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I totally agree :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by AliG
It really sounds promising and I rather be an optimist than a pessimist. This could be the advantage NVIDIA can't break until after its nextgen (GT-200(?)). I hope so, because NVIDIA needs a little humility... This said as a user that has spend >4500$ on NVIDIA product in the last 18 months.
Humility benefits everyone.
not even a month and we do not have a single pic of these cards. i just want some pr0n thats all.... :p::yepp::DQuote:
Originally Posted by w0mbat
doubled texture performance, but according to these specs they didnt add any stream processors :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by w0mbat
edit: RV770
card specs and chip specs dont lline up...
that doesn't have to correct though, that just seems to be exactly what Theo posted, which Andreas confirmed was wrong. the +200 mhz over the core clock for shader gives it away, not to mention if the card will launch on the 31st we would have at least heard something by ati by now, but that doesn't have to hold true with the way both companies have beenQuote:
Originally Posted by w0mbat
Says 480SP's here....maybe they changed it?Quote:
Originally Posted by generics_user
those specs are wrong, they quoted Theo, which Andreas (among others) have confirmed was wrong
So what are the certain specs (if any) :confused:
To hell with clock speeds for now, what is the specs of the architecture? I have read everything from doubled clocked SP, asyncronious (?) SP clocks, more SP (480), many more SP (800), simpler SP (like NVIDIA's 2+1, and not current 4+1) and X, and Y, and the most certainly Z.... and a combination of some of them.
If this is about to be released in a few weeks, then I would expect more certainty about specs and improvements.
I really hope ATI has a 8800 Ultra killer on their hand that is single GPU socket, unless they change most standards such as we know them.
Actually I said the +1GHz GPU frequency was wrong. It says 850MHz core here, and 1050MHz shader clock. That's not unreasonable.Quote:
Originally Posted by AliG
//Andreas
I thought you said the clock differential was theo's wishful thinking?
Eitherway, I'd personally like to see those shaders running at 2x core speed instead of just 200mhz higher, that's what they need to do to spank g92 imo
I dont think we will see 1000+ Mhz on GPU's until they shrink to 45 nm tbh.
My birthday is in 9 days and I wanted a 4870 :(
as for an IOU?
do your birsthday when you can buy one then ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
Nono, just the +1GHz GPU frequency, but nothing is set in stone.Quote:
Originally Posted by AliG
//Andreas
hmm, I wonder what ati will be doing about the shader clock issue the r600. To be honest I'd rather see the old 320 shaders with something like a 1:2 alu:text ratio and the shaders running at least 2x core speed rather than 480 shaders. Of course many can argue that's copying g80's design, and of course it is, you implement what works into your own design, why else did intel bring 64 bit computing to their cpus?Quote:
Originally Posted by NH|Delph1
That, and don't forget, no matter how shaders the rv770 has, unless if the game can make use of them, they're just about useless, the 9600gt proved this by being very competitive with the 3870 with only 1/5th the shaders
Ok... so I am confused by your post...Quote:
Originally Posted by AliG
First you say that ATi needs an independent shader domain.
The you proceed to talk about how "inefficient" ATi's shaders are by comparing across a different architecture?
My main question is why does everyone think they need to implement an independent shader domain when R600/RV670 has shown that the "bottleneck" is elsewhere. An independent shader domain would not only hinder the architecture IMO, implementing it now would basically null the point of RV770.
Computex 2008 AMD won't display RV770 at Computex :
http://my.ocworkbench.com/bbs/showth...981#post430981
:shakes: .
Don't the shaders do AA? Therefore, the more shaders the better!
I'm not a huge fan of the poor AA performance on my 3870.
hype hype hype...
That's weird, I thought the cards were going to be released at the end of May. Now they won't even have them ready to show the first week of June? Maybe this is going to be more like a July launch.Quote:
Originally Posted by whocaresbg
R600 launch all over again, uh ohhh :D
Are they hiding something (bad) like with R600? :rolleyes:
Another flop? :(
Turn off AF, you should see a nice boost. I believe its been agreed on that AA wasn't the big issue, AF was due to the very small texture powerQuote:
Originally Posted by roadie
Why would it reduce performance? I mean look at how well the 96gt performs, and it only has 64 shaders. I pretty sure unless games are coded to make use of all those shaders, no matter how good the drivers are we probably won't see as much as a boost as we'd like.Quote:
Originally Posted by LordEC911
Nah I highly doubt it, more likely than not gddr5 is the reason for the delay, besides fuad has posted I believe 3 times now that the rv770 will see the return of the r600's ringbus so that means there's a possibility of a gddr3 4870 with a 512 bit memoy bus. I generally don't trust the really shaky things fuad says, but when he posts the samething multiple times it generally turns out to be rightQuote:
Originally Posted by Calmatory
4870 will be a boost about 30 to 50% over 3870
Quite likely. Even though the rumours float around and the speculations vary from theoretical ~6+% boost to +100% boost, in practise this is going to be somewhere near 30-50 % average.Quote:
Originally Posted by madcho