The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

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Originally Posted by Zucker2k

Post settings.

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I used nuckin_futs' bios settings from here

All the settings are identical to the one found in the link except for CPU PLL voltage, changed to 1.632v in order to get the 500x8 overclock (which he mentioned as well in some other post).

So, props to him/her.

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Originally Posted by jorgito05

Following are some images of todays 3DMARK06 results. I was getting a lower score of about 11 thousand something now this? all I did is download SP3 for windows XP Is this possible?

Also I have two 2900 XT's running crossfire; Why does it show only one display device? How do I change this?

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First, sounds like you did not install XP hotfixes for Crossfire in XP at first.

Secondly, Crossfire makes for just one device. Disable it to get things back to normal. Pain in the butt if you multi-monitor, for sure, but that's how it is.

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Originally Posted by cadaveca

First, sounds like you did not install XP hotfixes for Crossfire in XP at first.

Secondly, Crossfire makes for just one device. Disable it to get things back to normal. Pain in the butt if you multi-monitor, for sure, but that's how it is.

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what driver version are you using? catalyst 8.3 tends to destroy your cpu score in crossfire. fastest catalyst for 2900s are 7.11 in 3dmark06. :up:

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Originally Posted by mashakos

I used nuckin_futs' bios settings from here

All the settings are identical to the one found in the link except for CPU PLL voltage, changed to 1.632v in order to get the 500x8 overclock (which he mentioned as well in some other post).

So, props to him/her.

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now do it on the 9 multi:D

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f.../4500_keep.jpg

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Originally Posted by hotshot100

I have just got my new Q9450 , I dont know why but I have some problem with my FSB setting . I cant pass 440mhz with the quad core . (6x multi just to test my max fsb).

I have the lastest bios 1201 .

update : I need 1.65v to the north bridge and 1.5v to fsb to have 440fsb stable it is normal ?


Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : 6
FSB Frequency : 440
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-880mhz (1066mhz memory)
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Disable
Ai Clock Twister : light
Transaction Booster : disable
Relax level : 1

CPU Voltage : 1.275
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52
North Bridge Voltage : 1.65
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage : 1.1
Loadline Calibration : auto
CPU GTL Reference : auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : 6
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enable
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enable
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

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Cool another Q9450 overclocker. Well, wish you better luck then my Q9450 or 45nm quad support or feedback request. I usually just get ignored by the regulars in this tread dispite my high support I return. Oh well, there's other sites.

I'm sure your questions will get results as I can already see.

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Originally Posted by Krav

Im getting BSOD after hour or so play in counterstrike, is there anyway to find out whats causing the problem as i ran prime95 for 9 hours on current settings and it didnt crash or see any problems.

Im on bios 907 should i move to a newer one and if so which?

Thanks.

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Ok i managed to see the bsod message and it said page fault in non paged area. Any ideas what could be causing this?

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Originally Posted by Krav

Ok i managed to see the bsod message and it said page fault in non paged area. Any ideas what could be causing this?

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Vista?

If so your looking at a re install, Vista is kinda wimpy on the hard crashes and after a small amount of time you wil need to do a clean install.

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Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs

I usually just get ignored by the regulars in this tread dispite my high support I return. Oh well, there's other sites.

I'm sure your questions will get results as I can already see.

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I dont ignore anyone,( accept maybe my wife) if I dont have an answer I dont bother to comment is all. If I have a suggestion I will always post a reply...always. It is frustrating having your post go unanswerd. I always read every new post including yours :). Sometimes I can offer some info / advice and other times I will just look foolish so I remain quiet. Please dont take my silence personal, I find your post's informative and you have help'd me many times in the past, so if at any time I can help you I surely will:up:

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Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs

Cool another Q9450 overclocker. Well, wish you better luck then my Q9450 or 45nm quad support or feedback request. I usually just get ignored by the regulars in this tread dispite my high support I return. Oh well, there's other sites.

I'm sure your questions will get results as I can already see.

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I have learned a fair bit from you guys already actually :D

The last time I did any real overclocking was in the late 90's with a BP6 and a pair of Celeron 366's.

Since 99% of the systems I build are for businesses, I don't get a chance to mess around a lot with OC'ing and the like. It is only recently when I've actually gotten around to make time to get back into this :D A LOT has changed!!!

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Originally Posted by Grnfinger

Vista?

If so your looking at a re install, Vista is kinda wimpy on the hard crashes and after a small amount of time you wil need to do a clean install.

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Only happens ingame...

I added 2 more volts to northbridge to see if needed more juice but dont know why it would. Will see if it crashes again.

Also is there any guidelines to what the FSB termination voltage should be set at, ive set mine at lowest cos told lower is better but dont know how you guys know whats good setting is for it, how do you work it out?

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Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs

Cool another Q9450 overclocker. Well, wish you better luck then my Q9450 or 45nm quad support or feedback request. I usually just get ignored by the regulars in this tread dispite my high support I return. Oh well, there's other sites.

I'm sure your questions will get results as I can already see.

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I don't think anyone was ignoring you NF. There just aren't that many 9450 owners out there with this mobo. My Maximus is a Rampage conversion. Bios 403 was a disaster for me. 219 works better on the conversion and my Rampage Formula. IMHO clocks with a 9450 @ 3.6 and below are hardly XS worthy. I want my chips to last at least a year. I haven't pushed Vcore or FSBT over 1.4 on either. That's why I lurk more than I post. ;) The 9450 thread does have some good info with braver soles getting 475 X 8. :yepp:

this is the best I can do with my Q9450 . Im very disapointed , My E8400 run at 4.1ghz (455x9)

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h9...g/Untitled.jpg

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Originally Posted by hotshot100

this is the best I can do with my Q9450 . Im very disapointed , My E8400 run at 4.1ghz (455x9)

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h9...g/Untitled.jpg

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Probably not. Post your bios settings. :) Don't be afraid to run up to 1.40 on vcore and fsbt. The jury is out on whether anything over 1.40 vcore has adverse affects on 45nms. Some say the vcore limit is 1.45. Over 1.40 fsbt seems to be a proven chip killer based on my reading.

Its the Rampage bios

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : 8
FSB Frequency : 434
FSB Strap to North Bridge : auto
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1088mhz
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
DRAM Static Read Control: auto
Ai Clock Twister : light
Transaction Booster : auto

CPU Voltage : 1.325
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52
North Bridge Voltage : 1.59
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage : 1.075
Loadline Calibration : auto
CPU GTL Reference : auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : 8
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enable
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enable
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

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Originally Posted by hotshot100

Its the Rampage bios

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : 8
FSB Frequency : 434
FSB Strap to North Bridge : auto Try the 333 and 400 straps
PCI-E Frequency: 100 Experiment up to 115 if you have an imaging program
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1088mhz Lower frequency till you find max stable cpu
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15 Try 18 above 500mhz or over
DRAM Static Read Control: auto disabled worked for me at 3.6
Ai Clock Twister : light Auto
Transaction Booster : auto

CPU Voltage : 1.325 With loadline in auto I had to set 1.45 to get 1.38 actual
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52 keep below 1.70 actual
North Bridge Voltage : 1.59 [B]I've used 1.70 with Q660 G0s[. Haven't gone over 1.65 with 8Gb on the 9450/B]
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.5 Should be below 1.40 for long term chip life
South Bridge Voltage : 1.075
Loadline Calibration : auto Anandtech recommends against "enabled" I've used it on Q6600s without issues. I'm using Auto on my 9450s
CPU GTL Reference : auto Try 0.63. 0.67 worked for me on one chip with 3.6. Someone else on this site reported 0.63 was correct for 45 nms. :shrug:
North Bridge GTL Reference : auto Try 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : auto Most seem to be using DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : 8
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enable
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled I keep this enabled because I use Vmware
Execute Disable Bit : Enable
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

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Suggestions as to where to experiment are in bold above. Note I edited my post above while you were posting. :) And I had zero luck with bios 403. I'm using 219

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Originally Posted by cadaveca

First, sounds like you did not install XP hotfixes for Crossfire in XP at first.

Secondly, Crossfire makes for just one device. Disable it to get things back to normal. Pain in the butt if you multi-monitor, for sure, but that's how it is.

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Where do I find that?

Thanks for your quick responce

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Originally Posted by ZenEffect

what driver version are you using? catalyst 8.3 tends to destroy your cpu score in crossfire. fastest catalyst for 2900s are 7.11 in 3dmark06. :up:

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I just installed today the new 8.5 that came out. Going to run a new test now with a little bump up 400 x 8.5 , will post in a bit.

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Originally Posted by ZenEffect

what driver version are you using? catalyst 8.3 tends to destroy your cpu score in crossfire. fastest catalyst for 2900s are 7.11 in 3dmark06. :up:

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Do you happen to know what are the best crossfire drivers for Vista [2x HD3870's]

Latest results @ 3.6 GHz (400 X 9)

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/j...Score36GHz.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/j...lizer36GHz.jpg

Whats this crossfire hotfix for XT you guys mentioned and where do I get it?

By the way I had voltages on auto in bios, realy everything was set to auto exept for multiplier and FSB (9 X 400)

Just read an article and it stated that SP3 for Xp contains this fix. Thats why I got better results today I installed SP3 yesterday.

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Originally Posted by cadaveca

First, sounds like you did not install XP hotfixes for Crossfire in XP at first.

Secondly, Crossfire makes for just one device. Disable it to get things back to normal. Pain in the butt if you multi-monitor, for sure, but that's how it is.

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You where right! just found out SP3 had this hotfix I din't have.

Has Anyone else seen or had the following

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1211867738

All of my voltages & temps drop other than the CPU.
I dont think it is temps and i was not loading the machine at all.
I was playing music and that was all. It happens often (within two or three hours of starting the machine. Notice how aacentre.exe and everest.exe are using 25% of my cpu.

Temps and voltages were.

NB=37
SB=35
CPU=1.456
FSB vtt voltage=1.42
CPU pll voltage=1.62
NB voltage=1.7
SB voltage=1.1
DRAM=2V

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Originally Posted by Grnfinger

now do it on the 9 multi:D

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it didn't work! :brick:

are you telling me you got that result on the same settings I'm using??

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Originally Posted by jonathankru

Has Anyone else seen or had the following

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1211867738

All of my voltages & temps drop other than the CPU.
I dont think it is temps and i was not loading the machine at all.
I was playing music and that was all. It happens often (within two or three hours of starting the machine. Notice how aacentre.exe and everest.exe are using 25% of my cpu.

Temps and voltages were.

NB=37
SB=35
CPU=1.456
FSB vtt voltage=1.42
CPU pll voltage=1.62
NB voltage=1.7
SB voltage=1.1
DRAM=2V

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I just went through this, its a pain in the ass to resolve.
Delete Asus Suite and AACenter alltogether, there part of the problem.
Then if you read a few pages back I posted updated chipset drivers, install them and it should be back to normal.

Start > run >type regedit>press crtl +f> type aacenter.
set the value to zero, then delete the file, reboot. AACenter is now removed.

Then install updated NB driver and SB driver

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Originally Posted by scottath

Can you give us a run down of all you settings please Renegade5399

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Originally Posted by MurderCityDevil

what is your cpuPLL set at? I'd like to try your settings as I have never gotten 4 ghz past anything besides instant BSOD upon load.

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Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX

Can you post up your settings and voltages? I have been trying to get it stable its just not working.... chip willl do 3.8ghz so far though.

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Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 445
FSB Strap to North Bridge : ? - I forget ATM
PCI-E Frequency: 112
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1187 - I pulled the Single sided Ballistix and am running 2x1GB OCZ 1066 Reapers
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : Set to 1.55 for 1.53 Real
CPU PLL Voltage : Set to 1.63 for 1.73 Real
North Bridge Voltage : Set to 1.71 for 1.73 Real
DRAM Voltage : Set to 2.18 for 2.28 Real
FSB Termination Voltage : Set to 1.61 for 1.63 Real
South Bridge Voltage : Set to 1.15
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67x
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : Set one above stock

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

Thanks, i'll try them after exams and work tomorrow - now is time to sleep.... [11:36pm here]