I think that TxAg was asking about the P4P800-E not the P4C800-E.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stocky
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I think that TxAg was asking about the P4P800-E not the P4C800-E.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stocky
i tried every bios for p4p800-e that supports dothan, and none of them allow for multi change.
I can now adjust the multiplier in the BIOS on my P4P800-E DLX using the latest BIOS for the P4P800 SE, 1010. I haven't noticed any problems using the BIOS other than the Promise controller not working but I use the ICH5R southbridge anyway.
So if you have a P4P800-E DLX and you want to be able to adjust the CPU multiplier in the BIOS, use the P4P800 SE.
That's good to hear. Sorry for misinforming others; I don't know why it wouldn't work for me, and now I've sold the board.Quote:
Originally Posted by TxAg
Ah, glad to see it's all been cleared up :D
Just booted in at 3GHz, gets 24Sec SuperPi...
Will try faster soon, but still have to burn in the RAM write a couple of articles and finish the system off! :rolleyes:
:slobber: :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Stocky
Ryan
thanks for making that clear, i have been thinking about flashing a bios from a different board into it, but didn't because i was unsure if it would work.Quote:
Originally Posted by TxAg
Do you need bootblock with that bios??
Yes, you need to use the older AFUDOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by skane
Good step by step instructions can be found here:
http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showth...0&page=1&pp=15
Yes. Using the version of AFUDOS on the first page, type afudos /iromname.rom /n /pbnc.Quote:
Originally Posted by skane
Has anyone tried mounting a CNPS9500 onto their board yet ? I've got some of the legs left over from my CU7000 and am thinking it might work.
Ryan
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=81627Quote:
Originally Posted by Banzai
post n°13
It seems like there are new bios for both P4P800 (1021.006 beta) and P4P800SE (1010 official)
Has anyone tried them out? Notice anything new?
Also, anyone here has a spare shim or wouldn't mind making a few more?
I would be happy to pay for some nice shim so I can use my zalman cnps7000alcu.
I sorta messed up foam from stock hsf really bad, so that's out of the question.
Really like those shims some of you have made from 0.8mm aluminum stocks.
buy old northwood, williamette or tualatin :) they all have IHSes compatible with dothan..Quote:
Originally Posted by justthinking
Thanks TXAG ... my PM scales much better now after flashing my P4P800-E with the P4P800SE BIOS ... I did notice my X800 doesn't oc as high but I need to flash back to test that ...Quote:
Originally Posted by TxAg
i also just flashed my p4p800-e to se, and i noticed my proc behaves much more normal now, it just becomes unstable instead of hitting a wall a certain speed.
Hey guys, I need some advice, on running a 730 on a plain p4p800 dlx mobo. Looking at the first post, I see that it is compatible but I don't see which bios I should be using for this mobo. Should I use the new p4p800 1021.006 or one of the modified p4c800-e, p4p800-e, or p4p800se bios? Sorry just a little confused. Thanks for any help.
P4P800SE Bios 1010, P-M 740@2.6GHz (200x13), 1GB Dual Channel DDR400 (2-2-2-5), X800Pro@540/580
P4P800 Bios 1019, P4 2.4C@3.24GHz (270x12), 1GB Dual Channel DDR434 (2-3-2-5), X800Pro@540/580
Super Pi 1M: P-M=27s; P4=42s
3DMark2001se: P-M=32,000; P4=22,300
3DMark03: P-M=13,200; P4=12,000
3DMark05: P-M=6,000; P4=5,800
Interesting benchmark results, P-M shows a huge edge in Super Pi and 3DMark2001SE. However, when it comes to 3DMark03 and 3DMark05, the performance differences are minimal. I guess we can pretty much conclude GPU is the bottleneck here.
I think it seems to help quite a bit with 3D03. I pull a 15.5K in 3Dmark03, with a 6800nu. Most other 6800nu's seem to do 12K-13K.Quote:
Originally Posted by justthinking
Finally! My Dothan 760 arrived today :toast:
Here's what's written on it:
RH80536 760
Q529A184 SL7SM
Any good?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stocky
How did you manage that..... What are your specs.... I cannot get mine past 2750 Mhz after it freezes.
Alex
Thanks to my friend stryg from Denmark I got a p4gpl-x. :toast: I am running a 750 and it freezes at 2800. 2750 seems to be max stable. I set jumper to 533 fsb. I see a lot of people say set it to 400.
Im glad everything is up and running.
Have you already modded the board for more vdimm?
Still on stock cooling? I gained ~200MHz going from stock to the 7700Cu on my 730.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 16floz470ml
No I have not modded the dimm voltage. I have ballistix. Does more voltage even help them? They seem to max a little over 250 fsb 2-2-2-5. 2.9 volts max setting in bios. I have a 7000cu for cooling. It idles around 32c. Load is max 48c with 1.47v setting in bios. According to asus probe my voltage is 1.58. It is really cool on the zalman how there are adjustment points in the copper to allow for moving the mounting bracket. It bolted right up with stock parts.
Hey all, my mate sent me his Dothan 750 as he thought it was borked.
I've tried every setting possible in BIOS and on the CT479, but the chip will get to my dual boot windows screen, and when I choose which Windows, it just goes to a blank {read: still on, just nothing on it} screen.
The chip seems to have a small little bubble like thing about 1mm from the die to the right in the middle.
Ryan
Try booting into safe mode.
Where can i find the stepping on the pcb? neither c0 or b1 is on my cpu. and How does intel present the batch numbers on the pcb?Quote:
Originally Posted by stryg
i think cpu-z shows it.. in the family-stepping-... thing (main screen)Quote:
Originally Posted by Waus-mod
like in this screenie.. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...14&postcount=5
notice where it says c0, that is my current 760, a "C0" one apparently ...
the old fsb100 chips should have a b1 in there
Ok. but still like to know where intel puts the batch numbers on the pcb, and also would like to know witch the best batches are. like the 0020 till 0060 from amd.
Tried that, same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by TxAg
Ryan
Just FYI, I successfully fitted one of those new Zalman CNPS9500-LED coolers last night to me P4C800-E Dlx.
In short: it's relatively easy to fit.
If interested, you can read more about what's involved here.
When using SetFSB or Clockgen to adjust FSB, does it make a difference if bootup at 200fsb or 201fsb then apply the change?
yes, 200 uses tighter timings and some tweak, so will not usually reach as high as 201..
Also you don't get locks at 200.
I go either 199 or 201, 199 is much faster when you scale but mine won't pass around 225 yet at 201 it's good to 305.
Hi, my system is:
PIV 2,8Ghz @ 3.2Ghz || Zalman 7000 AlCu
Asus P4P800E - Deluxe || 512Mb OEM
Seagate Barracuda 40Gb
Nvidia 6600GT XFX @546/1.12 Zalman VF700 ALCU led
Philips DvdRw ||Sound Blaster 5.1 || LC 550W
CoolerMaster STACKER
Do you think that buying a dothan is a god thing to do?
Sorry for my english.
Yes it will get you closer to eternal enlightenment.
Ryan
I've always had locks @ 200 :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by wwwww
or maybe its just that clockgen won't show them?
clockgen has always shown 72/36 (what i set in bios) and never changes even when i boot @ 200...:cool:
You don't get locks for ATi X8xx cards, and I think its the same case for the 9700/9800. All nVidia cards get locks. Don't ask me why.
I need some help guys.
Few days ago I lost my adapter becouse of bed soldering, but i will buy another.
With my 730 taken out of hp laptop I achived 2980 MHZ on P4P800-E Full moded (droop mod, dimm mod and my new V-CORE mod) with ZALMAN.
The best super PI I get was about 26.870, I am not satisfied. I think that the problem were bad timmings. WIth my HYNIX D4 I can reach alnost 290 1:1 but with 3-4-4-6. I did many tests and I realized that with much lower frecuency but with timings 2-3-3-5 i got the same results!!! My HYnić can`t reach 2-2-2-5 even as ddr 400.
I am looking for 2x512Mb but cant be slower than mine. I have read that old school BH5 would be perfect. I have find 2 options on ebay.
What are yours opinions?
http://www.ebay.pl/viItem?ItemId=6827295789
http://www.ebay.pl/viItem?ItemId=6829007045
Please advise me.
http://www.ebay.pl/viItem?ItemId=6829007045
are the best :)
or you could try ballistix :)
How fast are you running your P4? (FSB and Multipier)Quote:
Originally Posted by tozas1979
I think you will see biggest performance boost if you simply get a new hdd.
Get a 7200RPM HDD w/ 8mb cache and you should get 10% - 15% performance increase.
for the easy u-wire vcore mod. Do you stick the wire in the CT-479 or on the motherboard itself?
pic found here http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=31255&stc=1
On the CT-479
Quote:
Originally Posted by bhoward
k thanks.
Haven't got a dothan rig atm (other than my laptop) but just got a new cooler for my p4gd1+730 rig that's comin'.
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/2...ecooler0tj.jpg
Basically a Thermalright Xeon cooler with the mounting stuff of the stock cooler. Seems like it'll fit perfectly as long as you move the external power connector. P4GD1 should arrive tommorow or the next day. Will test if it fits then, don't see why it wouldn't though. And will test performance as well :)
Got my 2nd P-M 740 (retail box) and it won't boot at 200x13 even w/ 1.5v,
however it boots at 200x12 w/o any problem w/ voltage all the way down to 1.4v...
My other P-M 740 is an oem unit and it runs rock solid at 200x13 w/ 1.475v bios setting.
So frustrated, this new p-m 740 even has a later batch code, yet it just won't boot at 200x13 or even 199x13...
there are newer dothans that just hit a wall at some frequency, mine for example does 2.48 without problems at 2.4v in bios, but it just wont do 2.5. it all depends on the luck of the draw, and im afraid you got unlucky.
I am testing stability now running at 200x12@1.4v using 3dmark2001se looping infinte...hopefully it will at least run stable at 2.4GHz...
BTW, the batch code is 7514B114 and pack date is 04/28/2005
same problem here with my 740. Runs fine 13x198 with stockcooler, changed to a better one this weekend the temps went down 10-15c under load I can now bench up to 2.7ghz but I can't get it stable for more than a couple of hours in prime @13x200
This retail 740 is stable at 200x12 w/ default voltage, but it seems to hit a wall regardless of setting or voltage at around 2.46GHz.
I could boot up w/ o any problem at 189x13 or 205x12, however, if I increase the speed to 190x13 or 206x12, the system will freeze a few seconds after boot up.
Increase FSB by even just 1MHz to 190x13 or 206x12, the system simply refuse to boot up. Increase voltage to 1.5v still same result.
I just remembered that other P-M 730 tested earlier this month shows similar result, it could run 200x12 at 1.375v stable but I can't get it to stabilize at 250x10. Both chips are made in Philippines w/ date code around 14th week of 2005.
I have a problem here, my max stable oc didn't increase one single mhz when changing from stockcooler to an thermalright sp97, the temps dropped 10-15c and max bench increased but I cant get i stable @200x13 no matter what voltage I set. I'm running an p4gplx, anyone with an solution?
Increase your VAGP and see if that helps. You may need to do a VAGP mod.
that won't help overall overclocks, it "MIGHT" help getting to a higher fsb tho..Quote:
Originally Posted by Neova
I have seen a number of people on these boards talking about getting their 2nd and 3rd CT-479 adapters. Are some adapters faster than others? If some 730's can hit 2.9GHz and others can't do 2.4GHz, would they same hold true for the adapters?
I ask because I have tried 3 CPU's; a 730, 740 and 750. Oddly, they all have about the same max OC regardless of multi or FSB settings. Something seems to be holding them back. I read Hipro's guide to modding the CT-479 but that seems to help FSB speeds more than max OC.
So, to those of you with multiple adapters, will a CPU clock higher on one than another?
I own 4 adapters........None of them has taken my CPU's higher no matter what.......It's about the CPU(well almost) on how to react.......But I've tested a 730, 740, and 3 x 770 CPUs and the worst of them was at 2750MHz..........How come and you cannot go higher?......Don't feed them above 1.55 - 1.5885VCore.......Some (rare) pieces of them, do listen above that but 95% do nothing above 1.575VCore.......They also makes things worse over 1.575VCore.....Quote:
Originally Posted by TxAg
same here mate, my 730 and 750 were doing exactly the same, thought it was ct-479 limiting me, did the mods, didn't help..Quote:
Originally Posted by TxAg
i got a 760 in the post just this minute, gonna stick it in later and give it a whirl :)
edit: holy moly, my day has just got sooo much better, what a sweeet (early) xmas present..
I just booting into windows @ 200x14 (haven't even tried higher yet) and windows is running stable, and f@h is running nice and smooth :D
YES! come back to me 3dmark01 world record!!!!
edit2: 2880 @ 1.575v looks very stable to me so far :D
lol thank you!Quote:
Originally Posted by Banzai
my P4 is running at 14*229Quote:
Originally Posted by justthinking
mems at 1:1
Maybe i´ll do that and buy a new HDD.
thanks!
I'm guessing you've never even tried a mobo without a vdroop mod, but would you say its worth the time or not? Already scratching the vcore mod off my list.Quote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
Vdroop worths every penny....:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Gautam
But, not nessecary on the 915 motherboards, correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by hipro5