I'm Use 9.6 Catalyst
And Temp Are Be Fine I Thinck:D Beacause Use 900/1000 For AquaMark And Got 265K Score
You Say Win7 Is Better For Me?:confused: Any Benching Is Run Well 3D 06 Run And 27K Easy For Me:D But 01 Is Too Low:down:
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I'm Use 9.6 Catalyst
And Temp Are Be Fine I Thinck:D Beacause Use 900/1000 For AquaMark And Got 265K Score
You Say Win7 Is Better For Me?:confused: Any Benching Is Run Well 3D 06 Run And 27K Easy For Me:D But 01 Is Too Low:down:
Got mine over 4.7Ghz with this Gigabyte-EP45C-UD3R
http://img.techpowerup.org/090812/oc.jpg
Got my chip just now. I'm going to run IBT for a few tests and post back.
The first set of tests will see how far I can push her on stock volts.... 1.15v core (yay!)
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/8827/img0132s.jpg
Suprisingly enough, it seems as if I have no stuck sensors. I was expecting one at least.
I updated yesterday to bew F10f bios...seems that they loose some timmings it left me do this at tigh memory timmings on lower volts, the same on bios F10b (tough it scores more latencie on mem) does not run not even minutes...
x8,5 and x8 + tight mem timmings and speed has been always a no go on my system...yes on 9 multi but this seems good...7+ hours blend all nite
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7484/captura6x.jpg
Cheers
Sergio
Ok, first round of tests are complete.
I am running windows vista x64 until 7 is fully released. This is mainly because I want to be able to play bf2142 on this machine.
I set the voltages to stock in the bios for all values.
For all these tests volts were as follows:
PLL 1.50
CPU term 1.20
CPU ref 0.760
Vcore 1.15000
dram v 2.08
dram term Auto
dram chA Auto
dram chB Auto
MCH v 1.20
MCH dram Auto
MCH ref 0.760
ICH IO 1.50
ICH v 1.10
I ran the standard 5 runs of Intel Burn test v2.3 using "maximum" for the memory setting.
It failed by way of BSOD at 445x9 so I backed it down to a maximum of 439x9 for a speed of 3951mhz.
Here are my runs leading to that maximum.
333x9 for 3000mhz
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/265...stockvolts.jpg
400x9 for 3600mhz
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/340...stockvolts.jpg
412x9 for 3700mhz
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/7716/...stockvolts.jpg
423x9 for 3800mhz
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9313/...stockvolts.jpg
434x9 for 3900mhz
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/156...stockvolts.jpg
And finally 439x9 for 3950mhz
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/892...stockvolts.jpg
I'll go one size up on the pics next time.
Next round of tests will see how low of volts it'll do for 4000mhz-4400mhz.
Just got three more runs in. 4005mhz, 4104mhz, and 4203mhz. All IBT stable.
Voltages are on the screen shots.
I'll be running prime eventually, I'm just too excited to stop and wait that long.
4005 @ 1.1625v bios / 1.136v cpuz
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/294...zibtstable.jpg
4104 @ 1.18750v bios / 1.168v cpuz
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/761...zibtstable.jpg
4203 @ 1.23125v bios / 1.2000v cpuz
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/4115/...zibtstable.jpg
Still working on 4302mhz
nkresho...so are sick results, very nice job.
It's getting more dificult to keep the volts as low.
Here's 4302mhz @ 1.275v bios / 1.248v cpu-Z
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8...zibtstable.jpg
Thanks! I will start blending tonight. I'm going to start back at the beginning at 4005mhz and work my way up with the blends.
Very nice nkresho. :up:
Very nice run Sergio.
My 9550 4400mhz blend. Still running, will try and get stable.
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4053/...blendover2.png
OK sergio, another oc for you to try my friend. Prime blend 14hours q9550 EP45-DQ6 board. I know this is not the q9550 thread but we have been testing this chip and board with Sergio's q9650/UD3P and my other q9650 using the 8.5 multi and same load vcore. No LLC on this board so idle vcore is higher.
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/148...ndq9550pas.png
Wow, that's a really awesome 9550 there. Most people will never see that type of speed from a 9650.
I'm still working on my first blend at 4005mhz. It's looking like I'm going to get by with 1.136v. More to come.
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/920...imeblend3h.jpg
Thanks nkresho.
WOW!!!! That is probably the best 4.0ghz vcore I have seen on any q9650. Congrats on that chip. :up:
Hey guys
Im experimenting the world of 8,5multi on my quad and there certain issues that bios after bios repeat, for ex look at this one
4352 (512x8,5 ) 7h+ blend
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/1430/captura6h.png
I used for 1.20VTT .785cpu ref and .80mch (relation) ref BUT when i reboot PC turns off and on again and when i enter bios gives me the red Screen saying OC failed bla bla...
So i did some test and used 1.20VTT .785cpu ref and .84mch (relation) ref and problem solved....
But sometimes it happens that i have to load optimized defaults and re load the OC profile ass prime will fail. I know that the giga has some problems on stored profiles, got to load 2 times or it will leave the divider on AUTO...but for all above not any trouble on x9 multi.
Cheers Sergio
Oh btw F10f bios on post with ALT + F12 lets you get rid of F10e backup
bios, it will flash current version to the backup (Thanks to OC NUB and KHIMO for the solution :up::up::up:)
Yes I understand completely. Spent around 5 months trying with no success to reach 4.4ghz with 2 chips, thinking the whole time it was me that was the problem and not the CPU.
Again Congrats, will be looking forward to seeing your posts with this awesome chip. :up:
Thanks you Sergio.
Pushing harder now, running blend at 4450mhz.
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5...end1hr4450.png
Ok, here's what I have so far. I primed at 4203 this morning and got it stable for a 4 hour screen shot.
I came back around the 5 hour mark to take another and found an empty desktop with the little "your computer has recovered from a ...blah blah... message"
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/170...imeblend4h.jpg
Looking at the cores, I bet it's a gtlref issue as 0 and 2 are off by the same number of tests as 1 and 3...
Am I correct in saying that the cpu ref is 0.797 divided by 1.22 = 65.33% and the nb reference is 0.812 divided by 1.260 = 64.44% I was used to my asus where ther is a ref for 0/2 and anotehr for 1/3??? So IIRC, theres a single gtl ref for the fsb and another single gtl ref for the nb????
Still working on getting this speed blend stable before I go on to the big time... 4400, 4500 beyond. lol
I'll probably do a remount tomorrow as well, as core 1 is always 3-4c higher than the others, which are all within 1-2c of eachother. Might be a bug too.
My second rad (mcr220) comes tomorrow and I have the whole day off, so I'll post more when I have it. I'll try to make a mini worklog thingy for adding a 120x2 to the bottom of a cosmos-s, I'll put it in the water section. If I get ambitious, i might even do a before-after temp comparison of some IBT runs. We'll see though, rad is coming UPS and that guy usually taked until 5pm to get me my stuff.
^^^ Your chip, sir, is simply an engineering feat. Take good care of that chip. :up: Absolutely incredible!
I agree with Zucker2k, that is a great chip. Best I have seen.:up:
^Thanks guys. It is a golden one, I agree. I'm really happy with my results so far. I'll try to keep impressing you, I promise.
And... yeah... I'll do my best to keep her under 65c... Priming anyway. Glad it's almost winter.
No, it's "The One." A real devil of a chip.... scratch that, the "devil chip." :ROTF: :clap:
Anyway, the 9550s are clocking so well that I truly expected the 9650s to perform way better with the latter batches. It seems you really got lucky with your chip, a true gem. :up:
You have to increase the CPU Voltage.
I've got the same problem with my chip perfect stable for 100 passes in LinX but I can't pass Prime95 for 8 hours. Increasing the CPU Voltage makes it stable and I don't have these MACHINE_CHECK_EXCEPTION BSOD anymore.
The only explanation I've got so far for this behaviour is that with lower CPU Voltage you can't give your CPU the amount of watts it need to run stable for several hours.
That's what I think is the problem.:shrug:
I'm taking it slow with this OC as I'm terrified of destroying the bios! Due to bad experianced with 4 previous 680i chipset boards and my old E8500!!! Loads of RMA's!! And about 6 weeks! Anyways - I booted at 360*9 with vcore at 1.185 (VID 1.175v) I booted fine and passed 30mins OCCT test - then i restarted to raise FSB and it wouldnt post! I thought I'd ruined the BIOS, and would have to RMA as the dual bios (on my P5Q Deluxe) wasn't working! Anyhow - I read in the manual that I could hold down "delete" upon turning the system on to restore the BIOS and it worked:) I was soooo happy - why did it do this at only 360?? I'm after a 475Mhz FSB for 4.25Ghz - which is realistic - Any of you know why It didnt post after rebooting on 360Mhz??
thanks
L847C144 VID:1.125 , this moment , linx-ing 3200@1volt (I dont need to rape it from start.. :P) , but having relatively high temps (despite my Ultra 120X) ,~ 48-52 C , im hoping for 3.6@24/7 1.1v or less.. if possible
^ I wish you luck. I'm really happy with my L837c. You beat my vid too.
thnx man, and i was worried when i saw pack date in the box 7/8/09 and the cpu 847.What cooling u use? air or wc?
EDIT: pardon my blindness :p , i just read above u use WC
Same for my 9550, can pass LinX with 1.29vcore-500x8.5 but needs 1.312v to pass a long prime blend run.
nkresho: I am curious to see your temps once you get up to 4400mhz and above. At that point I cannot run LinX/IBT anymore and have to stick with blend due to temps, the vid is 1.175v for my L847C037 9650. The second rad should help a lot, keep posting. :up:
I'l keep you guys informed, don't worry.
I'm 5 hours in at 4200 and it's doing fine. And yes, I did have to add a voltage bump over IBT. I'm up to 1.216v in cpuz, from 1.200.
I'll take a screen shot if she makes it to 8, then I'm off to the land of 4300.
could you take a screen shot like above only using a new version of CPUZ instead of v1.45?
No ac, it's only getting up to about 24c outdoors here this time of year. Windows are open.
Temp measured at the front of the case is currently 26.7c, prime blend is getting the hottest core up to 59c in realtemp (other cores are at 56c). Water temp is at 31.7c in my reservoir.
I just ordered a hk 3.0 waterblock about an hour ago, should be here by the end of the week... it will replace my current dtek fuzion v2.
I plan on putting my other res in tonight whenever UPS comes. I'll get more temp results at this clockspeed to compare to then too.
Ok, finally done with 4203mhz. I got blend stable with 1.24375v bios and 1.216 in cpu-Z
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2...eblend8htg.jpg
I want to see what a second rad does for your temps, I am as high as I can go at 4500mhz because of heat in blend. I will add another if it does well.
Thanks andressergio.
This chip is to good for my ASUS Rampage Formula board.:D
Here's what I've got so far with these nice G.SKILL F2-9600CL5D-4GBPI memory and my Q9650. The ASUS Rampage Formula isn't the best board for OverClocking these Q9650 CPU's but it's a nice board to clock these G.SKILL sticks.
http://i431.photobucket.com/albums/q...RD6-tREF16.jpg
http://i431.photobucket.com/albums/q...tRD6-tRE-1.jpg
I thought about that myself though I am running a PA 120.3 just for my 9650 which is overkill already. I just grabbed another 9550 yesterday from Microcenter for 159.00 and its a 1.150 vid which is nice, 3850mhz at 1.22v so far is not a problem even on this P5QC board.
DAMN!!! That is insane.
ty guys! :D , the only restraining factor seems my
X38-DQ6 (or... my inability to tweak it.. :P) as my first attempts to find a stable high fsb setting had poor results , partly due to my 4x1gb sticks. above ~415(5:6 - ram 498) starts asking for much vMCH in non linear "response" (1:1 setting is obviously much more demanding in terms of vMCH :S)
guys it is safe to use LLC on the UD3R for 24/7 4GHz @ 1.23v?
Here's the first full run with the second radiator installed. Temps went down just a little bit. Water temps are lower by 2-3c, but cpu temps seem down by only about 1c. I guess I wasn't fully using all the radiator cooling potential I already had. No problem though, I'm sure i'll use it eventually.
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/928...end8haddec.jpg
Also, here's the log where I added the rad.
pic-log
nkresho: Great blend run, keep pushing. :up:
early report for 3.6 is ~1.1v at load to pass linx , i havent look around for similar setups, but seems to me just an average 9650, nothing extraordinary...
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3805/linx3600.gif
O/C curve till now:
3.2 -> 1.008v load
3.4 -> 1.056v load
3.6 -> 1.104v load
PS> temps start to worry me.. if i get 60 C at 3.6/1.1 at (hypothetical scenario) 4.0/1.2+ how high ?:S
after setting 3600 the wolf wakes up slowly slowly :P, eager for more... but have obvious difficulties to raise fsb with 4 dimms on x38-dq6. After trial & error , i found the most stable GTLREf settings for 425 fsb and minimum voltages (VTT +0.1/1.21v, MCH +0.075/1.33v) , to be GTLREF 1 : +3% , GTLREF 2 :-9% , kinda weird ?? , such Voltage Delta between these two , is reported to shorten chip's life? , assuming most ppl use a plain 0.63% (or equivalent, both at -3% in a GB board)
ty in advance again :)
EDIT : more VTT :s (+0.1)
Here are some quick results@4.5. This obviously is not Prime stable yet(will probably need 1.45V), but so far stable enough for my purposes. Yesterday I was priming at 4.4 and kept getting errors no matter what Vcore. Temps were topping out at 73C. Some of you guys have talked about this issue, Prime failing if temps get above a certain point. I realized my 38mm fan was installed backwards (pull config), switched it to push config and temps went down to 63C top, and no more errors. Im sorta glad I didnt get one of those crazy low vids, as I really am liking my temps at my Vcore.
http://i26.tinypic.com/33kzp0y.jpg
Wow, nice clocks viper. And on air nonetheless.:clap:
I can't wait until I get to 4500. Soon, very soon.:D
Great job Viper, congrats.
^I hope. Not sure though.
Question for you guys...
When prime runs fine for a number of minutes, then everything freezes up, what is it usually? I have found that with vcore, you'll typically have a core or two fail, but it will keep priming the others. I keep having freezes, not bsod, not cores failing. Wierd. Any advice?
One sec, i'll add my overclocking notes...
I recently was able to accomplish 12hrs of Prime95 blend + IBT with 1.32vcore on a much higher vid chip (1.2125). Those with Turbo Profile and rams at 1200Mhz 2:40B (PL8).
4500Mhz with less then 1.30vcore it's perfectly doable on a low vid chip using slack ram timings like on standard profile and ram's on 1:1 strap.
Nkresto: the freezes you're having are most likely to be ram related. You will probably need more Vmch or Vdimm to correct the problem.
http://i42.tinypic.com/3580too.jpg
Thanks for the insight.
I'm guessing mch then, as I'm running the same "big boy" gskill pi as ocnub and andressergio.
Here's a copy of the last two pages of my overclocking logs...
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9348/83728009.jpg
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/728/91415873.jpg
trying the ibt stable settings with higher mch and mchref right now... we'll see.
Jor that's a so damn good chip that i dont get tired of lookin' such an impressive low 4500 OC's... i tried on mine and not even at 1:1 wich loosen timming i could go less than 1,392vcore
Did enabling all CE1 states and all that you have enabled help on your OC or you just activate all after stable ?
Cheers :up:
Sergio
Very impressive Jor. That is one hell of a chip, I think the guy clocking it has a lot to do with it also. Always nice to see your posts.
lol, its gotta be true...
heh sergio can u link me to some of ur Bios settings past 4.5
i give up trying any more with x38-dq6 , two afternoons spent for nothing, cant get stable 450fsb , no matter what... (with 1.475 MCH -too high already- get random lock ups..), ill stay at low 9x400/1.1 and be "happy" :S .there is a hope in future if i change my ram to some fast 1066+ so with anything than 1:1 the chipset will be much more relaxed.. , but for now "nisafi"- enough
Jor
I tried your same bios settings with all states enabled i was surprised i could boot to W7x64 at such low volts (1,328 cpuz) but playing i BSOD ...so i went back to bios and changed some to get 1,36 on cpuz and i get to play crysis and all games, didnt test blend, Tom did and failed...buts nice to run low volts and cool, also nice to see multi changin from 500x9 to 500x6 when idle lol...
I loosen Gskill timmings and im at 2,08 everest read at PL9 turbo CL5
Will keep trying tough i doubt it could be stable prime but let me play on bit oc'd clocks on the GTX285 for higher OC on VGA i think the 1,46 on the MCH are a must, so a little more vdimm as it dont like to be OC'd with such low volts.
Cheers mate and thanks for those tips :up:
Sergio
Last night I added an 80mm fan to my northbridge. It's sitting on my gpu for now. I was suspiscious of my instability 3-4 hours into a run. And this morning, to my suprise, I found her still chugging away.
I'm deciding whether or not to go ahead and get the EK waterblock for the nb just to keep it under control. If it adds stability I'm all for it.
I read that the nb/sb 5 fits no problem http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/ekwaek5ac.html
If I do that, though, I would probably get the xspc dual ddc res and make it one loop for the nb/gpu on the mcr220 rad, and a separate loop for my cpu with the mcr320... decisions decisions...
Ok, well, the pics...
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2316/...mestable8h.jpg
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7249/addednbfan.jpg
The high exhalted 4500 is next...
^ Incredibly nice. :up:
Thanks guys. Currently priming at 4500
voltages are:
pll 1.50
cpu term 1.340
cpu ref 0.873 65.15%
vcore 1.35000
ddr 2.06
nb 1.400
nbref 0.928 66.29%
ichio 1.5
ich 1.1
2hours 14mins in ... going strong. cross your fingers for me.
Thanks for the recommendation, but if I'm going to cool the nb, i'm going to do it right. I know thermalright makes good stuff, but I put my faith in water keeping it cooler.
Thanks guys, you two are not doing bad at all. I really appreciate the input from you guys.
There are so many variables on the mix that is hard to tell the formula.
I used exactly those settings Sergio, I did the run and after that got into BIOS, so the C1E state etc were on. I don't think that had anything to do with anything.
Temps are an issue so I kept it under 63oC on the CPU.
As I said I could go around 1.30vcore for 4500mhz but that was on loose profile and auto on mems.
Now summer is over and I'm back at my stable 4800Mhz.
Doing some benches again, my goal is to unify the HWbot.org ranks for the Q9650, I did the test that was missing (PCMark05) and grabbed the 3rd. place, I need Acard power to grab 1st.
Thanks for all the compliments.
Very good nkresho, you are shinning already.
Yeah IBT will need less vcore but will need more vmch and vdimm. Funny thing.
Your cpu is great and it's scaling very well with voltage. You will probably brake the barrier of 4500Mhz stable soon enough.
Keep up the hard work and keep us posted.:up:
Thanks. I'm at 5hours 36mins, still going. Tomorrow my HK 3.0 comes. I'm pretty sure I have a bad mount with my fuzion v2, as core 0 always seems 3-5c higher than al lthe others, idle or loaded.
I have decided to order the nb block. I'm going dual loop. More results to follow. And of course pics.
nkresho: The difference in core temps may be the sensors, I have several 45nm CPU's and all have at least 1 bugged sensor.
I have taken the DQ6 out and put the UD3P back in. I will learn to do the volt mod on the DQ6 and put it back in this rig. If it had LLC I would probably never use this ud3p again, I think the DQ6 is a better all around board despite a lot of people saying it is garbage. I was able to clock my q9550 100mhz higher, blend stable with reasonable voltages. The only downfall was the higher idle vcore because of not having LLC.
Well here's the screen shot. I'm a little bothered by the realtemp reading of 7.5 multi in correlation with the cores 0/1 being on different tests than 1/3. Does this mean I have to do another 8 hours to make sure I'm really stable? I honestly don't remember whether or not it said 7.5 at the beginning...
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/4789/...mestable8h.jpg
I wouldn't run it again, try realtemp 3.30. Congrats on your 4500 blend, great vcore. :up:
very nice nkresho
What advanced clocks do you use for clock drive and skews?
Thanks ocnub, I'm going to try a few runs with lower voltages here and there. I used jor's template, and I might be able to get a tad lower on some voltages.:hehe:
Thanks everyone for the recommendations, praise, and compliments.
phsinc1: Stock settings on those.
I'm a big fan of the KISS method. If i'm not forced to change it, I don't.
All that I changed that isn't shown/typed out by my pics is pl8 in the memory settings as well as my cr is set to 2t. All else is auto or hard set to stock settings.
I'll try some runs for 4600 after I put the new cpu block in tomorrow afternoon some time.:D