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I think Im through with testing this CPU - Im well happy with the end result - 490x9 = 4410. Spent the whole day testing the stability with prime and all looks good. Got 490FSB stable by adjusting the NB and CPU clock skew. Could push a touch further but cant be bothered!
Its the Best CPU ive had to date.
CPU 1.40
NB 1.45
VTT 1.48
DDR2 980
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Originally Posted by The Mamal
Any template with your complete settings please :)
Thanks and well done:up:
Thanks mate. I struggled to get over 466 FSB initially - until I changed the GTL settings for the NB. That allowed me to get to 480. I was then found I couldnt prime blend at 490 (system would freeze) until I set the CPU and NB clock skew. Then I found that one core would drop out on prime - until I set the GTL 1 & 3. Now appears totaly stable will prime small fft & blend all day and will be in use at these settings 24/7.Quote:
Originally Posted by bito
Hope this info helps others. :up:
Processor: Q9560
Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 490
CPU Clock Skew: 200
NB Clock Skew: 100
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-980MHz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUto
DRAM Timing Control: Auto (Gskil auto config to 5-5-5-15)
Common Performance Level: 10
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled
PCIE Frequency: 100
CPU Voltage: 1.40(actual)
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.49
DRAM Voltage: 2.10
North Bridge Voltage: 1.45
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10
CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1):-55mv
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3):-55mv
NB GTL Reference: +60mv
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto
CPU Configuration:
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
Qhat you mean? Isn't that a fixed value? It's always a percentage of the VTT.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Mamal
Wow.. thats pretty Damn extreme for overclocking.
Thats my new favorite picture though.
Also with the Q9650 chips. they are all E0 Stepping. and thats the best you can get. the Q9550's are mostly all E0's but not all. I say get the Q9650. and you can get it from many places.. Frys.com, newegg.com has it on sale right now. they all will sale the E0's because thats all this chip comes with. and the VID is just a roll of the dice. but to be honest. I have not seen ONE Q9650 not be able to hit past 4.0 Ghz with a decent Motherboard. all of them can. I have a "supposed to be" :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty eVGA 750i Mobo. everyone says Nvidia boards suck. and I'm stable at 4.205 Ghz with my Q9650. I run 24/7 at 4.0 Ghz with 1.304v and it idles around 33c with my TRUE.
Also get the MCP665.. it's a good pump.
could you post up your bios setting because mines a 1.25 vid and best I could get 4.2 isQuote:
Originally Posted by xguntherc
1.37 vcore
Fsb 1.30
Ram 2.15
All the rest highest green voltage
Glt all 85
What am I missing to get my vcore that low my fsb is 1867mhz
If you could help that would be great thanks David
I said I was able to get to 4.205 Ghz Stable. I can't remember the voltage though. and I currently run 4.000 Ghz at 1.304v and thats fine, but I'm also at 1.4v FSB/VTT so I'd say you should at least try setting that up to 1.35 instead of the 1.3 you say your on. or even go to 1.4
Also have you tried changing the GTLREF's. I see you said they are all on 85. my board was at stock speed core 0,1,2,3... my core 1 was auto'd at 67 only that core. and upon oc to 4.0 Ghz it went to 105 and the rest didn't move. so I went down to 95 on it and took the rest up a notch. I'm sure Nvidia is different from yours. but thats what I did. you should try changing those around. and whatever core fails in Prime, only higher that cores GTL... make sense. until they are all stable. then try lowering vcore again.
P.s. I've still not installed my PCP&C 750w Quad yet. I'm retarded. I'll do it the next 2 days that I have off.. as I've yet to install. any other new part I'd throw in there instantly. but I've been procrastinating. not sure why. lol
edit* I see your on the 780i. so you should have similar GTLREF's. athough mine go from 0-150 if I remember right. and yours start off in negative numbers.. so 85 might be to high. you should go to evga.com and check out there Q9650 thread. the guys in there almost all have 780i's and 790i FTW's and they could really give you GTLREF pointers.. thats important for fine tuning!
well it seems alright to me every thing Is stable my glt go up in 5's and start at 0 I'll get the evga forums 1.37 at 4.2 is not bad is it. Be aware that 1.40 fsb kills 45 CPUs anyways so watch out with that mate
can everyone put down there overclock there best stable. With vid, vcore and fsb. Let's see if the vid makes any diffrence or if these chips are limited to the board. Anything with a max vcore of 1.45 and board. No benchers what you would use 24/7. This should be a great start for all new comers
Think that myth is already busted :) I too play it on the safe side but many many users are running their quads 24/7 way out of voltage spec and yet I have to find one that killed his CPU... all depends more on the mobo/user then solely on the CPU...Quote:
Originally Posted by davidoff619
Yeah i run my Q9550 1.4V 24/7 easily. There is only 0.15 increase from default voltage so its OK for everything. Voltage range for crocodiles!Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Well guys this are my first contribution on this old mobo (as leeghoofd always says :rofl:), not a big result but good for me :D
My special thanks for
Jorl3BR, Leghoofd, Cryptik, WizardOfOz, Flinch, NapalmV5
And for all the ppl who kindly answer the questions always :up:
You're free to advice me on other settings as this is my first encounter with a 45nm...
Temps are read correctly by everest, i have 2 sensors stucked at 39C but on load they do fine
Q9650 L825B513 vid 1,25
Asus P5K deluxe BIOS 0902
2x2GB Mushkin Ascent 1066
JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclocking: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 445
PCI-E Frequency: 105
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
RAS# Pre Time: 5
RAS# ACT Time: 15
TWR: Auto
TRFC: 55
TWTR: Auto
TRRD:Auto
TRTP: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Transaction Booster: Auto
CPU Voltage: 1.3125
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.30
Dram Voltage: 2.05
NB Voltage: 1.4
SB Voltage: 1.05
Clock Over-Charging Voltage: Auto
Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU GTL Voltage Reference: 0.63
NB GTL Voltage Reference: 0.67
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto
prime smallfft's LOAD
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/1...bios131oa1.jpg
IDLE after prime smallfft's sorry i closed prime window
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/4...bios131px9.jpg
AndreSerio,
Very nice Sergio!
Remember that's only the beginning! This chip has a lot of headroom for the future before jumping in a expensive new platform.
Good Job :up:
Thank you mate :up: I will test but not try too much volts...cauz i'm testing slowly as i don't have intermediate values, for ex on vtt i just have from 1,1 / 1,2 /1,3 /1,4...so i think that a little more vcore to balance...NB seems not to help too much, the GTL's yes...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
The Clock Overcharging values i never tested they're on auto and also the skews i don't know how to use them...
Cheers
Sergio
On My DFI CPU voltage is always lower then VTT for stability on this Q9650. So if I use 1.32vcore the Vtt would be somewhere between 1.45-1.50. That is the opposite effect I had with my Q6600.Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
Dunno how it's playing with other boards but if I leave VTT = Vcore or lower I get Prime95 fail.
Nice work Sergio, that is a very respectable speed/vcore. You now have more cpu power than you'll know what to do with initially :p:
CPU and NB clock skews affect the cpu and northbridge respectively. When you increase the FSB, especially above 400, the clock begins to drift, and the clock skew setting allows you to pull it back a little. This can aid stability. With wolfdales, anywhere from 100 - 500ps delay can help, usually 300 - 500 produces the best results. I'm not sure about quads, I've never owned one. With the NB clock skew, it can be used in conjunction with the cpu clock skew, but it requires less adjustment, usually 100 - 300ps works well.
Just play around with them, they may help stabilize the system at higher FSB.
Thanks CryptiK :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
I realized that it passed Prime small FFT's but not more than 30mins of BLEND (i always test first small FFT's then BLEND) so after tweaking i found that the inestability came from this:
Static Read = Enabled
I had to set it Disabled and passed perfect...I'm now testing with Transaction Booster to lower Performance Level
Cheers :up:
Sergio
Yes, i think your NB is at it's limit at that FSB with a quad and 2 x 2GB of ram. It's a pity you have to disable SRC and lose performance, rather than just increase vNB. I think you definitely need a board better suited to 45nm cpu's for oprimal results.
CryptiK: What board would you recommend then, that doesn't limit the FSB for an E0 quad like the P5Q deluxe? I just got myself a nice E0 Q9550 clocker for testing and it can definitely use some good FSB > 470MHz. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
He's referrring to the P5K Dlx ( P35 based mobo) not the P5Q Dlx which handles quads also just fine.... the P5K Dlx needs more ram options in the bios to let her show her true colours... but it's still a damn fine board pushing quads up to 470ish region....
Well i tested
Transaction booster = AUTO / Static Read = Disabled and 266 strap and gave me PL9 with mems at 1113Mhz CL5 on stock volts...
I will test with Transaction booster = 1 or 2 / Static Read = Disabled...
It's as leeg said this board can go up to 470 on fsb and mems need some tweaking
Cheers :up:
Sergio
Thanks Leeghoofd and andressergio. Is there a board proven to run the E0 quad's FSB at 480 ~ 490 stable (or above)?
No this board for sure will reach max 470 for bench...stable i tried to 455x9 for now, but not 490 for sure, i have a friend on a rampage doing that, also the Maximus II can hit that, well many new boards guess also it's a good combination of a good batch, good mems and good hand that will let you go up on fsb...Quote:
Originally Posted by vws
So far i pushed her a bit more and get it stable small/blend on
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/271...bios133ch5.jpg
Cheers
Sergio
got most of the stuff for the new rig, q9650, striker II, corsair 1000w psu, 300 gig wd raptor, evga gtx 280 x2, swiftech gtz block, mcp655b pump, 11 x 5 inch rad, but i'm not sure about a couple of things left, so i'm lookin for a little advice :
what are the quietest 120 fans out there?
silverstone tj10 , cosmos s or cosmos csx case?
and most of all mem, i was looking at these gskull's, overkill ? to much of a gimick ? or are they worth it? :confused:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231218
thanks for your input , can't wait to get it going! :D
SG,
andressergio
Well done, mate! Q9650 rocks :)