpg
On my Crucial Ballistix pc6400 is "0728-25F" writen, any idea what it means?
Why so many crucial ballistix pc 6400 not stable 4-4-4-12, 1000mhz at 2.2 v ?
because they only shine with cas 5 at high speeds. give them 2.45V or 2.5V and you will see what i mean ;)
Yes, I want to use 24/7
I wouldent reccomend that, i had a set of gskill pc8500 2gbhk. Those where killed in like to weeks with a voltage of only 2.3v and cooled by ocz xtc memory cooler ( 2 fan's ). i'd stay on 2.25v to be sure cause some boards overvolt a little.
VDIMM = 2.7V Freq = 724.5Mhz CL6-5-5-15
http://i.blog.empas.com/freeman2580/...9_1150x990.jpg
http://i.blog.empas.com/freeman2580/...0_1158x995.jpg
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=257061
woah crazy mem clocks there 724mhz 6-5-5-15 at 2.7v :eek:
I was thinking of upgrading my memory to pc8500 from pc6400. These ram are the talk of the town. I was thinking; is there really a performance boost by going from pc6400 to pc8500? My pc6400 run 4-4-4-12 at stock and I have run them as high as 1077Mhz at 5-5-5-15, which is the 'stock' timings for this pc8500 ram running at 1066Mhz. So, it appears to me these are repackaged pc6400 with relaxed timings (5-5-5-15). Is this just a marketing ploy?
ASUS P5B Deluxe
e6600 @ 3.4Ghz 377x9
4x1GB G.Skill 6400 HZ @ 471Mhz (4:5) 4-4-4-12
Sapphire X1950 Pro 512MB
Don't bother, the performance benefit of increasing your RAM speed will be negligible (AT BEST).
And yes, these Ballistix are just repackaged PC2-6400 chips. But they've been tested to run at PC2-8500 speeds.
You see many show SuperPI benchmarks because that's the only program that shows a measurable difference in performance. So if you wanted maybe 2% gain at calculating pi to 1 million digits then go for it.
Otherwise, put that money into something more worthwhile like a graphics card/hard drive/CPU.
As CoW]8(0) already said.
If you use them only at standard speeds you won't see or feel any difference,
only in Benchmarks like SuperPi oder Aquamark3 Memoryperformance makes a quite big diffrence.
The BallistiX 8500 seem to have the best selected Micron Chips,
cause they often are highly overclockable and reach better clocks and timings than any other DIMMs.
Upgrading from 6400 to 8500 is only useful for benching.
4v or 2.64v?
These are my results with 6400 Ballistix:
Except the 1280Mhz 1M run(2.3V),all the rest were done at 2.2V DMM.I didn't know how to adjust the performance level when i was clocking with 4 4 4 4,so i got only 960 (4 4 4 4 ,2,25V).I'll try again,but the best deal for me is the 1066,cause i can keep my E4300@3200mhz.Look at he performance level at 1280,wich is lower than the cas,so i think there's more to be juiced out of them yet.
I found a really good deal on the Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 DDR2 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-1066 CL5-5-5-15 240PIN DIMM Dual Channel Memory Kit in Canada and ordered a set. They were only $84.99 Canadian after mail in rebate. Is it all right to post a link to the sight? First post here and don't want to make it my last!!!
Ok, so here are my sweet Crucial Ballistix 8500 tested on Dfi Infinity P965-S with an E6600 CPU, goal - Spi 1M stable
2.10v
3-3-3-9 ..................................... 407Mhz - DDR2 814
4-4-4-12 ................................... 541Mhz - DDR2 1082
5-5-5-12 ................................... 604Mhz - DDR2 1208
2.30v
3-3-3-9 ..................................... 435Mhz - DDR2 870
4-4-4-12 ................................... 566Mhz - DDR2 1132
5-5-5-12 ................................... 607Mhz - DDR2 1214
2.40v
3-3-3-3 ................................... 458 Mhz - DDR2 916
4-4-3-4 ................................... 500 Mhz - DDR2 1000
4-4-4-4 ................................... 600 Mhz - DDR2 1200
While it is obvious that I am limited at around 1200 due to the motherboard, good latencies at low volts are my favourite on this board, and this kit seems to be very happy with that :D
Hope that is ok with the pictures stored elsewhere, I have too many of them.
Hi everybody.
I am new here and a rookie so sorry for my bad english.
I have a same kit and they can do 1300ddr2 dc with 2.55 vdimm 1m pi stable.One of them can reach 1400mhz with 2.55 cas 5-6-6-18.
I got PC2 8500 on ip35E and E6750
I dont want to OC the CPU just mem looking to get, so should i lower the CPU multi then raise Bus Speed ?
Or in order to get a 1:1 ratio, do i have to set the bios mem ratio below 1:1, lower the CPU multi then raise the FSB ?
Or in this case a 1:1 ratio doesnt matter.
I am a noob.
p/u 4 sticks of the PC2-8500 (sans bling), so easy to work with
I got a pretty new Batch it does 1167mhz 5-5-4-9, @ 2.05v memtest/prime stable 13h / 19 h respectively. these ram are top notch:up: