and X1900XT VS. X1900XTX + OVERCLOCK VOLTAGE GUIDES

.. ok I get it, but what should I do RIGHT NOW? I'm in quite a shabby position, is there utterly nothing to do?... although appreciate your tip for next time, you disregarded the fact im in deep sh*t as of now :( .

-Jo.

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I had some trouble when using the Sapphire x1900xtx Toxic bios with my HIS 1900XT IceQ3 card. I took the Sapphire x1900xtx Toxic bios & modified it.

What did I change?

I left the stock Toxic speeds but changed all the memory timings to match my HIS timings.

I changed the VGPU Volt from 1.45 (stock) to 1.5 for 3D mode only.

I slightly upped the default fan speed and set more aggressive speeds, dependant on temp.

I've done much testing & my card run's great with this modded bios. I'm trying to find an HIS X1900XTX IceQ3 Turbo bios to play with & mod but can't find one.

Here it is if anyone is interested.

http://rapidshare.de/files/30939969/...o_HIS.rom.html


Here's what you end up seeing in ATI CCC.

http://home.comcast.net/~icer/vid1.bmp

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I have been looking for a program all over the place to mod my X1900XTX Toxic bios for its temps and voltages and speeds, could you please tell me what program you used...

i tryed rabbit v2.1 but when i flashed the bios back to the card in CCC it only reported the 2d clocks as the 3dclocks lol

I also used Rabit 2.1.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y90...r/Untitled.jpg
this is not wath i payed for god damn , sapphire uses 1.2ns rams under a XTX . thy can expect some angry mail !
if i wanted a card with 1.2 i woald buy a X1900XT , but no sapphire use 1.2ns rams on bothe man is this way i pay a extra buck :nono:

nice card

wow, infineon ram too. I wonder when they started doing that? I suppose it saves them money in the long run. The average user would have no clue as they don't remove the stock cooler to check.

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wow, infineon ram too. I wonder when they started doing that? I suppose it saves them money in the long run. The average user would have no clue as they don't remove the stock cooler to check.

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yeah but im not happy i payed for 1.1ns and this is what i get :mad:

Actually you payed for a x1900xtx and that's what you got.

yea well XTX are suppose to come with 1.1ns ram. He is the first and only person to prove otherwise. There isn't a soul in this forum who wouldn't have known better before his post that they weren't getting 1.1ns ram when the bought an XTX, XT perhaps not but XTX yes. I feel bad for him and it isn't his fault.

Hey guys,

I've got a sapphire X1900XT and was just wondering what the chances are that it has BJ11 ram?

I have epoxyed ram sinks on and the core is being cooled by a maze 4 so I cant take the ramsinks off to see if it has the BJ11.

Thanks
Jon

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...101/IMG_18.jpg

I also have a fan over the ramsinks now so temps shouldnt be a problem.

EDIT: Just read a few posts above, looks like I have infineon too.

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yea well XTX are suppose to come with 1.1ns ram. He is the first and only person to prove otherwise. There isn't a soul in this forum who wouldn't have known better before his post that they weren't getting 1.1ns ram when the bought an XTX, XT perhaps not but XTX yes. I feel bad for him and it isn't his fault.

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thx m8 its treu , but il get me sommething els ;)

Sorry I still have no clue on how to translate 1.1ns-to-mhz.speed. But even when I feel bad for you blind_ripper, if your XTX gets to the announced RAM speed, you can't say that's not what you paid for. If the card fails to get there, then that's another story. Even if overdrive can't get to its "max".

Again, I still sorry for you because my first Sapphire was a XT with BJ11, but it was bought in May. I guess Sapphire is trying to lower costs now the cards are sold for less than in May/June.

man i havent checked my chips on my xt yet but i was playing with it the day i got it and i benched 850 without even trying.. i went straight for 900, crashed it and i havent felt like overclocking since... pretty sure that means 1.1... ;)

I'm working on custom making a cooler for it before i have some real fun.

Today I'll have some OC with DI.
Hope I get some results. :gamer:
setup

A64 FX57
DFI nF4 SLI-DR Expert
Powercolor X1900XT
2x512Mb BH5
2x1024Mb UCCC

Wonder why diff speed mem.

i got a problem
my x1900xt asus with stock bios and stock clock , can get 39550 3dmarks01
with XTX bios get 37550 marks wtf ???? anyone what happend?

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Originally Posted by Icer

I had some trouble when using the Sapphire x1900xtx Toxic bios with my HIS 1900XT IceQ3 card. I took the Sapphire x1900xtx Toxic bios & modified it.

What did I change?

I left the stock Toxic speeds but changed all the memory timings to match my HIS timings.

I changed the VGPU Volt from 1.45 (stock) to 1.5 for 3D mode only.

I slightly upped the default fan speed and set more aggressive speeds, dependant on temp.

I've done much testing & my card run's great with this modded bios. I'm trying to find an HIS X1900XTX IceQ3 Turbo bios to play with & mod but can't find one.

Here it is if anyone is interested.

http://rapidshare.de/files/30939969/...o_HIS.rom.html


Here's what you end up seeing in ATI CCC.

http://home.comcast.net/~icer/vid1.bmp

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Hey Ice. So I too have a HIS1900XT Ice3q and flashed my bios to your custom rom. Worked great. I am curious tho about what u did to the timings in the bios. I ham only scoring 5094 for 3dmark 06. Seems kinda low. I am using Catalyst 6.8. Here are my PC specs.

Abit AT832X
Opteron 170 @ 2.7Ghz
Gskill HZ PC500

Everything is pretty much tweaked. Im not running atitool., just running the card @ your 675/800 spec. Just figured i'd score higher in 3dmark. Any idea why?

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Hey Ice. So I too have a HIS1900XT Ice3q and flashed my bios to your custom rom. Worked great. I am curious tho about what u did to the timings in the bios. I ham only scoring 5094 for 3dmark 06. Seems kinda low. I am using Catalyst 6.8. Here are my PC specs.

Abit AT832X
Opteron 170 @ 2.7Ghz
Gskill HZ PC500

Everything is pretty much tweaked. Im not running atitool., just running the card @ your 675/800 spec. Just figured i'd score higher in 3dmark. Any idea why?

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The timings are pretty much the same as your stock bios...It may be your PC holding you back. Look thru this page and compare your score with others close to yours. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...php?t=88168Did

If you start getting lock up's from heat, I made this bios awhile back that has even more aggressive fan speeds dependant on temp's. http://rapidshare.de/files/33651330/...ooler.rom.html

Using the same vid card and bios (675/801) as you, here's what I get using 6.8 cat's in 3DM06. My PC is OC'd to 3.3GHz and my PC spec's are in my sig.

http://home.comcast.net/~icer/3d06_3.3GHz.JPG

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Okay, in an attempt to make it easier to find information, I am going to start one thread and try to keep it all up to date.


THE OVERCLOCKING DATABASE



c.freak : 783/900 with volts at 1.500/2.140/2.130/1.486 this is on water?
andL65 : 783/891 with volts at 1.575/2.250/2.080/1.561 this is on WATER
andL65 : 729/828 with volts at 1.475/2.099/2.099/1.480 this is a X1900XT on air
Alucardu : 669/774 with volts at 1.450/2.201/2.102/1.550 this is a X1900XT on air
einCe : 725/873 with volts at 1.400/2.151/2.151/1.500 this is on stock cooler
Ares323 : 800/882 with volts at 1.575/2.100/2.100/1.500 this is on water
kiwi : 760/900 with volts at 1.575/2.350/2.151/1.526 this is on water
uwackme : 702/801 with volts at 1.520/2.151/2.119/1.510 this is on modified air
einCe : 700/860 with volts at 1.500/2.151/2.119/1.510 this is on stock cooler
sam3755 : 766/845 with volts at 1.575/2.150/2.150/1.500 this is on water
licken : 760/860 with volts at 1.425/2.124/2.086/1.486 this is on water
Sals : 702/819 with volts at 1.475/2.119/2.119/1.500 this is on a stock cooler
Lane-k : 772/891 with volts at 1.475/2.192/2.192/1.500 this is on a stock cooler
Eastcoasthandle : 720/832 with volts at 1.425/2.108/2.108/1.486 this is on a stock cooler
irenic : 725/835 with volts at 1.450/2.130/2.130/1.500 this is on a stock coolre
darksythe : 725/835 with volts at 1.450/2.130/2.130/1.500 this is on a stock coolre
nicepun : 774/891 with volts at 1.575/2.250/2.212/1.526 this is on water
menlatin: : 749/864 with volts at 1.575/2.213/2.086/1.528 this is on water
LivingL@rGe81 : 751/918 with volts at 1.550/2.236/2.160/150 this is on a stock cooler
kesnel : 790/873 with volts at 1.575/2.150/2.102/1.486 this is on water
Kesnel : 725/873 with volts at 1.475/2.150/2.102/1.486, this is on stock cooler
grumpy : 815/900 with volts at 1.500/2.130/2.130/?????, this is on ????? ??????
licken : 740/814 with volts at 1.550/2.086/2.086/1.500, this is on water
Elfear : 750/872 with volts at 1.525/2.200/2.200/1.500, this is on ????? ?????
Chr0n1c : 720/860 with volts at 1.470/2.171/2.124/1.514. this is on stock cooler
Jimbo Mahoney : 790/830 with volts at 1.575/2.151/2.151/1.580, this is on water (silverprop)
menlatin : 732/800 with volts at 1.575/2.086/2.086/1.530, this is on water (home made)
LenniZ : 750/875 with volts at 1.575/2.113/2.086/1.503, this is on ???? ?????
metalman2785 : 725/820 with volts at 1.500/2.100/2.100/1.500, this is on stock cooler

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hummm that's for X1950XTX or X1900XT ??

Rusty and others, in the pic it shows your comp with the slots covers removed. Did you find a decrease in your temos by doing this?

I thought that if you removed them your air flow through the case would not be as efficient. I am getting my x1900xt tommorow I guess I will see myself soon enough.

Guys....I've been reading this thread, and just gotta couple of questions, since I got an x1900XT coming this week :D

1. is the flashing procedure on pg1 still valid to flash the bios to a x1900xtx? I have a 256MB card coming rather than the 512mb...will this make a difference?

2. seems like a lot of people are just using the catalyst control panel 'ATI Overdrive' section to overclock this guy...is this the way to go, or remain with the ATItool at techpowerup?

I dont wanna OC'it too much, as I plan to keep stock cooling, and dont want to raise the heat/noise ratio too much. Just wanna squeeze a little more power and fps out of it.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3.../XTXSpeeds.jpg

CPU is really holding me back and i have yet to max out my GFX clocks!
Its a Powercolor X1900XT running at XTX speeds and uses BJ-11 rams.. im suprised that the Sapphire cards are using 1.2ns rams... wtf were they thinking?

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The timings are pretty much the same as your stock bios...It may be your PC holding you back. Look thru this page and compare your score with others close to yours. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...php?t=88168Did

If you start getting lock up's from heat, I made this bios awhile back that has even more aggressive fan speeds dependant on temp's. http://rapidshare.de/files/33651330/...ooler.rom.html

Using the same vid card and bios (675/801) as you, here's what I get using 6.8 cat's in 3DM06. My PC is OC'd to 3.3GHz and my PC spec's are in my sig.

http://home.comcast.net/~icer/3d06_3.3GHz.JPG

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Something was screwy. I just updated my ati drivers to the 6.9 version and scored 6080. Still a far cry from your score. Guess the conroe really makes a difference. Thanks again for the help, Ice.

can anybody tell me if those results in the first page are for X1950XTX or X1900XT ???

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can anybody tell me if those results in the first page are for X1950XTX or X1900XT ???

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isn't it clear from the thread's title