!UPDATE! abit AW9D-Max (retail) arrived

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Originally Posted by Hassan

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=132047

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=131378

you're asking a 50watt tec to move 200watts of heat, with a low heat processor that cooler may work well, but as you scale in heat output it cannot keep up, especially kents... I'm trying to help you not possibly burn your processor, and moreso possibly stop your cpu from throttling. 6000 seti pts a week is good but consider my kent put out 3k - 4k pts/day @ 60C in coretemp

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Well according to the front panel(Which is hardware and Not Software, I know the difference) of the Vigor Monsoon II the cold plate is reading 35C right now, Of course that is cause of the uneven load due to a faulty Bios not overclocking the cpu evenly like It should and does on My P5W which is at 45C currently, The P5W is at 36C according to Speedfan 4.31, I won't use Core Temp as It doesn't come close to what the hardware is telling Me. I do pretty good in Seti, I'm 9th out of 169 team members and in 29 days or so I'll get to 8th place, I out produce the top guy right now too, Right now My Rac is 9126.88 and I only have 4 PCs too.

http://boinc.mundayweb.com/one/stats...=4709&trans=on

Also as I said earlier I don't get any reboots when the ram is set to 1:1, Just at 2:3 and that is cause the NB heatsink sucks, Otherwise It's completly stable, So the Reboots are not caused by a cpu heat problem which is FUD.

Tweaktown has a review of the Vigor Monsoon II and It's here.
The cpu is a hot Athlon FX-53 of course.
http://images.tweaktown.com/imagebank/vmon_results.gif
Of course PC Perspectives has an earlier review too(No I don't work there, I just hang out there, As It's a hobby for Me).
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=273&type=expert
The Monsoon II control module also contains an audible alarm that will sound if the temperature drops below 15°C or rises above 70°C.
http://www.pcper.com/images/reviews/...ooler-Diag.jpg

I thought Seti was closed down

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Originally Posted by JokerCPoC

Well according to the front panel(Which is hardware and Not Software, I know the difference) of the Vigor Monsoon II the cold plate is reading 35C right now

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First, the temps your trusting as golden are being provided by the hardware in question in support of itself. So if it said it was cooling your cpu to -10 degrees, would you believe that also.

Unless your using some sort of probe to provide real temps i wouldnt be so confident in what the monsoon is telling you.

Second, it seems like your have no real interest in believing what you've been told time and time again. The monsoon isnt sufficient in cooling a kent at a high oc let alone a moderate one. You arent the only person to ever make an uninformed purchase but no matter how much denial your in, it doesnt really make the truth any different. Air tecs arent very good.

Third, this discussion has gotten incredibly off topic and turned into a free for all about your general ocing problems aw9d-max related or otherwise. If you wish to continue about the monsoon and feel you have some real documentation and results to back your position then continue that in the air cooling or tec cooling sub-forum.

LOL FX53???

Your air tec is garbage. A 50W TEC wont move 200+ watts of heat.

Kunnak runs his QX6700 higher on the stock heatsink than you do on that TEC POS, guess why...:stick:

i can only get around 379 x 9 stable.....however i can get like 410x7 stable...

idk i dont want to think it is my cpu but it might be

1.51vcore
1.75vmch.... 2.1 vdimm....

anything i could be missing

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Originally Posted by fastback88

i can only get around 379 x 9 stable.....however i can get like 410x7 stable...

idk i dont want to think it is my cpu but it might be

1.51vcore
1.75vmch.... 2.1 vdimm....

anything i could be missing

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mch undervolts, 2.0v in bios was ~1.89 real for me.

Is there any chance to make 470-480 @1:1 with a special bios for instance? Just for PI 1M;)

I mean WITHOUT any kind of mods....

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Originally Posted by ghosty1234

Is there any chance to make 470-480 @1:1 with a special bios for instance? Just for PI 1M;)

I mean WITHOUT any kind of mods....

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NO......:D

ONLY with mods you could bench up there....;)

will a tuniq 120 fit on the abit AW9D-Max
I found posts with verification,thanks anyhow

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Originally Posted by fhpchris

mch undervolts, 2.0v in bios was ~1.89 real for me.

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can confirm this! what i measured on my aw9d-max:

setting in bios idle before vmch booster load before vmch booster idle after vmch booster load after vmch booster

1,50 1,427 1,421 1,464 1,464
1,55 1,474 1,468 1,511 1,511
1,60 1,524 1,517 1,563 1,563
1,65 1,566 1,559 1,606 1,606
1,70 1,613 1,606 1,655 1,655
1,75 1,661 1,654 1,705 1,705
1,80 1,710 1,702 1,755 1,755
1,85 1,755 1,748 1,802 1,802
1,90 1,806 1,798 1,854 1,854
1,95 1,851 1,843 1,901 1,901
2,00 1,900 1,891 1,951 1,952

you can see clearly the improvement to vmch stability by hipros vmch booster mod! voltage drop is half of the drop as it was without the mod. also, after applying this mod, the drop between idle and load went away completely after installing the mod!

load measurements were done after a few minutes in orthos.

ok here is main question

could not having enough vmch limit my OC with 9x multi?

7x i can do 410 + but with 9x only 370-380

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Originally Posted by fastback88

ok here is main question

could not having enough vmch limit my OC with 9x multi?

7x i can do 410 + but with 9x only 370-380

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If 7x can do 410, 9x should be able to do 410.

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Originally Posted by fastback88

ok here is main question

could not having enough vmch limit my OC with 9x multi?

7x i can do 410 + but with 9x only 370-380

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Originally Posted by fhpchris

If 7x can do 410, 9x should be able to do 410.

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agree to fhpchris!

would suspect vcore be too low ...

what does this mean as far as read points

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...0&postcount=47

i dont understand

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Originally Posted by fhpchris

LOL FX53???

Your air tec is garbage. A 50W TEC wont move 200+ watts of heat.

Kunnak runs his QX6700 higher on the stock heatsink than you do on that TEC POS, guess why...:stick:

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The silly new air/TEC hybrid coolers are just a big heatpipe sink with a 50w TEC on the top of the baseplate that touches the CPU. The TEC doesn't contact the CPU.

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Originally Posted by fastback88

what does this mean as far as read points

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...0&postcount=47

i dont understand

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if you are looking for vcore readout points you find them on the back of the board. this coils are soldered to the board at two contact points. the contact point closer to the cpu socket is the place to measure vcore.
as the post says, you can also measure at one of the two contacts of the capacitor. the correct one is easy to find, because one of them is ground and the other one vcore. i personally use the coils, as the soldering points of the coils are pretty big and easy to access.

Dear AW9D-Max users,

I am the proud owner of a Abit AW9D-Max mobo. Rock solid, quality build.

Now there are some issues that may be solved by a new bios (or not)

1. The possibility to run 4:5 DDR1000 @ 4-4-4-15 even @ stock is impossible
2. The possibility to run 1:1 DDR1000 @ 4-4-4-15 even @ stock is impossible
3. The possibility to run 1:1 DDR800 @ 3-3-3-10 even @ stock is impossible
4. The possibility to adjust cpu vtt to 1.4v (very high overclocks possible !)
5. The possibility to adjust all of the termination voltages
6. The ability to go above FSB 438 from the bios
7. I had the program the SPD because of extreme instability with alle Abit bios versions. Tony (OCZ) helped me out

I know that there are serveral 975x mobos wich can do DDR1000 @ 4-4-4-15 and DDR800 @ 3-3-3-10 (Asus P5W DH deluxe/Bad Axe 2). It seems a NB timing issue.

My current setup:

AW9D-Max with active nb cooler
OCZ Ti Alpha PC8000 @ 4-4-4-15. Micron D9GMH
E6600 @ 9*400 3.6 ghz @ 1:1 DDR800 @ 4-3-3-4-20 timings
vMCH 1.75v
vCore 1.4375v
vDimm 2.35v
1066 FSB strap
WD raptor 74 gb
eVGA 8800 GTX @ 640/1500/2100
OCZ GameXtreem 600w
Thermaltake Armor with 25 cm side fan
Tuniq Tower

With these settings the system is 24 hours orthos stable. But i cannot overclock beyond FSB 438, doesnt matter what voltage or strap. The system is completely stable @ 8*438 set in BIOS, but @ 439 no boot ! In Windows the FSB can be set @ 8*450 wich is rock solid.

I hope this info is usefull for you,

1.4 Final is available.
ftp://ftp.abit.com.tw/pub/download/bios/aw9d

Noticed fgw's post a bit earlier and flashed immediately using flashmenu. No performance numbers yet (judging from my temps and my many attempts to improve cooling, it looks like I've got a concave 6600 that is in serious need of a good lapping before I'm going to achieve suitable cooling for proper oc'ing) but it didn't bork my box so that's a good sign at least.

Im interested to see how people feel about this new bios. Im going to be selling this mobo, I loved the speed, but I really needed a board to get my 6600 @4.0 (with no board mods)

why do i neet way more vcore then on other boards ? :(
is vfsb mod helping any ? if i dont had this issue id never give this board away.

I find i need less for the same clock speed. 1.475 for 3552 mhz on the aw9d-max vs 1.4825 on the ICFX3200.

I've updated BIOS 14. Can't boot with 2 RAM modules. Only 1. Downgraded back to 13.

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Im interested to see how people feel about this new bios. Im going to be selling this mobo, I loved the speed, but I really needed a board to get my 6600 @4.0 (with no board mods)

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i also had the same experience. Would not boot with 2 modules on 2 different sets of memeory.

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Originally Posted by ccokeman

I find i need less for the same clock speed. 1.475 for 3552 mhz on the aw9d-max vs 1.4825 on the ICFX3200.

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im having the same results coming from a p5wdh

u guys made sure to clear cmos after flashing ?

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Originally Posted by ccokeman

I find i need less for the same clock speed. 1.475 for 3552 mhz on the aw9d-max vs 1.4825 on the ICFX3200.

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at least i can clock far better with my p965 boards.
for example, i can prime on asus commando for hours with 1,34v @ 3,6ghz.
with aw9d max its impossible to do that below 1,4v with the same cpu.

BUT my p5w also needed less vcore then the abit :(

2 modules works just fine here. Using Cellshock by the way.

is it possible to fit Thermalright Ultra 120 and HR-05 on AW9D-MAX? space is enough?

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Originally Posted by jugeen

is it possible to fit Thermalright Ultra 120 and HR-05 on AW9D-MAX? space is enough?

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i use a thermaltake big type which is just a few mm smaller (122mm compared to 132mm) than your ultra 120. in combination with an hr05-sli, it fits almost perfectly. have a look:
Attachment 56600

in my installation, the hr05-sli is overlapping the ttbt by about 15mm which does not really matter, as the hr05 is a huge overkill in cooling the nb on the aw9d-max especially when a fan is moving some air through the hr05-sli. the fan i'm using is mounted in the case. the red square on the picture symbols the fan location in relation to the hr05-sli. you can also place a fan directly on the hr05-sli. in order to fit, i had to bend the heatpipes a little, which was an easy 5 seconds job. i also moved the ddr2 modules from slots 1+3 into slots 2+4. this might not be necessary. depends what fan you plan to use with your ultra 120 (25mm or 38mm).

I'm using vmch at 1.85v , the board is unmodded , is this way too much or can I live with that?:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by cjordan61

I'm using vmch at 1.85v , the board is unmodded , is this way too much or can I live with that?:rolleyes:

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Thats pushing it.. :nono:

1.95 on the vmch has been fine for me since november. Stock cooling until 3 weeks ago.

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Originally Posted by ccokeman

1.95 on the vmch has been fine for me since november. Stock cooling until 3 weeks ago.

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I should be OK then. The strange thing is that I started beeing stable at 1.75, after 2 months I needed to go to 1.8 and then now I nedd 1.85 to get it stable, I don.t understand what couses this. Nothing has changed , mem is OK. Could ther be any problems with voltage regulators , are they slowly wearing down? Coused be heat. I'm watercooled and have stock cooling on NB with a 40mm fan on top of NB.

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Originally Posted by cjordan61

I should be OK then. The strange thing is that I started beeing stable at 1.75, after 2 months I needed to go to 1.8 and then now I nedd 1.85 to get it stable, I don.t understand what couses this. Nothing has changed , mem is OK. Could ther be any problems with voltage regulators , are they slowly wearing down? Coused be heat. I'm watercooled and have stock cooling on NB with a 40mm fan on top of NB.

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intel specifies the 975x chipset functional operating voltage up to 1.575v and the absolute maximum rating up to 1.65v.
taking voltage drop on the motherboard into account, you are leaving intel specified voltage ranges above 1.70v vmch selected in bios.

this is from intels data sheet:
At conditions exceeding absolute maximum and minimum ratings, neither functionality nor long-term reliability can be expected. Moreover, if a device is subjected to these conditions for any length of time then, when returned to conditions within the functional operating condition limits, it will either not function, or its reliability will be severely degraded.

as this chipset is around not that long, nobody (maybe besides intel itself) has experience on longterm effects running voltages outside this ranges.
some users already reported the same symptoms you are experiencing right now. they all used high voltages, either on the chipset or on the processor or most likely on both of them and had to increase voltage from time to time in order to keep their system stable.
i can't say the reason for this is the fact that they run their components at higher voltages as they are rated for, but who knows ...
don't get me wrong, i'm not telling you don't do that, it's up to you. just keep in mind, to use a dmm to check real voltages (as the readings in bios and various utilities are way off) and take care of sufficient cooling.
i myself try to stay within intel specs as long as possible, but if i want even higher clocks i won't hesitate a second and rise voltages as high as needed! currently running an e6400@3600MHz at 1,50v on the quadgt.

hey, we are on xtremesystems and i don't plan to use my processor or chipset for my whole life. it's very likely i upgrade within the next 12 months anyway, so i don't care if i kill my processor or chipset a few days earlier ...

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Originally Posted by fgw

intel specifies the 975x chipset functional operating voltage up to 1.575v and the absolute maximum rating up to 1.65v.
taking voltage drop on the motherboard into account, you are leaving intel specified voltage ranges above 1.70v vmch selected in bios.

this is from intels data sheet:
At conditions exceeding absolute maximum and minimum ratings, neither functionality nor long-term reliability can be expected. Moreover, if a device is subjected to these conditions for any length of time then, when returned to conditions within the functional operating condition limits, it will either not function, or its reliability will be severely degraded.

as this chipset is around not that long, nobody (maybe besides intel itself) has experience on longterm effects running voltages outside this ranges.
some users already reported the same symptoms you are experiencing right now. they all used high voltages, either on the chipset or on the processor or most likely on both of them and had to increase voltage from time to time in order to keep their system stable.
i can't say the reason for this is the fact that they run their components at higher voltages as they are rated for, but who knows ...
don't get me wrong, i'm not telling you don't do that, it's up to you. just keep in mind, to use a dmm to check real voltages (as the readings in bios and various utilities are way off) and take care of sufficient cooling.
i myself try to stay within intel specs as long as possible, but if i want even higher clocks i won't hesitate a second and rise voltages as high as needed! currently running an e6400@3600MHz at 1,50v on the quadgt.

hey, we are on xtremesystems and i don't plan to use my processor or chipset for my whole life. it's very likely i upgrade within the next 12 months anyway, so i don't care if i kill my processor or chipset a few days earlier ...

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People have run up to 2.4v on 975 boards and had no issues, but 2.0v in bios on a stock board should be fine 24-7.(~1.88v real)

Remember that 975 is 110nm, its not a newer process or anything...

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Originally Posted by jugeen

I've updated BIOS 14. Can't boot with 2 RAM modules. Only 1. Downgraded back to 13.

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Originally Posted by ccokeman

i also had the same experience. Would not boot with 2 modules on 2 different sets of memeory.

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Originally Posted by century child

2 modules works just fine here. Using Cellshock by the way.

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^mem voltage issue, and that just killz the mobo for me right there

even 1x geil pc6400 3-3-3-8 wont boot, i have to boot with 1x supertalent pc6400 module and change vmem to < first

i miss the old abit :(

hope the next mobos are better

2.0v since the board came out=)

no ram problems here at DDR2 800 3-3-3-8 2.25v 1:1. The only thing i noticed is that it hates the 667 setting when overclocking ram. When i first got this DDR2 1000 from Crucial i tried to run it at DDR2 1000 but the 667 divider freaked out on me and it wouldnt boot. I moved it to the DDR2 800 divider and it soared up to 1000 no problem. If you are using it, try a different divider.

In the CPU feature, what's the optimum settings when overclocking?

Last week i recieved the bios (15 beta 03) from an eu Abit support engineer. I tried it, it doesnt solve my problems but after an overclock the system only needs a power off to boot again at the old bios settings. My problem is that i cant run OCZ Ti Alpha PC8000 @ 1:1 @ 1000 mhz. The abit 975x doenst want that.
Running 1:1 DDR800 @ 3-3-3-8 is also a problem. I have to run @:

Abit AW9D-Max @ 1.75 vMCH @ 400 fsb @ 1:1 @ 1066 strap
Coolermaster Blue Ice pro nb cooler
E6600 @ 3.6 ghz @ 1.4375 vCore (L631a967)
OCZ Ti Alpha PC8000 @ DDR800 @ 1:1 @ 4-3-3-3-16 @ 2.4v
eVGA 8800 GTX with modded AC3 bios @ 640/1500/2100
Thermaltake Armor
OCZ GameXtreem 600w

Also i have to use dimm1 and 3 instead of 0 and 2, otherwise the system will not boot. The system is rock solid @ these settings so i cant really complain. To bad this board has a fsb wall @ 438 without the volt mods.

If you want the bios Mail me: nmsystems@chello.nl

1.9 MCH here since Des. Stable as a rock;)

I&#180;ve written to them in order to enable the "CPU.VTT" option. Would be very
good to set this option up to 1.3 or better;)

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Originally Posted by ghosty1234

I´ve written to them in order to enable the "CPU.VTT" option. Would be very
good to set this option up to 1.3 or better;)

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I also did two times. But the Abit Engineer stated this was not possible on the Aw9D-Max due to pcb limitations. After sending me the latest bios file he finally gave in and promised me he would talk to Abit FAE to make it happen. The theoretical max is 1.4v, but my mobo cant go over 1.23v without hardware mods (wich i dont like, voids warranty). With 1.4v you can run 3-3-3-8 @ 800/ 4-4-4-12 @ 1000 1:1

I think with the CPU VTT option in the bios this mobo is going to be up with the p5b's and quad gt's

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Originally Posted by nordien

I also did two times. But the Abit Engineer stated this was not possible on the Aw9D-Max due to pcb limitations. After sending me the latest bios file he finally gave in and promised me he would talk to Abit FAE to make it happen. The theoretical max is 1.4v, but my mobo cant go over 1.23v without hardware mods (wich i dont like, voids warranty). With 1.4v you can run 3-3-3-8 @ 800/ 4-4-4-12 @ 1000 1:1

I think with the CPU VTT option in the bios this mobo is going to be up with the p5b's and quad gt's

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i did this mod and played around with vtt a little. on my aw9d-max this did not improve overclock at all. well, as i said, just played a little with it.

the memory timings you are talking about depend mainly on the memory module itself and on the voltage used on this modules. don't think vtt will have that much influence here. it might have some minor side effects as this is the termination voltage on the fsb (the bus between cpu and memory controller) and logic levels on this bus are relative to vtt.

If you want it:

nmsystems@chello.nl

RAM slot 3 is working in dual-channel mode now

bios 15 can be downloaded from abit's ftp site in tw:

ftp://ftp.abit.com.tw/pub/download/bios/aw9d/

BIOS release V.15 for AW9D, AW9D-MAX

Release information:

1. EIST and C1E Enable/ Disable function now work as intended.
2. Fixed an issue where the system sometimes hangs on POST code 2A.
3. Fixed an issue where the system may not boot when installing memory on DIMM3.
4. Enhanced overclocking ability with certain CPUs.
5. Fixed the issue that the system hangs during Vista installation, when using a Kentsfield CPU.
6. Enhanced compatibility with certain memories.
7. Support E6850 and E6750.
8. Support 1333 Strap.
9. Support DDR2-400
10. BIOS compiled date: 04/18/2007

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Originally Posted by fgw

bios 15 can be downloaded from abit's ftp site in tw:

ftp://ftp.abit.com.tw/pub/download/bios/aw9d/

BIOS release V.15 for AW9D, AW9D-MAX

Release information:

1. EIST and C1E Enable/ Disable function now work as intended.
2. Fixed an issue where the system sometimes hangs on POST code 2A.
3. Fixed an issue where the system may not boot when installing memory on DIMM3.
4. Enhanced overclocking ability with certain CPUs.
5. Fixed the issue that the system hangs during Vista installation, when using a Kentsfield CPU.
6. Enhanced compatibility with certain memories.
7. Support E6850 and E6750.
8. Support 1333 Strap.
9. Support DDR2-400
10. BIOS compiled date: 04/18/2007

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Nice :fact:

Hope the "Enhanced overclocking ability with certain CPUs" means Kentsfield:clap:

has anyone tried the new bios with a kentsfield yet?

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has anyone tried the new bios with a kentsfield yet?

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Thats what i'd like to know. I'm thinking of going q6600 but want to know if it will go anywhere on this board.

With a BETA bios I'm playing now, I took ALL four cores of the QUAD at ~5100MHz 3D Benchable.... Unfortunately don't expect to achieve high fsb with this mobo, BUT it can bench QUADs HIGHER that many others.... ;)
The worst frequency I have achieved with this QUAD, was 5010MHz as for the 3DMark2006..... At ALL other 3D benches, it can do around 5100MHz with a peak 5200MHz..... ALL cores x 17 multi .... ;)
So higher fsb I could play under LN2 or on air was about 300 - 320MHz.... The "advantage" of this mobo with the QUADS is that you can play your rams at 2:3 with tight timmings 3 - 3 - 3 - 4 - etc. and you gain a lot by doing this....
It works PERFECT ALL 4 cores of a quad at any multi and "balance" them despite what some other mobos do out there.... ;)
ALSO it might be the only mobo that can handle the load of one "heavy overclocked" QUAD at over 350Watts..... ;)
I don't really know if this new final bios works for QUAD though....
Off course I'm waiting for those new ATI VGAs to show up, coz as for me, THIS will be the mobo that will be a winner with a CF combination.... ;)

just flashed to the 15 bios with no problems. New options are there for 800 strap etc otherwise i dont see a whole lot changed. Glad to see this board is still getting some well deserved attention as it is a great all around board.

OFF topic but it's all iahve to say

That BIOS looks so freaking sexy

Anyone tested to see if all 4 Dimm slots work again with this 15 BIOS?

The last two BIOS's borke the Blue Dimm slots on my board. Wont POST at all with mem in the blue slots. Have to flash back to BIOS 12 to get the blue slots back. If all 4 slots are working again might pull the Max8 out of the closet and put it back in service.

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Originally Posted by Blue078

Anyone tested to see if all 4 Dimm slots work again with this 15 BIOS?

The last two BIOS's borke the Blue Dimm slots on my board. Wont POST at all with mem in the blue slots. Have to flash back to BIOS 12 to get the blue slots back. If all 4 slots are working again might pull the Max8 out of the closet and put it back in service.

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from what i heard from other users on the abit forum it has been fixed in bios 15.04

Yea thats what they say :) Those guys don't seem to mention the stuff thats broken in each new beta BIOS. At any rate the board out on the table, I'm hooked in to giving Abit one more try tomorrow :)

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Originally Posted by fgw

bios 15 can be downloaded from abit's ftp site in tw:

ftp://ftp.abit.com.tw/pub/download/bios/aw9d/

BIOS release V.15 for AW9D, AW9D-MAX

Release information:

1. EIST and C1E Enable/ Disable function now work as intended.
2. Fixed an issue where the system sometimes hangs on POST code 2A.
3. Fixed an issue where the system may not boot when installing memory on DIMM3.
4. Enhanced overclocking ability with certain CPUs.
5. Fixed the issue that the system hangs during Vista installation, when using a Kentsfield CPU.
6. Enhanced compatibility with certain memories.
7. Support E6850 and E6750.
8. Support 1333 Strap.
9. Support DDR2-400
10. BIOS compiled date: 04/18/2007

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Has anyone tried this bios yet? Have the problems been fixed?I know some have moved on to other boards.Sticking a kentsfield in this would be a nice build for air cooling and crossfire.

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Has anyone tried this bios yet? Have the problems been fixed?I know some have moved on to other boards.Sticking a kentsfield in this would be a nice build for air cooling and crossfire.

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I've got a q6600 coming in today or tomorrow. I will slap it in my trusty AW9D-MAX and also will flash to this bios and see what happens. I'm not expecting any crazy FSB though. The low 300's would be nice but im not holding my breath.

I have had this board since last sep. Its been through numerous cases, multiple watercooling setups, phase change and now I'm back on tuniq air. Its a trooper! :up:

Of all the core 2 duo boards I've owned, this is still my favorite. I really wish it was able to pass an orthos run above 400FSB for me. Maybe I'll dust it off, flash this bios & try again.

I cant be bothered to read through 51 pages of replies to this thread. I had this board for 2 weeks. Repetitive reboot problem after replacing all components. Turns out q6600 is not supported.

I rang abit and confirmed this. Check thier cpu cupport list too.

Shameful.

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I cant be bothered to read through 51 pages of replies to this thread. I had this board for 2 weeks. Repetitive reboot problem after replacing all components. Turns out q6600 is not supported.

I rang abit and confirmed this. Check thier cpu cupport list too.

Shameful.

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There support list says bios 15 does, what bios are you using ?

Mine is rock stable at 8x400 with my E6420 at stock vcore, 1.75 Vmch and 2x1GB Ballistix 5300 @ 5:4, 4-4-4-12 (left RAM slack to test the CPU/NB) however even 1 or 2 MHz over the 400 FSB and it fails Orthos/OCCT in mins or seconds.

This is with 13 beta and 15 offical BIOS, using 1333 strap. I v-modded for Vmch drop and watercooled the NB but no improvement at all. There is a wall somewhere on this board, but I still love it :D

I am happy with mine. I haad thought about one of the P35 boards, but it seems that this one will hang close to them.

I am wondering whether a BIOS change will help me get the FSB higher, since my CPU is still at stock vcore at 3.2 GHz and I reckon it would be nice to get more.

In people's experiences what is the best BIOS for consistently hitting the highest FSBs?

I got one of these boards and put a qx6700 in it.It will post the video card bios,then when it should start the post it just restarts.Should it at least post even if it's got a older bios?I just want to try and rule out bad chip or to low of power supply(ocz700,generic pci video card).

maybe power supply, if you have another chip try that and see if it will boot and update bios.

I'm hearing that at the default Vfsb on this board (~1.2V) only the 2 meg cache C2Ds are really going well above 400 FSB and the mod is required for E6600, E6420 etc.

Can anyone verify this from experience?

I flashed to bios 15 final, and now my scsi card refuses to find my drives...

Back to 13.b01 i guess :(

cant seem to get anything above 399 anything over windows will not boot anymore. Bios problem? I went above this before with some of the older bios. This is even with vtt mod. Was able to boot at 420fsb on my ds3. This is with E6600 that can do 4g on phase pretty easily.

Feed the maximum VMCH you have so to go higher....Apparently if you haven't done the VMCH "boost mod", giving 2Volts in bios, it's about 1.83 - 1.87V real....so it's OK.... ;)

I also want to add that EVEN with 1.2VFSB, MOST (if not all) of the CPUs could do over 400MHz for sure......Just pop up more VMCH .....and a fan over Northbridge will be helpfull.... ;)

does raising the pci-e frequency also help fsb overclocking?...

i'm trying to break 10 seconds this weekend for my first time on this mobo...will have x6800 on ln2.
ram is gmh and gkx and psu aopen 700watt.
right now i have a sata drive which i'll swop to ide if necessary.
i have a vcore mod for the cpu when its cold enough.
hipro's booster mod also done.
and i have a nice copper 1U sink on the NB with a 60x60x10mm fan at 3000rpm.

now my problem is i'd like more fsb.
so far with max vMCH (2.0) i can still not reach 433fsb.
and this is with promos ram at 5-5-5 and running 1:1
ram is tested good up to 533mhs 1:1 on dfi dark 965.

would switching to an ide drive open more fsb?...or the vmch mod?

any help and ideas for a good 1M run would be appreciated...but i'm not going to copywasa or any of those wird things.
just the best windows tweaks if there are any that really work.
otherwise i'll just run a fresh os and it will be xp-pro i think

thanks for any and all help

Boot from bios Flytek or used guru clocking on windows ?

For me max boot from bios and stable is 420-425MHz, but in windows used guru I can reach 450MHz easy :)


Martin

thanks for the response.
i have tried both...the latest uguru 3.104 i think...and i have tried from bios.
when booting too high it likes to hang at the end of the xp loading bars.
when using uguru the test bar freezes after a little while.
also i have tried gkx ic ram now too and no further.
next up is ide hdd and or earlier uguru and earlier bios.
(current bios 04/18/2007)

edt:...ok found it....seems like the cpu multiplier wasn't taking properly so i was running default multi instead of dropped multi...therefor the limit was in fact the cpu core speed limit...*whew*
anyway seen 455 so far and it seems to get worse with more vNB indicating a lack of cooling for the NB.
oh well i guess this must be that perfect time to test my chipset block/tube :D

is this motherboard particularly picky about IDE cables? I'm just curious becuase I just purchased this motherboard, and it gave me post code 25 hang with just about every little thing... first motherboard i've had that complained as much as this one. is it just my board?

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thanks for the response.
i have tried both...the latest uguru 3.104 i think...and i have tried from bios.
when booting too high it likes to hang at the end of the xp loading bars.
when using uguru the test bar freezes after a little while.
also i have tried gkx ic ram now too and no further.
next up is ide hdd and or earlier uguru and earlier bios.
(current bios 04/18/2007)

edt:...ok found it....seems like the cpu multiplier wasn't taking properly so i was running default multi instead of dropped multi...therefor the limit was in fact the cpu core speed limit...*whew*
anyway seen 455 so far and it seems to get worse with more vNB indicating a lack of cooling for the NB.
oh well i guess this must be that perfect time to test my chipset block/tube :D

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What bios are you using? it seems bios 15 has stopped me from going above 400fsb. But i am too lazy to flash old bios.

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Feed the maximum VMCH you have so to go higher....Apparently if you haven't done the VMCH "boost mod", giving 2Volts in bios, it's about 1.83 - 1.87V real....so it's OK.... ;)

I also want to add that EVEN with 1.2VFSB, MOST (if not all) of the CPUs could do over 400MHz for sure......Just pop up more VMCH .....and a fan over Northbridge will be helpfull.... ;)

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yea i did boost mod and vtt is about 1.43 1.44? but cannot get past 400fsb i believe it is bios 15 before i could go to 433 without any mods.

my issue after flashing was due to me not fully clearing the bios after the flash.
the result seems to be that some of the uguru stuff wouldn't work any longer...this included the multiplier appearing to work but not doing so in reality.
the other artifact i noticed was that a failed uguru overclock would somehow be the next boot up clock...

if a good bios clear doesn't help then maybe a reflash will
also some other setting may have been changed like your default ram timings or something.

i havn't read this whole thread but post code 25 is probably something to do with periferals like keyboard, hdd or gpu

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i havn't read this whole thread but post code 25 is probably something to do with periferals like keyboard, hdd or gpu

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from what I've experienced, post code 25 pretty much is about anything.. voltage, IDE cable configs, etc...

Hmmm... I got rid of my scsi stuff that this board refuses to detect, and now its back to refusing to detect any IDE devices :rolleyes:

I can only use the beta 13 bioses, anything later gives me these problem... But ill keep going, this board is worth it when everything decides to work

edit: bios 13.A11 works perfect for me :D

aNYONE Know what error code 09 means on this board?

Whats the max fsb you guys are getting with a Q6600 on this board?

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Whats the max fsb you guys are getting with a Q6600 on this board?

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I'd like to know this also :)

Any updates on q6600 and this board??

A little searching should reveal the 300-350 fsb limit these boards have with quads

Hi All,

Q6600 B3.
Cherry AW9D-MAX.
My max stable FSB = 315MHz, (on multipliers 7/8/9).

I'll mod the board over the weekend and post back with results.

Anyone tried an E6850 on this board??:D

Hey guys,
just put a q6600 in this mobo & i'm hitting a wall @ 320fsb. Cant get it to post no matter what i do. Tried everything, upping vcore, nb, disabling c1e & eist. Nothing seems 2 work.

Just wondering what fsb others have gotten a q6600 to.

Sorry for resurrecting this old thread, but I'm experiencing a strange problem ATM. I'm in the process of testing my AW9D Non-Max and whenever applying overclocked settings and trying to boot Memtest from an IDE CD or DVD drive, the drive disappears after saving the bios settings and rebooting. It's not that the settings would be absolutely unstable. After disconnecting the system from the wall-outlet for a second I can boot the system and the drive is back without a problem and the system runs stable. Very strange! Already contacted the support but they can't seem to reproduce my problem so far.

Did any of you ever experience this or a similar problem?

I'm using the latest Bios 15 and already tried different CPUs (E6550, Xeon 3040 and 3050), RAMs (some Micron based modules), different drives (Toshiba SD-M2012 and Benq DW1640) and a PCI video card (ATi Rage3d 4MB) ATM. Didn't try a PCI-E video card yet, though.

Update: The PCI video card problem was caused simply due to bad contact of the card. It wiggled around in the slot in the open test environment and lost contact continously when leaning sidewards.
BUT, the disappearing IDE-drive problem seems to be a problem with BIOS 15 and Memtest 1.70, as I'm not the only one experiencing this. Found someone in the Abit USA forums who had the exact same problem.

Needed new beta or mod bios because bios 15 Q6600 GO max fsb 134 and memory 268MHz :(

Just a little update, im back to using this board with my E7200. It works perfectly with bios 17.

Now im back to trying to figure out a good overclock. Approaching 400fsb this board is very flaky with ram, but i know that the hard limit is 430 fsb.

Since it doesnt support half multipliers, im waiting eagerly for the E7300 to come out (10x400 = 4 ghz :D )

Just to let anyone, who still uses this IMHO great board, know:
There is a Alpha or Beta status BIOS number 18. The file is called either aw9d_18.zip or AW9D_18.rar. Seems to be one of the last things that some Abit employees worked on. The BIOS seems to be dated around March 2009 and it looks like the major differencee is the included number of Microcodes. It's a full 187k uncompressed Microcodes in that BIOS. That should cover any available Socket775 CPU.
Me and some other people already flashed the BIOS and it seems to be stable, without any problems. Although no long-term experience here, yet.

So, maybe, with some hardware-mods it now should be possible to even run Yorkfield CPUs on the old AW9D.

celemine1Gig :up: WoW that would be too cool.

I still use my AW9 daily. Games, Win7.
It's seen 3 new vid cards, and I keep finding ways to get more and more memory working. I've been sorta itching for 9550.This E6600 ES is past retirement age. Just dont have the $denero now daysto spring for new system 4 times a year any more :)

ATM, I run a Xeon X3220 G0 Kentsfield on my modded AW9D. I had to up the GTLREF voltage from the standard 0.63*VTT to 0.7*VTT (a little less would perhaps have been enough, but I wanted to be sure) to stabilize the system. Now it runs perfectly stable at stock (2.4GHz). Had no time to overclock yet, though. But the idea of getting a quadcore to run stable on that old board is probably enough. The performance boost sometimes is really huge, depending on the application. And I still have 8GB of Micron low latency DDR2 RAM. Only 4GB of it installed. Again no time to test for stability with more, ATM. I thought about getting a newer board (X38 or X48 based) quite often in the last few weeks, but always discarded the idea after a few hours. It just is not worth it, especially considering the time and money I already spent on modding my AW9D. AND: It runs stable. So why replace it? If there comes the day when it stopps working, or when it's computing power will not be enough anymore, then I'll happily get something new. But until then, I think I'll just keep my AW9D.