im going to test them next on the new board:DQuote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
yea im good for 500fsb 1200 pl8 with 1.30v NB so far with this new board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don_Dan
this kit does 1300 with 2.25v real so far:D
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im going to test them next on the new board:DQuote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
yea im good for 500fsb 1200 pl8 with 1.30v NB so far with this new board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don_Dan
this kit does 1300 with 2.25v real so far:D
Thats really impressive- hard to find kits these days that even do 1300- the better if it needs only 2,25:D
you gor her brother:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by radaja
i be playin with the sister soon:rofl::ROTF:
thats real good2.25v 1300mhz:up:
heres a quick memtest shot.it would error out at 2.22v real so i moved it up a notch:D.
http://i53.tinypic.com/w175a9.jpg
well it looks like the lowest i can go at 500fsb 1200MHz PL8 is 1.30v NB.Quote:
Originally Posted by websmile
http://i52.tinypic.com/314yxkx.jpg
Would a Ballistix 2x512 8FD3 kit be any good? Seems like 16FD3 + 16FD5 are the ones to hit 1400+. Can't remember what serial my old 2x512 ballistix had, those would top ~1200. The kit I'm looking at now have the newer HS.
edit: At least I think this are the new style
http://www.auphanonline.com/articles...54_500x500.jpg
my old kit looked like this
http://www.prisjakt.nu/bilder/bild.p...&size=800&.jpg
Should run OK- the 8FD3 is just because the sticks got only 8 ICs- the 1GB modules got 16 because of double capacity- give it a try, should be D9G for sure^^
Yes it was D9GMH. No, they weren't good ;)
Too bad you are so far away from germany:p:- since I am selling a good kit of Ballistix PC2-8000 and some CS 8000 Cas4 that are doing 1300 Memtest stable under 2,2Volts:rofl:
P.S. Sad to hear the BallistiX su.. - friend of mine had the same kit that did at least 1280 C5 32M with 2,3Volts
Actually the best stick can do 570 4-4-4-4 32M @ 2.675 vdimm. Despite this I can't pass 600 5-5-5-15 :shrug:
The other stick is really bad, probably degraded.
Yeah, 1300 @ 2.2 will only be a dream for me :up:
Just remembered my Ballistix 1000 with DQT- sold earlier this year, no time for nostalgia :D
http://www.abload.de/thumb/d9dqt1000c432m222v3gzjq.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/crucialfb1kvln.jpg
I think I have finally found some good gmh's, anyone here having experience clocking ram with nvidia 780i sli chipset? I want to know if it's "real" frequencies :) My commando hates ram above 1200 so I'm not using it.. instead a crappy p5n-t dlx with 1100fsb and ram at 1200. Booted 4-4-4-12 1200 @ 2.63 but not stable.
Normally Ram-frequencies and Timings shown are correct- I had 780SLI as well, with some rams itīs a good clocker but not with all, sometimes compability su***. 2,63V boot 600 C4 is possible with good GMH, I tested one of my Crucial kits when I owned the XFX Tripöe SLI 780i for a short time and 550 4-4-4-10 @2,2V fully stable were no problem, and this was definitely not the max
As usual, against your ram I cannot compete! Gave up on the crappy nv chipset, I can run 560MHz on commando before I run out of fsb (crap cpu, E2160). Lowest stable 32m volt is 2.40 from bios, 4-4-4-4. No use for ddr2 anymore but I couldn't resist these sticks when I saw them for sale :)
I still love DDR2, but because itīs easier to cope with two DDR3-systems (compare and check) I sold my last DDR2-Board and all of my ram:( - got two kits left for backup for it is getting more difficult from day to day to get good kits, so Iīm the one out of competition :D. 2,4V for 560 C4 on Commando means your ram is good, so I think was a purchase worth the money :)
P.S. just for the record, I also had 4-4-410 with same V but canīt find the screen-chaos FTW:rofl:
http://www.abload.de/thumb/balistixn...m1100-znkd.jpg
Nice to see guys still pushing the DDR2 D9's :D Some of my best PC memories are with these kits.
I sold all my DDR2 boards and all but my very best kit of D9's - a Team Group PC6400 C3 kit. It sounds weird but I'd like to get these framed and hang them in the study.
this thread still alive ? :D:D:D I got some DDR2 last week, but no Board :D
comin soon
You mean Ram like this? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
http://www.abload.de/thumb/1m533.-2jpge4aj.jpg http://www.abload.de/thumb/af32m500-667-2z6dp.jpg
Team XTreem D2-800 C3-3-3-8 @ 2,2V on GA P45-UD3:hm: :D
Sold- I have two Ballistix Kits running better left, they are now rotting in my closet:rofl:
Ok this is the best I can do with these sticks given the cpus and mobo I've got. Doesnt scale with more than 2.60 vdimm.
http://imup.se/i/9xoLcptoSl.png
Max 32m stable on dirty OS.
http://imup.se/i/hPw7OLtWTb.png
Not my goal of 600 cl4 stable but it's good enough for me :yepp:
Same kit yes. My result HereQuote:
Originally Posted by websmile
I never pushed them harder, would have loved to do 32M at 690 MHz + but at 683 MHz I'm in a pretty small group of people who have done it.
I remember discussing with you perhaps a year or 2 ago what some of your best kits could do. They were just amazing, but my C3's were the best I ever had. Did DDR2-1200 MHz 5-5-5-15 at 1.91v IIRC.
Very nice, I'll give you a week before it wears you down and you make 600 CL4 heh ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Calathea
hi,
can anybody give me advice on where to buy 2x1GB DDR2 D9GMH/D9GKX ?
I sold all my old stuff long time ago and it seems that was a bad decision...
it is so hard to find any of those, yesterday missed the auction of 2x1GB Cell Shock 8000 (d9gkx) were sold for 32$ :(
Yeah hard to find now. I sold most of my kits for $30 each :( Had 2 Cellshock PC8000 CL4 GKX kits, one was only tested briefly and put back in the box too.
Keep your eye on forums and ebay, maybe put up a wanted to buy thread too. Good luck.
I bought 2x1GB D9GKX's this morning :)
i also found some 2x1GB Micron D9LPF chip. The seller is quite weird and has not much experience in OC but ensured that the rams goes easily over 1200MHz on def. voltage full stable (memtest)
Is anybody familiar with these sticks ?
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/7295/captureenj.th.jpg
This is the first time i hear about d9lpf's to be honest :D
D9LPF seems rare and untested. I doubt it performs as GMH/GKX, but hey try it out :) I remember a set of 2x512 elpida ddr2 sticks that did 1200 4-5-4. Maybe LPF can surprise too.
That's pretty nice, the Commando is still a great board. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Calathea
Do you have a "real" CPU so you can try to do this at 1:1?
Also, what's your Vmch for this run?
If they aren't expensive please buy them and report back!Quote:
Originally Posted by 71proste
I've never heard of these chips either, so it should be quite interesting to see how they overclock.
No unfortunately I've sold all cpus that can do 600fsb. I don't see any reason to bench s775 since sandy came :/ Vmch didn't seem to matter, kept it around 1.35. But dram ref voltage mattered a lot, sweet spot is -20mV on ch A, B.
Too bad! :(
40 eurosQuote:
Originally Posted by Don_Dan
I got the reply
1250MHz and timings like DDR3
anyway this is what he called stability
http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/8...pturegd.th.jpg
Unfortunatelly i am not going to buy :D
Good decision! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by 71proste
DDR2 714 cas5 on AIR !!
714mhz C5-5-5-35 2T Just have a look hommies
2x1024mb CRUCIAL Ballistix Tracer DDR2 PC8500 D9 gmh (16F17) on GA-EP45-UD3P with 2,6v :yepp:
http://www.kirikoo.net/images/1EeKy%...503-230048.jpg
A little preview of the BW :cool:
Excellent bandwith, by chance I got a new board friday and had a 1:2 Test-run with some ballistix I found in the closet^^- are these your old Tracers? They are far better than you said :)
http://www.abload.de/thumb/ballistix...2m224vapeb.jpg
should go & dig up my old 700Mhz valid...
who woulda thought OCZ made some decent D9 sticks :ROTF:
Suicide overclocks did that chip degrade overall with that vcore? Balis are great to bad they never made 2 gb sticks and only 1gb per stick.
Yeah it's the firsts Tracers but what you mean with "far better than I said" ? for CAS4 ? I need to check seriously sorry...Quote:
Originally Posted by websmile
Hey man the chip is under SS here, and it can bench easy at that speed ;) No suicide run in here, trust me ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Unsurper
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eeky NoX
I referred to this old post of yours- seems they sticks arenīt as bad as you thought thenQuote:
Originally Posted by Eeky NoX
Lol Sorry, you have a better memory than me :p I forget about this post last year.
No real improvement at last, the board isn't as good as the first one. Bw is high because of the CPU under SS and some tweaks on XP maybe...
So i've had a few kits of d9's for a while now, but never bothered to post here. Now i will.
Websmile seems to have the most amazing kits around, but i have a few that aren't too shabby.
EDIT: Updated with non-bugged divider, still 16fd5, 700mhz @2.54v for 32m, 2.4v for 1m.
Non-bugged divider run:
http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/a...zactual32m.jpg
Please check what I posted in the 700 MHz club thread! ;)
replied in the 700mhz club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don_Dan
I dont know what is rated GOOD speeds on these D9GKX ic's, but mine is now doing pretty well running spi 32M with 1200MHz 5-5-4-10 with 2.4volts bios showing :)
Gotta try how far i can pull these with 2.4v 5-5-5-15. How much voltages is still safe on spi runs?
1000MHz 4-4-4-8 was ok too, didnt try more yet.
Sticks is Buffalo Firestix rated 800Mhz 4-4-4-12
At 2.40V you should be at least 50 MHz higher on both CLs.
For example my Crucial 10th Anniversary Kit that I use for benching needs 2.06V for 600 MHz 5-5-5-15 and 2.13V for 500 MHz 4-4-4-12, and it's just a mediocre kit, far from what I would call a good kit.
Can you try what your kit needs for these settings?
I've given my kit 2.65V for a short time while benching high CL4 on 1:1 (1M, MaxxMem), for 32M my personal limit is closer to ~2.50V though...
Don Dan: Yes i can try what i need for those, atleast tomorrow if i cant run it fast now. Have to go sleep soon.
I try that 500 CL4 now and other one tomorrow. Il post soon!
Edit:
2.12v 4-4-4-12 1000MHz Fail.
2.016v 5-5-5-15 1200MHz didnt even boot in windows.
il try more tomorrow. I have one other patriot 2x1gb gkx kit and 4x axerams too so more is coming :)
Obviously this kit isnt any special, but atleast this was cheap :D
SPI32m 682 MHz @ 5-5-5-15 @ 2.30v
PII 975 BE + DFI 790FX + 2x1 BallistiX 16FD5
http://www.abload.de/thumb/682gd889.png
Sorry for necroposting but I think I've something rather interesting to share with my fellow DDR2 enthusiasts here on xs. :D
E6750 - FSB 545x8 (not that good) single stage cooled
Gigabyte EP45-Extreme - BIOS F8
Cellshock PC8000 naked - D9-GKX - 1308 MHz 4-4-4-4 trfc 26 trrd 1 PL 7 Super-PI 32M stable
VDIMM 3 volt
http://uwot.eu/imagehosting/image.php?dm=GR9B
Looks like the board is also pretty fast: http://hwbot.org/submission/2577717_...min_1sec_968ms
Very good D9, but the voltage is hard :D - Cellshock used good PCB, looks as if your sticks can take it :)
Yes, they scale very well with voltage.
2.8 v -> crash at loop 3/4
2.9 v -> crash at loop 11
3.0 v -> pass
Too bad the board doesn't let me feed them with more juice. :D
Nice to see some good old DDR2 kickin ass Mafio :) Interesting to see such good performance from P45 too, thought only Biostar could manage such 32m efficiency. I tried Rampage formula with various good kits some days ago, but nothing close to this. I have some Dominator 1111 4-4-4 and cellshock 1000 4-4-4 sticks that should go really high.
Thanks, socket 775 is still a lot of fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calathea
The motherboard is also pretty fast with 45nm CPUs, here is a Q9550 at 520x8.5, Cellshock 624 MHz 4-4-4-4 and PL 7 32M stable.
http://hwbot.org/submission/2576098_
P.S. Can't believe it, yesterday's morning a CPU power phase completely blew up - both driver and mosfets - while benching the E6750 single stage cooled.
The motherboard shutdown in a strange way during the boot, at first I thought the CPU died (I was using VPLL 2.6 v :D ) but after a closer look I found out it was the motherboard...VCORE was only 1.7 v and I had a fan on the PWM zone...f(l)uck
For some kind of miracle both the CPU and the motherboard are still working so looks like now I have the only EP45-Extreme with 5 CPU phases. :D
I have another or two of those boards I can take off parts but I think I am missing the right tool (hot air station) to change the mosfets.
Wow yes you were lucky. Would be a shame to blow up such a nice board. As long as current balance hasn't become weird now, I guess you could keep using the mobo with 5 phases? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mafio
Nice to see you testing again, but go easy on that poor memory kit! :D :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mafio
In the last week I got a couple more CPUs to play with and also repaired the motherboard.
The first CPU is an E6850, decent clocker too bad for the low FSB wall (~ 550 MHz single stage cooled, ~ 520 MHz when air cooled).
Managed to run 32M at 4770 MHz with a very good efficiency.
E6850 530x9
Cellshock PC8000 4-4-4-4 636 MHz trfc 26 PL 7 - VDIMM 2.9 volt just to be safe, 2.7 or 2.8 volt should be enough
http://uwot.eu/imagehosting/image.php?dm=U607
http://hwbot.org/submission/2585225_
The second CPU is a Xeon E3110, still have to try it on cold (not the best days to fireup a single stage, 30?+ C in Milan today) but looks good at least FSB wall wise.
Managed to boot with both motherboard and CPU air cooled at 650 MHz of FSB.
E3110 650x6
Cellshock PC8000 650MHz 4-4-4-4 trfc 26 PL 10 - VDIMM 2.9 volt just to be safe
http://uwot.eu/imagehosting/image.php?dm=CEGQ
http://valid.canardpc.com/1cxjxy
The trick to run this particular Cellshock kit at such high frequency/low latency combination and FSB : DRAM ratio 1:1 is play with drive strengths, in this case I used +3 on all settings in the drive strength's page.
Drive strengths on auto -> no more than 585 MHz in 1:1
1333 MHz OC profile -> boot up to 610 MHz in 1:1
+3 on everything -> boot up to 650 MHz 1:1
PL9 could be possible, I'll work on it in the next days.
Excellent results! :up:
Insane :D Bit worried you might wreck the sticks though, that much volt and so much drive strength. I read somewhere it's actually the latter that is really dangerous for mem chips. On the other hand, it's probably worth the risk, right Mafio? ;)
We only live once. :D
Today I found out one stick of my 1500+ MHz capable Ballistix is dead. :(
Sorry to hear about your loss, but that's the reason why you can never have enough D9s... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mafio
You are right, I should have bought more back in the days. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Don_Dan
E3110 610x7
Cellshock PC8000 4-4-4-4 610 MHz trfc 26 PL 9 - VDIMM 2.8 volt
Drive Strength +3
- efficiency is off because of no waza and task manager open -
http://uwot.eu/imagehosting/image.php?dm=T7AT
I hope to reach at least 620/625 MHz with PL 9 and CAS4.
5fth place on the bot with the Xeon E3110, efficiency is quite good considering I'm probably the only one using P45 and DDR2 :D
E3110 580x0
Cellshock PC8000 4-4-4-4 580 MHz trfc 26 PL 9 - VDIMM 2.6 volt
http://uwot.eu/imagehosting/image.php?dm=GBZA
http://hwbot.org/submission/2588569_...min_6sec_649ms
chew* was right! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mafio
Do you think you can reach 6x666MHz CL4? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mafio
I don't seem to be able to reach anything higher than 657 MHz, tried single channel, dual channel, CAS4, CAS5, Cellshock PC8000 and Crucial PC8500 (the only stick left) without any luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don_Dan
650 MHz is ok for boot and short benchmarks, 655 MHz is a no go, windows crash, 660 MHz always results in post error core 52; from my experience usually it is something memory related (incorrect GTL, incorrect CPU or PCI-E clock skew, not enough VDIMM/Drive Strength) but this time I can't find the right settings for the life of me.
I am inclined to think the RAM themselves are not the problem anyway, using memory divider 5:6 they can boot easily at 665 MHz 4-4-4-4 super tight subs and run 1M (it's 3 am, there is no time for more exaustive testing :D )
http://uwot.eu/imagehosting/image.php?dm=VTA6
In windows using setfsb I can run up to 657 MHz of FSB, no one MHz more (I already did it 3 years ago with another CPU): http://hwbot.org/submission/2177382_...eme_657.46_mhz
I clearly am missing something but I don't know what it is.
I see, impressive nonetheless. It might just be the board that can't do more, especially considering you hit about the same limit with two different CPUs. I remember seeing 6x666MHz only two times anyway, one was done with DDR2 @ CL4 on Biostar P45, by TaPaKaH.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mafio
Keep pushing, maybe you'll figure it out! :up:
Hello Mafio. Was reading your posts and saw that you got exactly the same hardware setup that i also have. Few days ago got my hands on some ballistix and started to play with them but nothing hadcore yet, regarding the voltage. Saw you can't pass 657 mark no mather the cl on those rams. I got this results here in dual ch, after 10-20 mins of play with the platform, on 2,2V and this here in single chanel with no more then 2,3V on air cooling. Diden't even give the NB more then 1.3V, diden't play arround with the subs for those results. Seemed pretty easy to get there. Maybe you should try those loose timmings and see if you can get bit further with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mafio
I should let Mafio answer but just have to tell you, there's a very good reason people are not using 3:5 divider - not just because it's very slow :DQuote:
Originally Posted by darco_2
Mafio is talking about 657 MHz FSB, not memory clock. He has a 763 MHz memory clock validation in his HWBot profile.Quote:
Originally Posted by darco_2
The divider you're using is bugged, please read this thread. I'll also edit your submission on HWBot, sorry.
yes, saw it too late :)
Thanks guys.
Will get back later with more results, once i get play bit with those D9.
Like Don_Dan and Calathea said I was referring to FSB, I don't seem to be able to reach anything higher than 657 MHz no matter what.Quote:
Originally Posted by darco_2
RAM clocking using "low FSB" and for example 5:6 divider is not a problem, did ~760 MHz back in the days with this very same board and the now dead crucial ballistix PC8500, I also should have a validate with the cellshock at around 1375 MHz 4-4-4-4.
Now that I am back home (I still don't know how I managed to survive from my trip in spain :D ) I will try to find out what I am missing to reach more than 657 MHz FSB frequency.
Topping at around same numbers...something around 653-655. On the latest beta bios. Did you try the older ones, F7-F8?
I use F8, the latest beta (F9_something) is messed up, super-pi 32M is slow as hell (around 20 seconds slower than F8 if I remember correctly).Quote:
Originally Posted by darco_2