Dual Core Opteron Thread #2

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Originally Posted by mursaat

That's exactly where I am (2952 with 1.5v on BIOS) but still not stable. What did you do to get it stable? I'm with TTBT too, but load temps get to 52c and that's the problem IMO. Do you think removing the IHS will help? Core 0 is the wearker, core1 can bench at 340x9. With my last 165 temps dropped 5-6c, exactly what I need :D

I've been a bit lazy lately (very little spare time) so I'm running the chip 334x9 with 1.525v. I can bench, surf, do anything but prime. I think with normal use the chip doesn't get so hot so I get no errors. So sign me as another member of the no-prime club :D If I think how many hours I've lost getting something prime-stable... I don't bother anymore. Prime Small FFTs for 30 minutes, and if it works, I lower HTT 2-3 mhz and that's my 24/7 :slap:

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Key for me was lowering my ambient temps from around 80F to 70F.
I just leave the window open all the time in my computer room with a fan sucking the hot air out. Gets to around 64-66F at Night and around 72-74 during the day.

I wont pop the IHS on this chip until 2 things happen. 1 I buy a complete watercooling setup.. 2.. The warrenty runs out from Monarch.

Im a tad disappointed that I cant get my memory stable at a 166 divider (268) I had to back it down to a 150 divider (246) and tightened up the timings a bit.

Went from 28.641s to around 28.9 in SPI 1M. Guess I have to trade off for memory stabiltiy. It passed 32M with flying colors at 150 Divider.

My opti 165 is dual prime stable at 2900 @ 1.4 V with 2.5-3-3-6 timings @204 mhz. I get around 32s in SPI 1m.

I know, my ram sux, and my mobo sux, because it has :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty divider settings (only 100,133,166,200).

I also think if the chip is dual prime stable for 20-30 minutes, it will be stable for anything.

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Originally Posted by Spazilton

Key for me was lowering my ambient temps from around 80F to 70F.
I just leave the window open all the time in my computer room with a fan sucking the hot air out. Gets to around 64-66F at Night and around 72-74 during the day.

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sheesh man, no air conditioning?

i keep my entire house 68-71*F all day, anything above 72-73*F and i feel horrible

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Originally Posted by nobody_here

sheesh man, no air conditioning?

i keep my entire house 68-71*F all day, anything above 72-73*F and i feel horrible

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its called a power bill
8)
my house sometimes gets up to 81f upstairs..and thats where my computer is at. its a good test for stability. :)

i do turn on the a/c if it gets above 85f outside though.

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Originally Posted by nobody_here

sheesh man, no air conditioning?

i keep my entire house 68-71*F all day, anything above 72-73*F and i feel horrible

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I have it but I don't really use it unless its hot outside. I grew up without it so it really doesn't bother me.

And yea I'm trying to enjoy a coulpe of months of fairly low electric bills.

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Originally Posted by Spazilton

Key for me was lowering my ambient temps from around 80F to 70F.
I just leave the window open all the time in my computer room with a fan sucking the hot air out. Gets to around 64-66F at Night and around 72-74 during the day.

I wont pop the IHS on this chip until 2 things happen. 1 I buy a complete watercooling setup.. 2.. The warrenty runs out from Monarch.

Im a tad disappointed that I cant get my memory stable at a 166 divider (268) I had to back it down to a 150 divider (246) and tightened up the timings a bit.

Went from 28.641s to around 28.9 in SPI 1M. Guess I have to trade off for memory stabiltiy. It passed 32M with flying colors at 150 Divider.

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Thanks for the input. If I open the window temps rise up to 26c (dunno in F). I think I'll remove the IHS and see what happens, as my chip is retail from ebay so no warranty. It helped with my 0551.

That's why I love my BH-5, I run 246-250 2-2-2-5 1T. The bad side is I need 3.3v -> PWMIC and case temps are higher.

Spazilton, nice job working that chip up to 2.952Ghz! I just read through your thread from last month about it.

Here's a CBB1E 0608 that I got from Monarch a few weeks ago. On water cool.

Prime stable for 6 hours so far. Core 0 failed prime at 1.328V so I bumped it to 1.344.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...e/untitled.jpg

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Originally Posted by cambrian

Here's a CBB1E 0608 that I got from Monarch a few weeks ago. On water cool.

Prime stable for 6 hours so far. Core 0 failed prime at 1.328V so I bumped it to 1.344.

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I got the same chip, and went to 2844 on stock volts. Let us see, how much will yours do :)

CCB1E 0609 FPMW
Monarch OEM, ordered last week.
http://haste.4saken.org/pics/165/060...customlowr.jpg

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Originally Posted by mursaat

That's exactly where I am (2952 with 1.5v on BIOS) but still not stable. What did you do to get it stable? I'm with TTBT too, but load temps get to 52c and that's the problem IMO. Do you think removing the IHS will help? Core 0 is the wearker, core1 can bench at 340x9. With my last 165 temps dropped 5-6c, exactly what I need :D

I've been a bit lazy lately (very little spare time) so I'm running the chip 334x9 with 1.525v. I can bench, surf, do anything but prime. I think with normal use the chip doesn't get so hot so I get no errors. So sign me as another member of the no-prime club :D If I think how many hours I've lost getting something prime-stable... I don't bother anymore. Prime Small FFTs for 30 minutes, and if it works, I lower HTT 2-3 mhz and that's my 24/7 :slap:

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I am in 100% agreement with you man. I've said it before and i stand by it, prime fails because it gets hotter than everything else. Priming for extended periods of time gets to be wasteful because after an initial stability check, it pretty much becomes temp limited. I've seen 1-2 degrees make the difference between priming for 10 minutes and priming for over an hour.

I notice when i prime past stability point and get too hot, stuff fails, even FireFox locks up for a few seconds and i have to go play with task manager. Without prime, but at the same speed, it's like 10c cooler, i imagine if it were loading at that temp (say 33c) it would be totally stable there. Only the heat generated from priming makes things fail :)

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Originally Posted by haste

CCB1E 0609 FPMW
Monarch OEM, ordered last week.
http://haste.4saken.org/pics/165/060...customlowr.jpg

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What desktop theme is that if you dont mind me asking.

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Originally Posted by Malkec

I got the same chip, and went to 2844 on stock volts. Let us see, how much will yours do :)

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Hmm, 2.84 on stock volts? Is that prime stable for hours?
I guess I got a dud for a 0608.

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Originally Posted by Absolute_0

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I am in 100% agreement with you man. I've said it before and i stand by it, prime fails because it gets hotter than everything else. Priming for extended periods of time gets to be wasteful because after an initial stability check, it pretty much becomes temp limited. I've seen 1-2 degrees make the difference between priming for 10 minutes and priming for over an hour.

I notice when i prime past stability point and get too hot, stuff fails, even FireFox locks up for a few seconds and i have to go play with task manager. Without prime, but at the same speed, it's like 10c cooler, i imagine if it were loading at that temp (say 33c) it would be totally stable there. Only the heat generated from priming makes things fail :)

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Exactly! With my comp usage (surf, movie play and gaming) the CPU never gets so stressed. Of course it will hang someday some way, but I don't bother. I'm not coding for the NASA (and we got used to random hangs thanks to Windows :D).

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Originally Posted by Absolute_0

I notice when i prime past stability point and get too hot, stuff fails, even FireFox locks up for a few seconds and i have to go play with task manager. Without prime, but at the same speed, it's like 10c cooler, i imagine if it were loading at that temp (say 33c) it would be totally stable there. Only the heat generated from priming makes things fail :)

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isn't that the point of using prime to stability test? to find the maximum stability under the most demanding loads? or did i totally miss your point?

My point is that just about nothing but prime will give the "Most demanding loads" so running it for more than like 30 minutes is a waste. I can game forever at speeds that fail prime, because the only reason prime fails is due to heat, and no game gets as hot.

Right now, i'm running at 3 Ghz with 1.45v, it takes 1.48v to be stable here. Prime fails in 5 minutes. But i've been folding all night... it's been running strong for the last 12 hours.

The only reason i prime for more than 30 minutes is because people b1tch when i post 30 minutes of prime.

right, i agree with you. but what about when prime fails after like 7 hours and the temperature hasn't changed in the last 6 hours?

by the way, check out this ss from my 0604TPMW last night....

Hello ppl. Mine 165 CCB1E 0609FPBW with a 63oC maxTcase is running very HOT. And as you see its standard Vcore here. Look at the pics below. I have a custom watercooling system as you see below. 1rst pic is without tha fans installed. Anyway i have a way high PWMIC temperature whicj worries me the most. In the same system i used an 146 running at 2950 and it idles 26-27 temp with the radiator fans turning at 600RPm only. Load temp is around 42. SO MUCH DIFFERENCE;;;;

http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/3...ker21tw.th.jpg

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/4...ker31hn.th.jpg

http://img308.imageshack.us/img308/1821/pump7dn.th.jpg

:welcome: to the forums!

Yes, Dual Cores tend to run around 10c hotter!

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Originally Posted by itznfb

right, i agree with you. but what about when prime fails after like 7 hours and the temperature hasn't changed in the last 6 hours?

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Even a fraction of a degree can do it. I notice sometimes i'll prime and it fails. Open up the window, just a minute later while smartguardian still reads basically the same temps, it will prime longer. **Pretty much only applies to coldbugged Opterons at high speeds.

Man, the MSI software is soooo messed up lol. I remember on my K8N Neo Platty it used to say my 3200+ Newcastle was loading at 64c : /

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Originally Posted by itznfb

by the way, check out this ss from my 0604TPMW last night....

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well they may tend to...but definately i cant come to this conclusion reading other peoples posts around here.

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Originally Posted by Absolute_0

My point is that just about nothing but prime will give the "Most demanding loads" so running it for more than like 30 minutes is a waste. I can game forever at speeds that fail prime, because the only reason prime fails is due to heat, and no game gets as hot.

Right now, i'm running at 3 Ghz with 1.45v, it takes 1.48v to be stable here. Prime fails in 5 minutes. But i've been folding all night... it's been running strong for the last 12 hours.

The only reason i prime for more than 30 minutes is because people b1tch when i post 30 minutes of prime.

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yeah some pple can be b1tches. :D

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Originally Posted by Mastactor

those getting from monarch this and last week,
when did you order?
and what did you order? the oem, or retail box with fan?

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I ordered mine 4/18 and it was the OEM, the coupon didn't work with the retail.