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09-11-2009, 09:21 PM
purefun65

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Originally Posted by Chad Boga

In comparing Physx to Eyefinity, as I am in the market for a new video card, I could buy either next gen Nvidia or next gen ATI based on which card I am more impressed by, and I would get which ever feature free at no cost.

However to take advantage of Eyefinity, I need to buy extra monitors, have the extra deskspace(no small consideration by the way), and then find games that wouldn't suffer slow down at these high resolutions(and that I would want to play).

No doubt Nvidia will implement their own version of Eyefinity if not in the GT300 series, then their next series, so at least it will disappear as a talking point about advantages.

As for Physics in games, I get the feeling that Physx is unlikely to triumph, as something that will run potentially equally well on either maker's cards will need to surface for everyone to get behind it.

once again this is not ABOUT GAMES. your consumer group is small in the real world.:up:
09-11-2009, 09:24 PM
Sh1tyMcGee

Honestly i havnt been this excited about a video card releases since the 8800GTX, im proud of ATI, as long as the card performs better than a GTX 295.
09-11-2009, 09:30 PM
Chad Boga

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Originally Posted by purefun65

once again this is not ABOUT GAMES.

Yeah it is about Microsoft Office. :bs:
09-11-2009, 09:38 PM
purefun65

You tin foil hats save us millions on R&D and we love you guys. Thats why we Throw you a bone. you guys save us millions on R&d. nuff said:shocked: when i worked for intel we we were anti-overclocking. that is a thing of the past.
09-11-2009, 10:02 PM
ajaidev

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Originally Posted by Xope_Poquar

I wish Ruby had less testosterone. :(

I wish Ruby had less clothing. :yepp:
09-11-2009, 10:06 PM
Zorlac

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Originally Posted by Sh1tyMcGee

Honestly i havnt been this excited about a video card releases since the 8800GTX, im proud of ATI, as long as the card performs better than a GTX 295.

I agree! I have never even owned an ATI card, but that is about to change. ;)
09-11-2009, 10:11 PM
Final8ty

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Originally Posted by cegras

Furthermore, there is no reason to enable AA / AF at such high resolutions. If I recall the rationale correctly, the higher the resolution you go, the less image smoothing you need. This is why Left4Dead is playable at 11 megapixels.

Snip!

I only wish that were true.
The problem is that its not more resolution is the same space & i need just as much AA as others on smaller lower res monitors.
Being able to sit a bit further back can help with needing less AA when the gfx card aint upto the job on a particular game

The pixel density is higher on the 30" displays but it does not make up for AA.
AF is not really effected by the resolution of the monitor. A blurry texture is a blurry texture at any res.
09-11-2009, 10:14 PM
Oberon

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Originally Posted by Chad Boga

Yeah it is about Microsoft Office. :bs:

... or about those of us that have a genuine need for that sort of screen real estate.
09-11-2009, 10:16 PM
blindbox

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Originally Posted by Chad Boga

My idea is that Eyefinity is little more than a pointless gimmick, why are some so keen to suppress this idea?

If by exchange ideas you simply mean that we can only say positive things about new features, then I think your idea of "exchange" is not all it could be.

You do realise it is not only for gamers? Those who likes to view stock graphs, go ahead and buy nvidia with their physx, yay.

Yes, go ahead and choose PhysX. I'm pretty sure a lot of games will play with 3 monitors smoothly too. They've just demo'ed it.
09-11-2009, 10:48 PM
ajaidev

Just imagine this in 6 monitor or 3 monitor configuration :>

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/Data...Engine3_02.jpg

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/Data...Engine3_01.jpg

:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
09-11-2009, 11:03 PM
vietthanhpro

video Cry Engine :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04dMyeMKHp4
09-11-2009, 11:11 PM
lowdog

Ha ha.....from here; http://venturebeat.com/2009/09/10/am...uter-displays/

Wow, nVidia realy think physX is the ants pants.

Acer, Dell, HP, MSI and Toshiba are creating computers using AMD’s latest graphics chips. In response, Nvidia said in a statement, “The gaming world has moved to dynamic realism, which depicts actual physical movement more realistically than ever before. For example, the No. 1 PC game coming out next week is ‘Batman: Arkham Assyum,’ which takes advantage of graphics plus physics to give it extraordinary realism. Because we support GPU-accelerated physics, our $129 card that’s shipping today is faster than their new RV870 (code name for new AMD chips) that sells for $399.”
09-11-2009, 11:22 PM
Solus Corvus

So nVidia got benchmarks before we did?! :mad::mad::mad:

:rofl::ROTF::rofl::ROTF:
09-11-2009, 11:48 PM
AKM

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Because we support GPU-accelerated physics, our $129 card that’s shipping today is faster than their new RV870 (code name for new AMD chips) that sells for $399.”

LMAO

Can't blame them though, until their next gen cards are out this is their only possible response to AMDs onslaught.
09-12-2009, 12:01 AM
DelaMaris

http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/a...9/f9e7c325.jpg

http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/a...9/79fb7340.jpg

Copyright by CzechGamer
09-12-2009, 12:02 AM
jaredpace

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Originally Posted by lowdog

Ha ha.....

Nvidia said in a statement, “The gaming world has moved to dynamic realism, which depicts actual physical movement more realistically than ever before. For example, the No. 1 PC game coming out next week is ‘Batman: Arkham Assyum,’ which takes advantage of graphics plus physics to give it extraordinary realism. Because we support GPU-accelerated physics, our $129 card that’s shipping today is faster than their new RV870 (code name for new AMD chips) that sells for $399.”

:rofl:
09-12-2009, 12:02 AM
Newblar

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Originally Posted by AKM

LMAO

Can't blame them though, until their next gen cards are out this is their only possible response to AMDs onslaught.

wow that has got to be the dumbest thing ive ever heard
09-12-2009, 12:05 AM
jaredpace

http://www.overclock.net/customavata...ar65891_14.gif >"Nvidia's statement, or AKM's response??"

hah
09-12-2009, 12:05 AM
flopper

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Originally Posted by AKM

LMAO

Can't blame them though, until their next gen cards are out this is their only possible response to AMDs onslaught.

The odd reactions are due where people been acustomed to a specific set of expected new stuff from a specific field in this case videocards.
And when this changes, not just how videocards been expected to be like but adding a new experience as the displaysupport ati has done, this forces some people to adversity as it dont fit their view of what a videocard should be like.
And even if its optional, that wont matter.
Lucky for us, they dont make them ;)

Nvidia and their response will be typical, Nvidia.
Anyone still play single games?
Multiplayer games online, MMOG etc..that where stuff rocks.
09-12-2009, 12:09 AM
LockBreaker

How far away are these cards? Are we talking days, weeks or even months?
09-12-2009, 12:15 AM
jaredpace

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Originally Posted by LockBreaker

How far away are these cards? Are we talking days, weeks or even months?

You can buy one in 2 weeks!
09-12-2009, 12:31 AM
AMDDeathstar

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Originally Posted by lowdog

Ha ha.....from here; http://venturebeat.com/2009/09/10/am...uter-displays/

Wow, nVidia realy think physX is the ants pants.

Nvidia said in a statement, “The gaming world has moved to dynamic realism, which depicts actual physical movement more realistically than ever before. For example, the No. 1 PC game coming out next week is ‘Batman: Arkham Assyum,’ which takes advantage of graphics plus physics to give it extraordinary realism. Because we support GPU-accelerated physics, our $129 card that’s shipping today is faster than their new RV870 (code name for new AMD chips) that sells for $399.”

That's good to know, I already have 9800GT.
I guess we won't need that DX11 stuff either.

NOT!:down:
09-12-2009, 12:35 AM
FischOderAal

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Originally Posted by jaredpace

You can buy one in 2 weeks!

Nothing in the future is certain ;) Imho you should've written "You should be able to buy one in 2 weeks!"
09-12-2009, 12:39 AM
AKM

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Originally Posted by Newblar

wow that has got to be the dumbest thing ive ever heard

Please tell me what's so dumb about it? I'm just pointing out that NV is using PhysX as a weak response to AMD's new cards.
09-12-2009, 12:41 AM
LockBreaker

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Originally Posted by jaredpace

You can buy one in 2 weeks!

You see, both my HD4890's died this week. Dunno why, they just passed away. And I arranged it so that I could trade them in for two GPU's in the same pricerange. I suppose I could wait a little bit before I RMA'ed them, so that I could buy some cards from the newer series. I would of course have to pay a possible shim thats getting in the way. :)

Do you guys think thats possible or is the HD5xxx series too far away?

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