Lestat ... you should not make judgements so quickly. The new CoolerMaster eclipse is pretty good even against high-end watercooling ... air is definitely reaching a point where it can go on par with internal watercooling.
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Lestat ... you should not make judgements so quickly. The new CoolerMaster eclipse is pretty good even against high-end watercooling ... air is definitely reaching a point where it can go on par with internal watercooling.
no its really not scythe... but anyway eagerly awaiting the next bios since I'm sort of stuck with my RAM at poor speeds atm :S
No key or mouse press will turn this thing on. I've tried enabling both keyboard and mouse usb support to no avail. It doesn't work for me. Does anyone use this feature succesfully on DS3?
Also, a buddy of mine's got no crackling w/ an X-Fi Fatal and BF2142. I've got the Xtrememusic. If it's XRAM, I'm gonna feel like a tard. :D
Crackling and popping has nothing to do with motherboard, its a bios settings on PCI latency issue that has plagued Creative cards for a long time. Its mostly prevalent on Nforce mobos, but more recently any chipset. I had it on my other motherboard, i fixed it completely just by changing PCI latency.
Are you an idiot? =) There's no way air can beat watercooling... Your "on par" is 15-20ºC away? :slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by ScythedBlade
Yeah I still have that tool, I'll give it a shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by markopoleo
some of the new air coolers are great but one by coolermaster, hahah thats hilarious. coolermaster has never made a good hsf. ever...
the Scythe infinity is one of the few killer hsf's. and i mean when you actually mount a fan on it, not just using passive.
you wanna run 1.67v on air be my guest but your temps are astronimical. end of story,, you can claim all you want this and that but i know for a fact that at 1.67v on air or water, its suicide.
christ, @ 1.57v my cpu gets so hot i wont do it. only quick runs into windows.
you can not get around the truth, and that is 1.67v #1 will kill your cpu. #2 produces so much wattage on these cpu's that heat is insane. i n s a n e.
i guarentee that your load temps were into the 80's and 90's
only way it wasnt was if you have the mobo outside of the case in a VERY cool room, or by a window and its cold outside.
That's why I keep mine @ stock. It'll hit 3600 with a .1V increase, but load temps go 60C-65C instead of 50C for 3300.
http://www.virtual-hideout.net/revie...se/index.shtmlQuote:
Originally Posted by ScythedBlade
Well it certainly looks cool. :fact:
Yea ... still decent enough ... (which is better though I forgot ... scythe mine or infinity?)
Here is the tool Lestat keeps talking about and not giving a link to http://www13.plala.or.jp/setfsb/Quote:
Originally Posted by msgclb
Lestat, you were killing me! ;)
i figured everyone knew about that program
sorry.
i was going to post a link for it but i totally spaced it off.
its the one at the bottom of the list. its for the ga965
should work on DS4 and DQ6 it works fine for the DS3
just be sure your voltages are set high enough to handle the new overclock you will be setting with this program.
Infinity. I have the Mine and I'm probably going to try a Tuniq Tower when they're back in stock. The Mine is a cheap, quiet solution but it's not that great of a cooler.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScythedBlade
I'am still on Bios F3 , but is there already a bios witch you can give the cpu 1.65V ?
hey guys , im just going to add some comments about the cooling on air , I have the Tuniq tower and that thing works great my temps go from 37 up till 44 @ 1.56 full load running at 3.3 (E6600) , I ve try 1.6 but my setup wont go more tahn 3.4 and still keep 44-45 on full load, sooo when Gigabyte "release "the new bios that is suppost to have more Volts option for cpu im going to try more than 1.6 to see where i can go , see u al
And btw where can i download SetFSB965 please , need a link
Wow you lazy man :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ajfina
Look 4 posts over yours and you'll discover this secret;)
damn IM TOTALLY BLIND , THANKS DUDE :)Quote:
Originally Posted by DStealth
And it would fit on my board...I wonder how it would do against some of the better coolers tho...Quote:
Originally Posted by Phosphate
And "for GA-965P Ultra Version 1.5a2" will work for the DS3 too?
Yeah I have no idea. I just think it "looks" cooler than most and by that I am refering to its unusual appearance more than anything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jodiuh
Swap in a nice 120mm fan and that Mine becomes a great cooler.Quote:
Originally Posted by aldamon
I already have and it's still far from being a great cooler. It doesn't have enough surface area to compete with the big boys.Quote:
Originally Posted by rob725
Obviously, "great" and far from it are subjective terms and I would agree that it does not rank up there with the best coolers (I'd like to get my hands on a tuniq tower myself), but it is doing a great job for my buddy, who wanted to save some money, and he runs both cores 100% 24/7 at 3.6ghz, with load temps around 50, crunching for the xs wcg team.
So no bios updates then?
its coming rich its coming.
today?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
New official X-Fi drivers:
http://ccftp.creative.com/manualdn/D..._2_09_0007.exe
I should use for GA-965P Ultra Version 1.5a2, I'm right?
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Originally Posted by HamidFULL
yes,,,
F7a, runs pretty Good and seems to solve a bit the vdimm issue.. (I could run super pi at 2.55v) but some times the board didnt posted :(
Also i noticed a small down in FSB overclocking.. it was quite difficult to get 500Mhz but its ok :D
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Originally Posted by Richard Dower
For Win XP only you should note. Lots running Vista now :D
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Originally Posted by markopoleo
im sorry what ? no lots are NOT running vista.. i dont know what country your in but not very people are running Vista
Lestat, just because you don't doesn't mean that no one is, something like 1,000,000 Downloaded and installed RC1 from MS and many MANY more dled RC2 and (like me) the Pre-RTM build. Thats like saying just cause you don't eat pie that noone does.
Oooh! New X-Fi for the OS that doesn't suck the life out of my rig!! Yes, I've played with Vista too. It's pretty, but meh...
I think everyone I know now is running a Vista OS. lol Not a single problem with it at RC2. No reason to go back to winxp :P
Which variant are you using? Which variant was you planning to upgrade to?Quote:
Originally Posted by markopoleo
Did you say Ultimate? Guess again. According to DailyTech there is no upgrade to Windows Vista Ultimate. According to the article it's a entirely new high end product.
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4740
Have you been keeping up on the buzz some enthusiasts are having with the EULA. There's a one-time-only transfer provision in the EULA that definately needs clarification before I upgrade.
I have installed RC1 on this computer system and didn't see any problems. I didn't install any of my software so who knows what would happen if I did.
Yup I don't use Vista and am not planning to do so within a short time, performance is not better and sucks more mem (I have 1GB which should be sufficient for every OS at this time of technology man! And it is to expensive to buy RAM A.T.M.:fact: ).
Now back on topic:
I would very much like to see the new BIOS, hopefully with the D9 fix for all of you guys and with the fan fix for at least me:p: .
I've been using Vista now for arounda month if not more and I won't be going back to XP anytime soon... performance is up, memory allocation is amazing. In terms of nearly everything (except games) Vista smokes XP, I have even been playing games albeit at a reduced FPS (BF2142) but this is expected until I get some new drivers :)Quote:
Originally Posted by TheForce81
There are lots of reason to go back to winxp32bit. So far no crash of win vista rc2 on me but... we can only install limited softwares, games & the suck part is the digitally signed software, although you can disable it everytime you boot win vista. Still that's so troublesome for lazy ppl like me! :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by markopoleo
people are playing around with Vista.
Vista is still a crippling OS. there is still alot of performance that needs to be tweaked with the os
and still tons of programs to be made vista capable.
not only that it would be retarded to use an OS for 24/7 use when its just going to expire.
i have no intensions of using it for 24/7 for a very long time! i been on the beta team since prior to its release and been following it since and although they have made improvements. they are still making it the most overbloated, bulky and resource hungry os ever created.
Wow so much misinformation you guys posted, for people who like to overclock hardware, you are oblivious to the software you run on it! I only found one program that won't run on vista but not a big deal, every piece of hardware works I have and every software that i need does to. :)
Msgclb,
You are taking that way out of context, Vista EULA is exactly like winxp. You can upgrade to your hearts content, like before worst case you have to call MS to activate. This kind of bad info is from every tech site copy and pasting news a dumb blogger posts..yet no one looks at the horses mouth that said it is not any different than XP EULA. The Ultimate upgrade is also not a big deal, you can buy OEM versions of ultimate for about $200 with a hardware purchase.
Laziepig,
Not sure what software you are talking about, but I've only had one program not install on rc2, Digital signed software is only on 64bit version, it is disabled on 32bit..so not sure what problem is..
Lestat,
Windows RC2 atm is just as stable/reliable as winxpsp2 is currently. Its not bloated or resource hungry, uses little more ram than winxp does, but its more responsive than winxp is.
No point testing a vista 32bit =)
Bump for back to the topic... NEW BIOS ETA?:stick:
Naa gigabyte said "Hahahah we have your money! Now we don't need to make anymore bioses..MuwHAHAHAHAHAHAHA" err wait thats just how it feels hehhe
Must be using older hardware and not much of a gamer, eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by markopoleo
Still no SLI support, still bloated big, fat pig. But whatever.
I haven't lost my X-Fi in several days, appears F7a fixes the issue. I got another GB tech support email.
Basically they fogged me off and blamed Evercool saying the fan is not Intel certified, LOL...yet the fan was controlled by bios upto version F4 bios, and all of a sudden with F5/F6 it has somehow changed spec and is no longer Intel happy?
Please, it's just another BS statement...they've removed SYS_FAN control in bios and thats it, never to be seen again.
I won't touch Vista until prices drop and better driver support, and it's gonna be buggy as HELL!!
Wait and see, within the first three months there'll be like 60 patches.
Why don't you just buy a fan controller and be done with it? The DS3 doesn't power any of my fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
I can't pull 360x9 out of my machine, yet I see Richard Dower has got 8 with a very close setup. Any tips on bios tweaks etc?
Every time I try to OC I have to clear the CMOS if it :banana::banana::banana::banana:s up, and taking out the graphics card is hell when it's all tidy on the inside.
Maybe it's worth noting I'm using a Razer mouse at 500hz USB?
Do you guys ever do anything with your:
PCI-E Overvoltage Control
or
FSB Overvoltage control?
Also, what do you keep your PCI-E set to for max overclock? Auto? 103?
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Originally Posted by dnottis
Bf2 plays fine, UT series plays fine, Age of empires 3 plays fine, Eve online plays fine, Oblivion plays fine, what was that again? :p:
BF2142 plays fine :)
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Originally Posted by davidos
usually those two dont do anything but i always max them out anyways.
the pci-e overvolt i would assume only comes into play for two reasons.
1) power hungry video cards
2) overclocking the pci-e freq.
but always lock your PCI-E at atleast 100mhz and up to 115mhz is usually just fine although i rarely go over 110mhz.
if you dont lock it, i believe gigabyte has it locked anyways at auto but @ auto it can float around causing hard drive corruption on the sata ports and other issues. so always lock it at 100mhz or higher.
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Originally Posted by Dominus
try using a good ol PS2 mouse and keyboard,, just for testing and see what you can do.
but make darn sure you have enough voltages for vdimm, vcore, and (g)mch when in doubt always give it a little extra.
360x9 is horrible.
i know its tough to search this thread its getting to be a huge thread but we discussed this issue long ago so i'll bring it up again.
at around 350-ish some boards showed themselves to be buggy. and not just gigabyte. alot of the boards out there did it.
its just a FSB "wall" they hit and you have to go past that wall to clock higher. its a point where the NB chipsete changes the strap its using. changing from 1066 to 1333.
take the FSB and kick it all the way up to 400.
IF you ram can handle 800mhz then give it atleast 2.1v 5-5-5-15 just so the ram is loose enough.
Give the vcore a full 1.45v again this maybe more than you need but thats ok its not going to hurt the cpu.
leave the mch fsb and pci-e on Auto.
lock the pci-e at 100mhz.
once you do this it SHOULD boot right up... if not raise the vdimm 1 more notch and raise the vcore to 1.5v
no chip is guarenteed nor is a mobo but depending on the week and stepping of your cpu you should be able to hit 3.6ghz VERY easily with well under 1.5v.
my cpu as an example is still hard to beat if not yet beat at all, but maybe by another cpu of the same week and ES stepping.
3.6ghz @ 1.32v 3.8ghz @ 1.425 and 4g at 1.55 in the bios but droop makes it 1.48v...
after the droop on 3.6ghz its actually 1.28v on 3.8ghz its actually i think like 1.375v
so each chip is different you just have to play around with the voltages until you find the working sweet spot for your hardware.
and YES i have seen those Razor mice cause issues.. thats why i mention using a regular PS2 mouse and KB.
Thanks a lot, I'll have to give that a try tomorrow. Pitty that there's so many incompatabilities and oddities with this board.
Thanks for your time though!
wheres the new bios? im really getting feed up with these issues.
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Originally Posted by markopoleo
if you want a battle of Vista vs XP go to the OS section.
stick to the subject at hand people.
no incompatabilities,,, just quirks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dominus
they are working on them. but hardware changes every week.
we are constantly seeing new hardwares being thrown out in the market and a smaller company like gigabyte can't test everything.
heck it wasnt until like 3 or 4 weeks ago that they FINALLY got a X-Fi to test.
and 2 or 3 weeks ago they got OCZ and GSkill ram to test.
What is the point of overclocking the PCI-E frequency?...you won't see any performamce increase and most likely could cause some issues.
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Originally Posted by Richard Dower
thats where your absolutely wrong.
overclocking the PCI-E allows big increases in video card overclocking.
it also allows you to overclock the cpu higher.
set the pci-e to 110 then if you have the nvidia card install coolbits and do the auto overclock and you will see higher overclocks.
same for cpu.. it will usually let you overclock higher.
Ok, someone needs to show me evidence of this claim, i need screenies and benchmarks.
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Originally Posted by Richard Dower
its not a claim rich its a plain and simple fact. where you been ?
With me in wtfville.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
So any evidence this F8a BIOS for DS3 is allowing higher frequencies for the Micron D9 based DIMMs?
How hard can it be read up this thread a bit:banana: , come on man this is just plain lazyness. The story is all around the last few pages.....:fact:Quote:
Originally Posted by Phosphate
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phosphate
no the D9 fix is not in place yet. its coming though
my new ds4-rev.c2 using d9gkx 2.2vdimm
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7...0memfp7.th.jpg
Whats your bios vcore?Quote:
Originally Posted by raydelee
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
fyi gigabyte is not a small company..its one of the top motherboard manufacturers, at least it was last year. ;)
Should be late next week for the final release. The first beta hit 510FSB with Corsair 6400C3 at 4-4-3-10 at 1:1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
Quote:
Originally Posted by raydelee
ray is that the max you can do ? crank that stuff man lets see how far they will go.
and notice guys that he is using a C2 mobo. not the C1 like 99% of us are.
guys Vista will need 4GB of memroy for best run look here for find more about gameing and 2GB vs. 4GB memory in Vista:
http://www.bcchardware.com/index.php...1&limitstart=3
its 100% true, I'll wait for Vista Ultimate SP1 + price dropQuote:
Richard Dower
won't touch Vista until prices drop and better driver support, and it's gonna be buggy as HELL!!
Wait and see, within the first three months there'll be like 60 patches
me likey... would love to be a beta tester ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
1.55 bios vcoreQuote:
Originally Posted by FirePhoenixCtk
sigh, of course if you add more memory you get better scores. Same with winxp! Besides its not "better" from the very article you linked to the newest games only showed a %14 increase. 4gig of memory today cause you a fortune, It is still more dependent on video card/CPU than ram!Quote:
Originally Posted by HamidFULL
So many factors play into games than just amount of memory its not even worth that guy to review it. Esp since he only used a ATi X1900GT 256MB card which is a medium range card when vista is out.
You are going to do whatever you think but don't buy into "reviews" like these. :)
new batch here in Malyasia all are P965rev.c2:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
Quote:
Originally Posted by raydelee
ouch are you serious? 1.55v damn thats one of the bad clockers like a week 23 or 24 isnt it ? or earlier.
yup week23Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
still can go higher clocks but room temp here in malaysia is too hot
around 33c :(
Mine must be horrible too cause i have to be on 1.56v to b able to hit 3.3 (e6600) i dont know what week is but no way i can pass 3.4 ,using F8a
not sure but dont see that much or none dif from F6 that i was using i meant other than voltage options and stuff
I think my MB is one of the boggus DS3 ,
the DS3 can be flakey over 1.56v
and the mobo isnt going to help you lower the voltages much,
meaning if one board you have use 1.56v, then maybe is you switch to let's say the P5B Dlx your probably going to have to use 1.56v also but possible a litlte lower like 1.53 or 1.54v cuz its a more stable board.
but in general if you have to use that much voltage your screwed all around. its a bad clocker.
only way to change that would be to sell it and buy a brand new one or a proven one from the forums.
Tanx guys, New Updated List :
1.Fix the Micron D9 memory issue in S3/DS3/DS4/DQ6 boards
2.Update the Jmicron BIOS in the S3/DS3/DS4/DQ6 boards
3.When set Vcore lower than 1.2250v in DS4 Vcore jump to 1.57v after reboot
4.Update the Intel RAID bios ROM to version 6.1.0.1002 in S3/DS3/DS4/DQ6 boards
5.When set Vcore in any option except normal C1E dosent work and EIST cant drop Vcore while idle in S3/DS3/DS4/DQ6 boards
6.More/better Vcore selections between 1.600v and 1.800v (now it go's from 1.600v directly to 1.800v, huge jump!) in S3/DS3/DS4/DQ6
7.Ram voltage being displayed as failed over +0.325v in S3/DS3/DS4/DQ6 boards
8.Intel QST dosen work properly in S3/DS3/DS4/DQ6 boards
9.PWR_FAN isn't adjustable in any way (not through BIOS, not with speedfan, not with EZtune) in S3/DS3/DS4/DQ6 boards
10.Intel AHCI bios needs to be updated from 4 Aug 2006 to the newer 13 September 2006 in S3/DS3/DS4/DQ6 boards
11.Speed up the boot time in S3/DS3/DS4/DQ6 boards
12.After enabling QST, MCH temp doesnt show right in S3/DS3/DS4/DQ6 boards
13.Improve 7950GX2 support (where you boot up and before you even get into windows you get a screen with lines and colors) in S3/DS3/DS4/DQ6 boards
14.After flash to F7/F8 beta when system get restart it cant boot and should do turn off and again turn on to boot in S3/DS3/DS4/DQ6 boards
15.BigTyphoon 120mm Fan dosent start while boot in S3/DS3/DS4/DQ6 boards
16.Creative Blaster Modems sometime cause crash whilst disconnect in Windows XP in S3/DS3/DS4/DQ6 boards
Wow! That's quite a list. Considering the Bios revs have cranked out 3-4 fixes max per...
@ the vista 4vs2 gig:
"A fresh install of Windows Vista Ultimate will hog over 1GB of system memory - just to run."
That leads me to believe they didn't bother to optimize the system. Surely there are tweaks in the OS similar to XP that can calm the OS down.
yeah 1.55 is harsh.
Yea Like Gigabyte would ever put that much work into a bios fix...
and to Jodiuh:
"A fresh install of Windows Vista Ultimate will hog over 1GB of system memory - just to run."
Running Pre-RTM build right now and only at 540mb ram used on a 2gb system and thats no tweaks, just installed and configured other apps.
Are running the "ULTIMATE" version?
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"A fresh install of Windows Vista Ultimate will hog over 1GB of system memory - just to run."
that is 100000% bullsh|t and who ever said that has no friggin clue and has never ran Vista.
500-700meg yes but a gig bullsh|t never nope sorry.
its rounded up if its more than 512 MB XD ....
Is this a list of items that need to be fixed or are being worked on in the beta bios?
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Originally Posted by HamidFULL
This is the result of overclocking. you want to overclock and do eist C1E ? get real. you dont overclock and then expect to make the system down throttle.Quote:
5.When set Vcore in any option except normal C1E dosent work and EIST cant drop Vcore while idle in S3/DS3/DS4/DQ6 boards
EIST CE1 must have control over the voltages when you manually set it, that shuts down the throttle functions.
again.. you overclock.. you lose the throttling ability. and throttling on an overclock isnt smart anyways. i dont think i need to explain why.
ok guys i've said this many times and most people overlook it so i'll throw it out there one more time.Quote:
10.Intel AHCI bios needs to be updated from 4 Aug 2006 to the newer 13 September 2006 in S3/DS3/DS4/DQ6 boards
the S3 and DS3 does not use the intel SATA controller nor the intel SATA/AHCI controller. i am not so sure that the DS4 does either.
you will know it uses it when you have to install INTEL.. let me repeat that INTEL ahci drivers. neither the S3 and DS3 do that. you have to install the JMICRON drivers. lets say that again. J M I C R O N drivers.
if you have to install the jmicron drivers on the DS4 and DQ6 then guess what your not using the intel SATA/RAID/AHCI controller either.
im sorry who's boot time is slow. my boot time is fast enough my monitor isnt even on until its about 1.5 seconds prior to XP loading.Quote:
11.Speed up the boot time in S3/DS3/DS4/DQ6 boards
slow boot is caused by enabling AHCI/RAID. you want raid/ahci.. guess what you get a slower boot. once again this is the result of enabling a controller that has to initialize and read any disks that are attached to it.
you cant fix this. period.
another major issue of slow booting is USB devices and especially usb devices hooked to a usb hub.
once againnnnn.. this is unavoidable. the usb bus has to be initialized and it has to be given time to read the devices.
this cant be fixed. but sOME usb devices take longer to initialize. and some usb hubs.. they are a HUGE pain in the arse as the bios has to see the hub.. then querry the hub for any devices,,, then see the devices then querry the device to know what it is and if it should use it as a bootable device.
again,, punishment for adding external devices that have to be added to the boot sequence.
ok wait what ? ok,, what ?? what?? ok lets start by saying that 1) i hope your not talking about overclocking. cuz we dont oc and flash the bios kids.. right ? god i hope you know this.Quote:
14.After flash to F7/F8 beta when system get restart it cant boot and should do turn off and again turn on to boot in S3/DS3/DS4/DQ6 boards
after flashing these last few bios's there ae absolutely zero boot issues. if your system powers off then on again do i really have to say why ? its resetting the strap setting and voltages and timings and adjusting to what you have set in the bios to what it thinks it should be using ...
i've never heard of this issue and i think you guys are confusing the natural state of things with a random issue 1 or 2 guys have.
please tell me you tried a different fan cuz the Big Typhoon is not the issue the issue. the issue is the way the board boots up with the fan controls. and the fan doesnt need to be on until the tmep sensor tells it to come on and if the bios is set to turn the fan on at a certain temp.. guess what.. it aint coming on until that speed.Quote:
15.BigTyphoon 120mm Fan dosent start while boot in S3/DS3/DS4/DQ6 boards
ok wait.. a creative 56k modem.. sh|t i havent seen one of those for YEARS and that was only at walmart or big time el cheapo mom and pop pc stores.Quote:
16.Creative Blaster Modems sometime cause crash whilst disconnect in Windows XP in S3/DS3/DS4/DQ6 boards
lets be real this is an old modem.
and i have no clue what you mean and neither will gigabyte.
the system will crash when you disconnect the modem ? WHAT?!
the creative modem is an internal PCI modem im sorry but wtf did you think was going to happen if you removed the modem with the pc on.
ok gentlemen lets be real here and look at this from a Manufacturers perspective.
why do that ? cuz there are only like 2 or 3 LEGITIMATE issues in that entire list.
the others are bogus 1 time 1 person issues and gigabyte is INSTANTLY going to remove it from the list.
they will also remove and forget about EVERY single issue that you dont have documented proof of. dont think so? i can guarentee you they will do that.
i see only 2 or 3 issues in that entire list that are happening to more than 1 person.
that entire list is going to get thrown away if you dont have a large number of people with the issue, and if you cant back it up.
im not trying to be a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: here but you cant submnit a list like that to a company and expect them to do anything about it if you do not list for them VERY specific information about how this happens and when , and who, what where when.
if you dont.. then they will laugh at you and throw it away.
im not saying those things are not happening, but i am saying that too many of those are a one time one or two person issue that giabyt eisnt oging to address. and to be realistic no company in the industry is going to. and no company is going to address any of them unless you provide proof of those claims.
you also need to stop addressing the issues as S3/DS3/DS4/DQ6 when they are not they are localaized ot only 1 board or 1 or 2 boards. not all the baords show the same issues.
i persoanlly find the creative modem issue extremely laughable.
you didnt explain what you mean and its 1 person correct ?
what do you mean by sometimes crash whilst disconnect ? disconnect what ? its an internal modem there isnt anything to disconnect.
and you need to list the EXACT specific make and model and revision and what drivers that person is using and what exactly they are doing when it crashes in windows.
your far to vague on nearly every issue.
i applaud the effort i truly do but i have worked for these types of companies and am in a similar position now, and unless you go into great detail, and prove it, they wont do anything about it.
for one what this is saying is after i flash the bios not OCed and i just boot up like i did today and it took 3 resets to get the computer to beep up, or if it beeps up it hangs at the windows loading screen or it gets past that and locks up right after that screen and my monitor is off, so im sorry you are in the wrong here this is a issue, so dont falsely accuse.Quote:
ok wait what ? ok,, what ?? what?? ok lets start by saying that 1) i hope your not talking about overclocking. cuz we dont oc and flash the bios kids.. right ? god i hope you know this.
after flashing these last few bios's there ae absolutely zero boot issues. if your system powers off then on again do i really have to say why ? its resetting the strap setting and voltages and timings and adjusting to what you have set in the bios to what it thinks it should be using ...
i've never heard of this issue and i think you guys are confusing the natural state of things with a random issue 1 or 2 guys have.
You're right about your problem Gooface, but I have to say that Lestat is making a good point here. And I don't really agree with most of your posts Lestat:toast: , but these are quite good points here:fact: .
If we would drop this list at Gigabyte they would probably toss in into their virtual trashcan because of its ridiculesy (if that is even a real word:p: ). If we want the list to be taken seriously we would have to put on serious (read real) stuff on it!
By disconnect the modem he could be referring to a server connection. Disconnecting from the motherboard would cause his whole world to come crashing down around his ears. Anyway this is probably a driver incompatiblity problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
I haven't had a land line for years and used a 56k modem years before that. I guess some people don't have high-speed internet in their area or just don't have the money to afford cable.
Most of those problems listed won't get fixed without a more detailed discription and the likelyhood the BIOS is the cause.
OK, dammit to betsy....bios update!!
Is anyone still mirroring the beta bioses? I started on the first page and the links there are dead/files deleted.
Is anyone gonna buy the new OCZ 850W Gamextreme?, i changed my router again!...sorry, OT --> bored!
richard update is coming... thats all i can say
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Originally Posted by msgclb
if he is meaning disconnecting from the server then this would cause a shock to the modem and thus a VERY brief surge on windows as it disconnects the modem interface and stops all running processes associated with that modem.
the next question is, and probably more important than any other question is. Who is his internet service provider? and is he using THEIR software.
if he says AOL im done. lol.
disconnecting from the service provider wouldn't, under any normal circumstances, cause any issues to happen.
if the modem is bad, if the drivers are old, if the ISP software is crap,, then this could cause any number of issues.
this in no way shape or form is caused by the motherboard UNLESS!!! its an IRQ issue.
tell the guy to check his IRQ layout. if that thing is sharing an IRQ with something tell him to pull it out of the slot its in and move it to a different slot.
They are still there m8 http://cranox.com/Gigabyte/DS3/Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMikeSS
I hope we get it before Thanksgiving. The family is coming down and I won't have any time to mess with my rig. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
Is anyone mirroring for any of the other MB models? S3 for example as that's the one I picked up and I'm curious about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cranox