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03-12-2007, 12:20 PM
JoeBar

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Originally Posted by geof

first i would recommand you to take a E6300 with N650i because E4300 seems to have problems with it.
MSI one is a good mb with less vdroop but for what i saw on french forums heatsink on nb is not very good and sometimes not well attached ... :(
FSB holes appear in each mb so it's the same ...
Maybe P5N-E SLI can go higher in fsb when you're lucky and find a good one :)

Would u care to elaborate this? I'm thinking of getting a P5N-E along with a 4300 for my 2nd system.
03-12-2007, 12:42 PM
PanteraGSTK

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Originally Posted by JoeBar

Would u care to elaborate this? I'm thinking of getting a P5N-E along with a 4300 for my 2nd system.

A e6300 is not much more and you will have an easy time ocing it.
03-12-2007, 01:56 PM
geof

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Originally Posted by PanteraGSTK

I'm going to keep it. I did the vdroop mod, but still get about .02v droop under heaviest load. I'm going to redo it and see if it helps. I have it stable at 3548mhz right now and am happy. The vdroop mod really helped my stability wise. I still haven't found what vcore I need for stability, more testing to come. I'm thinking about doing a NB vmod. I think the 1.75v limit is holding back my fsb clocking. Stable at 507fsb now. I'm thinking of getting a stiker extreme after playing with this board. I've always liked Nvidia chipsets, and I am going to make many htpc so this one won't go to waste. That board will be further on down the road though. Let's see how high I can get this one before I change anything. I'm going to get a xeon 3060 to play with and hopefully a phase unit, so I won't need a new board for a while.:toast:

great :woot:
so vcore mod gives you more stability ? it's normal if your vcore is more linear ...
With more vcmh you think this mb can go higher ? 507 stable is a nice fsb ! :clap:
03-12-2007, 01:59 PM
geof

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeBar

Would u care to elaborate this? I'm thinking of getting a P5N-E along with a 4300 for my 2nd system.

for what i saw , there're problems with E4300 and this mb, fsb holes ( which appears with others cpu it seems :( ) , cold boot issue ...
And the E4300 fsb wall near 370/380 fsb ( more for some ) is really annoying
03-12-2007, 10:11 PM
zeeke

The FSB walls on this mobo istnt CPU related, its chipset related. That is the effect of hard encoded Nb-straps.
03-13-2007, 04:41 AM
PanteraGSTK

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Originally Posted by zeeke

The FSB walls on this mobo istnt CPU related, its chipset related. That is the effect of hard encoded Nb-straps.

That's a good reason not to pair it with a 4300 yet.
03-13-2007, 04:46 AM
PanteraGSTK

Quote:

Originally Posted by geof

great :woot:
so vcore mod gives you more stability ? it's normal if your vcore is more linear ...
With more vcmh you think this mb can go higher ? 507 stable is a nice fsb ! :clap:

Thanks. Yes, it did increase stability, but voltage still fluxuated about .02v. I erased yesterday and re-penciled it and it isn't as stable now. Am I doing something wron? I saw your voltage graph and it was flat, what did you do to get NO droop at all?

As for vcmh, yes I think if it had more voltage I could get higher. I think that is the reason most everyone tops this board out at 510fsb. 507fsb is very stable, but orthos blend fails still. At 500fsb EVERYTHING is stable, finally. I still want zero droop and won't be happy (or 24hr blend stable) until I get zero droop.
03-13-2007, 05:38 AM
geof

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeeke

The FSB walls on this mobo istnt CPU related, its chipset related. That is the effect of hard encoded Nb-straps.

no, the E4300 fsb wall is a cpu pb not a nb strap one, you'll see this wall as well on P965,975X,RD600 ....
03-13-2007, 05:43 AM
geof

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Originally Posted by PanteraGSTK

Thanks. Yes, it did increase stability, but voltage still fluxuated about .02v. I erased yesterday and re-penciled it and it isn't as stable now. Am I doing something wron? I saw your voltage graph and it was flat, what did you do to get NO droop at all?

As for vcmh, yes I think if it had more voltage I could get higher. I think that is the reason most everyone tops this board out at 510fsb. 507fsb is very stable, but orthos blend fails still. At 500fsb EVERYTHING is stable, finally. I still want zero droop and won't be happy (or 24hr blend stable) until I get zero droop.

i just did the pencil mod with a 2HB pencil, i made several links.
500 fsb stable is a excellent result however :clap:
03-13-2007, 07:09 AM
PanteraGSTK

Quote:

Originally Posted by geof

i just did the pencil mod with a 2HB pencil, i made several links.
500 fsb stable is a excellent result however :clap:

I wonder what you did that I didn't do? You get ZERO droop and I still have some (.02v). What do you mean by links? Strokes?
03-13-2007, 12:36 PM
JoeBar

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Originally Posted by PanteraGSTK

A e6300 is not much more and you will have an easy time ocing it.

Indeed, however the ram i have on my 2nd system probably won't go as high as a 6300 needs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by geof

for what i saw , there're problems with E4300 and this mb, fsb holes ( which appears with others cpu it seems :( ) , cold boot issue ...
And the E4300 fsb wall near 370/380 fsb ( more for some ) is really annoying

370/380mhz fsb for a 4300 means about 3.4ghz which is more likely cpu related.
03-13-2007, 12:48 PM
PanteraGSTK

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Originally Posted by JoeBar

Indeed, however the ram i have on my 2nd system probably won't go as high as a 6300 needs.

370/380mhz fsb for a 4300 means about 3.4ghz which is more likely cpu related.

This board will do lower memory dividers. I ran my 6300 at 500mhz fsb and my mem at 266mhz, so that isn't a problem with this board. But that's up to you.

Sounds like you know what you want. The next thing I'd do is start a thread asking what boards 4300 users are having sucess with. I don't think there are that many of us using the p5n-e sli so I don't know if anyone has a 4300 and this board. Hope everything works out for you.
03-13-2007, 12:58 PM
JoeBar

Quote:

Originally Posted by PanteraGSTK

This board will do lower memory dividers. I ran my 6300 at 500mhz fsb and my mem at 266mhz, so that isn't a problem with this board. But that's up to you.

Sounds like you know what you want. The next thing I'd do is start a thread asking what boards 4300 users are having sucess with. I don't think there are that many of us using the p5n-e sli so I don't know if anyone has a 4300 and this board. Hope everything works out for you.

I know about 650i's capability of lower mem dividers, but i'm not used to this and most likely will look for new ram next week... :p:

I've found this post, but i don't know about stability or specific probs.
I'm going to place an order tomorrow and maybe i'm going the 6300 way cause i haven't got time to investigate it.
03-13-2007, 04:36 PM
geof

Quote:

Originally Posted by PanteraGSTK

I wonder what you did that I didn't do? You get ZERO droop and I still have some (.02v). What do you mean by links? Strokes?

yes several strikes :D
do this and check under occt your vdroop, add some strikes if you still have it ...
03-13-2007, 04:40 PM
geof

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeBar

I know about 650i's capability of lower mem dividers, but i'm not used to this and most likely will look for new ram next week... :p:

I've found this post, but i don't know about stability or specific probs.
I'm going to place an order tomorrow and maybe i'm going the 6300 way cause i haven't got time to investigate it.

as Pantera said N650i allows you to use lower mem dividers so it will work but of course with good D9 chips you'll get a good performance increase :p:

I saw several E4300 with P5N-E SLI on french forums, i try to find you some screens ...
03-13-2007, 04:56 PM
geof

here they're :D

- E4300 with P5N-E SLI aircooling Noctua NH-U12
http://www.hiboox.com/image.php?img=75c96a2c.jpg
the same guy but with less vcore ( 1,5v )
http://www.hiboox.com/image.php?img=5496534d.jpg

- E4300/P5N-E SLI aircooling Scythe Ninja Plus
http://www.hiboox.com/image.php?img=d20b44c2.gif#gd

I hope it can help you ;)
03-13-2007, 05:39 PM
lionheart

Quote:

Originally Posted by PanteraGSTK

I wonder what you did that I didn't do? You get ZERO droop and I still have some (.02v). What do you mean by links? Strokes?

Could you give me some bios setting thanks
03-13-2007, 05:41 PM
PanteraGSTK

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Originally Posted by lionheart

Could you give me some bios setting thanks

What are you asking exactly?
03-13-2007, 07:19 PM
lionheart

What is the NB Volt, vdimm and vcore
03-14-2007, 01:18 AM
geof

you can go high with 1.568V vcmh ( nearly 500 fsb ) if you want to push it a little more you have 1,7v but you really need to cool the nb ;)
03-14-2007, 04:44 AM
PanteraGSTK

Quote:

Originally Posted by geof

you can go high with 1.568V vcmh ( nearly 500 fsb ) if you want to push it a little more you have 1,7v but you really need to cool the nb ;)

I had to use 1.7v for vcmh to get to 500mhz fsb or over. Under 500fsb I could use 1.568v. I have an HR-05 SLI on my NB though, stock it would overheat and be very unstable with 1.568v. I have 1.45v selected for my cpu and 2.35v for ram. I have done a vdroop mod and that helped my stability greatly. Anything else?
03-14-2007, 06:58 AM
lionheart

Quote:

Originally Posted by PanteraGSTK

I had to use 1.7v for vcmh to get to 500mhz fsb or over. Under 500fsb I could use 1.568v. I have an HR-05 SLI on my NB though, stock it would overheat and be very unstable with 1.568v. I have 1.45v selected for my cpu and 2.35v for ram. I have done a vdroop mod and that helped my stability greatly. Anything else?

Oke very well. I will set to 1.7v for vcmh. I used an 8x8 fan for NB. Are you think that is oke for NB? I have done a vdrood mod too, it is increased 0.02v in cpuz but when I have 1.500v selected for my cpu and run SP2004 stress cpu it is only 1.47 :((
03-14-2007, 07:06 AM
|3ourne

i wonder if a BSEL1 modded e4300 will run better than the one that boots at 200mhz stock fsb ??? Someone wanna try that out ???
03-14-2007, 07:13 AM
PanteraGSTK

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Originally Posted by lionheart

Oke very well. I will set to 1.7v for vcmh. I used an 8x8 fan for NB. Are you think that is oke for NB? I have done a vdrood mod too, it is increased 0.02v in cpuz but when I have 1.500v selected for my cpu and run SP2004 stress cpu it is only 1.47 :((

The fan should help, but I've read that the actual heatsink on the NB is warped sometimes and it needs to be lapped smooth. A cheap NB hsf would do the trick if you don't want to lapp. But that is only if it is unstable, if not your fine. The 1.47v is about what I'm seeing under load if I set it to 1.5v. You should be fine as long as you don't have stability issues.
03-14-2007, 09:56 AM
lionheart

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Originally Posted by PanteraGSTK

The fan should help, but I've read that the actual heatsink on the NB is warped sometimes and it needs to be lapped smooth. A cheap NB hsf would do the trick if you don't want to lapp. But that is only if it is unstable, if not your fine. The 1.47v is about what I'm seeing under load if I set it to 1.5v. You should be fine as long as you don't have stability issues.

Thanks I think i will check my heatsink on the NB, Do you think about SB that need heatsink as NB?

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