Don't be too put-off because of the BIOS', even though it's a mixed bag, the next release will surely make things a hell of a lot better ;)
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Speaking of next release, where is it? Is there an ETA?
Ahh, didn't look well in the signature, thought it only an image. No need for CPU tab, OCCT displays everything needed, and PC Probe the vcore. Nice WC, very close to mine except an Apogee GT and a PA120.3 instead of the Fusion and MCR-320. I'll also invest in a MCW30 for my new MB.
Give OCCT last beta a try (Link), and put the slider in RAM 1024Mb mode. Hope you keep stable :confused: it really stresses the NB-RAM at maximum. If it fails, your F@H also could fail, and suerely from time to time a game or other stuff...
Please let me know once done, you have just the best yet stable OC on this board
alright guys.. im having some problem with my computer booting.
E6850 / Maximus / Tracers 8500 / Zeus 750
Cooled by W/C in my sig
after i power on, it doesnt say anything.. on the lcd it just says cpu init
are you with default settings?
New OCCT hard locks and then reboots my system...
i havent even got my computer into the bios.
Just hooked up everything last night and havent even gotten it to post yet..
help please!
i tried for 18 minutes and it was stable... couldn't get OCCT to stop the test though lol. i had to use task manager. anyway, i'll try running it longer later on. i don't think i'll have a problem though as i'm using a 1:1 divider and the ram isn't overclocked much.
try one stick of ram and let me know how that goes... try the 800 stick you have.
That's it. I'm trying to convince that Prime95 Blend is far from being a good stability test for the NB-RAM subsystem... You just saw it, sorry for you
Look at my signature. OCCT RAM will reboot me at 391MHz, I'm stable at 390MHz FSB. If my I set my vDDR to 2.0v, same thing. Of course, Prime95 small/large/blend is always happy on all settings
Hope more people will use OCCT RAM so we can have real stability measures instead of promising stable systems while they bug in games and randomly
Here you go, top 3 are the Extreme Tweaker page, bottom 2 just to see if they are set ok?
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/9...0fsb-00.th.jpg
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/4...0fsb-01.th.jpg
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/6...0fsb-02.th.jpg
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/5...0fsb-03.th.jpg
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/7...0fsb-04.th.jpg
Thanks... :yepp:
Great, good news, you are stable for 18mn which is already very good. If OCCT in RAM mode is stable for 1-2h, then it is probably stable for real.
For the priority issue, you have to set priority in "configuration panel" to lowest, it is a bug in the beta. Once on lowest, you could use your computer normally
I am trying this OCCT utility but the slider won't move because it's drawn at the top of the utility and when I click it to change RAM test size, it moves the application around screen instead. Anyone else have this problem or how to fix it, I looked in the OCCT.ini but did not see an option to define memory test size.
You can drop South Bridge back to stock voltages.. increasing it makes absolutely no differences.
Enable Loadline Calibration as this helps with vDroop.
Set DDR2 REF Voltage to nominal (the middle setting).
Disable both Spread Spectrums because they cause instability at high frequencies.
You're not overclocking your CPU? the voltage is set unnecassarily high.
The slider is active for custom test selection in the drop menu. So select, custom test in drop menu, then select the slider
Final version should be more beautiful/agenced
Official OCCT forum, final version coming soon:
http://forum.hardware.fr/hfr/Overclo...t_227556_1.htm
edit:
Please note, I'm not implicated in OCCT developement (except I followed the beta testing when I discovered, like you, that OCCT in ram mode will put much more stress on the NB and RAM than Prime95). If OCCT RAM fails, even F@H will fail from time to time on >12h run while OCCT RAM will fail in 1 to 2h. The new chips with a quad core are difficult to overclock because of an FSB-NB-RAM issue. Only OCCT in RAM mode unveals it, and F@H (but needs longer runs). I'd like to buy an X38 board and get +3.8GHz, but it has to be OCCT stable too in addition to Prime95.
Anyway, the Samurai got a great stable overclock it seems, and OCCT RAM stable, so this board should do it with the good settings/memory
Sorry, should have pointed out I am trying to overclock my cpu higher, its an E6550 2.33ghz FSB1333 and it is currently at 400x7 = 2.8ghz.
The problem is, everytime I try to push the fsb higher the system won't boot and I think its down to the memory but i'm not sure where i'm going wrong.
I have seen on other forums at least 3.2ghz and a review made it up to 3.85ghz with the E6550 using different motherboards!
Thanks, that got it working. I should have tried that.
What's the max voltage your RAM can take according to spec? make sure you're not undervolting or overvolting your RAM.
Mem timings apart from the ones you set can be left on Auto.
if 4-4-4-12 doesn't post, try 5-5-5-15 and then Memtest, if that post's ok try 5-5-5-12.
You might be better off enabling Transaction Booster and setting it to 0, also set Ai ClockTwister to Strong.
If you find that this works, try putting Transaction Booster on 1 afterwards.
Some people say that Transaction Booster doesn't work properly, but it works fine for me and increased my mem read speeds a little.
If increasing the latency helps you to post, you can probably try to drop the North Bridge volts a little, but that's only worth doing if you are worried about temps! if your NB is staying below 58-60c then you should be fine.
Refer to my post earlier regarding my listed BIOS settings if you are puzzled with setting up voltages.
2.0V is the max according to spec, so I set it to 1.9V to cover the overvolting...
4-4-4-12 is what my mem is supposed to be set at for 800mhz, its the Low Latency stuff...
I'll give all your help a try later and report back, for now you have been very helpful. Its much appreciated!! :clap:
My config atm:
E6750@
500x7=3,5Ghz
VCore 1,325V Bios - 1,304V CPU-z
NB 1,250V Bios - 1,26V Everest
FSB 1,200V Bios - 1,22V Everest
SB 1,050V Bios - 1,06V Everest
Strap 333
Loadline Calibration on
Spread Spectrums off
2x1GB Kingston HyperX 8500@
1000Mhz - 5-5-5-10 others auto
Static Read Control off
Moderate (Strong doesn`t boot)
Trasaction Booster off, lvl 1
VDimm 2,00V Bios - 2,05V Everest
I can`t get the ram above 1000Mhz and I tried a lot: voltage from 1,90V-2,16V Bios, strap 400/333, transaktion booster off lvl0-7.
I hope that the Transcend 1200Mhz will fix this problem :)
eSp!s0
is there anything you'd like me to try besides a longer OCCT beta run? i'll set to low priority and run again. does it still work just as well at testing when it's low priority? i assume that it's still taxing the system just as much but allowing you to use programs when needed (which take up resources that OCCT would normally be using so it's still taxing the same)... correct?
I almost got 4ghz stable with under 1.475 volts!
w00tness for me.
I'm taking the time to install crysis.
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/1...pre4ghzbh7.png
jonny_ftm, after what you said about the NB-RAM subsystem being the troublesome area, I decided to retry a few things. Using all voltages except ram @ 1 below red ( vPLL = 1.8v, vNB = 1.73v, vDimm = 2.26v, vFSBT 1.6v. I know vPLL is VERY high, but I wanted to ensure stabilty ) I just passed OCCT Beta 1.2 Auto 30minute test. About to try the 1hour Custom Test with 1024MB ram selected...!
Also, I'm not sure if it's permanant but my Full Load issues seem to have vanished with Folding/Prime now @ 1.575v!!! Only change is new OCCT being used a few times?
EDIT: Also, the new OCCT Beta 1.2 doesn't have an option in the Custom tests for RAM or CPU, just the duration of the test? Is this normal? Will it still stress the system as much? I assume it's a BLEND kind of test now, incorperating both CPU and RAM tests?
My bad. I didn't even see that it says "CPU" and "RAM"... I just saw the "RAM" part and assumed it was for the Ram only! :$
Right, so in the middle works like a Blend test and then to the extreme left or right works the CPU or RAM, respectively?
Im running at 467 now and its stable enough to run 3dmark06 on loop and run superpi as much as I want but my cooling cant take the quad heat so if I were to load up all cores for a lengthy time say folding all day or something then I would gradually get to warm and crash.
Anyword on a new bios yet?
will, what are you using for a cooler and what are your load temps on 1.6v???
You are courageous my friend! Well as long as your temps are good your actual voltage is still under absolute max according to Intel.
Well Itried a couple more settings and I just can't POST over 400 FSB. I set my VCore to 1.55V and I've tried lowering my multiplier to 7...no go.
This kinda sucks because I could do 450*8 all day long on my P5K Deluxe....no biggie though, as I bought this board for Crossfire performance.
I'd like to see some higher FSB and memory stability in the newer BIOS.
ANother thing that sucks is that I have to change out my Value RAM every time I reset the CMOS, and the PUS cycle trick never really works with this board.
I hooked up a temp diode to the opt1 header and I'm getting 4C (39.2F) in BIOS and in PC Probe for ambient air temp in my case.....LOL I wish. Either I have a bugged diode or they screwed the pooch on this BIOS. I have a feeling it's the latter, because this sensor is right out of the bag.....brand new.
i have a question...my 3.6ghz q6600 with 72c with load in prime...is this bad?
How many here are using dual core E6750 or E6850? And of them, how many came form from another mobo/hipset w/ same CPU?
I am using a "Big typhoon" from thermaltake. I did not mount it, just added some MX2 grease and satt the fan on top :)
I'll try another fan, and some temp measures later :)
There is some more info here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=165279&page=3
Like with Prime and Orthos, setting the priority to normal won't impact on the stability test, it will only allow the system when it needs it to be responsive. Unless you don't play Crysis while benching, it should be ok :-)
The priority selection looks buggy in this beta, the author knows it too. If you set lowest priority in this beta I noted it acts like normal
If you're already stable in Prime95 small FFT or OCCT CPU mode, then yep, only the OCCT RAM is missing to see if that NB-RAM is stable
I'm really getting more and more tempted now by the Maximus, seing more and more people getting above the 3.8GHz on the quad core. I can't spend the money in a bad board than get screwed, can't afford it. That's why I'm trying to help people here to bench it till the limits (well, TAT should be the max for CPU only, but it is really useless because only theorical). Personally, I think many issues are suerely related to the passive cooling clearly not sufficient for an extreme overclock in my opinion, and of course to bios bugs
Not exactly. Blend in Prime will use all your memory. OCCT needs now 1Gb free. So people with less than 2Gb total RAM can't run RAM test.
I made many tests comparing OCCT RAM and CPU modes to Prime small, large and blend modes. Prime95, in all 3 modes will put much load and heat on the CPU than OCCT (about 3 to 5°C). Also, Prime95 has a linear constant CPU temperature curve. OCCT has a kind of oscilloscopic curve. Theorically, I thought Prime is better: more heat, stable load...
In practice, RAM mode can't be matched, as Prime95 will be rock solid while OCCT will bug/reboot your PC in some mn if unstable. Also, the CPU mode, is in all my tests as efficient as Prime95 small FFT
The one thing in OCCT, forget that Auto mode and 30mn stable message. It will by the way be removed in final release I think
I'm gonna buy a DDR2 kit to try to better OC my Q6600 on my P5B deluxe. I'd like a kit that will support the Maximus on a near future upgrade
Anyone has an idea on this cheap kit:
KINGSTON HyperX KHX9600D2K2/2G, 2048MB, PC2-1200, CL5-5-5-15
You think it will be a go with the Maximus
Thanks
ballistix are 59$ on buy.com
http://www.buy.com/prod/crucial-ball...202541818.html
Am I cheating?? :)
Well, did'nt do anything.. It just works.
is it true that disabling the spectrum options helps with 400+ fsb stability?
I have those PC6400 Ballistix's and they are D9's. I can run mine at 1100ish 5-5-5-12 and 980ish 4-4-4-10 and that is using 2.12 volts and not the 2.2 max volts. They are great cheap memory. Although I paid almost $300 for them when I got mine. :(
Maglin:
What are your bios settings?
Well after your help, I have managed the following so far:
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/511/450fsbih3.th.png
Using the following settings in the Bios:
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8...sb00eb4.th.jpg
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8...sb01ey6.th.jpg
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7...sb02mx8.th.jpg
I shall continue to see how much further I can take it tomorrow!! ;) :D
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :mad: Ok so I went to inch up my fsb from 450 x 8 to 452 x 8 and booted into windoze. CPUZ shows a fsb of 448...? wtf? My memory speed went from 1128 to 1133 but the cpu speed went down? I don't get it. Anyways, so I set it back to 450 x 8 and rebooted. I did not change any of my 18 hr prime stable settings (as detailed below) and I can't run for more than an hour or 2 now. Ideas?
I have tested the memory with GoldMemory and Memtest for 8hrs each @ 1128mhz and it passed just fine. Here's my once stable settings that have now become unstable for some reason.
CPU Ratio Control Manual
Ratio CMOS setting 8
FSB Frequency 450
FSB Strap to NB Auto
PCIE Freq 100
DRAM Freq DDR2-1128mhz
DRAM Command Rate 2T
DRAM Timing Control Manual
cas 5
ras to cas 5
ras precharge 5
ras active time 15
Everything else AUTO
-----------------------------------
Voltages
CPU Voltage 1.4875 (1.464 droop)
CPU PLL Voltage 1.5
NB Voltage 1.61 (overvolting to 1.65)
DRAM Voltage 1.98 (overvolting to 2.1)
FSB Term Volt 1.4 (overvolting to 1.472)
SB volt 1.050 (overvolting to 1.09)
Loadline Calib Enabled
CPU GTL Ref auto
NB GTL Ref auto
DDR2 channel A auto
DDR2 channel b auto
DDR2 Controller auto
SB 1.5v 1.5
Both spread spectrums disabled.
Even though I kept saying I'm done I kept tweaking to try to get rock solid. I'm not running the Crucial memory as it is fast but was giving me the same issues as my G.Skills and I would rather just use 2 slots instead of 4. I haven't tried the PC8500 Ballistix's yet but I might go ahead and see how they run for me. I'll post my new BIOS settings soon. I've recently been playing with the CPU PLL and it has helped some but I'm really having to give it juice like 1.76 atm I think.
jonny_ftm, i had occt running for 1hr 15m with the slider all the way to ram. no problems what so ever.
with the new OCCT i keep getting Error 1, what does that mean?
Guys we don't need nearly as much NBV as everyone seems to be saying...I'm running 1.50V according to PC Probe and I'm stable in Prime95 blended so far. I tightened my subtimings and the fourth main timing to 12...can't remember which one that is.
anybody here using the 4GB Gskill (2x2gb ddr2 1000) set on this board?
Im about to order these.. any input ?
i agree... i don't think any of the voltages need to be as high as some are stating. i'm theorizing that the higher voltages with some are what is making the overall overclock unstable. i've yet to completely dial in my 3.9, but i'm thinking i might just try and start 4 GHz again. haven't decided...
AGREED!!!!! use EZ Flash in the bios!!!!!!
Just burn a CD with the Bios...
I think it can be done with this http://www.biosflash.com/e/bios-boot-cd.htm
OK sent my Ballistix back today for RMA and am picking up a set of higher voltage Reapers to try.
my maximus is DOA...
Tried different type of ram/gpu/psu and and nothing....
cpu isnt a problem since its working perfectly fine right now
the lcd poster just stayed on the "CPU INIT" screen and never changed no whatever what i tried...
You guys suggest I rma for another maximus or is there another board you guys will recommend?
This BOARD needs BETTER DIVIDERS at 333 & 400 strap!!!!!!
Yea I use a USB stick to store BIOSes (must be formatted FAT32) and save my CMOS using the same stick.
I found yet ANOTHER BUG with the BIOS using this method though....
If you reset the CMOS and try the enter the BIOS with your flash drive attached (containing only a BIOS and .CMO CMOS file) it will hang on detecting the drive....you must remove it, hard boot, then boot into your OS, insert the drive, reboot, and it will work.
Meh
You can also store to the profiles on the OC backup program . There are two.
Man I really want to go higher on my board! I'm only loading at 50-57C at 3.6! I don't know why I can't post higher than 400 MHz....this is seriously killing me....
Yeah, stupid me, I tried for the 9x415MHz as was denied once again. But as gesture of good faith for trying to achieve the unachievable--for me, at least--my OS decided to take a crap on me. It wouldn't have been so bad except my RAID10 array starting spitting out error after error, over 300 and still counting, before I decided to pull the plug. I never learn.....
Even running at 400FSB I couldn't get any of the memory dividers to boot except for 106XMHz on the 400FSB strap, iirc. Even when running my RAM @ 2.3V (actual) and 5-6-6-18 timmings I couldn't hit 12XX on the 266 strap or the 12xx on the 333 strap (Strap still set to AUTO but I believe that's where the two dividers are found). I can't remember what combination of Static Rd/Trans Booster/Relax lvl I used but I will give it another go once I finish w/ my OS(s) install.
ARGH!!!!!!
Great OC, and yes, you should be rather rock solid now. Thanks for the try, at least now people know OCCT RAM is the way to go, and if it bugs, its an OC issue
Code 1 : thread stopped because another thread stopped
Code 2 : stop by user
Code 3 : memory error
Code 4 : calculation error
Error codes are not well onscreen displayed in this beta. Go in the OCCT folder, you have text files named thread0x.txt. Each thread is for a different CPU core. In each thread you have a code. Usually you'll get a code 4 in one of the threads as even if the problem is memory/NB related, it will lead to calculation error
Thanks for the advice, I'll stay away of them for now so...
Are the Ballistix Tracer PC2-8500 (DDR2 1066) performing well on this board with a quad core? Should I get my self these sticks? What was the problem you RMAed your stix?
Please anyone advice me a good sticks combo 2x1Gb to achieve high overclocks on this Maximus
Thanks again
Simplest is just to flash from floppy w/ EZ-Flash, drag and drop to floppy and only inser just before entering EZ-Flash menu.
This mobo is very pick with RAM deviders and especially if in the black slots. Move to white slots to get more stable for DDR1150 or 1200. Also, for the higher FSB OC, try 1:1 to eliminate the devider instability issue and see what that gets you. I get 500FSB easy with very little effort over that of 450 - 475 settings.
I am on a test devider for 475x8 @ 4:5, DDR1180 @ 5-5-5-15 but @ 2.32v. and it scores more in Everest RAMBench but doesnt feel all that better then 500x7, 1:1 DDR1000 @ 4-4-4-12. Pluss I dont like having to give the Tracers that much volts
Just my thoughts
Air cooling for the North Bridge... Obviously the Maximus has a fusion water block fitted but I really don't want to go down that route. (The Non SE version is not available here either so don't ask why I didn't get that) So what are you guys using air cooling, using for cooling the North Bridge?? Preferably I want something not too noisey!
I have an Antec P182SE case with a Top and Rear 120mm fan on medium. I also have an Antec Spot Cool fan, attached to the mobo next to and directed at my memory. Then there is a 120mm in the centre of the lower chamber, again on medium but thats just for the drives and PSU.
I just got another 2x Antec 120mm Tricool fans, one of which I will put in the front of the case in the upper chamber but haven't fitted it as yet... I'm thinking of using the other 120mm fan for a Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme for the CPU, these are supposed to be one of the best CPU coolers aren't they??
HR-05 SLI/IFX
Thermalright
w/ this 80mm fan JMC Pulse width modulated DC fan
NB temps haven't broken 40 degree yet, even at 1.61V (actual).
Well I'm running 4Gb so I can't switch slots....they're all full!
I wasn't aware that there was divider issues, so I'll try running the RAM 1:1 and see what happens....
Oh yea, I haven't used floppy disks in years! I just keep one of my older USB flash drives in the back of my PC for flashing. This mobo actually has onboard memory for saving profiles too.
Use a hairdryer to heat the fuzion block and be gentle otherwise you could end up taking the hs and/or chip with it....
Is the fuzion block glued on then??
Have a look here. By Syngrow.
Oh right... Hmmn. I'm thinking something much simpler now: Clickety Click :clap:
It says on the small fan supplied with the Maximus 'For use in junction with Passive Cooler or Water Cooler ONLY'. Its not going to hinder the CPU fan that much surely? Anyone else using this small Asus fan?
There is no way to get SLI working on this motherboard ? Is it only a matter of driver support ?
No SLI unless someone hacks for the 8800's. You can run 7900 SLI with the old hacked drivers. I have the 2x2gb PC8000 G.Skills. I like them. I can run them at 1088 5-5-5-15 and rest auto at 2.1v. I did end up putting a 120mm fan on my memory and NB which droped my NB temps 10* and of course my ram is no longer toasty.
Can someone advise me of the MAX temps I should be looking out for on NB/SB and CPU? I guess the CPU is down to the type, but where would I find this for my E6550?
Just wondered if there was anyone running with equal to or less than my E6550 on the Maximus?
don`t know exactly, but I don`t like to see my C2Dcpu above 50°(degrees 4 celsius?) and cores above 60°.
so 42ºC CPU after running 3Dmark06 isn't too much of a hinderence then, thats ok. Have ordered a Thermalright 120 xtreme today so hopefully that'll bring it down further anyway!!
Well I got things somewhat sorted out here.
BIOS: 0602
9x400MHz
FSB Strap: Auto
PCIE Freq: 100
DDR2-1066MHz
5-4-4-12-3-42-6-3
8-3-5-4-6-4-6
Dram Static Rd: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister: Strong
Trans Booster: Enabled
Relax lvl: 0
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6...enchep2.th.png
Got better clocks w/ Dram Static disabled and Trans enabled than I did with Dram Static enabled and Trans Disabled. There is still more tweaking to do with the timming but I am pretty happy thus far:up:.
E6750 @ 500x7=3500 1,325V Bios, 1,304V CPU-z
2x1GB Transcend9600 @ 1200Mhz, 333Strap, 2,14V Bios, 2,20V Everest
5-5-5-15 2T, other Timings Auto
Static Read Cotrol off, Moderate, Transaction Booster off Lvl1
http://www.abload.de/thumb/35ghz12005-5-4-15rambnb.png