there are 2 of them, a BFG 600W to run all the bs, fans, pumps, optical drives, and an older PCP&C 1KW for the good stuff
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there are 2 of them, a BFG 600W to run all the bs, fans, pumps, optical drives, and an older PCP&C 1KW for the good stuff
:slobber: :slobber: :slobber:
Wich one has a fan with 3 blades? Or I'm seeing :banana::banana::banana::banana:? :D
that is the PCP&C 1KW
that is a nice rig...mucho power.
linflas what temps u get to water cooled 8800gtx ? my gts is running from 40 to 50c.
Please do some reading around here before you make blanket statements . I really dont want to get into this debate, but...Quote:
Originally Posted by bullit
1. 7/16" ID tubing with 1/2" barbs is the best overall compromise between performance and size.
2. The idea that small tubes and low flow, which some german watercooling manufactures have been poisining minds with for years now is completely false. If you dont believe me ask around here or anyone you might happen to know with a physics degree.
Don't bother Maxxx, it's not worth it... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxxxRacer
This is my first setup. It's with the free after rebate ultra wizard mid-tower. Case is a little nicked up even though I masking taped everything because I'm a complete noob at any type of physical work. I used a 4.5" holesaw and smoked up my old power drill trying.
Components:
Apogee, DDC2 + Petra's top, MCW60, zalman ramsinks for 7900gs, thermalright hr05 nb heatsink, 7/16 masterkleer, mc microres, coolingworks coolrad 22t, 4 yate sl's in push/pull intake for rad.
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5...ture001in6.jpg
Honestly, I can see why this case was free after rebate. Initial fiddling showed the case as decent. But once you get involved, you quickly realize all its shortcomings. It's hard to tell from the pictures, but the drive cages have room for 4 external 5.25, 3 external 3.5", and 2 internal 3.5". However, the front bezel only has room to implement 3 external 5.25" (2 of which get dominated by the rad setup), 1 3.5" external in a 5.25" caddy, and the rest all internal.
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7...ture002ph7.jpg
Here's a shot with the drive covers removed so you can get a better look. It looks like it's really close to the bottom, but there's about half an inch or a little more, and the airflow isn't all too bad. It turned out to be surprisingly well positioned. I didn't realize until after I was done that I only had a margin of error of about 1/2" front to back, without hitting the front rail or psu in the back. To get to the psu, the rad has to be removed, so hopefully the pos ultra 500w v power won't fail again too soon ;) (hey it was free after rebate!).
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2...ture003tx6.jpg
Here's the main shot. I had to make a notch in the lower left where the lip is for the side panel rails (done after picture was taken). It allows me to remove the motherboard without removing anything else, except for the rear 120mm exhaust. I had a hell of a time getting the brackets on the mc microres, and ended giving up and just using the velcro approach. It's actually more stable than I had imagined. Also, for the ddc, I drilled two holes for it, but then ended up rotating it 90 degrees, which obsoleted the holes. I ended up just using the adhesive neoprene pad it came with. Also, since the base panel of the ultra wizard isn't flat (what the hell!!!), it was a pain in the ass, but surprisingly, the neoprene was extremely flexible and adapted to it just fine.
I used the front barb on the rad for the cpu to avoid too sharp a turn. This meant that I had to use the inner barb to connect to the ddc. I hope it's not killing flow to the ram too much. Maybe I'll get those active ram coolers in the future.
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/4...ture008wc9.jpg
Nothing about watercooling in this shot, but something I picked up from some of your posts, and really liked the idea. Routing cables through back here really takes care of a lot of the mess!! I'm still thinking of 7volting the fans, which is why I haven't tied the wiring down a bit more yet. In a case like the ultra wizard, where it wasn't designed to have you route wires back there, the mobo tray lip comes up pretty much right to where the side panel would be. This makes closing the panel a little harder, but it's not really a problem.
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8...009halfyl9.jpg
Final pic of a closeup of the holes I made for the top. You can really see the scratches here, where I slipped once when I was drilling the first hole. I got a lot better on the second one, but both look similar in the picture. Rad is attached simply with 8 #6-32 1.5" screws going top down through the grill, case, fan, and into the rad. Bottom yates are attached with #6-32 1.25" screws.
here is a closeup of mine:
http://s2.supload.com/thumbs/default/_MG_2729.JPG
Quote:
Originally Posted by ATTA
idle 34
load 41
clocked at 650/1000, no volt mods, yet...
OK,here's mine.... say what you think..not so beautiful but works!
http://s97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...4/New%20WCool/
hi,
my watercooling system , without these big tubes ;) (my english is bad, i am german!):
http://666kb.com/i/akmau4qpo65ot2v31.jpg
http://666kb.com/i/akmaxt3f57p1o90il.jpg
http://666kb.com/i/akmax07gdn91n1gwt.jpg
http://666kb.com/i/ajr1ajjhd8hbgr596.jpg
I gotta say, something about really small tubing looks real nice
yeah but not to small , Tygon 11,2/8mm are perfect!Quote:
Originally Posted by ziddey
ziddy next time you got that case apart completly,,, spraypaint that sucka,,,, makes any case look pro.... inside black, outside is ok already,,,, nice jb n the mcmicro thats where i put mine
woo hoo, its nice to see all these "help need suggestions" threads and then see the rigs come out themselves weeks later. Wow, I wonder what mine will look like.
Woaw, Nice Rigs Guys!
PS: serialk11r, are you on Speed ? Lo0L! You replyed to all of the thread on Liquid cooling page... your 13 right ? J\k :slap:
I was thinking the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Patriote
@Hopper: I love how the graphics turned out. do you have a rear pic, to see how much case chopping was done?
EDIT: never mind, i followed the link
Thanks for the tip. But the front bezel is plastic and is pretty scratched up, along with the finish in general. It's really a free after rebate case, so I didn't care for it too much. Maybe I should have. But if I do ever get a halfway decent case, I was definitely take your suggestion into account.Quote:
Originally Posted by hopper
Also, just a curiousity question: I know computers weren't designed like cars and there's no need for it, but I couldn't help but notice that the chassis more or less becomes common ground. Maybe there could be whatever advantages to that? I'm trying to think up ideas still. But when painted, it'd be obviously insulated and out of the question
As for serial, keep it up man. It reminds me of a time when I was 13. You're doing good (or well if you prefer ;))
i didnt paint my removable mb tray or the rails it slides on,, just tape off the mb area if you want beforQuote:
but notice that the chassis more or less becomes common ground.
smopoim86,,,, click the link under the pic i talk about how i did it... a few pics ..... hit me up if you want to see any part of it
Quote:
Originally Posted by hopper
I stared at that picture for a good 5 minutes wondering why you had a videocard block mounted vertially... and then wondered where your videocard was. How did you do that? I notice a cable there going from the slot to the card's contacts... never seen that before. Awesome, very unique.
Polizei ... check out the link to see the pics of how i did it,,, it was very very easy i only cut 2 things drilled 2 small holes and the pci extension was 55$
have a nice day
hot fifty ... is that case as big as it looks in the pic... wow
Haha, I just really love posting for some reason. When I get a chance I just sit down and take off. And if you noticed, not a lot of my posts are BSish spam. I just feel like sharing my knowledge, and I do this everywhere I go, so I think you guys know what they think of me:D I don't mind, I mean helping people out just feels like the right thing to do. I helped 2 people at school get their rigs together but they ended up getting SH*T stuff because they're not very smart. One guy I gave a sheet with a full system recommendation, and his dad decided to go to fry's, pick up a e6600 and a 7900gs but guess what? some super sh*tty 80 dollar ram that the guy didn't know what it was called. An ECS Elitegroup motherboard (I was laughing really hard at this one), and OMFG thermaltake watercooling. I was like gomfg dude, wtf is wrong with you. He's like "I got a good case, it was 40 bucks and its plastic". which is stupid. The other dude I helped out earlier, and he got a mobo with integrated graphics and a x2 3800 and he claimed his computer was good... Anyways, nice rigs guys, and like ya, I think I have to cut down on the crazy posting. I have this "computer programming" class at school but its all BS and the teacher doesn't know anything about programming, so its FREE TIME!!! Some people play halo (yes, halo at school on macintoshes) and I do a couple posts, take a look at some stuff here and there:D Hopper, I really like that ribbon cable mod thing! And I think we all have to admit but german wcing systems with small tubes look really nice. I guess that's the principle thermaltake crap is built on: cheapness and looks first, performance last:D In every review of thermaltake WCing I have ever seen, all of them said it looked hella nice, but very few said it performed well:D Even their coolant, which actually performed very well, as one review put it, "glowed the most obnoxiously". I laugh at thermaltake. Seems like they're more into cosmetics for PCs rather than anything else.
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...h_DSC01206.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...h_DSC01224.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...h_DSC01229.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...h_DSC01241.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...h_DSC01253.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...h_DSC01256.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...h_DSC01272.jpg
That is what I have so far. I will finish up my loop tonight and start leak testing.
Looks pretty good, James!
Good Luck!
thx a lot. Yeah that case is big but nice for H2OQuote:
Originally Posted by hopper
hey hot_fifty whats case is that? looks like a thermaltake am i right.
and sir could we see some daytime photos too, night shots are allways nice
but i for one whould really like to see more of your rig.
nice Solarfall. Can I not send you some pics on MSN Messenger or what ever U use. Easier for me.. Thanks..
BTW: It a TT Mozart TX (20kg without WC and HW, just the case) :banana::banana::banana::banana:
Quote:
Originally Posted by hot_fifty
sure you can,:) but i think that other folks here as XS whould like to see those photos too. and thats a pretty heavy case you have there, mine weighs only 25kg:ish with all the wc gear in side.:toast:
Very nice... Ive been wanting to paint the inside of my Tsunami black for the longest time, but I have no way to do that when Im at college. What additive are you using?
it not usng any addative, the water is some alphacool uvblue TEC protect stuff...
and its very nice.
Very Clean set-up there Mankz! I like the look of the Tubing! How do you like that Hyper Psu ? I used to have one, loved it :D
pretty build...mankz
tbh, i hate my hiper PSU... i got a duff one, and the only way i can get my PC to boot is using two psu's..
ive had it rma'ed and it should be back home today, but, i'll put up some more piccyes with the side panel ect. on....
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...y/P1060002.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...y/P1060003.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...y/P1060004.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...y/P1060007.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...y/P1060008.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...y/P1060009.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...y/P1060011.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...y/P1060012.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...y/P1060016.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...y/P1060017.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...y/P1060018.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...y/P1060022.jpg
(during the build phase..)
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...w/P1070026.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...w/P1070030.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...w/P1070031.jpg
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http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...w/P1070033.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...w/P1070037.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...w/P1070041.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...w/P1070043.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...w/P1070045.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...w/P1070046.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...w/P1070048.jpg
I adore this powder-coated stuff.....
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...w/P1080058.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...w/P1080059.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...w/P1080060.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...w/P1080061.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...w/P1080062.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...w/P1080063.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...w/P1080064.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...w/P1080065.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...w/P1080067.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...w/P1080068.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...w/P1080070.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...w/P1080071.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...w/P1080072.jpg
Pretty sweet Bud ;)
So, you got the PSU back and working correctly ?
By-the-way, what case is that ?
10$ says its a chieftech case or copy.
yep, Chieftec Dragon Midi, powder-coated in Satin Black with about %40 gloss...
im at home know, and im about to start ze testing aswell.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mankz_91
:D I have one. But mine is all white. If ever I get to finishing it, I will post it here. I was working on a College team theme for the case, for my gf, as it is her school.
problems are continuing however with the PSU/s
and still no proper b00ting.
Are you 100% sure it's because of the PSU ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mankz_91
and what do you mean by "proper boot" ?
nothing works now.
no boot to BIOS, the psu won't run the pump when it also powering the mobo ect.
im sooo f**ked off i really do feel like throwing the entire thing into the bin.
I do feel like that too when im building things and nothing works... Do you have another PSU so you can test out if it's the PSU that make your comp not to post ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mankz_91
sounds like mobo bad mobo to me
Mankz_91, what kind of resirvoir do u have and does it fit in one 5.25in. bay?
Hey, its a Repack 5.25" Lexan res..
its made from black lexan with some nice acrylic on the front, and comes with a UV LED.
The only issue is that it doesn't hold so much water, so takes a little while longer than some of the larger res's to bleed...
Wow, this is exactly why everyone needs dye and a UV light. It makes things a million times more kickass.
this is my mod! search my tread for all the case:)
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/1...ht05vq7.th.jpg
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/5...ht07vp0.th.jpg
A few more pictures:
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...h_DSC01343.jpg
Testing the loop
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...h_DSC01361.jpg
Lights and action
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...h_DSC01359.jpg
um, lights and action in the dark
Damn nice pic there!Quote:
Originally Posted by funkflix
yes, love the flat blocks :)
Hey hey James, pretty nice set-up! :D
Love that Stacker 830!
that's one damn nasty air boble you have there, ( between the gpu block>pump)
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...7/DSC01343.jpg
i whould have done the tubing little bit differently, but other that that really nice looking wc rig. :toast:
Solarfall, is that your 8800gtx in there?
Looks like an OCZ 8800GTX :)
not my rig in the pic. Its JamesTX10 case;) i have a stacker STC-T01, it's still undercontruction blaah:wth:Quote:
Originally Posted by teko
Quote:
Originally Posted by linflas
Nice work Linflas. Now if only you would let me in that case with some cable ties and electric tape... :toast:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Solarfall
That was with the pump off as I was still filling the loop. NO air in it now.
Well since I havebeen looking at these forums quite a bit, I figured I would contribute.
This is my 2nd project system. First PC I put together was a couple months ago, and it seems I was just not happy with it, so I got a few more parts, and a new case, and this is the result.
Wires have been cleaned up a bit, but I amstill pretty new to WCing as well as building a PC in general. Feel free to critique, and toss some tips my way.
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/2...1783nn9.th.jpg
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4...1782do7.th.jpg
http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/1...1788bu2.th.jpg
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/1...1787hm3.th.jpg
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/4...1756ju1.th.jpg
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/1...1759cc4.th.jpg
I like the colors... theres just something about UV blue and black.
Im curious as to why you put watercooling on your chipset before your videocards. Passive on the videocards? :confused:
I get that question a lot. Here is why:Quote:
Originally Posted by Polizei
1. I hate Asus chipset fans. They go out...and go out whining.
2. This was my first real attempt at WCing...and putting a PC together, so I wanted to keep it simple.
3. I didnt want to buy 2 blocks and then change cards and they become useless.
4. I LOVE the way the passive HS look...and they work great too.
:)
I will agree, Thermalright makes a nice heatsink... got the SI-120 and HR-05 myself.
If you got the MCW60 blocks for your videocards, assuming theyre a GeForce 7 series, once you got the 8 series card, you just get the G80 mounting plate thats that.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Polizei
That, sir, I did not know. I have the 2 7950GT's right now...maybe that will be my next project. But...I would hate to loose the neat look of those heatsinks for more hoses ;)
Blocks by Mips for my Asus P5W DH Deluxe:
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/gallery/data/500/DSC06193.jpg
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/gallery/data/500/DSC06194.jpg
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/gallery/data/500/DSC06196.jpg
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/gallery/data/500/DSC06197.jpg
And my new Tubing:
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/gallery/data/500/DSC06199.jpg
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/gallery/data/500/DSC06200.jpg
The Hardware:
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/gallery/data/500/DSC06147.jpg
Some Pics of my 2nd Sys, not yet finished:
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/gallery/data/500/DSC06178.jpg
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/gallery/data/500/DSC06176.jpg
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/gallery/data/500/DSC06175.jpg
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/gallery/data/500/DSC06165.jpg
more Pics of mine, you can see in my Gallery:
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/gallery/sh...=22244&cat=500
Wow, very clean set up!
:slobber:
very nice setup MFloX, seems like a very restrictive block there, hope i performs well, very clean work 'me like' :D
p.s. OMG that CPU isn't lapped, what's the contact without lapping it? is it concave, might wanna check it out?
sry I did not want to make a new thread but maybe someone can answer me since it has to do with case situation. In this setup the pump is mounted next to the reservoir.
http://www.swiftnets.com/assets/imag...letesystem.gif
http://www.swiftnets.com/assets/imag...dimensions.gif
But I've heard it's better to mount the pump at the bottom most of the case. So how could it work next to the reservoir?
This is much more convenient for me because my hard drive cage is mounted so it blocks a pump from being stored down there. Or does anyone have any suggestions for where the pump should be located. It's an ultra aluminus but I am looking at a gigabyte aurora 3d.
sry again I am a watercooling novice and I guess this has to do with cases.
Still waiting for my fittings..... :rolleyes:
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/gallery/data/500/DSC06202.jpg
MFloX,
Where did you get that mounting bracket for your pump?
Nice looking setup.
DE
I took this last week off and put together my new rig. I have to give thanks and credit to Theorie and his rig. I have totally stolen and used his ideas to my benefit. :D Enjoy the pics...
Here's my original setup in a Silverstone TJ06 case.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18...n/IMG_0487.jpg
It was a good case but airflow in the top chamber was really bad. Only ventilation was my psu. And, as you can see, I was using most available space.
Here's the new setup in a Silverstone TJ07 case.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18...n/IMG_0502.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18...n/IMG_0503.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18...n/IMG_0506.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18...n/IMG_0508.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18...n/IMG_0495.jpg
My dirty ass burner all stealthed out. It's amazing what the camera picks up.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18...n/IMG_0492.jpg
My cleverly hidden mess of wires. Fans are all controlled with the the TBan BigNG. BEST fan controller ever!!!
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18...n/IMG_0494.jpg
Pretty happy with the way it turned out. Took more work to get everything the way I wanted than I thought it would, but that's ok. It was fun. This case is great to work in and on. Everything is screwed together. There are only a couple rivets in the whole thing. So, it makes it real easy to pull something off and mod it if needed.
Specs are in sig :cool:
I bet someone is going to comment on the 90 degree barbs...
I used to run two 90* barbs. They really did hurt flow. Not TERRIBLY but they hurt it enough.
Try blowing through one, then through a straight barb. You'll be like, "wow, that really is restrictive."
Some guy calculated that a 90 degree barb was like adding an extra foot of tubing. I think its more than that though. Its important to not have sharp bends and 90 degree barbs, because they will cause turbulence and restriction.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickS
You just had to say something didn't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by serialk11r
Bah!! I've run those barbs on that res now in 3 different setups. Never noticed a difference from when I was running straight barbs. Also, I just installed a Fuzion wb and my flow has increased dramatically. So much flow now my res makes too much noise. Any more flow and the noise would be intolerable.
Temps are at 37c idle and 53c load @ 1.425v in bios, 1.38v in CPUZ, with 4 instances of SP2004. I think I can live with a couple 90's on the loop.
@Sideroxylon: why not put some window and lights there, it would look much cooler :D (P.S. TJ07 is my favorite case, props for getting it ;) )
I might put a window in the side but not so much for looks as for functionality. My last setup ended up developing a leak that I didn't find for weeks due to not being able to see inside the case. I'm going for the 'clean and sleek' look not the 'look at me I got bling' look. We'll see how it works out. As with all of my rigs, it's a work in progress.Quote:
Originally Posted by marauder16
Thanks for the comments
you can have a clean and sleek look along with the 'bling factor' and functionality you know ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sideroxylon
I actually really really like that setup you have there. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by cursivearmy1
Quote:
Originally Posted by dedwards
Thx, itīs selfmade :)
mflox, where did you get that aero cool fan with the silver blades, how much, and do you like it?
Would it be harmful to mount the rad sideways?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spawne32
Like this sketch
http://weboperative.com/OCIDB/osamab...+/sketch22.JPG
Be cause the Gigabyte 3d aurora has holes cut like that and it would just make everything cleaner and easier.
I can't wait till my h20 stuff and case get here.
Nope it'll be fine. You can mount a rad any way you'd like :)
Itīs an Aerocool SilverLightning:Quote:
Originally Posted by Spawne32
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/51...6c15s518#blank
I see, that theyīre really expensive in America, here i bought them for about 7/Fan. They look really great in action, an are very silent, too. Here some more impressions:
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/gallery/data/500/DSC06147.jpg
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/gallery/data/500/DSC04097.jpg
Whoa, how the hell did you get the gpu-mosfet hose to turn like that?? Looks entirely unnatural. Very nice
It looks really like thermaltake... not good. The res, its just so, thermaltake...Quote:
Originally Posted by chensen78
I'm not trying to take anything away from your pc but a kick ass camera clearly helps!Quote:
Originally Posted by MFloX
wicked picks!
Yes it does!! Wow that's a nice camera!
Wow that silver aerocool is aweseme. :slobber:
Quick question: Yateloon vs Aerocool?
I gotta buy some fans for my triple rad.
Thx, Guys :)Quote:
Originally Posted by matt100
A good camera helps you to take great photos, but the best cam doesnīs help an bad photograph ;)
sideroxylon, I think 90s are death in your situation because they look like CRAP!!! Seriously get rid of them, it ruins the awesomeness!
LOL. Killing the flow is one thing but looking bad is entirely different. I don't think I'm going to get rid of them though. It makes routing the tubing so much easier. I do wish I could find some chrome 90's but last time I checked I couldn't find any. Maybe I could paint them black or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by serialk11r
Thanks for the comments!!