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When I update my bios (P35-DS3 rev 1.0) from F9 to F11 or F12, the CPU fan is running at 100% all the time.
Anyone having the same problem ? Any idea how to fix this problem ?
Have anybody tested overclocking intel e8xxx series on gigabyte p35-ds3?
i wonder when we get a new bios
tested the f7d Bios but i am back on f7c. For me the f7d is a little unstable. getting bsod by benching spi above 5ghz.
c ya
I got a P35-DS3R rev 1.0 and when i start a cpu stress test the temperature jumps up by 20*C(Instantly) and if i stop the test it goes down right away by 20*C.When it shows 70*C(Under stress) i can put the hand on the radiator and it does not have 70.I already have the F11 bios.Ideas?
20 degrees difference between idle and load temperatures is in fact really good but your idle temp of 50*C points towards bad contact between CPU and heatsink. It's a bit difficult to tell though when we don't know what CPU, voltage, cooling or software you're using.
I suggest you download CoreTemp just to confirm the temperature readings. After that I would recommend you to re-mount your heatsink with a proper amount of good thermal paste (AS5, MX2 etc.).
I have a E4400@3000mhz 1,30vcore
Cooling:Big typhoon.
Right now i have like 30*C per core and should i open orthos it jumps to 50*C then it start going up by 1 degree.So after 10 minutes orthos i have like 60*C and when I stop it ,instantly 40*C ,and again it starts going down slowly .like it should.
I just picked up an EP35C-DS3R, and I'm not impressed. It struggles to get the E2140 to 3.2 GHz. I guess i'm just spoiled with DFI boards.
It isn't a bad board at all, it just doesn't like to boot when trying to get the FSB up there. For some reason, you actually have to take steps.
I should've bought the DFI P35-T2RL.
I am not sure if anyone can explain this but I upped the voltage on my memory (see rig in sig) to 2.0v and I set it to run at 1066Mhz with timings of 5-5-5-15. It boots fine, and windows is stable but the Seagate 500GB HDD I have attached to the Gigabyte RAID controller (i.e. Purple SATA connectors) doesn't post. Is this something that can be fixed?
Hi gang. I just build my new rig with a P35-DS4. Newegg sent me the Rev2.1 board which made my day. I've got the Q6600 with G0 stepping and a Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme with a Scythe 120mm 1600rpm fan mounted on it. Board fired right up, loaded Windows XP Home, and I made it to the desktop without a single issue (praise God!).
Now this isn't really a problem, but it's something I would like to figure out. I've had several people tell me conflicting things about running the fans off the MB - some say it doesn't matter, others say I should run all the fans off the PSU. Now my front case fan was not running at all, not on the SYS_FAN2 or PWR_FAN headers, but when I hooked it up to the PSU (using a 3-pin to molex adapter that came with my Scythe) it runs.
I have disabled SmartFan and set the fans to Voltage in the BIOS. My Quad temps at idle according to CoreTemp are 26/26/28/22. They fluctuate sometimes to 36/36/36/25, but this is only when I'm doing something like surfing and checking email.
I went to the Gigabyte site and downloaded the F11 BIOS update for my DS4. After using Q-Flash, loading the new BIOS update, and then restarting, I went into BIOS and loaded the optimized defaults. However, when I get to the POST screen it still says F8 (F8 is what it shipped with).
Shouldn't that number change to F11 after updating the BIOS?
Thanks in advance to anyone who helps.
Anyone?
Hello.
Today, a Gigabyte member send to me beta bios F12b for P35-DS4.
If you want this bios, send me a private message.
Bye
New 12b Beta BIOS for P35-DS4:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MJ6QPIO2
Ok, I tried this again. I downloaded the F11 BIOS update and this time I put it on my USB drive. Restarted and did the Q-Flash and now I get F11 in POST. To give myself some peace of mind I ran Prime95. After a half hour temps hung around 46/46/45/42. After an hour temps remained steady at 45/45/43/40. Good? Seems like it.
As for the fans I'm ordering some longer fan extensions, some black sleeving, and a Sunbeam MFPP Multi-Fan port to plug them all into. Plan on doing some major cable modding when everything arrives.
Thanks.
Oh goody. Got everything updated then after installing the driver CD for my Diamond Viper X1650 Pro the system crashed. Cool. Well, looks like a reinstall of XP in the morning. Ahhh, gotta love computers.
P35-DQ6
New bios F7F
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i could also do with some information abiout these settings, i've just built a new system, e8400,x38 ds4,2x1gb giel ull.
trying to get stable at 4ghz (445x9) atm but not having much luck. i can boot int owindows but orthos fails after 18mins of blend test.
vcore 1.375
ddr +0.40v (2.1v)
mch ?
fsb +0.15 (does his need to be higher?
ce1 disabled etc.
any help would be much apprieciated!
cheers
munk
I just installed a EP35-DS3R with an e8400. I am getting conflicting temps with speedfan and hardwaremonitor.
cpuid hardware monitor
core0 61
core1 61
speedfan
temp1 38
temp2 24
whats the deal and which one is more accurate. i have the f3b bios
I didnīt see any improvment...
Iīm frustrated...i can run stock speeds with 1.15 in bios and 3200 with 1.2375 (both rock solid).
Anythinh beyond 3200 is a lie...
Iīve tryied so many different settings (mch, fsb, pci-e, multiplier, etc) and i canīt stable my q6600 above 3200:mad:
tom3q: I´ve reuploaded the bios F12B for GB-DS4
# P35DS4.12B of size 1024 KB
http://www.filefactory.com/file/186af5/
2v1x: you are in the wrong thread, if you have a X38 chipset...(X38-DS4)
all abou Gigabyte X38 is here:
GB X38
thanks mtex
Has anyone been able to attain better memory results in Everest with a Gigabyte P35 board? If so, what are your FSB and memory settings?
This is the best I was able to do at stock voltage with a Gigabyte DS3R + E8400.
2000FSB vs 1800FSB
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/1...ckvoltaws1.png http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/264...ckvoltaoo0.png
Memset screenshots for 2000FSB and 1800FSB.
The problem with the P35 chipset is that you cannot increase the FSB without increasing the tRD (known as performance level in Memset), and tRD has by far the most significant impact on memory performance.
I wonder if increasing MCH voltage might allow one to use a lower tRD?
What FSB do you use? To me, it looks like tRD (performance level) depends on FSB and has very little to do with the memory clock -- though I have only done limited testing.
With "Extreme" set in the bios on my DS3R, I get a tRD of 6 @ 4x400=1600 FSB and a tRD of 8 @ 4x450=1800+ FSB.
Yeah, i cant explain why I cant boot into windows 9x456 on mem 2.4 instead of 1:1 until I change perf 7 to 8, but nevertheless I cant...just reboots and kills my O/C. But keep the same settings and 9x456 and change to perf 8, and fires right up and runs stable.:shrug:
I have all secondary timings set, including tRD, nothing is auto except phase, so turbo and extreme are same on mine, though standard changes something b/c everest write decreases, I dont know what it changes since everything I can see is locked.
Does anyone know the default FSB termination voltage value in GB P35 DQ6? Does the new bioses, F7c,d,e which support E8400's set that at 1.1 for E8400 which is the suggested? Or is it the same no matter the processor? The gigabyte no sensor, no listed actual voltage, no clue where your at settings are annoying. Maybe intel could put a little addendum .. normal for a GB board is +.0?:rolleyes:
Hello I have an E8400 on P35-DS3. Everything runs ok, except I can't set 0.5 cpu dividers in bios. I send an email on ggts(Gigabyte support) with the same photo that I attach here with the cpu stepping and the answer from ggts was : "Dear Sir,
Thank you again for your kindly mail and information. Based on CPU spec., there is no "0.5 ratio" setting. "
This mean that unless you have a half multi cpu like the E8500, can't set 0.5 dividers? That's strange, I think I have seen E8400 with 0.5 multis like 8.5. :shrug:
All E8XXX series have half multis from what I have read. The problem is that Gigabyte support sucks. Always has. MSI is not much better. If they bothered hiring English literate staff, it might not be so bad, despite the usual huge delays in responding to an EMail. A month delay is not unusual. I once had an over 6 month delay. I had already moved to my DFI NF3 250GB.
The only MB maker with decent support is DFI, which is one of the big reasons I am switching.
G'day all,
I am trying to manually set ALL primary and secondary memory timing sets in my P35-S3 BIOS (should be same as DS3 for all intents and purposes)
Some values I am not sure of:
ACT to ACT delay (tRRD): 3?
Rank Write to READ Delay: 3?
Write to precharge delay: 6?
Refresh to ACT delay (Same as Refresh Cycletime?) = 42?
Static tRead Value = 7?
Static tRead Phase Adjust = Auto? 1? 2? 3? There's no "0" option here, even though "0" is apparently the default. Go figure.
I've attached a memset SPD output.
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7522/spdsn7.png
I have the P35-DS3R, is it worth the time to take off the NB and SB heatsinks and replace the stock thermal paste/pad with Artic5? Or should I replace the heat sinks with after market heat sinks? This is in an effort to overclock more.
Thanks,
Utnorris
how hot are the heatsinks getting as is? If you want to change out the interface material, knock yourself out. But you really should get a fan to directly blow over the northbridge heatsink if you want to have any real effect.
And what makes you think it's your NB/SB heating up? You must be doing something really wrong if you're having trouble passing 3.6MHz
Well, actually, I just got my Q6600, so I haven't tried going past 3.6 yet. I am completing my W/C setup on Thursday and once that is done I will try going further. The only reason I asked is that in the few instances that I have overclocked this new chip I have had no trouble overclocking it, but for some reason my ram is not stable at 1000mhz. On my previous chip, E6750, I had no problem running the ram at 1080, stressed test and all. Now if I overclock my ram, P95 won't complete past 2 threads. I back the ram down and P95 has no problem running. I don't attribute the NB or SB getting hot to this, I just thought while I had my system pulled apart why not swap the heat sink material or actual heat sinks out. Anyway, once I get my W/C setup on Thursday I will play with the oc'ing some more. I am hoping to hit 4ghz, but we will see. I figure since I am only at 1.41v at 3.6ghz I have plenty of room to get to 4ghz assuming I don't hit a wall. At least I know my motherboard won't be holding me back since I was running it at 450mhz before.
Anyway, it was just a thought.
Thanks,
Utnorris
Won't that make it hotter since it should do a better job of moving the heat from the chip to the heat sink? Wouldn't you be better adding a fan to it or a bigger heat sink?
Utnorris
Yeah, your right. I think a fan is in order here
Here are some reading about all subtimings
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3190&p=11
And some about tRD or Perf lvl
The Rules of Working with tRD: What's Allowed and What Isn't
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=8
This is what my com boot with at 500fsb ,+0.1 FSB and MCH, perf lvl at Turbo
Thought I would ask the same question here that I did under my ram thread. I currenly have a GA-EP35-DS3P and 4x1gb Transcend 1200+ sticks of memory. I can get it to run at 1200 by only using 2 (Either Set) but soon as I add the other 2 I can't seem to get it stable over about 1066. Anyone have some settings I could try to figure out this problem.
Thanks
-Mallow
Anyone herd if they are going to release a bios soon with .5 multi's for wolfdales?
DS3 has support for NCQ in XP ?
ncq requires ahci mode. officially, ahci is only supported on the ich#r's in xp. At least for the p965, so I'm not positive about the p35. But there are modified drivers that bring ahci mode to xp without issue.
Hey everyone,
I am having an issue with my P35-DQ5 v1.0 where if I increase the "CPU Host Freq" in the bios it is not beening set when I boot the machine.
eg, When I set the "CPU Host Freq" option in the bios to 400, after reboot looking at cpu-z it is only showing 266 default.
Now all of my memory timings (CL, tRCD, TRP & tRAS) are set to what I selected, which is on the same bios screen. Same with voltages.
Now I made sure that the C.I.A.2 is disabled. Does not matter what Performance Enhance I use.
This has only started to happen when I applied the F7d bios. Since then I have tried the latest F7 bios and also the F6 but still the same issue where the fsb does not reflect the bios settings.
Anyone have any ideas ?
Cheers
Wally
Has anyone run higher frequency rams other that 1066 on a P35-DS4? Id like to run something rated a little higher than 1066 dims. Anyone?:shrug:
It's because you run FOUR of them. The motherboard OFFICIALY support 1066 and that is what you can expect. And when you run FOUR DIMM's it a lot hardef for the motherboard so running 4 dimms at 1200 is a lot of strain and as you have noticed, it doesn't work all that well.
I have tried it myself with my 1125 MHz RAM's and it didn't even go stable at 1066 and THAT I would have expected though.
See above, as long as you run TWO sticks you can go VERY high. I have rached DDR1350 with Crucial ballistix. So the actual RATING of the DIMMS are not important at all. Just the fact that higher rated DIMMs are just higher rated and you can expect them to perform higher. It will still be an overclock for the motherboard but not for the DIMMs.
http://www.jobbig.se/klimpen/p35-dq6...003_resize.jpg
Hello,
I´ve have just resolved my problem with E8400 an P35-DQ6 ... the cpu was damaged, but not physically...
Now I have new E8400, and everything is working... CPu shows 9x333 by post, EIST is working fine...
Also that wasn´t the problem with mobo, but with the cpu itself...
I have another problem with stability by overclocking, when I wanna go above 400Mhz FSB, the system is very unstable...itīs freezes or I often get BSOD...
Iīve tried worse memory timings, increased voltages (CPU, memory, FSB termination, moery voltages and others)...
CPU E8400+ P35-DQ6 (F7f), if I go at 3600Mhz (1.225V), memory timing 4-4-4-12 + extreme @2.1V, the system is very stable in all aplications...
but when a set the FSB at 425Mhz with the same memory timing as was at 3.6ghz system isnīt stable...
-than I have tried memory tim. 5-5-5-18/standard/+increase voltages (CPU 1,3V by 3.8ghz)...but it was useless
-If I tried E6750 at 425Mhz FSB the system wasnīt stable too... but a 2 month ago Iīd used that E6750 at 8x450Mhz a there was no problem...(BIOS F4, F6)
-Iīve thought, the BIOS is the problem, also I tried version F6, but itīs have got the same results...
-Any idea, where can be the problem? I think, there is something wrong with mobo from certain time...
Thank
If you heatsink is hot then heat contact is normal. Using AS5 or other won't give any benefits. But be calm: Tcase max for Intel P35 is 106 °C. ( http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets...nex/316968.htm )
F12B (for p35/ds4) support .5 multis, and its working fine ;)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MJ6QPIO2
Any 0.5 multi support for P35-S3 Rev 1.0?
I use to have an Asus P5B-Premium Vista Edition and with this board I could bring back from suspend on S3 with the remote, even could turn on the PC just using the "Vista Edition" receiver and configuring the MC Remote button.
Now I got a GA-P35-DS4 and I know that is mostly impossible to turn on the PC with the remote but at least I would like to bring back the PC from suspend.
I remember with the Asus board when I suspend the PC the usb devices stayed on, but with the GA-P35-DS4 it doesn't. I guess that when I suspend the PC it turn off the R/C receiver, how can I configure it to make it stay on?
BTW, WOL only works if the PC is off but it doesn't when is on standby, is this normal?:hm:
Thanks
ICS of DS3P?
look at the PLL chip on the motherboard.. it should say it.
on the ds3r it's a ICS9LPRS587EGLF
New bioses for P35-DS4 and P35-DQ6 in StationDrivers
What's the best BIOS for DS3R?
Is one of them more stable then the others or what are the advantages
Anyone have the DS3R with a Q6600 that has been able to OC higher than 450Mhz? I can get it to boot at 450Mhz x 9 but it fails in Everest. I put my voltage to 1.6 but because of the Vdroop it is actually at 1.56 which doesn't seem enough to make it stable. I thought about 1.8, but figured that would be too much of a hike in voltage and since there isn't anything to select between 1.6 and 1.8 i am kinda stuck at 3.6Ghz. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Utnorris
Hmmm beging to hate my P35 DQ6 rev 1.0 i changed over memory from Patriot extreme editon PC6400 because it wasn't holding it's overclocks more than a few day at a time on my E6600 before resetting, to Corsair XMS2 PC6400 4-4-4-12 now it won't overclock at all no matter what i put the FSB on im now running stock :(. tried diffrent bioses as well no luck :( :(
I Ran memtest no errors so it not the memory at fault
any ideas people before i rip this thing out and get a new mobo from so other maker.
Here you go my friend:
http://www.jobbig.se/klimpen/clockge...te_p35-dq6.jpg
Thank you.
Thanks r4st4m4n, I've check all the options on the BIOS and nothing like leave the USB powered when the PC is off. Probable because my GA-P35-DS4 is rev. 1.0 and still didn't had this option or something...
It has the ACPI option for the PCI port so probable I'll try buying an USB card with ACPI support. There is only one brand in Japan that says on the box that is ACPI compatible. I'm going to try with that, if doesn't work I have to try the hard way...
I had a problem with my P35-DS4 after remounting a cooler. The system just wouldn't post but instead kept rebooting (without any beeps or anything). I've found more people with this issue using Gigabyte s775 boards, so I'll post the my solution.
The problem came from the the tiny SMD resisters on the bottom of the CPU making contact with those in the middle of the socket causing some sort of short. The cause of this is probably that I always tighten nuts fairly far :p:
Here you can see what I did:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...775-closed.jpg
Any non-conductive sheet material that's thin enough will do
I hope someone will find this helpful :)
I am at =.1 so I will try moving it up to .2 to see if that makes it stable. I don't understand why the multiplier would cause it to fail since it already runs stable at 450 x 8 but then becomes unstable at 450 x 9. I am also going to try lowering the temps to see if that makes a difference too.
Thanks for the reply,
Utnorris
In that case, it shouldn't be needed.
I didn't really read carefully your post. But 4GHz is not something that easy to reach for a Q6600. 1.55V real might just be not enough for your chip.
Why don't you try some values in between 450*8 and 450*9 ? 450 MHZ is quite a big jump. Is there any reason why you absolutely want to stay at 450 MHz FSB ?
Maybe you should set your voltage at 1.6V, start at 400*9 and then increased the FSB by 5-10 MHz step and test the stability at each step.
The reason I went to 450mhz was that the strapping changes when you go from 400mhz to 450mhz for the Ram. My ram actually has no problem overclocking to 1080mhz at 1066 strapping, but for some reason it has a problem going to 980 at 800 strapping, very frustrating. So to fix it, I lowered the multiplier and raised the fsb to force the strapping since I couldn't figure out how to change it. If you have any suggestions or know what the strapping changes at what fsb, ie 425mhz then that would be helpful. I am going to try a couple of things this week, cooling adjusting the voltage on the mch and northbridge. I am also going to try raising the fsb up to 475mhz to see if I can run at that speed, although it only gets me to 3.8Ghz, I have seen plenty running at this speed.
Anyway, thanks for the suggestions, I will try a few of them,
Utnorris
Is there any way to change GTL and other intricate voltage settings in windows thru software? (P35-S3)
I _THINK_ the strapping changes at 416 to 417 FSB. It does so on my DQ6.
Just set it to 416 and run som ememory benchmark (Everest is a good one).
Then jump up to 417 and run the same benchmark again to see if a big change occur, then you have your strapping value.
I think the Gigabyte software bundled with the board can change voltages ... but you need to reboot the PC to take effect (yes I know, very usefull compare to change it through bios) :rolleyes:
And frankly this software is a big :banana::banana::banana::banana: , I wouldn't recommend it.
What else can change "secondary" voltages then? There's not much option in the BIOS
thx
Anyone has installed chipset drivers on Vista?
Iīm asking this because iīm struggling with oc on my P35-DQ6.
I donīt know if installing the drivers will affect perfomance or oc...:shrug:
I eventually had enough of my P35 DQ6 not holding it clocks & not clocking at all when i changed the memory, so went and bought a cheap MSI P35 NEO2 FR.
Now im happily sat on 3.6GHZ without a single problem :)
Now ive been a Gigabyte fan for years and never had a problem with them my P965 DS3 was rock solid aswell.
This is the 2nd DQ6 rev1.0 ive had both showing same problems.
I think Gigabyte have slip alittle on some of it P35 mobo's personally.
kaa
Keep your ram within spec by using the divider inside the bios, i.e. if you are at 400Mhz you would set it to 2 for 800mhz ram. Then try overclocking the cpu. Set you voltage to normal at first and try 333mhz x 9. If it doesn't boot or if it isnt stable try upping the voltage to 1.35 in the bios and try it again. If it still isn't stable try upping the voltage to 1.4 and so on. the "GO" series should easily get you 3.6 at 450x8 with a voltage of 1.45 setting in bios. Also try putting your MCH and FSB voltage to .2 voltage in the bios.
Let us know if that helps,
Utnorris
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