Nvidia confirms the GTX 580

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11-03-2010, 01:33 PM
Hey Zeus

599 is WAY too high for the 580. What they should do is price it at 499.99 and drop the 480 to 399.99
11-03-2010, 01:42 PM
Rai

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Originally Posted by [XC] hipno650

well this is true but I live in Canada and prices seem to move in accordance with the market (US) pretty good. one thing I have noticed about the Canadian Market however is that ATI cards tend to be priced higher then they should given the strength of our dollar ATM were as the nvidia cards tend to be a better bargain. For example your average 6870 is about 250CAD but a GTX 470 is 265CAD and given the overclocking performance of the GTX 470, as long as you have any half decent power supply then the 470 is a pretty obvious choice...

I think if we wait a few weeks the prices on the 6800 series will settle down. People will sometimes want something just for the sake of it being new. I've the prices in Canada to be somewhat inflated vs. the US as well.
11-03-2010, 01:45 PM
Hey Zeus

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Originally Posted by Rai

I think if we wait a few weeks the prices on the 6800 series will settle down. People will sometimes want something just for the sake of it being new. I've the prices in Canada to be somewhat inflated vs. the US as well.

Am i the only one who doesn't have a problem with the 6870's prices? I think 239.99 is quite good
11-03-2010, 01:55 PM
[XC] hipno650

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Originally Posted by Hey Zeus

Am i the only one who doesn't have a problem with the 6870's prices? I think 239.99 is quite good

when a GTX 470 is 250-265 then 240 might be a little on the high side... the 6850 is priced very well for it's performance considering it matches the GTX 460 and is cheaper but the 6870 is still a tad high, drop it to 219.99 US and thats a smoking deal.
11-03-2010, 01:58 PM
Hey Zeus

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Originally Posted by [XC] hipno650

when a GTX 470 is 250-265 then 240 might be a little on the high side... the 6850 is priced very well for it's performance considering it matches the GTX 460 and is cheaper but the 6870 is still a tad high, drop it to 219.99 US and thats a smoking deal.

Agreed. The XFX 6870 is 259.99 and is an absolute joke.
11-03-2010, 02:52 PM
safan80

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Originally Posted by Hey Zeus

Am i the only one who doesn't have a problem with the 6870's prices? I think 239.99 is quite good

+1
I think the prices are great. What I don't like is people confusing them for the high end cards.
11-03-2010, 02:53 PM
cegras

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Originally Posted by Hey Zeus

Agreed. The XFX 6870 is 259.99 and is an absolute joke.

http://www.shopbot.ca/m/?m=radeon+6870
11-03-2010, 04:37 PM
Eastcoasthandle

I wonder if the improvements to 580 are made to give improvements in applications like Vantage (and guessing DX11 3DMark) run faster. But may not translate in other games? What I've read is that 580 may have full FP16 support, etc. I also wonder if DX11 3DMark will be released the same day (or round about) as the 580? Time will tell.
11-03-2010, 05:38 PM
Dezmen

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Originally Posted by Hey Zeus

Agreed. The XFX 6870 is 259.99 and is an absolute joke.

http://www.cybertek.fr/Composants/Ca...87)-15604.aspx
700$ for gtx580... how you will call that lol? :rofl:
11-03-2010, 05:40 PM
Olivon

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Originally Posted by Dezmen

http://www.cybertek.fr/Composants/Ca...87)-15604.aspx
700$ for gtx580... how you will call that lol? :rofl:

Shop is an expensive one and the €/$ comparison is not really fair :shrug:

Sounds more 499$ IMO ...

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With ultra-fast performance and innovative thermal design, the GPU NVIDIA ® GeForce ® GTX 580 boosts the latest games like Call of Duty ®: Black Ops while ensuring low noise level

COD seems very demanding, for sure ... :D
11-03-2010, 05:48 PM
clayton

I hope it is not sightly faster than AMD's best single GPU while consuming almost as much as their dual cards. Lol.
11-03-2010, 10:23 PM
3Deye

NVIDIA GTX 580: Card Pictures, Benchmarks, Launch date and Price:

URL EDITED http://gpudesign.bafree.net/nvidia-g...ks-launch-date
11-04-2010, 01:36 AM
zalbard

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Originally Posted by 3Deye

NVIDIA GTX 580: Card Pictures, Benchmarks, Launch date and Price:

URL EDITED http://gpudesign.bafree.net/nvidia-g...ks-launch-date

Nothing new here, I am afraid, just a compilation of pictures that were shown on other sites before.
11-04-2010, 01:51 AM
Chrono Detector

I would like to see NVIDIA increase the VRAM to at least 3GB because 1.5GB just isn't really enough. At least they aren't using 1GB on a 256 bit. And also, the leaked price, if thats true... what a waste of money if it isn't going to be much faster than the GTX 480 and its performance isn't that great. Most likely the release of ATI's 69xx would drive the price down.
11-04-2010, 01:56 AM
spursindonesia

OK, take it with a grain of salt for sure, but some distro guys in my country are leaking info regarding GTX 580 launch price. They informed peeps in our local IT forum that GTX 580 will have around US$ 5xx price tag on it. Since we're mostly hit by around 30-50 US$ higher price in graphic card products, i extrapolate that the USA MSRP price would be around US$ 499-549. US$ 5xx is kinda a wide range for accurate prediction, but i think my estimation is quite reasonable.

EDIT:

As added information, the first batch of these babies seems quite available, atleast these nVidia AIBs distros have them on the way/already. But no confirmation whether it will be constantly available & continuously resupplied or not.

One more thing, it will be a BEAST in 3DMark Vantage Xtreme. :yepp:
11-04-2010, 02:45 AM
hurrdurr

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Originally Posted by spursindonesia

OK, take it with a grain of salt for sure, but some distro guys in my country are leaking info regarding GTX 580 launch price. They informed peeps in our local IT forum that GTX 580 will have around US$ 5xx price tag on it. Since we're mostly hit by around 30-50 US$ higher price in graphic card products, i extrapolate that the USA MSRP price would be around US$ 499-549. US$ 5xx is kinda a wide range for accurate prediction, but i think my estimation is quite reasonable.

EDIT:

As added information, the first batch of these babies seems quite available, atleast these nVidia AIBs distros have them on the way/already. But no confirmation whether it will be constantly available & continuously resupplied or not.

One more thing, it will be a BEAST in 3DMark Vantage Xtreme. :yepp:

$500 seems more reasonable but after Cayman comes out it'll still have to undergo a price decrease.

So, the 5870-480-580 chart we saw earlier was the real deal? It showed 40% increase in 3dmark Vantage over GTX 480.
11-04-2010, 06:29 AM
cold2010

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7856/58340921.png

http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/shop/...er_id=!ORDERID
11-04-2010, 06:35 AM
zalbard

Not in stock. :p:
11-04-2010, 06:56 AM
spursindonesia

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Originally Posted by hurrdurr

$500 seems more reasonable but after Cayman comes out it'll still have to undergo a price decrease.

So, the 5870-480-580 chart we saw earlier was the real deal? It showed 40% increase in 3dmark Vantage over GTX 480.

Sorry mate, can't really answer your question. i just got an impression from a fellow OCer in my local forum, he had received info from a reliable source (most likely someone in one of AIB distro) saying the card will be a great performer in 3DM Vantage bench. :shrug:

Price will be determined mostly by market force, even if the card was overpriced, we still have to consider the supply side. A limited supply product will bear the low demand just fine, nVidia will happily accept the donation from its diehard fanbois around the globe. ;)

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Originally Posted by cold2010

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7856/58340921.png

http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/shop/...er_id=!ORDERID

Hmm, quite close with my estimation. :yepp:
11-04-2010, 08:59 AM
Eastcoasthandle

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Originally Posted by spursindonesia

Sorry mate, can't really answer your question. i just got an impression from a fellow OCer in my local forum, he had received info from a reliable source (most likely someone in one of AIB distro) saying the card will be a great performer in 3DM Vantage bench. :shrug:

Price will be determined mostly by market force, even if the card was overpriced, we still have to consider the supply side. A limited supply product will bear the low demand just fine, nVidia will happily accept the donation from its diehard fanbois around the globe. ;)

Hmm, quite close with my estimation. :yepp:

I also guessed the same thing yesterday. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if DX11 3D Mark is released around the same time as well. But that doesn't necessarily mean that it would translate to the same level of performance in games though.
11-04-2010, 09:39 AM
hurrdurr

From that chart, it definitely looked like it didn't translate into games. Vantage difference was 40% while the avg. difference in games was closer to 15 to 20 percent.
11-04-2010, 12:02 PM
Jp7

new slides?

http://www.news4it.it/gpu/425-gtx-58...ioni-riservate
11-04-2010, 12:12 PM
zalbard

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Originally Posted by Jp7

new slides?

http://www.news4it.it/gpu/425-gtx-58...ioni-riservate

Definitely new.
They really should not compare it to 5870, though, it is so wrong. So, 15-25% faster in games than GTX480 on average? It better not cost more than $500. I like the noise rating slides, though, hope that is actually true.
11-04-2010, 12:31 PM
Picao84

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Originally Posted by Jp7

new slides?

http://www.news4it.it/gpu/425-gtx-58...ioni-riservate

Take notice that the slide comparing GTX480 to GTX580 is actually performance per/watt and not really absolute performance.
11-04-2010, 12:35 PM
Manicdan

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Originally Posted by Picao84

Take notice that the slide comparing GTX480 to GTX580 is actually performance per/watt and not really absolute performance.

which means based on the performance increase, we can expect 15% better perf, for about 15% less power, which means we have no idea how they can make an x2 version of this.

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