I read in another thread that a new mobo for socket 479 was coming out with support for pci express, 2nd gen sata, ddr2, and a better chipset.
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I read in another thread that a new mobo for socket 479 was coming out with support for pci express, 2nd gen sata, ddr2, and a better chipset.
"VIA to Start Shipping Pentium M Chipsets Next Month"
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mobile/...113113125.html
shortly only one chanell DDR
In that article ia also some informations about Alviso.... Should suport DUAL CHANELL DDR2
It`s also good to see this:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mobile/...129061220.html
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Originally Posted by malfunction!
I get this too :( No sound when overclocked. Guess ill just have to buy a sound card for gaming.
Current overclock (Dothan 1.5 in Aopen board with volt - pin mod giving me 1.5v): 142x15 (2.13Ghz). Mem at 3:4 so have it at 189Mhz.
This gives me a 37sec Super Pi.
I tried to push the FSB to 150 but it wont post. The voltage fluctuates a bit in CDUZ...from 1.49 to 1.51. Might this cause instability? Also my CPU temps are around 50-55 degrees (stock cooling).
Would a copper cooler help? Might my PSU be a bit unstable? :) Its a 240w that comes with my Silverstone Lascala case.
Thanks in advance guys.
edit: new AOpen Bios out - Click
Sound goes *poff* as soon as you start upping the fsb. That is because it can't handle over stock pci speed. Since 66/33 lock don't work, onboard sound cant be used if you want to OC. Buy a cheap SB Live or something to get sound ;)
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Originally Posted by Cyprio
Might be your graphics card stopping you from posting @ 150. My system is Prime 95 stable at 150 but 3DMark03 crashes - I'm not 100% sure what the AGP bus will be running at (could be 75MHz (150 * 0.5) or 100Mhz (150 * 0.66)...) The card is a Radeon 9600 so I'm presuming it's 75MHz... I doubt it would post at all at 100MHz. Which particular case have you got it in? Mine's in an LC11 and never gets above low 40s even after overnight Prime 95 testing @ 1.8GHz (150 x 12 is as high as I can get)... But then again I haven't done the wire mod (yet ;)). Which setting are you using in the bios to get the RAM at 3:4? My board just refuses to go there unless the FSB is 100MHz... Wondering if it's just incompatible with the RAM (reading the SPD wrong or something) as it also refuses to go 3:5 even at 100Mhz... The RAM I'm using is PC2700 (333MHz) but is good for 400MHz+ no problem... It's hard to say it but I really don't think a copper cooler would make a lot of difference - worth trying I suppose but the chips are rated to 100 celcius so I doubt 55 c is causing any problems. Can't hurt though. Be aware that you need something that mounts via springs / screws not the normal bracket as with the normal bracket it just won't be touching the CPU (but will be floating about 2mm above it). I have a couple of p4 copper coolers here that don't make contact (though I may try and mod a bracket at some point to lower it)
Thinking of doing exactly that... Have *any* of the AGP / PCI lock settings been confirmed to work on the AOpen? Is it at least setting dividers correctly? (i.e. could we pin mod the CPUs to a 133MHz FSB and that way at least force it to use a /2 divider for AGP and a /4 for PCI... Ought to give some more headroom if we can - especially for people with ATI cards like me!)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shep
75/37 and 88/44 works. But they do have random hickups. That means that sometmes they suddenly don't work, reset a couple of times then it kicks in again. No clue why it behaves that way, it just does.
Thanks for that - setting it to 75/37 has made it prime AND 2k3 stable @ 12 x 150 - still can't get much more than that though. Have also shortened the retention frame for my copper heatsink (Akasa AK-370) so now running passive and still getting good temps even when overclocked (and all the case fans are running at reduced speeds)... With the case fan nearest the CPU on full it only reaches around 45 celcius at full load... You've gotta love these CPUs! Also - I was load testing with the case open and noticed that the NB heatsink is fairly warm @ 150MHz FSB whereas @ 100MHz it's cool so maybe some active NB cooling would help? (Or just a better passive heatsink than the Aopen gimick one)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shep
I got my combo finally on thursday... my 1.7GHz Dottie is DA BOMB!. Easily over 2700MHz wit 1.484Vcore wit Zalman 7000AlCu air(Prime load 43C, case open) . 3:4 divider, 170MHz/Fsb, 226MHz/Mem. Pifast 1M 28s and 3Dmarks over 30k wit X800 Pro@XT PE default clocks =)
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8370220
Very interesting that 3D works without a glitch wit these clocks!
Hint to malfunction... put the AGP/PCI to 88/44 when over ~150. Then you also have to get soundcard which can manage 44PCI clock. I was also about 150ish before i put the lock on.. now over 170fsb is easy. Only problem is that i don´t have sound yet because of the high PCI clock. Maybe have to buy on external USB -soundcard. :|
what board are you using? dfi or aopen? the cooler makes me think aopen with its retention module...
/e checked the orb-link, aopen iti is... good to know :D
Will give it a go... Did the Zalman mount OK or did you have to modify the retention frame?Quote:
Originally Posted by luseruser
I think GamePc used that heatsink in their original review, so im guessing that it fits with no modification necessary.
What memory did you use? I want to get some faster mem, but am not sure what to get due to the low voltage of the vdimms. Your sig says KHX3000, is that Kingston?
Jesh.. very happy saturday night goin´on here ...some "soup" and OC-in´ ...what could be better ..eh? :toast:
Mobo Aopen, memory Kingston KHX3000/512MB BH5@2-2-2-5 wit DDR-Booster sittin´on the other slot. Modded the Zalmans retention system a little. Put some 1mm plastic plate under the retention latch. Showed the knife to some cellulite lotion tube of my babe, fortunately shes used to my ways wit the computer :p: :banana:
Got the sound workin allright also! Old SB live woke up only when i put the "Spread Sprectum" option ON in the bios. Now at 0,7% down settin´ ...when it was on OFF or 0,5% center settin´the computer would hang soon after the post before windows loading. But now everything is workin´just swell.
Also before my PATA Hitachi 7k250 HD would only get about 73MB/s in HD-Tach wit 88/44 lock-setting but now after applyin´ the spread srectum the burst is at normal level 95MB/s :p:
It has been some exiting couple of days learning the secrets of the board. First i was thinkin if this was a wise decicion at all to buy the setup. There are after all many gimmics because of the not so good AGP/PCI -locks. Now i can say that this combo is worth every cent... i´m afraid to think what this setup will do under my Zalman waterblock ..i still have 17X multi in the warehouse ..over 2800 with water should be a walk in the park.
There will still be many enjoyable days tuning this rig up... maybe a Vdimm mod so i can put 1GB of mem in. At this moment the saying "Indecent speed" comes somehow in to my mind... :slobber:
hm got an interesting offer today. dothan 715 (1.5ghz, 2mb) with 478 pins? wtf. it's said to run in socket 479 boards, but also in the p4m based boards. also being an intel-noob, where's the difference in socket-layout with the p4 regarding this chip? i know it's a whole different stoy with 479 pin dothans, but what is this? a crossbreed? or just a regular 479 dothan minus a pin? also it isn't the normalsocket 478 pin layout... so what gives? and what p4m boards are there - any decent chipsets, dual channel anybody?
sSpec Number: SL7GL
Processor Frequency: 1.50 GHz
CPUID String: 06D6h
Package Type: 478 pin PPGA
Bus Speed: 400 MHz
Thermal Guideline: 21.0W
Core Stepping: B1
L2 Cache Size: 2 MB
Manufacturing Technology: 90nm
attached is a piccy of the actual chip (top side & bottom) - i found it odd...
All dothans are 478 pins, they just dont fit in the socket 478 youre used to seeing, different pin arrangement.
wait there`s some that intel lists as 479 bga... guess these are the ones with the bga-solderballs
correct! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by sky
Can anyone give me a high resolution pin-layout of the S479 and S478, ik cant find it anywhere.
I'm planning to make an adaptor but then al pins need to be connected in the right way.
I'm hoping the bios of a normal S478 would take the cpu and also that DC works well.
The bios probably reconizes it as a P4A because of the 100mhz fsb.
I allso have my doubt about the signal-loss with copper wires of 2-3cm and if I should make every wire as short as possible or keep them al at the same length. Ik think it would be better to keep them al at the same length though.
Amplefying a few hundred wires is undoable offcourse.
So can anyone please give me a link to a s478 and s479 with numbers, and explanation of al the different pins?, thanx alot !!!
is there any news on a ETA of the REV2 DFI i855 mobo? im considerin jus buyin the Aopen mobo, or should i try and hold out for the DFi? :stick:
Is this a known problem? I've never heard of this before. I always believed disabling the spread spectrum was best for overclockingQuote:
Originally Posted by luseruser
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Same here... always left it disabled before .. i just had to try somethin because of the hangin´in the post and i had tried just about everything else. This seemed atleast to cure totally the HD-burst levels when AGP/PCI-lock is at 88/44 position. However next day the hangs continued to happen in the post. Without the soundcard there would be none of these hangs. So i switched the soundcard to another SB -live and also enabled the Promise SATA wit another Hitachi 7k250 Drive and now that hangin seems to be gone away alltogether. So the good news is that Promise SATA -controller works also with 88/44 locks.Quote:
Originally Posted by kristos
However still quite often you have to hit the power button couple of times.. sometimes it refuses to post at all and another times it freeses during windows load. Second or third boot after restart or bios setting change is always succesful. I think that these boot problems are separate of the ones i described in the first paragraff(soundcard originated). Something to do with the motherboard handling bios changes and booting. After the windows is loaded the rig is rock stable at 2700MHz (Prime95, 3D-games, SuperPi). :)
Yesterday installed first game (HL2) to this rig. The overal smoothines is something else... i mean A64 3200+ Winnie S939@2500MHz didn´t even come close to the experience. Resolution 1600X1200 AA4X, AF8X, wit high details my X800 Pro VIVO@XT PE spitted out grafics at the level that the maps felt like they were on quick silver :D
New bios for Aopen 1.07 ..flashed it straight away and it seems to work ok.
Did the Vdimm mod so now i could free the other mem slot which was formerly occupied by DDR Booster. Now running 2 X 512MB OCZ3700EB CL2,5-2-2-5 on the board. Divider 3:4, FSB 179MHz MEM 239MHz, Multi X16 = 2690MHz. 512MB for HL2 wasn´t clearly enough but now this thing flies. Tomorrow will try some KHX BH5 to get CL2 and more performance :cool:
will those be khx3200/512, those doublesided thingies? if so,make them fly. mine never really took off with my abit nf2 boards (nf7s & an7). also what's the max vdimm you've been feeding your aopen (via vdimm / booster)?
tia
yeah should be good. :D These boards have their weirdness at times but otherwise these things seem real nice.
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