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08-28-2006, 04:46 AM
IluvIntel

Quote:

Originally Posted by cold_realms

Yes the F4d DQ6 bios is in english.

Thanks m8, I could not wait for a reply so flashed with it anyway. Now conducting tests with dual SuperPi_1.5 runs.. :D
08-28-2006, 05:32 AM
cold_realms

So what are you aiming for with your OC?
08-28-2006, 08:04 AM
Scarlet Infidel

The german was the extraction forms because you downloaded from a german site...

Ive just put my system together with an e6600 and a DQ6. Im first trying the f4d bios. Its rock stable and ive had no real issues. With the voltage on normal (about 1.4v when loaded) i can dual prime at 3.33ghz all day.

After this is starts getting trickier, i havent started playing with voltages yet and am still getting used to everything.

My final aim is to try and get 3.6 stable out of it (i have decent watercooling so can give it some more vcore).
08-28-2006, 09:25 AM
soki

Another discovery , pressing f9 in bios shows system information. :)
08-28-2006, 09:34 AM
Ramguy

Nothing new with the F9 key :banana:
08-28-2006, 09:38 AM
GOZR

I have the DS3 with F3 Bios but i'm not sure if it reconize my 7950 Gx2 and wich bios would be better than the F3
Thanks
08-28-2006, 09:49 AM
Ramguy

the latest official F4 Bios is OK for you
08-28-2006, 09:55 AM
GOZR

Ha thank you i was starting to have doubts, i'll change with the F4 then.

Thank You E6700+ STT 1000DDR2 OCed, I hope it will not messup teh rest ;)
08-28-2006, 11:09 AM
GAM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IluvIntel

Pjoeloe, how can we tell what 965P chipset stepping we have, especially if I have the DQ6 with its heatsink in the way?

Hey Mate, I notice that Everest (build 693 Beta, at least) shows various chipset revision details.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1156791997
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1156791997
My DQ6 is dead, hence 945pro details above, but I know version .693beta fully supports the 965 chipset and recognized my old DQ6.
08-28-2006, 11:55 AM
Richard Dower

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZachSaw

If you memory ran at 800MHz without any flaws, then it's not your memory if your fixed it at 2:2 in bios. I've not seen anyone with PCI-E set to "AUTO" running at 400FSB yet. It's almost impossible for the cards to clock at that frequency.

Yes but Auto is supposed to set the PCI-E frequency to 100MHz anyways?
08-28-2006, 12:37 PM
ZachSaw

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Dower

Yes but Auto is supposed to set the PCI-E frequency to 100MHz anyways?

Nope, it's left floating with FSB.

ed: even if it is running at 100MHz, there's no harm making sure it is indeed at 100 to eliminate potential problems from the pci-e freq.
08-28-2006, 01:52 PM
ElBobbo

Rubbish - the default is auto, which would mean that running at stock the PCIe bus would be going at 266MHz, that is, 266% of what it's meant to be running at. I've verified that mine is at 'auto' and my FSB is currently 480MHz.
08-28-2006, 02:34 PM
Richard Dower

So Auto is 100MHz?...dunno, can't seem to understand why i can't OC with the DQ6, maybe some new memory will bring me better luck.
08-28-2006, 03:06 PM
IluvIntel

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAM

Hey Mate, I notice that Everest (build 693 Beta, at least) shows various chipset revision details.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1156791997
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1156791997
My DQ6 is dead, hence 945pro details above, but I know version .693beta fully supports the 965 chipset and recognized my old DQ6.

Thats interesting m8, but I'm not one to pay for this version of everest to find that out. That features available in the free version?
08-28-2006, 03:09 PM
IluvIntel

Quote:

Originally Posted by cold_realms

So what are you aiming for with your OC?

As high as possible o/c with E6600 B2 stepping chip on air, but stable for benchies...:D
And probably a little lower than the peak benching o/c for Orthos stable over say 12 hours...;)
08-28-2006, 03:13 PM
IluvIntel

I need to find a program that can reliabe tell me the correct DDR2 timings in Windows. CPUZ v1.36 is not indicating this as I set them in bios vF4d.

Another thing. When I set my o/c around 390mhz FSB with 9x multi and put through the voltage levels I found worked on my MSI 975X conroe board, this board seems to have trouble booting up and just seems to go around in a circle such as on for a couple seconds, then back off for about a second then repeat several times...
I have plenty of power from my 750W psu. Strange behaviour from a motherboard. First kind of behaviour like this I've seen in all the 9xx chipset mobos I ever owned and that about 5 of them over the past 2 years...
08-28-2006, 03:33 PM
GAM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IluvIntel

Thats interesting m8, but I'm not one to pay for this version of everest to find that out. That features available in the free version?

Yep.
Forum topic with details and link: http://www.lavalys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1710
Link for direct download: http://www.lavalys.com/beta/everestu...poemxqs2hc.zip
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1156807954
08-28-2006, 04:13 PM
palum

A new DS3 bios the F5c , i'm in it but didnt notice nothing dif . Who has ?
08-28-2006, 04:44 PM
ZachSaw

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElBobbo

Rubbish - the default is auto, which would mean that running at stock the PCIe bus would be going at 266MHz, that is, 266% of what it's meant to be running at. I've verified that mine is at 'auto' and my FSB is currently 480MHz.

There's a divider depending on the strap. With the 1333FSB strap (auto selected by the gigabyte board), auto should drop it back to 100. It climbs from there.

At 266MHz FSB, it's running at 100. At 200, it's also 100. With the unofficially supported 1333FSB strap, it's also at 100. The bios engineers have the option to restrict "AUTO" to 100 with 400FSB and above, but whether it's really implemented is another thing.

Anyway, could you verify what your PCI-e freq is at 480FSB?

There's no harm to set it at 100MHz first to eliminate it from being a problem. And, nVidia cards have much lower PCI-e freq tolerance.
08-28-2006, 07:11 PM
Lestat

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElBobbo

Rubbish - the default is auto, which would mean that running at stock the PCIe bus would be going at 266MHz, that is, 266% of what it's meant to be running at. I've verified that mine is at 'auto' and my FSB is currently 480MHz.

stupid sh|it like that is what confuses new people.

the fact is that the pci-e freq floats around with teh fsb it gets a little squirrely
no one ever said pci-e freq = fsb
he said it floats around.

the fact is that if left on auto the overclocking gets a little rough.
if locked at 100 or 105 or even 110 things make for better overclocking.

and i still say the F5c blows chunks for overclocking. i went back to F4.

they were improving things and now they are going backwards.
08-28-2006, 07:21 PM
Lestat

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZachSaw

There's a divider depending on the strap. With the 1333FSB strap (auto selected by the gigabyte board), auto should drop it back to 100. It climbs from there.

At 266MHz FSB, it's running at 100. At 200, it's also 100. With the unofficially supported 1333FSB strap, it's also at 100. The bios engineers have the option to restrict "AUTO" to 100 with 400FSB and above, but whether it's really implemented is another thing.

Anyway, could you verify what your PCI-e freq is at 480FSB?

There's no harm to set it at 100MHz first to eliminate it from being a problem. And, nVidia cards have much lower PCI-e freq tolerance.

i maybe very wrong here but i am not away that the 965 uses the 1333 strap.
infact i would almost bet it doesnt.
leaving the strap at 1066 would allow the 965 chipset to seem faster but not allow as high of fSB. which is exactly what we are seeing.
now.. on the flip side of things it is possible it IS using the 1333 strap simply because at the same clocks the 975 chipset is faster.
on the 3rd side of that coin, we already know the latency of the 965 chipset is looser than the 975 which could also explain why its slower..

so...

either way i dont think the 965 uses 1333.

i'd sure as sam hell love it if gigabyte got off their arses and fvcking fixed the issues with Micron D9 ram not going over 950mhz.
its really starting to piss me off and i'll have to go buy someone elses board soon if they cant fix it.
08-28-2006, 08:03 PM
Jodiuh

So PCIe on what for best OC? I'm on auto...
08-28-2006, 08:53 PM
BottomsUp

i'm using auto too as 100 doesn't seem to make a difference in my OC. What is default PCI-e speed?
08-28-2006, 10:16 PM
Warpcore

Auto is ok if your at stock speeds.But for oveclocking you should lock it to pcie 100.Which by the way is the default speed.Not what the front side bus runs at.

FSB = 266 PCIE = 100 PCI = 33 Stock.
08-29-2006, 12:10 AM
ElBobbo

I apologise - it was my mistake assuming he was implying that it was 1:1 with the FSB.

However, doesn't it seem ridiculous to you that if you set it to 100MHz it's suddenly going to develop the ability to run at 100MHz if 'auto' cannot? If you set it to 'auto', it's going to try to stay at 100MHz; if you set it to 100MHz, it's going to try to stay at 100MHz. If it can't do it, it can't do it.

Also, has anyone got any suggestions on a utility that'll show PCIe frequency? CPUz/AIDA32/GCPUID don't do it.

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