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07-18-2005, 08:43 PM
jinu117

Quote:

Originally Posted by Major

Go here and download "memtest" it runs in windows and test your memory.
http://www.benchmarkhq.ru/english.html?/b_e.html

Memtest86 is not the same as running in windows, I've had memory that passed memtest86 without errors that fails right away in windows.

Also, are you using all the extra power connectors on the mb ? the molex connectors ? you might want to try that if your not already.

Make sure you don't have the 5v jumper slected by accident on the mb for your memory too, I know your not using above 3.2v but may have left it selected at 5v by accident (I know I have b4) and this will cause memory instability.

Just suggestions ;)

The site above has js trojan horse... Glad my nod32 caught it -_-; Just search windows memtest on google and you will find what he is using.
07-18-2005, 08:48 PM
Major

sorry about the link, here is the home page for memtest:

http://hcidesign.com/memtest/
07-18-2005, 09:01 PM
Major

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charloz24

Yes I use all the extra power connector on the mobo.....

And yes its not on 5v...

But thanks for trying helping me Major :toast:

what about the memory, did you test in windows ?

If I were you I would continue to look at other possibilites, I seriously doubt that the cpu is the culprit. IMO AMD is testing, testing, and retesting the X2's before shipping since its a new product QA on it will be very tight.
07-19-2005, 06:52 AM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puni Puni Poemy

Would a 4800+ Be stable @ 3GHz with Watercooling? I see that the 4400+ Has a little trouble? Or do you think it would be about the same.

Not really. One of my 4800 cores is windows stable at 2970 and the other at 2950, but it will run memtest for days at 3000.
07-19-2005, 06:54 AM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ugly n Grey

Why do you say that? Lots of guys here are getting some wicked numbers, I think my 4200 chip would hit that if I could keep the temps down, I'm trying to make a deal on a phase system as we speak just for that reason...I'm at 2.85 on the stock cooler..... but it's burning HOT....

i don't think it's the temps so much unless your freezing of course. At 3000 1.62v my 4800 was still around 39deg or so.
07-19-2005, 07:20 AM
Ugly n Grey

Quote:

Originally Posted by xgman

i don't think it's the temps so much unless your freezing of course. At 3000 1.62v my 4800 was still around 39deg or so.

I didn't say my experience was your experience, I said my OC was HOT, hitting 57c on fulll load. I am heat limited. You may not be.
Though I can't see any air cooler pulling the heat of these things 24/7 no matter who made it any more than they could cool a 200w light bulb.
07-19-2005, 10:19 AM
Major

Knock Knock !! hey my 4400+ is here ! lol

Got my 4400+ about 30 minutes ago. check out the pics !

I thought to myself, I'll go ahead and test it with the IHS on just to make sure it works ! but 2 mins later the IHS was off ! lol

I'm impressed with the heatsink that AMD includes ! pretty nice 4 heatpipe copper base.

Results later tonight! :D
07-19-2005, 10:26 AM
pentium777

Congrats Major!

My 4400+ is on the Fedex truck! Ordered yesterday from the Egg and I'm in FL (shipped from NJ location) one day it's here in Hollywood, FL does not say "On fedex truck for delivery" so maybe will be here tomorrow. Need my 7800 GTX due to not having any PCIe cards for testing.

BTW did you see that price on Newegg went from $632 free ship up to $699 + $4 ship overnight! This 4400+ must be in high demand and to think the MSRP is $581 ouch ouch ouch, that might have been the breaking point for me if it was higher price closer to FX-55 San Diego.

Please keep totally up to date on your successes, you running a DFI LP NF4?

I bet you're doing the happy dance right now :banana:

Grats :clap: Now lets hope it overclocks like a champ right? and if mine does too we'll have a :toast:
07-19-2005, 10:34 AM
Major

Ok one screen shot b4 having to get back to the office

Rig is in sig (server)

This is default settings, running 2 instances of PI 8m just for a temp base line.

I'll start OCing things later after work, I've got 2gig of Crucial Ballistix coming tomorrow to play with too :D
07-19-2005, 10:45 AM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Major

Got my 4400+ about 30 minutes ago. check out the pics !

I thought to myself, I'll go ahead and test it with the IHS on just to make sure it works ! but 2 mins later the IHS was off ! lol

I'm impressed with the heatsink that AMD includes ! pretty nice 4 heatpipe copper base.

Results later tonight! :D

lol, yeah I took mine off before installing also. By the way, I think the new stock heatsink probably looks better than it performs, but for any of you guys taking the spreader off. be warned that if you plan on using any sort of large clip down sink, there is a high risk of chiping a corner of the die. betest to use a even screw down type of sink or block, unless you are freezing of course.
07-19-2005, 10:47 AM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Major

Ok one screen shot b4 having to get back to the office

Rig is in sig (server)

This is default settings, running 2 instances of PI 8m just for a temp base line.

I'll start OCing things later after work, I've got 2gig of Crucial Ballistix coming tomorrow to play with too :D

1.26v??
07-19-2005, 10:49 AM
pentium777

Quote:

Originally Posted by Major

Ok one screen shot b4 having to get back to the office

Rig is in sig (server)

This is default settings, running 2 instances of PI 8m just for a temp base line.

I'll start OCing things later after work, I've got 2gig of Crucial Ballistix coming tomorrow to play with too :D

I will, without a doubt be anxiously awaiting your results this evening! How ironic that you have the 4400+ without the Ballistix and I have the Ballistix w/o the 4400+ but that will all be fixed tomorrow :banana:

I am hoping the 7800 will be here tomorrow too or I'll be on hold another day, coming from CA unfortunately to FL with fedex saver usually doesn't ship from CA but I'm hoping the normal 2 day but maybe 3 max just in time for the weekend.
07-19-2005, 10:53 AM
pentium777

Quote:

Originally Posted by xgman

lol, yeah I took mine off before installing also. By the way, I think the new stock heatsink probably looks better than it performs, but for any of you guys taking the spreader off. be warned that if you plan on using any sort of large clip down sink, there is a high risk of chiping a corner of the die. betest to use a even screw down type of sink or block, unless you are freezing of course.

I am without a doubt much too nervous to remove the IHS and clamp down with a risk of any damage, not because of the $$$ involved just because it would be a gross waste of $$$ is all.

On an unrelated note I was able to order a HLR7178W from Tweeter / Sound Advice today! for Aug delivery for any of you home theater fans. Gotta run down to pay for it now so I'm 3rd in line for the largest DLP ever created. :woot:
07-19-2005, 11:00 AM
pentium777

This certainly doesn't make sense

This is very strange, my office is in Davie, FL near both FT Lauderdale and Hollywood, as you can see below goes from FTL to HLWD then somehow gets back to FTL ramp? Strange they could have put in on a truck in FTL or HLWD and would have been to me already lol, I guess maybe someone is giving my 4400+ an extra long Fedex ride?

Jul 19, 2005 2:33 pm
Left FedEx Ramp
FORT LAUDERDALE FL

9:55 am
Arrived at FedEx Ramp
HOLLYWOOD FL

6:06 am
Arrived at FedEx Ramp
FORT LAUDERDALE FL
07-19-2005, 11:06 AM
Ugly n Grey

Everything from Fedex goes to central sorting in Dallas overnight and then is flown out to the shipping centers for dispersal and delivery. You chip may have a nice Texas accent when you get it.
07-19-2005, 11:12 AM
Major

Quote:

Originally Posted by xgman

1.26v??

It defaulted to 1.3v in bios, smartguardian reads all my voltages low.

What is it suppose to default to ?

I'm using 704-2 bios
07-19-2005, 11:17 AM
jinu117

Quote:

Originally Posted by Major

It defaulted to 1.3v in bios, smartguardian reads all my voltages low.

What is it suppose to default to ?

I'm using 704-2 bios

You are fine Major thats what mine defaulted to too.
07-19-2005, 11:24 AM
pentium777

Quote:

Originally Posted by Major

It defaulted to 1.3v in bios, smartguardian reads all my voltages low.

What is it suppose to default to ?

I'm using 704-2 bios

Which BIOS should I be using for my new DFI UT LP Ultra-D? I believe I downloaded 623-3 last night which shows X2 performances fixes glad they "fixed" it. I hope the performance is as expected now with this BIOS.
07-19-2005, 11:36 AM
Major

Quote:

Originally Posted by pentium777

Which BIOS should I be using for my new DFI UT LP Ultra-D? I believe I downloaded 623-3 last night which shows X2 performances fixes glad they "fixed" it. I hope the performance is as expected now with this BIOS.

I think the 704-2 is the best bios with the X2, it has one issue when using the 123% and above special Vid control where it can supply a dangerously high Vcore when changing the contol. But with the X2 I don't plan on having to use it ! lol

There is a modded bios that Bigtoe took out the 123% and above so it "shouldn't" happen. You will have to look around to find the post.

The 623-3 should be fine to start with though.

BTW, most peeps "in the know" use the -2 bios with all ram types it seems to be the most stable. I always used -3 for TCCD but after trying 510-2 have been using the -2 since.
07-19-2005, 11:39 AM
Ugly n Grey

There is a revised or fixed version of that BIOS that Oskar did without the vcore errors. I'm running -2 version of that, has given me my best overclocks and most stable memory access BY FAR to this point.... my $0.02
07-19-2005, 11:42 AM
Major

here is the link for the 704-2 modded ;)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=67910
07-19-2005, 11:45 AM
Ugly n Grey

Thanks Major, couldn't find that again meself
07-19-2005, 12:26 PM
pentium777

DFI Bios

I don't recall seeing that -2 bios on DFI's site, do I need to go into archives or something? The 623-3 was the newest certified is the 70x-2 beta?
07-19-2005, 12:39 PM
Ugly n Grey

basically all the BIOS in use around here(with the exception of user modded BIOS) is created by Oskar, a DFI employee/engineer..... having said that, it IS beta, but if you don't like it, reflash.
07-19-2005, 01:55 PM
xxmartin

ScienceMark2 results with X2

to download here
http://www.sciencemark.org/frame.php?frame=40
(latest 32-bit version, March 2005)

Results from AthlonXP, Athlon64, Northwood, Prescott and Extreme Edition are located here:

http://www.x86-secret.com/articles/c...ott/p4e-13.htm

http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.c...id=1535&page=8

My simulation times with X2 4400+ @ 10x275 MHz (2750 MHz)

Molecular Dynamics
http://mitglied.lycos.de/xxmartin99/...750_moldyn.png

Primordia
http://mitglied.lycos.de/xxmartin99/..._primordia.png

Primordia

EE @ 3.7 GHz : 355 sec.
X2 @ 2.75 GHz: 242 sec.

EE 50% slower

Molecular Dynamics

EE @ 3.2 GHz : 90.7 sec.
X2 @ 2.75 GHz : 53.9 sec.

EE 70% slower

64-bit ScienceMark could even score better (just as 64-bit Cinebench is much faster than 32-bit).

btw.

Almost 2.8 GHz running 5 hours dual-primestable with 1.5V very cool and quiet. :D
Low temperatures only possible by removing heatspreader.

http://mitglied.lycos.de/xxmartin99/...2780@1.504.png

Martin

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