**Official ABIT IP-35 Pro Review/Overclock/Guide Thread**

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Originally Posted by ThorLite

Using the same v18 beta from rebelhaven this is the best mine old C0 8400 under SS can do.It can run 24/7 rock solid at 500MHz give more vtt to cpu...

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I was under the impression 45nm didn't like high VTT on P35? I mean stock is 1.1v for this board and it doesn't go up more than to like 1.5v or so. Anyway it's the Abit IP35 Pro that's the real prob, it's known to not hit very high FSB compared to other boards, Gigabyte P35 DS4 ran 500 fsb fine at 1.2v VTT and could have run at like 1.35v MCH but to run performance level 7 stable at 500MHz it wanted a bit more juice.

This Abit board has like nearly 0.04vdroop as well... DS4 had like 0.02v max under full load.

Temps aren't an issue, I run openbench and NB have plenty airflow around it. I would so like to ditch this board but then my next upgrade is so coming so close.

Here's what I'm using for my 24/7 with the E8600.
Idle temps 36C BTW - loads app. 52C.
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Don't let the Vcore fool you. It's really 1.39V. This one undervolts like crazy on the Vcore. IP35 PRO tends to undervolt across the board but a lot of builders seem to forget that so they end up with stability problems. If you're using a crummy power supply its even worse. I see it as getting abit of voltage headroom though.
On most of mine I've found that with WOLFDALE 1.1V CPU VTT has always managed to carry me as far as 410-415 FSB and after that I bump it up to 1.2V. Using more than that has never made any significant improvements, at least not for me.
I had one IP35 PRO that was good up til 515 FSB but any of the others got really flaky at around 470 - 475. The one I'm using now craps out at a little past 460. It's got 6000 overclocked hours on it though so I forgive it. I'da black screened anybody else's motherboard long before that!http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/4803/hysterical.gif

Horror, I have suddenly gotten the dreaded bios code 8.7 problem :mad:

I have been running my system for about 2 years now without any problems, and then suddenly the other night when I went to turn on the system, it started displaying the 8.7 code.

I have tried resetting cmos/battery with no luck, as the system goes straight to code 8.7 when powered up, and then cuts the power.

My system consists of the following:

Abit IP35 Pro
Q6600 @ 3,6GHz
4 x 1Gb Crucial PC8500
BFG 8800GTS OC2

Has anyone ever solved a 8.7 problem without getting a new board? I'm thinking to try a new bios chip, which I can pick up on eBay for a reasonable amount.

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Originally Posted by Pascal

Has anyone ever solved a 8.7 problem without getting a new board?

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Sure.
Use a solid power supply.

I appreciate the answer, but this is not a power supply problem. If you read around, plenty of people with code 8.7. have tried changing their power supply without any result.

Also, as I mentioned, I have been running this system for 2 years without any problems, so it seems strange that the power supply should suddenly be the problem, when it is working just fine.

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Originally Posted by Pascal

I appreciate the answer, but this is not a power supply problem. If you read around, plenty of people with code 8.7. have tried changing their power supply without any result.

Also, as I mentioned, I have been running this system for 2 years without any problems, so it seems strange that the power supply should suddenly be the problem, when it is working just fine.

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I don't need to read around.
I've been building IP35 PRO systems longer than anyone here. I bought the first IP35 PRO that NEWEGG ever sold. Along with ACE-A-RUE and Shawn1998 we had the first 3 IP35 PRO systems in operation at ABIT FORUMS.
I've been there more than once and I have fixed that problem a couple of times by doing just that.
Could be a power supply issue.
Could be that the CPU may have developed a problem and is crapping out.
Could even be the board.
How do you know if you don't test it out?
What's the point in trying to help someone when they have already made up their mind what ISN'T the problem?
Plug your ATX 12V 4 pin power connector into the right bank of the 8 pin board connector. See what happens. A lot of times when a multi rail psu (if that is what you have - since I don't see any PSU specs how would I know?) has a failing rail, this procedure will work if the rail supplying +12V to the 4 pin connector is still fully operational. If it works, then you know that there is a power supply issue.
8.7 is CHECK CPU CORE VOLTAGE and 9 times out of 10 that is a direct result of insufficient voltage to the CPU.
What supplies the voltage?
Duh?

Has anyone tried the optical sound output with WIn 7 ?

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Originally Posted by RyanH

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For some reason my processor is running a different multiplier on 2 of my cores then on the other two of my Q9450 quad core. I turned off both EIST and C1E but some programs are showing that they're still enabled, so it seems that I may need to flash my bios. I'm using Bios ID 14 currently which came out before the penryn 45nm cpus were released but I didn't appear to have any compatibility problems with my system until I noticed this difference in the multipliers. Which BIOS would you guys recommend for the Q9450 16,17 or the beta 18? I bought this motherboard and cpu as part of a system so I've never flashed a bios before. I can flash from a cd-rom right? the abit guide only shows how to do it from floppy and the one on this site only shows floppy or USB just making sure. I've read that BIOS 17 and 18 don't work at all with a USB keyboard not even the del key so the only way to get into BIOS is with a PS/2 keyboard for these BIOS? My USB only had limited functioning with 14 BIOS but then I changed the use keyboard via setting from O/S to BIOS in the USB Fuctions and now the USB keyboard has full functioning is it the same with the other BIOS or is it totally broken?

And just double checking the ccmos switch on the back of the motherboard is the same as the ccmos jumper right? just makes it more accessible right? I really don't want to screw this up

One more question, can I just copy and paste the Bios flash files onto a black cd-r then boot from cd-rom? It won't work will it I need to format it for MSDOS right. Can anyone tell me exactly how to do it I'm getting confused I search on how to do it but there seems to be a lot of ways to make an MSDOS startup CD like this el torito I'm reading about but I need a harddrive under 650mb so I can't use that method. I don't have a floppy drive unfortunately

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i am using the #17 bios right now and it show the correct multiplier on all 4 of my cores on my Q9450.

which i just got installed last night. but it is now running on stock clock till i can figure out on how to over clock it.

and as chuck has said this mobo can take mch past 1.5 since i am 1 of those that has done that.

when i ran the E6850 and when i over clock to 4ghz i need to take the mch to 1.52 volts to keep it stable just like the cpu voltage which was 1.62 volt.

but this month i had to up the cpu voltage some to keep it stable from 1.62 to 1.63v for the 4ghz and even my 24/7 OC of 3.81ghz i had to go from 1.5v to 1.51v

which i thought was weird that had to do this even though i did this 1 yr ago to do the same thing, just to keep my over clock stable.

now with this quad core i hear they need less cpu voltage to over clock so now i need to relearn all over again.

so i am wondering if anyone has any tips for me or starters?

the friend that gave it to me said he had it doing 3.6ghz with a cpu volt of 1.38

but it didnt seem to work for me. even after i took all voltages up by 1 setting. i got a blue screen after that. so back to stock clock i went.

any help would be appreciated .

and yes this board sure does rock!!

anybody have a link to the v18 beta bios?

surprised this thread is still going

Anyone has this board working under Windows 7? Any driver or software issue? I appreciate your comments.

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Originally Posted by xchric

Anyone has this board working under Windows 7? Any driver or software issue? I appreciate your comments.

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Working great with Win 7-64, this MB is going on 2 years which is something. I usually upgrade yearly. I notice much more stability under Win 7 than my Win XP. I haven't had a crash since installing it a month ago. I don't know if I had a virus that AVG couldn't remove on my XP or if the MS Security Essentials on Win 7 gives a more stable system.

Only issue is my EMU 0404 soundcard doesn't work right with WIn 7, hopefully they will update their drivers.

With the Quad core I'm running, I'm thinking I may just keep this MB until it dies, I'll wager it will be good enough for most people for years to come.

Also I didn't install any of the Abit software (uguru, driver, etc) I think this may help with the stability. I'm running this Quadcore 9550 at 3.6 ghz. I highly recommend this MB with Win 7-64 4GB ram and one of the quad cores (overclocked). Its amazing how much quicker daily things like encoding audio, video, ripping CD's and surfing the web vs Win XP 32 bit.

yeah i wish abit didnt get out of the mobo biss since this 1 they really did a great job on it! it is still the only mobo i have ever gotten that i have not had to send back with the 1st 30days or do a rma on it yet.

and i had MSI and ASUS in the past and now i finally find a real good mobo and they quit on me !

question#1
and now i would like to go all water on the nb and sb and pwm on it. but i am not sure what block that will fit it.

anyone around here know what they are? that is still here

and i am still wanting to clock this Q9450 up to 3.6ghz some time soon but so far i have not been able to. i have use COBs setting in his 1 post which did not work at all.

thats when i decide to try out 3.2ghz to try for and got it stable at right now. but i want more and then keep it there for 24/7

@glen you didnt install anything off of the disc or any of the newest mobo driver then? even with vista i had to just to get rid of all of the big yellow question marks in device manager or other wise my system was not happy.

and beside i am running raid0 for both xp and vista so i have no choice as well but only for the raid device since they need there drivers.

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Originally Posted by SCAVENGER1

@glen you didnt install anything off of the disc or any of the newest mobo driver then? even with vista i had to just to get rid of all of the big yellow question marks in device manager or other wise my system was not happy.

and beside i am running raid0 for both xp and vista so i have no choice as well but only for the raid device since they need there drivers.

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I installed nothing from Abit or the disc, Win 7-64 is extremely stable. I can't make this 9550 @3.6 ghz crash. I'm using a big copper finned heatsink that I bought several years ago.

The only question mark in device manager is the uguru cpu.

@strange|ife: The Rebels Haven ABIT IP35 Pro Motherboard BIOS Page
http://www.lejabeach.com/ABIT/IP35Pro/

For sale (to a U.S. address only):
Abit IP35-Pro motherboard + 2 Gb Corsair DDR2 - $85.00 + shipping
"Free" add on: choice of Windows Vista Business 32-bit or Vista Ultimate 32-bit (not for resale copies).
The included serial number (never activated) should/may also work for (your copy of) the 64-bit versions of Vista.
Intel socket 775 with ICH9R Raid chipset.
Includes: retail box and I/O plate, driver CD, original USB/Firewire bracket,
unused factory SATA cables, printed instruction manuals.
Has latest bios (v.18beta), which supports E0 stepping CPU's.
Memory: 2x 1 Gb DDR2 PC6400.

is uguru is a no go with win 7 so far ?

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Originally Posted by momomo6789

is uguru is a no go with win 7 so far ?

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I didn't try, doubtful that Abit will update the driver since they are out of the MB business.



Does anyone know where I could buy a spare bios chip ?

Pascal, I think it is as chuck4456 says, very likely a PSU problem.

I've had this IP-35P going for "AC Power On Total Time: 18236 HR(s)", "PC Up Time Total: 15365 HR(s)" and no significant hassles running on an Enermax Infiniti PSU (sig) with a TrippLite SU1000XLa back-up @ usually at least 495MHz. Settings are similar to chuck's, except DDR2 REF is +2% V and VCore is lower @ 1.31.

I think much of the longevity of this board is due to clean, steady power, meaning not only a stable voltages all the time, but voltage with low ripple/noise - very important since excessive ripple can slowly destroy components. And, some of your name-brand PSU's are not always so great in that dept. You need to check reviews that know how to properly define & measure those aspects of PSU design that are equally important, not just if a PSU can hold 12V or 5V or 3V steady within 3%.

Hi there, i'm reading a lot about the Abit having issue with the Q9550. I have one that is never used and i was planning to buy a Q9650 to play with or the Q9550(if i cant find a good deal on the first one) and use it as my main as the Asus i have (in sig) cant resach high FSB.
I would like to have a confirmation that i'm not waisting my time trying to use that Abit (with no future support), im getting back home in 4 days and buying parts at that time.
Thanks for your help.

geisher - I have no experience with Q-cores on this board, so far just E6600 & E8400. Maybe chuck or others can help you.

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Originally Posted by aztec

geisher - I have no experience with Q-cores on this board, so far just E6600 & E8400. Maybe chuck or others can help you.

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Aztec thanks for this quick reply, i will wait on others opinions aswell.

No prob. Others should be popping in any time now. :)

Does anyone know what the current word is on the CPU fan speed issues?

I'm running a Q9550 (E0 stepping) with B18 BIOS. A cold boot into Linux and the CPU fan speed works like normal for weeks and months at a time (increasing speed with load/heat).

However, if I boot into Windows 7 (64-bit RC) the automatic fan speed will stop working at some point (not always immediately). Sometimes it gets stuck at full speed and other times at low speed. I think it depends on what the computer is doing when the BIOS gets knackered. No amount of rebooting or resetting will fix it, only a cold power-off and cut the power main will fix it. I have tried with and without installing uGuru but that seems to make no difference.

I have seen other posts about this issue but no real solutions. Some people say try changing BIOS rev or whatever but even that seems to have mixed results. Besides, I need to run B18 for my E0 CPU as far as I know.

I'm pretty positive this has something to do with Vista/Win7 because everything works normally in Linux (64-bit) and XP (32-bit). Other people complaining of this issue also seem to be running Vista or Win7. I'm not sure if the 64-bit flavor makes a difference.

If I never had to boot to Windows then I would be OK but as it is it's pretty annoying when I want to play some game that only works in Windows and it ends up screwing up my BIOS. Actually, I think it's a bug in the BIOS but obviously we're not going to get fixes from ABIT. My system runs 24/7 so cold boots put a lot of unnecessary extra stress on my system.

^ It's just another reason why Windows blows c*ck. :mad:

I run Vista with mine & I had the same problem. Had to use one of the regular fan headers instead of the CPU fan header & disable the CPU fan header control in order to get it to work. Known bug, and no fix coming, unfortunately. Works fine running this way, though.

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Does anyone know what the current word is on the CPU fan speed issues?

I'm running a Q9550 (E0 stepping) with B18 BIOS. A cold boot into Linux and the CPU fan speed works like normal for weeks and months at a time (increasing speed with load/heat).

However, if I boot into Windows 7 (64-bit RC) the automatic fan speed will stop working at some point (not always immediately). Sometimes it gets stuck at full speed and other times at low speed. I think it depends on what the computer is doing when the BIOS gets knackered. No amount of rebooting or resetting will fix it, only a cold power-off and cut the power main will fix it. I have tried with and without installing uGuru but that seems to make no difference.

I have seen other posts about this issue but no real solutions. Some people say try changing BIOS rev or whatever but even that seems to have mixed results. Besides, I need to run B18 for my E0 CPU as far as I know.

I'm pretty positive this has something to do with Vista/Win7 because everything works normally in Linux (64-bit) and XP (32-bit). Other people complaining of this issue also seem to be running Vista or Win7. I'm not sure if the 64-bit flavor makes a difference.

If I never had to boot to Windows then I would be OK but as it is it's pretty annoying when I want to play some game that only works in Windows and it ends up screwing up my BIOS. Actually, I think it's a bug in the BIOS but obviously we're not going to get fixes from ABIT. My system runs 24/7 so cold boots put a lot of unnecessary extra stress on my system.

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Originally Posted by dstedman

I run Vista with mine & I had the same problem. Had to use one of the regular fan headers instead of the CPU fan header & disable the CPU fan header control in order to get it to work. Known bug, and no fix coming, unfortunately. Works fine running this way, though.

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You're using another header and set it to change speed based on CPU temperature or are you just using a fixed speed?

I'm asking because the issue appears to be that the BIOS temperature reading for the CPU is what gets "stuck" which in turn causes the automatic fan speed control to not work (ie. the BIOS thinks the CPU temperature is always the same). If the CPU temperature is stuck in the BIOS then that won't work on other headers either. That is unless disabling the CPU header somehow makes the CPU temperature not get stuck. If you follow what I mean :)