Xtreme Twinmos Memory!

seems TwinMOS simply speed bin ALL chips at 2.5-3-3 (or whatever the rated timings are) and then label them accordingly... Eg, 44D, 50D, 60D, etc.
Some chips may be good for 4.4ns (227 MHz) but not for 2-2-2 timings... eg Hynix 43B or whatever...

the date code ending in "4" may be what TwinMOS do in house to label Winbond chips... makes tracking down common errors with a certain supplier easier if they know where the chips were made.

AADT vs AA4T definately relates to the last digit of the date code by the looks...

Sounds like we should cross our fingers the new stock they just got in is the "new" stuff.

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Originally Posted by Playful_Buffalo

if there is any more controversey, i am gonna get a migraine

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Aren't you too young to get migraines...I thought that was just for us old folks. :)

Besides, what controversy? This is just a fact finding mission we are all on at the moment. We are all on the same team here.

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Originally Posted by Reefa_Madness

Some one else mentioned the 4 vs. the D on the date code. That info matches the product codes...if it performs well..it has a 4 after the date AND on the parts # label, if it doesn't, the ones with the D after the date code also have it in the part # and these do not clock as well.

The TwinMOS parts number is just indicating the same thing that is being printed on the chips themselves.

This 4 is what we should be looking for and is indicating the Winbond chips, whether or not it is a TwinMOS or an M.tec chip, they both are holding true on this.

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:toast: At last :D

yes I also think that if the date ends with 4 it's winbond ! I have 2 sticks of 256mb twinmos at the moment. one is AA4T other is AADT. the AA4T stick's date ends with 4 and the AADT stick's date ends with D. I can't look at my 512mb sticks because they have heatspreaders on them. but as soon as possible I'm gonna look at them ;)

Good news...newegg in stock!

Bad news...same old picture!

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...218-405&depa=1

so it's a gamle ? i'm not ready spending 80$ for not good ram...

afterall outpost has back in stock KHX3200K2/1G -CH5...for 140$....

Is TwinMOS Speed Premium no longer "guaranteed" UTT?

@reefa - thanks man thats makes sense now. Theres just too many similar codes on these chips to make any sense of them :D

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Originally Posted by sparkie34

Mine are identiacal to yours trans. But I can make out the winbond dots on the chips. No boot here either. So twinmos is saying all the NEWER stock will have the utt chips?

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afaik only twinmos/m.tec (not all) and twinmos speed premium (newer ones with lets say "winbond dots") have winbond utt. normal twinmos/twinmos is psc, former speed premium was selected psc...

check out this page to find out something about the "old" TwinMOS Speed Premium

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Originally Posted by Alonso

afaik only twinmos/m.tec (not all) and twinmos speed premium (newer ones with lets say "winbond dots") have winbond utt. normal twinmos/twinmos is psc, former speed premium was selected psc...

check out this page to find out something about the "old" TwinMOS Speed Premium

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The link is NOT working for me ;)

the link is fine if you remove the first "http://" from the address bar

well my 2nd 256 does only 261 mhz 2-2-2 so it's slightly slower than my 1st stick. SO 261 with 2x256 is my high right now. need to do some burning in. I think it's safe to say newegg has the good 512 sticks now. My vx is still faster and it's a whole gig. 2x512 @264 but they were $260 at the time.

:rolleyes:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/T.../SpeedPremium/

lol. alsonso. THose are the same ones I just got today. 0443. are you the alonso from the ocz VX blackmail letter?

I said that the 4 in the date code correlated with the 4 in the P/N which also correlated with good overclockers back on pages 10 & 12....

TwinMOS , like much bought on the internet, was never garunteed of anything (except working at the default spped settings)... We were just following a lead on the product...

If you are having trouble figuring out if you want to open the package or not look at the p/n code if it ends in AA4T, open it and overclock at 2-2-2. If it has a "D", "D"on't open it!!!! IT WILL NOT OVERCLOCK AS WELL AS THE AA4T.

If you want it even more general, look at the chips.. If there is no Letters on the 2 row , (the row that has 5 digits on it *the same number as how many fingers you should have on one hand*) then you have a good stick of memory. Be happy.

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Alonso,

Are you the same Alonso that posted over at BleedinEdge on these chips back on 12-16-04?

I sent you a PM asking about them but never got a response. I just figured that OCZ had BE close your account or something...you became a marked man for disclosing it. :)

Yours was the first post that I saw that pointed to the M.tec chips. Thanks for the tip.

Speaking of OCZ...has anyone seen a post from them on this topic since all of this M.tec stuff got out? I sure haven't.

Back to TwinMOS...I am going to hold off on those Speed Premiums at newegg until either the picture changes or someone else orders. My fellow member at OC Forums is holding 2 of the OCZ value line PC2700 with the M.tec chips and BP PCB so I think I'll get those. He hit his cpu's limit of 255 (a 3.2 P4) before without being limited by the ram and one of the guys here got 275 on a A64 with the same 60D (PC2700) chips, both at 2-2-2-x, using 3.6-3.7v, so that is plenty good for me.

BTW Tictac's friend that got 267MHz 2-2-2, does not have AADT in the p/n, his date codes end with a 4.....

TicTac got the AADT p/n and was dissapointed in his overclock but wanted to show the successes of his friends using the AA4T (the ones with 4 at the end of the date code)



PS ... What are these chips doing on 3.2v... I only just got a DFi 250Gb and the max volts without tweaks is 3.2v...

jus something about tictac's modules.... im pretty sure he bought his about 6 months ago.... so they were never going to be good

well, i hope ocz guys will still have a beer or two with me on cebit 2005 :rolleyes:

btw. i have nothing to do with the letter but i´m the same alonso as here ;)


@ reefa


sry... i just didn´t look up my pm...

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Originally Posted by Bennah

Turned up the brightness and contrast... I see one middle dot on the IC far right (middle dot nearess top) cant seem to see the other one though. Havnt got PS installed to probe for further investigation :D

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well i'm assuming that if it has one middle dot, it has the other.... am i right in assuming that? which IC only has the one side of middle dots like winbond?

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Originally Posted by gulp35

BTW Tictac's friend that got 267MHz 2-2-2, does not have AADT in the p/n, his date codes end with a 4.....

TicTac got the AADT p/n and was dissapointed in his overclock but wanted to show the successes of his friends using the AA4T (the ones with 4 at the end of the date code)



PS ... What are these chips doing on 3.2v... I only just got a DFi 250Gb and the max volts without tweaks is 3.2v...

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I knew that someone else had already posted that about the date and the 4 vs D but couldn't remember who had done it. Good call on that.

Also, thanks for the clarification about tictac's friend. It just didn't seem right, after all the fact finding that we've done, for those sticks to do well and be AADTs. It would have put large holes in our theories. Glad you cleared that up.

Our theories are still valid so far.

TM Parts # of 4 = date code with #4 on chip = Winbond UTT = great chips!

< weeks 44 : not utt

> weeks 44 : utt

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Originally Posted by Alonso

well, i hope ocz guys will still have a beer or two with me on cebit 2005 :rolleyes:

btw. i have nothing to do with the letter but i´m the same alonso as here ;)


@ reefa


sry... i just didn´t look up my pm...

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So then they didn't close your account and kick you off BE? j/k

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Originally Posted by tictac

< weeks 44 : not utt

> weeks 44 : utt

:slap:

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Why did you remove the pics of your friends??

nevermind they are back. date ending with 4 :toast:

no didnt remove geocities running out of bandwith

anyway his thread is just Bellow this thread

Benny Lodewijk & Setyotomo

they are my friends... now they doing bulk order as well :)

They hand picked it direct from distributor :)