You just made my day!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kashelz
Also, should I stop using the DS3 VDROOP mod with these newer BIOSs?
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You just made my day!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kashelz
Also, should I stop using the DS3 VDROOP mod with these newer BIOSs?
Hope F8i will help you :) I dont know about vdrop mod, but Im not using any mods for my board, but if there is hard mod to incrase FSB limit more than 490FSB or 500 then tell what I must do :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by aldamon
Should I disable the "no execute memory protect" feature?
what vdroop mod did you used?Quote:
Originally Posted by aldamon
TAT and Coretemp report without 1c of each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lufusol
Im at 62c/60c now underload at 2.8ghz stock cooling (yes im going to get a better one eventually) Oddly enough speedfan never works for me, it shows me fan running at 12k rpm and temps are way off. lol
http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=3870&s=9Quote:
Originally Posted by ferds
I used conductive ink and it's fully reversible. I've already removed and reapplied the ink once.
thanks aldamon!
ill try it and see if it can solve my vdroop issue.. i dont have conductive ink so ill probably used pencil instead.
Hmm, is there more information about that resistor on the board what is needed to change for more FSB? It looks like beta BIOS is working ok, 480 - 490FSB for me, now need to mod the board to get 525FSB :DQuote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
And sorry, if more information about this issue has been posted already :slap:
Hey, I may be blind, because I can't find the "Hardware Memory hole remapping" option in the DS3 F6 bios?!
I need it so the XP recognizes the full 4GB, only seeing 3.5GB now.
Yada yada, why should all you cheap gits who bought the cheap a** DS3 get serviced before us PREMIUM DQ6 folks?
Gigabyte should be focusing on those who pony up top Dollar for top boards.
Installed the Tuniq Tower in the DQ6. Had to remove crazy cool, which is very easy to do. Tower fit fine and temps dropped drastically. Looks like my Freezer Pro 7 was limiting my maximum overclock.
Ok, well max stable with the F7 Bios is 8x476 resulting in 3.808 clockspeed...Unfortunatly, it requires 1.625 volts in bios. Not sure how much droop their is @ this speed. What's a good program I can use to measure my actual vcore?
Any volt mods on the MCH and FSB?
Voltage seems very high for 3.8GHz, i run 3.4Ghz with 1.4V, though i suspect 3.5 needs 1.450V and god knows for 3.6.
this isn't an officially released bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
I installed my E6400 and Team D9 memory. My first test was done using most of the initial BIOS defaults. Thirty minutes later I took this screenshot:
Attachment 52986
I then made these BIOS changes:
Attachment 52989
Here's what I got:
Attachment 52987
Orthos says the hardware failure is in the stress.txt file. I can't find the file. My guess it's the memory but how do find the correct settings?
Because us "cheap asses" are in the majority.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
I set the System Voltage Control to Auto and got the following:
Attachment 52990
The previous problem seems to be caused by my voltage selection. My max load cpu temps was 57°C so I'll have to keep an eye on it.
Now the question is should I try for 510?
+.2 on the fsb, and +.3 on the mch, +.5 on the ram, then 1.625 vcore...Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
Yea its a bit high, but the temps never go over 65 under load thx to the tuniq tower :banana:
Hmm, looks like there is some problems with F8i BIOS, I cant add more voltage than +0.4v, if I add +0.5v, +0.6 or +0.7v, I cant boot into windows, it freez on startup :( Is this known bug or its problem just for me? My memory is cooled with 120mm fan!
I was able to test SuperPi 32M @ 492 x 7 with Teamgroup D9GMH @ 2.2v 4-4-4-12, still testing, but when with same settings I add more voltage to DDR2, system is not stable, cant even boot. And system is not stable for Orthos, just SuperPi 32M, I will replace stock cooling later and add more voltage to CPU to get it stable... I am testing how far this board can go now with F8i, but maybe my memory need more voltage to work with 4-4-4 but I cant add it - its not booting correctly :slap:
Hm, this new beta BIOS is better. Got my S3 mobo flashed with the 965pds3.f8i. I'm now able to post, boot and bench at 7x500 1:1 timing@4 4 3 9.
Don't think it's Orthos stable though.
Using an E6600 Core 2 Duo & Crucial DDR2 Tenth Anniversary PC5300 2048MB Kit memory.
About the new Vdimm ( +0.7V ), I not too sure 2.5V is available, I think Gigabyte just have relabeled the Vdimm voltages, ( 0ld 2.2 Vdimm = New 2.3 Vdimm in reality ).
:)
On F7 it was stable at 288 fsb / 4ghz on normal voltage. Now sometimes it will post and sometimes it wont. Tried increasing voltages and setting to 300 also tried memory at 2.3v which is pretty normal for this memory. System wont even post. Goes into that bios reset loop...off..on...off...on..still wouldnt post after power off. I was starting to think I was going to have to use the cmose reset for the very first time ever. Had to let it go through the bios reset cycle 3 times before it worked and posted at stock speeds.
Needless to say I flashed F7 back onto it and all is well.
Could you give us the voltages that you used in the M.I.T. screen to reach 510FSB? Did you use Auto or Manual to set the voltages?Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
System Voltage Control...........[Auto]
DIMM OverVoltage Control.......[Normal]
PCI-E OverVoltage Control.......[Normal]
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control....[Normal]
FSB OverVoltage Control..........[Normal]
CPU Voltage Control................[Normal]
Memory CPU Vcore..................1.32500V
My Team D9 memory is listed as 2.0 ~ 2.2V. How does this compare to the D9 memory that you used?
I noticed that you used a lower multiplier. Is that the secret to reaching 510FSB?
Were there any other changes that needed to be made to reach 510FSB?
Better tell Gigabyte because non of us can help, bit of a pointless post as I doubt if Gigabyte read these threads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
I'm going back to F7 as well....
Under F7 I can easily do 8*430 cas 4, but the mem needs to be at cas 5 to do the exact same boot under 8i. I still couldn't boot over 500, although using the 4:5 divider I was able to run FSB @ 1000, using 2.5*400.
But for basically the same clocks, I'd rather be running at cas 4.....
btw: Crucial 10th anniv memory (D9GMH) on a week 24 6600.
update: now @ 440*8, cas 4 under F7. With F8i, wouldn't let me go over 400 at cas 4.
http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/2...hz7x500tv8.jpg
An S3 with 965pds3.f8i BIOS, (G)MCH OverVoltage Control +0.1V, FSB OverVoltage Control +0.1V, Vdimm=2.30V, Vcore=1.425V, Thermaltake Big Typhoon Cooler.
Should I dump this board for a better one? :confused:
You don't need to hit those crazy 500+FSB. The people that are trying to hit it are insane overclockers, and many are using 6x multiplier just to see if the motherboard will do that high. And then some are limited to only a 7x multiplier b/c they bought the cheapo 6300. Now if you had a vapochill hooked up and your chip could go 4Ghz, then that would be a different story, but you'll probably be limited to about 3.4Ghz on air, if you're lucky.Quote:
Originally Posted by msgclb
You have a 6400, so try going a little higher to maybe max out your chip at (413x8= ) 3.3 or (425x8= ) 3.4Ghz, etc..
This is what I'd suggest using:
DIMM OverVoltage Control....... +.3
PCI-E OverVoltage Control.......[Normal]
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control.... +.1
FSB OverVoltage Control.......... +.1
CPU Voltage Control................ 1.400
For me I tried overvolting the MCH & FSB to +.2, +.3, etc. and got the same max FSB results at +.1. (6x473Mhz)
I can boot at 473FSB or get that high with SetFSB. Any attempt at 474 hard locks the system. My ram will hit 1Ghz with the 3x ratio at 333FSB.
Well, with this BIOS I can finally go over 460FSB. I'm @ 475FSB x7 = 3.32GHz. I ran SP2004 for an hour on large and small ftt test, and passed **AFTER** I set my Vdimm to +5 (is this 2.3V??, and is it ok to keep it here?) all seems ok, going to play some games to test now. Im just a little freaked out about using +5 Vdimm, but if someone can tell this = 2.3V and with ram cooling it will be ok to use, i'll feel a little bit better. Thanks
It's still early, but my first impression is F8i rocks! Priming away at 460 right now. Before, I couldn't get past 451 or even run 2.2V through my D9 without getting errors in MEMTEST. Now I'm really rocking and my Tunique Tower arrives on Monday. I decided to leave the VDROOP mod on. Also, my X-Fi is still working fine.
I will report back if my Raptor 150GB is not detected on a cold boot. Hopefully the D9 RAM incompatibility was causing that too.
THANK YOU BINGO!
My first post here:) I have to say this thread has been very informative. Thank you everyone for for your valuable comments. I have a rather simple question. Has anyone been able to get the DS3 stable over 3.6ghz with any C2D or settings (I have a E6600)??? I can run 9x400 or 8x450 all day under load. BUT if I boot at anything above that frequency I can't run Prim95 nor Orthos for more than 2minutes without the system rebooting itself (XP boots all the way to 3.8ghz). If you look at this data http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1075792 it seems that I am not the only one with that problem as all the scores over 3.6ghz are done on ASUS boards (I have the highest E6600 overclock with a DS3).
So, 3.6ghz as good as it gets with the DS3????
To get 3.6ghz I am running on air with a Zalman9700 (63 degree under Orthos small FFT load and 36 idle)
Vcore is 1.39V
Dim: +0.4V
MCH: +0.3
FSB: +0.0V
What gives??? :(
Try F8i ericminou.
UPDATE..... Had to back down to 470FSB as for some reason my sound locked up during game play:mad: Testing again....Quote:
Originally Posted by newls1
First post. Love the F8i. Before Max stable was 7x431 or 8x425. Now Stable 7x481 and 8x431. Tried higher in the 7x but wouldn't be too stable,
So far ran over an hour in 7x481 and NP :) big big boost in performance. I can only hope that Final bios will bring a little bit more for the $ :) But even now and then can't beat this board for its price point/performance. Very happy Customer. The only thing thats holding me back is my CPU. Running it at 1.5625 and max only 3.44gig. And can't lower the voltage on it cause crashes. Anyhow i read this thread from page one over the months and its been my pleasure. POST with results with the new BIOS!!
I already have... :( I had to slightly increase my Vcore voltage to boot with the same BIOS settings as with Bios 7 (went from 1.39xx to 1.40). BIOS F8i doesn't seem to fix that problem.. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by aldamon
Then I'm inclined to say you've hit the limit of your CPU with that cooling. 63C is kind of hot. Get the temps down and you might do better.Quote:
Originally Posted by ericminou
My CPU is at 75 degrees C ... nothing bad. I think anything under 80 will work.
Sorry I disagree. Again take a look at the Hardforum results. Why are there so many people able to run E6600 at much higher frequencies (ok maybe not that much higher but all the way to 3.9) than 3.6ghz on ASUS boards?? But NONE of the DS3 can cross 3.6??? 63 isnt that hot. Just browse through the many forums and you'll see people going into the low 70s. BTW, I have a L629Bxxx chip/.Quote:
Originally Posted by aldamon
Take a look at this!!! No one over 3.6 with the DS (on air nor water). We all are hitting a hard wall there!!!!
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8894/conroe1gd5.png
For everyone who is saying "yeah! this bios is the sh:banana: t!!!" What exactly are your bios settings because I am about to flash back to F7 because I can't overclock AT ALL ANYMORE with F8i... It just resets back to default... and sometimes it doesn't reset I just get a flashing line in the upper left corner.
It's cause your a nub ... or you've hit the strap ....
But anyway, I find that MCH at +.2 is more stable than +.3 ... so try that
Update, rand 7x481 for few hours Orthos, browsing and regular stuff. NP. Decided to overclock video, crash, go to bios and give +.1 to PCIE. Reboot, no go, no go, 7x470, no go. down to 460, boots but crashes after few min. upped the vmch and fsp, and lowered Vcore to 1.5 and so far running orthos for 40 min 7x470
weird. Cause ran just fine 7x481. did benchmarks and everything,then try to boot again and no good.... any reason you can think of?
Also today did the Vdroop Mod, i still had the same drop as before, didn't affect vdroop at all? did any of you see no difference? I did it with a conductive ink.
yep... you are right... beside how often do u run your PC at full load?? and 36~37 at idle is very reasonable....Quote:
Originally Posted by ScythedBlade
was that addressed to me??? humm... ??? I would be more than happy to see someone to get that board stable over 3.6 on any FSB...Quote:
Originally Posted by ScythedBlade
It works fine. Try again.Quote:
Originally Posted by tripleflip18
ericminou, I look at your chart and I see a lot of water cooling beating you and not by much. Be thankful you're within a few percentage points of those expensive water cooling setups.Quote:
Originally Posted by ericminou
Let's see what Lestat says eh? Should be interesting. LOL.
You do?? I only see one guy having a better score than me with the DS3 board?? are we looking at the same chart?? and he only gets 3.680 with a E6400?? but pay attention how many people with the Gigabyte boards get stopped between 3.5~3.6???Quote:
Originally Posted by aldamon
I am happy, but I want more:), but I doubt a better cooling with help me achieve that. A new board might...
Yeah, you're right. Sorry. I'm out of suggestions. LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by ericminou
I guess all I will say is, yes you could get better cooling and a $200+ board, but considering the cost, I think the phrase diminishing returns applies. Good luck with your quest.
Maybe apples with dip. :D After booting up a P5B Deluxe, 6600, and the Crucial Anniversary ram, I can't help but think, "Why?" :slap:Quote:
Originally Posted by aldamon
Just redone the Vdrop Mod and its just amazing seeing the volts staying the same. some testing again.. lol
Most people run there CPU underload all the time since they don't turn off PC. Im at 60c underload and would not want to go any more.
??? You are running both cores at 100% utilizations all the time?? huh??? MOST people leave there PC idle not at full utlizations:) idle meaning 0% (or near 0%) processor load.Quote:
Originally Posted by markopoleo
All of those people who ponied up for a $250+ motherboard, probably ponied up for watercooling (check chart), 600W-1000W PSU's (not on chart), top notch ram (check chart), have great case cooling / NB cooling (not on chart!), etc.. There's more to the #'s than that limited information on the chart.Quote:
Originally Posted by ericminou
My experience leads me to believe those people at the top with the top end motherboard, probably took some extraoridinary means to get there. Like trying several CPU's. I know at least one of those people tried 3 different e6600's before he got one that did over 3.6Ghz! SO maybe all is not what it seems with "THE Chart".
Oh yeah, and for me less has been more on the MCH & FSB voltages. With +.1v for both, I can reach 473Mhz FSB with F7 BIOS. Try backing down that +.3v!
OR MAYBE you're right. And maybe its just something like the power circuitry on the DS3 is only good up until about 3.6Ghz max. Compared to the power circuitry on the Asus board that costs nearly twice as much, is a little bit better and can handle some more Mhz.
I leave my comp stressed for 20 hours on 71 degrees C, and it doesn't burn out. so ehh ..
I agree... but I dont think the cooling is an issue yet!! I was planning on going to water once the temp was the road block. I have a GREAT 600W power supply, good memory and I am on my 4th CPU :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisf6969
My memory is actually rated at 2.2v that's why the +0.4v. I leave the FSB voltage at Normal. I tried to take down the MCH, but without any luck. I mean even 402x9 fails with 1.50vcore while 400x9 runs 24hours with a 1.393vcore??Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisf6969
Finally, I even ran Orthos 7x475 for 4 hours (stopped it)....
I would be very curious to hear that and I would be ok with that answer. It is a rather cheap board, but then I hope the Q6 can handle over 3.6ghz... I know I am going to buy a new board to play with this weekend...Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisf6969
Every attempt by me to set any voltage in the BIOS has failed. I've tried all kinds of combinations. So far the best stable Orthos that I've got is 400FSB using Auto voltages. Evenidently the BIOS can select the proper voltages better than I can.
Attachment 53005
what voltages have u tried so far? the earlier once (LxxxA) need a little more Vcore than the B version...
Quote:
Originally Posted by ericminou
Not anyone I know..that is such a waste to not use it. :rolleyes:
You can run under load for a long time without any problems, I ran my old p4 underload for 4 years at almost 70c. Plan on doing same with this one. We run about 30+ computer in lab underload all the time, one is now a quadcore that will be running underload for next couple years.
lol.... so what does it do to be busy 24/7?? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by markopoleo
Like most people here they run distributed programs on CPU all the time, like BOINC for instance. The computers at the lab run distributed program to do data crunching so we don't have to.
Why buy a high end CPU and have it sit idle until you use it when its made to run all the time. ;)
Who said anything about buying it?? :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by markopoleo
The latest for DQ6 is still F7 final or is there an F8 beta floating around somewhere?
Yeah, I'm going to start folding with both cores again once I get my Tunique Tower in there and figure out my new top speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by markopoleo
I'd say an F8b/c beta bios is floating around for the DQ6...somebody pony it up!
PM me, not for the BIOS but maybe I can help you. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
;) do keep us informed bingo :D. I love the way that you're helping us like this :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
I've finally was able to set the voltages manually.
Attachment 53015
The first values are using Auto and the second is my Manual settings.
Attachment 53017
The CPU-Z processor voltage shows 1.440v in the screenshot but that reading was 1.213v most of the time. Occasionally it would jump to 1.440v and of course it just happened to be 1.440v when I took the screenshot. You'll notice that this reading was 1.408v when I used Auto. Are any of these reading to be believed? I'll now see if I can up the FSB.
I am just wondering any news for us S3/DS3 guys. I am stuck at 430 and I know my 6300 can do more than 3GHZ:) Oh and btw thanks Bingo for the help updates ect.... :)
There any sucess with the new bios on the DS4?
My wall is 490 wont budge above that, am wanting to go higher! :) Currently on F3B bios iirc. Last time i updated was like August when it came out.
thanks.
c_d
Once you get over about 1.45v, the voltage gets read incorrectly. It jumps down to like 1.2xxv which is obviously not right. When you were at Auto it was probably at 1.4125, which read as 1.408v in windows.Quote:
Originally Posted by msgclb
To get higher than 3.2Ghz you're might just need 1.5v+
Do you have SetFSB ? If not download it and use it to up the FSB while you're in windows. Sometimes you can reach higher than you can with a boot.
Also try booting at like 405Mhz (skipping a few Mhz to make sure the highest strap is set).
Why do you know yours can do more than 3Ghz? My e6600 only does 3Ghz, there are a lot of chips out there that just max out at 2.9-3.1Ghz. There's a reason Intel set the X6800 @ 2.93Ghz.... (its what it needed to be sure of reliable yields).Quote:
Originally Posted by vengance_01
I know its not the motherboard, ram, etc..
I've tested at
9x333, 8 x 375, 7x430 all = 3Ghz
I've run the ram at 4-4-4-12 @ 920Mhz, & 5-6-6-17 @ 1Ghz
tried up to 1.45v, the chip just dies around 3.04Ghz :(
I just upgraded to F8i bios for the DS3...but uhm, how do I change the timings of the ram? Its got it running 5-7-7-12, CPUz says. When I press crt+f2, I get extra voltage options and all but no timings like I did with F6.
Thanks guys.
its crtl+f1
Hm, You should press Ctrl + F1 in main BIOS window.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shelnutt2
Ctrl + F2 will erase the BIOS. :nono: ( Kidding! :slapass: )
--------------
Take note!
Vdimm setting is partly broken in 965pds3.f8i beta BIOS.
Normal in BIOS = 1.8V with DMM
+0.1V in BIOS = 1.9V with DMM
+0.2V in BIOS = 2.0V with DMM
+0.3V in BIOS = 2.1V with DMM
+0.4V in BIOS = 2.1V with DMM <- measures exactly the same as above
+0.5V in BIOS = 2.2V with DMM
+0.6V in BIOS = 2.3V with DMM
+0.7V in BIOS = 2.4V with DMM
- at least on my S3 board. Can someone confirm this? :)
ctr + f1....boy I feel stupid.
Thanks guys!
and rofl at the erasing the bios!
really? Whats going here?Quote:
Originally Posted by OnLine
F8i bios doesn't work well for me. At each restart, my comp would not post unless I turn PSU off for a couple of minutes then restart. This happened with or without OC. Back to F8a.
F8i > F8a, concluded ... and the F7 > F8a in overclocking, but the F8i > F7 in overclocking. This is with patriot memory, which is a D9 variant.
I booted using the BIOS settings below. I then used SetFSB to increase my FSB with the following results:
420FSB Orthos Passed
424FSB Orthos Failed @ 17 min
Attachment 53053
Attachment 53052
Turns out that all this time my issues were processor related. For some reason my E6300 was hitting a wall at 450FSB. I switched to an E6400 and am now doing 490x7 1:1 with my RAM. It struck me a little odd that my cpu would hit a dead wall like, usually you get a point of gradual vcore increase until you hit the wall, but this was basically stock volts and then dead wall. I guess that's why I didn't figure it to be the processor. Anyway, looks like my 450fsb issues are resolved - still using F8i bios for DS3 on my S3.
http://www.thepengellys.com/stuff/e6...x7-f8ibios.jpg
why are f8 beta bios from gigabyte Ds3 not working on gigabyte Dq6 ?? so different card ?
P965 vs 975X, isn't that different enough?Quote:
Originally Posted by PytonOrm
Dq6 isnt a 975 chipset, its a 965, with a ICH8R southbridge, and 2 pcie slotsQuote:
Originally Posted by saboya
Since you're using the F8i BIOS I'd bet the settings are basically the same. Could you make the necessary changes that you used to obtain 490FSB with your E6400 to the settings that I added below? I made a few guesses but I haven't a clue about the voltages.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMikeSS
CPU Clock Ratio:.................... 7x
CPU Host Clock Control:.......... Enabled
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz):..... 490
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz):. Auto
System Memory Multiplier:...... 2.00
Memory Frequency (Mhz):....... 980
DRAM Timing Selectable:........ Auto or Manual
CAS Latency Time:................. Auto or 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay:... Auto or 6
DRAM RAS# Precharge:.......... Auto or 6
Precharge delay (rRAS):......... Auto or 15
ACT to ACT Delay:.................. Auto
Rank Write TO READ Delay:..... Auto
Write to Precharge Delay:........ Auto
Refresh to ACT Delay:............. 0
Read to Precharge Delay:........ Auto
Memory Performance Enhance: Normal
System Voltage Control:......... Auto or Manual
DIMM OverVoltage Control:..... Normal or ?+0.5V
PCI-E OverVoltage Control:..... Normal
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control:.. Normal or ?+0.2V
FSB OverVoltage Control:....... Normal or ?+0.2V
CPU Voltage Control:.............. Normal or ?1.5000
I currently stuck on 420x8. Thanks;)
Becaus the BIOS ID are different... And why's it different.. cos DQ6 and DS3 hardware features & components are different..Quote:
Originally Posted by PytonOrm
therefore they both can't share the same BIOS like DS3 & S3 .. actually.. it's not recomment to use DS3 bios on S3 board.. just in case if you are sending back for repair.. it might confuse those engineers
Changes made in the quoted part above.Quote:
Originally Posted by msgclb
<rant>Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMikeSS
I've been trying to tell people this for a while. Everyone is quick to jump on the D9 bandwagon / blame the mobo / ram, etc. Its just some Core2's die around 2.9-3.1Ghz. Too many people are running around quoting things like "All week xx can do x.xGhz." etc... when its bullsh1t. Or "Asus P5B-E's hit 500Mhz easily"... they might hit it more reliably (often) than many other boards, but still not all boards are created equal and there are going to be many that get stuck below 500Mhz.
<end rant>
I've tested my system atQuote:
Originally Posted by msgclb
9x333, 8x375, & 7x430 (all = 3Ghz)
I got quite a bit more bandwidth (sisoft memory benchmark) at the higher FSB's, but almost all of the other benchmarks were very close and some were faster at 333FSB. So I've left it there!
IF you reach 490FSB, test both setting and see the difference. Higher FSB with lower multiplier doesn't always equal better performance. It might have to do with the NB strap or that I'm at a natural/stock FSB (- more optimized). Ex's: 266/333/400
Thanks. Do you believe your eyes or do you believe the truth?Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMikeSS
Attachment 53073Attachment 53072
You'll notice that both Orthos and Core Temp think that I'm at 3600MHz (514x7). The truth is below:
Attachment 53074
I couldn't get 490FSB to work no matter what settings I would try.
I finally dropped down to 450FSB and the settings below.
This was stable for 30 minutes of Orthos.
CPU Clock Ratio:.................... 7x
CPU Host Clock Control:.......... Enabled
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz):..... 450
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz):. Auto
System Memory Multiplier:...... 2.00
Memory Frequency (Mhz):....... 900
DRAM Timing Selectable:........ Manual
CAS Latency Time:................. 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay:... 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge:.......... 5
Precharge delay (rRAS):......... 15
ACT to ACT Delay:.................. Auto
Rank Write TO READ Delay:..... Auto
Write to Precharge Delay:........ Auto
Refresh to ACT Delay:............. 0
Read to Precharge Delay:........ Auto
Memory Performance Enhance: Normal
System Voltage Control:......... Manual
DIMM OverVoltage Control:..... +0.4V
PCI-E OverVoltage Control:..... Normal
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control:.. +0.2V
FSB OverVoltage Control:....... +0.2V
CPU Voltage Control:.............. 1.5000
With my current setup of 490x7 Orthos thinks I'm running 3.9ghz - I think lowering the multi on the 6400 confuses Orthos and some other programs. cpuz at least shows correctly. Your 6400 might be suffering from the same 450fsb limit that my 6300 suffered from. Which is interesting because it would prime for an hour and 1/2 before failing at 450x7. Wouldn't do anything higher than that. Could be your cpu is limiting you like it was me.Quote:
Originally Posted by msgclb
Just bumped it up to 500x7, same bios settings:
http://www.thepengellys.com/stuff/e6400-500x7.jpg
I can understand what you are saying, but I was also thrown off when I tried running my ram at higher FSB while running the cpu at lower multi ie: 500x6 3.0ghz to see if my ram would run DDR2-1000 and it didn't boot, while 450x7 3.15ghz was fairly stable. 460x6 2.76ghz also would not even boot for me. But again, 400x7 2.8ghz was prime stable. I see where you are coming from and it is definitely true. But there are other circumstances here. I believe after seeing my own results that it's not the actual core clock that's a limit on some cpus but the FSB. Some just won't go beyond 450. My e6300 was tested on a P5B-E and hit the same exact wall that I hit with my S3. The P5B-E has been running with another 6300 at around 3.6ghz stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisf6969
I'm taking donations for a X6800.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by MadMikeSS
Haha, dream on. :stick: :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by msgclb
Update:
For the haters out there who are raggin on us folks that bought so called cheap motherboards. Now that my cpu has been eliminated as the limiter for my overclock, I did some testing to see where the range was on my ram. I am memtest stable up to 520, 525 was freezing memtest. With this F8i bios I am quite happy. I don't really want to push my vdimm too high since this ram is only warranteed to 2.2v, I tried up to 2.4v but didn't make a difference at 525. I was pretty sure this memory that I'm using was a D9 variant. If it is then I guess I'm getting past the resistor problem.
I don't believe the truth cause you are running at 67c! That is way to hot for overclocking.
I would not run that underload 24/7 without serious CPU problems in near future..
Showed the same thing on my board, Asus P5B-E. It's something with the E6400 and Orthos just not picking the clock speed up properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMikeSS
just wanted to get back with you gentlemen after my jump to the dark side.
the eVGA is the wackiest i have seen yet.
huge holes in the FSB worse than what people have reported.
but i am able to run my gskills @ 1111mhz 5-5-5-15 w/ 2.15v but only if i use the 3:2 divider
so im happy about that although would have liked to of seen 4-4-4 or 4-5-4 or 4-4-5 but oh well.
and increasing the vdimm actually causes the system to not boot,, totally weird.
i can run 4ghz on the eVGA but its wierd.
i miss my DS3 this board IS slower, it IS, but not by alot, but it is slower., even with the ram running 1111mhz ,,, its slower than the DS3 at much much less ram speed.
the the guy who bought my DS3 you better cherrish that beast, its a rare DS3.
Thats why I asked earleirQuote:
i miss my DS3 this board IS slower, it IS, but not by alot, but it is slower., even with the ram running 1111mhz ,,, its slower than the DS3 at much much less ram speed.
You able to post comparative memory bandwidth figures for eg Sandra or any other such util ?Quote:
Originally Posted by LvR
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7...rthos2hgo4.jpg
965pds3.f5 BIOS! :spill:
Why do people hate this mobo ( S3/DS3 )? Is this CPU temp dangerous in the long run? :stick:
That temp is ok, mine runs 60-62c underload. I would not go higher than that though.
Cheers!Quote:
Originally Posted by markopoleo
I'll reduce my clock now to 3.4GHz @ 1.375V because it's a bit silly having a high rpm fan on max ( slapped on a Big Typhoon cooler )! :slapass:
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Originally Posted by OnLine
what ram do you have ? and is it 2gb or 1gb (2x 512)
( CPU-Z #2 in ss says 2048MBytes )
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/6...rsary08wc4.jpg
Crucial DDR2 Tenth Anniversary PC5300, 2048MB Kit w/two matched DDR2 667MHz.
It's an S3 board, chipset Rev.C2. Vdimm= 2.2V. V(g)mch=+0.2V.
I've read Micron D9 memory should hit 1100MHz easily with some laxed timings, but this board has Micron D9 issues so I guess I'm happy with this.
:)
2GB in the screenshot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
BTW, I just installed F7, and right now I'm running SuperPI 32MB at 480Mhz with Fatbody D9. I was hitting a 450Mhz wall with the F6 bios, so we'll see if hit a wall now.
I wasnt here for several days any newer BIOS for DS4 after F7b?
:clap: :nono: :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by saboya
DS3 AND DS4 are p965.clear enough?:D;)
Any better work with bios V f7 on dq6?