The 2ghz chips have went down in price again. $19.99 each and the auction says there are 285 in stock.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
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The 2ghz chips have went down in price again. $19.99 each and the auction says there are 285 in stock.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Ok, little help for the dummy?
What do I have to do to fit a PCI sound card to my Intel mobo'd Sammy?
I have a Creative CT4810 (well two of them actually) but they won't physically fit in either slot. I've seen reference to the longer slot being PCI compatible but it's a no-go physically. What do I have to mod and how?
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Originally Posted by D_A
thats odd that the PCI card doesnt physically fit in the PCIX slot :shrug:
how old is the soundcard?
it definitelt wont fit in the PCIEx8 slot - & for good reason! :p:
if the soundcard doesnt fit, I'm not aware of any mod to make it do so :(
How old? It originally sold with drivers for DOS and Win3.1, though they kept up the drivers till Win XP.
Here's the card: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...PCI_CT4810.jpg
thats not old!Quote:
Originally Posted by D_A
thats friggin' JURASSIC! :ROTF: :p:
so one of the notches on mobo/card doesnt line up? :(
There's no notch in the card at the plate end to line up with a post in the PCI-x slot and no room to shove it down further without pulling the plate off, which I can't do as if I get this working it will be my girls' daily drive.
Ah.. it's not universal PCI...
y'see, there are 2 versions of PCI-X - a 3.3V one and a 5V one. Most modern PCI cards are universally-keyed to fit into either type - the connector has 2 'cuts' that look fairly symmetrical. Yours only has one.
Spot the difference here:
http://digital.ni.com/public.nsf/web...RevPciGpib.jpg
Modding it would most likely destroy it...
Yep, that slot on the left hand end in the picture is what I'm missing.
Ok, anyone reading this thread can now determine that a Creative Labs CT4810 will NOT fit into the Intel motherboard.
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Originally Posted by karbonkid
I *knew that it had something to do with the 3.3V & 5V thingy! :D just didnt know how to explain it! :p:
:up:
I might be able to send you a spare SB live card if I can find it.
Yeah I might have a spare audio card too
I'm a little hesitant only because my trust level in the postal service isn't overly high right now.
I ordered a USB sound adaptor from eBay. Cost me a dollar. Even if it doesn't work I can't go too far wrong.
I have a one dollar usb sound adapter from Ebay "hong kong to be exact" and it works perfectly fine.
Had a close call with the Sossamen this afternoon. Lightning strike so close I'm gonna poop sparks for a week! Lost my router and a network switch (phone line to the router and the switch was dicky anyway). Thankfully had spares but I've lost a LOT of functionality with this new router. Can't find an advanced configuration page anywhere in the stupid thing! :shakes:
Your going to be out of luck on the sound card thing - it's probably a better idea to just get a new sound card :(
somone needs to make a clean new thread with info listed in thread #1
lol..
where is that link to the heatsinks again? or is there one?
I am right in saying that I can remove the plastic bit that covers the bigger chipset heatsink? And the only reason it's there is for channeling airflow if one was using a rackmount 1/2u chassis?
you should leave it on. asking for problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Origin_Unknown
the amount of airflow gain would be.. useless. :shrug:
What i mean is - if i remove it then i can use a fan blowing directly onto it but with it on, that fan is just blowing onto the plastic
Yes take it off.
Well there's no need to create new thread but i can always edit that post :)
Sossaman heatsinks, part no. ABBHEATSINK
Get 'em HERE
WARNING: absolutely HIDEOUS shipping outside the US.
Yup,pull it off..Quote:
Originally Posted by Origin_Unknown
Also the smaller aluminum SB HS is the one you want todefinately cool.
Gets very hot without something on it to cool it.
oh man.. do i feel stupid..Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
i thought for some reason he was asking about the bit of plastic on the backside of the cpu sockets..
LOL..
... im hoping to learn to read really soon.. :D
I bought 2GB (4x512MB) RAM last night.. I want to see if it'll work in my PERC5i's.. if it doesnt, someone here can have it :up:
any better place to get em yet? i dont like spending more on heatsinks than on cpus..Quote:
Originally Posted by D_A
thats a wee bit hard considering the CPUs are ~$10! :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by NKrader
I'm going back to sossaman too.. after much deliberation about what I need/want in a server.. I'm going to put a 8 port SATA PCIX card in the PCIX slot & a 16 port SATA/SAS HBA in the PCIEx8 slot.. that gives me a max of 30 SATA ports (without port multipliers attached to the onboard SI3124).
so the mobo, CPU & RAM is cheap enough & easy to get.. but where to get appropriate heatsinks? :D
$13 a unit is pretty damn good, especially for something as specialised as this!Quote:
Originally Posted by NKrader
As far as I'm aware this is also the ONLY place you can get them.
any of the supermicro mobo owners have any problems/quirks to report?
are u / can u use both PCIEx8 slots?
cheers :up:
finally going to throw one of these rigs together so i had to do a little back searching for the mobo in this thread. this same place has them on ebay too for the same price shipped as they sell in the store.Quote:
Originally Posted by NKrader
Item number: 370474470286
http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Dual-Xeon-...item5641ffcb8e
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Originally Posted by 95blackz26
thats the same place ;)
i know that's why i said it was the same place. so whether it's the ebay storefront or there actual website storefront one could be bought.Quote:
Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss
gotchya, mis-understood u, my bad :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by 95blackz26
edit: for the love of pete, when are smilies gonna work again!
Second, the sarcasm doesn't work w/o smilies :EQuote:
Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss
bump for an answer :)Quote:
Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss
:) almost two of a kind
Looking good :). I hope everything works out for you.
Heres it is. got it all wired up and almost ready to crunch
almost done. waiting for matching harddrive and sata cables. and one more noctua.
THEN COMPLETE!!
then a little later. 2x micro wireless g adapters so i can stick this whole thing in a closet or somthing.
YAYYYYY!
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...700/sammy1.jpg
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...700/sammy2.jpg
on another note.
i spent 35$ on the whole second sammy :D 9$ more than those silly expensive heatsinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by D_A
Looking good. Looks very clean. I think you should leave it right where it is. It goes well with the upholstery on your couch. ;)
Looks to me like you're using four of those "silly expensive" heatsinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by NKrader
It' doesn't look like he's able to answer
mmm this looks so interesting! a couple of questions though..
1) can windows 7 or any other 32bit OS see 4GB or more?
2) places to obtain the heatsinks or cheaply mod ones?
im mainly interestied cuz its so inexpensive for a whole setup and it draws so little power... ive been missing out!
Modding heatsinks is possible ... but kinda fiddly. I've posted a link to where they can be bought pretty cheaply considering they fit one and only one motherboard in this thread not long ago.
As for the memory, any server operating system SHOULD (and I've been assured here that Windows Server does) have the necessary extras to handle more RAM, though I don't think the desktop version will.
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Originally Posted by D_A
IM BACK SUCKAS!Quote:
Originally Posted by Origin_Unknown
took a small vacation :)
i spent 35$ on the second rig and a total of 15$ on the first 2 heatsinks :)
will get some more pics of the upgrades :) got 2 nano wireless adapters for em. now i can stuff em in my closet
And to think I spent nearly $200 on my first sammy when I built it. Wow.
:eek: i wish i could get a complete sammy rig for that much!!
here it is. almost done. just need to buy 4x noctua 80mm fans & 2x Antec SpotCool :) but its runnin. 2 comps only 1 cable going to em, power. at full tilt pulls 208watts from the wall :D
YAY
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...an9700/2-2.jpg
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...an9700/1-3.jpg
Nicely done. :)
Sounds about right. Mine pulled 212W on a 75% efficient PSU (Antec Smartpower 2.0)
and its ready for me to add my 9800gtx+ when i get a new videocard :) as it has one 6pin and 200watts to spair
yayyyy
You've already cut the end out of the PCI-x slot?
na. i think i will just buy a 90degree riser cardQuote:
Originally Posted by D_A
awe had ram slot #1 die last night on one of em..
good thing i have an extra board sitting around :D
back up and runnin
so I'm guessing you just had a 24>2*24pin and an 8>2*8pin setup on the PSU to power both??
NKrader mind sharing how much and where you found the heatsinks? i feel a bit dumb to spend as much on heatsinks equal to a mobo+2 cpus+ and RAM.
You can get the motherboard, two CPUs and RAM for less than $27 + postage? The board costs $10 + postage on it's own, so you're saying you can get 2 CPUs and RAM for under $17 posted.
i over exaggerated, but i should've stated excluding shipping. The motherboard is $10, the CPUs linked are also $10 a piece now and I figured another $10 or so for the RAM. So including shipping I cant see it be more than $55-60 shipped?
From the intel site, the heatsinks alone would cost around $37 shipped to California. So i guess 33% of the total build =P.
regardless, this is a pretty cool setup for $100 US, if indeed the $13 heatsinks are the lowest around.
maybe cuz i got some TX3 for $13 apiece that I feel those are a bit pricey, and without a fan to boot. however, as u have mentioned, it seems like a steal when you take into account how specialized they are.
nope i have already been told by everyone that thats as cheap as they get. i got em cheap becuase i purchased em back when they were sold by another company. and the other one i purchased as a package from another user :)
Yep :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Origin_Unknown
I think the RAM will cost you a little more than $10 (DDR2 400MHZ, ECC, REG and NO substitutions. These boards are fussy about RAM) but for a specialised item you'd usually expect them to add $100 to the base price. Not in this case, thankfully.Quote:
Originally Posted by endlesszeal
yep i have 2 sticks of that stuff sitting here that dont work for some reason.. the board is very very pickyQuote:
Originally Posted by D_A
If you need some I do believe I have a couple 1GB sticks that work in it lying around here someplace.
i want em! :) i think i need more than 2.5gbQuote:
Originally Posted by Sparky
endlesszeal gets first dibs if he wants them for a Sossaman since he has none :)
im just joking lol i rarely go over 600mb used even when botting on diablo 2Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky
Do you have a sound card in it somehow?
why?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky
you dont need to have a sound card to run a bot for a game ;)
it runs headless. then bout once a day i get on and see what its found :)
I'm using Sossaman rigs for my kid's machines. Since they only play web based flash games and such the onboard video and a $2 USB sound adaptor work just fine.
a quick search on ebay shows there is a few for $10-15 shipped for 2x1GB modules.Quote:
Originally Posted by D_A
man sparky, tempting me too much..Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky
a quick search on ebay shows there is a few for $10-15 shipped for 2x1GB modules.Quote:
Originally Posted by D_A
man sparky, tempting me too much..Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky
bad luck... first the ram slot.
now had a HD die last night.. meh. i had it less than 2 weeks. time to give some neg feedback on the fleabay
If you bought the drive used and it worked for 2 weeks I'd say the seller isn't responsible. It wasn't DOA so I don't see it being his fault.
I could send you an 80GB drive for cost of shipping if you want. Just don't hold me responsible for its lifespan as it's a free item :p:
haha i need a sata drive with molex power.. gawww.. :D im just weird like thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Sparky
thanks tho
Well, I'll throw in a molex > sata power adapter then :D
eww gross.. i like my crunchers to look good :) i dont like all the cables and such running about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky
anyways. seller is sending me a new one on tuesday :up:
Picky :p:
did you not realize this when i said i was going to spend around 65$ on 4 noctua fans for my sammy rigs?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky
and i already have one of the 30$ 140mm ones in the psu powering em :D
i really wouldnt mind another one or ten :D
Hey NKRader simple question for you how did u get both pcs to run off the same pc? I have the cables to get the power distributed but how do you turn them both on at the same time?
I couldnt get both sammies to run like you have it.
emu
I did this once too.
You have to hit the power button on each one to turn both on. Yes, when the PSU turns on by turning on one of the Sossamans it will turn on the fans of the other, but it won't actually start up until you hit the power switch of the second one.
Also, turning off one won't turn off the other or the power supply. Only after the second one powers off will the power supply then shut off.
and to add to that. i have em setup in bios to power up as soon as they get power. so i dont have to just flick the switch on backside of psu. and they both start at the same time
Thanks guys I will see how I go. Time permitting will have a crack at it tonight.
Is it possible to use a Sammy CPU in a single-socket board such as this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWAX:IT?
Man, this is so confusing - Socket 478, socket 479, socket M, Socket P, Xeon (Sammy) PPGA478... aaargh!
don't think this will work. I'm not 100% sure though
no. if i remember right it only only only works with the intel board. or that rare supermicro board.Quote:
Originally Posted by karbonkid
i want to say its not a "true" s479.
just buy the full atx..
Thanks. I was more wanting to get the board and asking about the CPUs, than wanting a Sammy and asking about the board. Thinking of building me a Hackintosh...Quote:
Originally Posted by NKrader
Intel board + Sammys is tempting but means spending lots on a case...
not so much. just gotta search a bit and get somthing ugly.Quote:
Originally Posted by karbonkid
or use cardboard like the rest of us.
or hacking up a regular case to make room. I have three here in normal ATx cases that have been ... massaged internally (with tin snips) to make room.
I chopped the 3.5" bays and part of the lowest 5.25" bay out of an old Antec case to fit a Sossaman in when I went to having just one instead of two.
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...0408002038.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...0408002233.jpg
when you buy the heatsinks, do you get the backplate? if not, where is a good place to get them? also, i noticed in the manual there is a little mechanism (spring maybe?) that goes between the backplate and motherboard.
so backplate -> mechanism -> motherboard -> heatsinks.
all you have to get isQuote:
Originally Posted by endlesszeal
Backplate/Mobo/CPU/Heatsink
everything else is included with the others.
gotta buy the backplate.
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=21884
& then theres that Tyan mobo ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by NKrader
I think its even on ebay atm.. for an astronomical ~USD$330... new.. :rolleyes:
umm.. where did all the sossy 2ghz CPUs go?? the listing on ebay has 'magically' ended.. as if all sold out.. there were ~250 of them - MOVIEMAN!??!??! :p:
interesting it says they are no longer available - maybe they got fed up and just binned em'?
ive got 2 of em sittin here on my desk. got em from seller and never got around to using them. yours for the price of shipping :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss
:eek: !
2x 2ghz?! YES PLEASE!!!! double check please, but the last time I shipped a cpu + ram it cost USD$13 with USPS - if it checks out & all is ok, send me your paypal addy & I'll pay :up: :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by NKrader
Hi,
I'm kind of new to this, but I think I'd like to try building one of these rigs. I still need to read through more of this thread, but I wanted to ask a couple of questions first so I wouldn't get my hopes up unnecessarily. :P
1) Is building one of these a reasonable project for someone who isn't scared about poking around inside a case or installing an OS, but hasn't gone through the whole motions of building a full system? From the sounds of things, it looks like I'd have fun doing this build and not spend a lot of money at the same time! (Also, it would give me some practice in system building before I go ahead and build my new desktop next spring after I receive my financial aid refund.)
2) Are the heatsinks still available somewhere? I found the motherboard and backplate, and am willing to patiently hunt on ebay for the CPUs, but the link I see come up most often here is dead.
3) I would need to set this up to crunch in my room at home, which only has a wireless connection (running a cable would be a pain). Would this system with some flavor of Linux support me installing a PCI wireless card or do you know of any alternatives?
Basically my plan is to grab pieces for this system as budget and supply allow, with a goal to get it finished no later than the end of winter break (but hopefully before the next SuperComputer Week!). Sound good?
Thanks for the help!
Keep reading, the only place to reliably get heat sinks (for the Intel boards at least) is direct from Intel. The link is in the last couple of pages. The chances of finding them on eBay are remote at best. You MIGHT get lucky, but don't hold your breath. The Intel board has dual gigabit LAN connections, I don't know about the others but expect something similar. If you can they'd be better to use than wireless, but if you insist then get yourself a decent brand wireless card (Linksys etc, just not no-name stuff) and most modern Linux variants will support it pretty well. Be aware that the Intel board is E-ATx and won't readily fit in a regular case without some ... massaging ... with a drill, tin snips, Dremel etc. It can be done (I've done three) but it can also be pretty permanent for the case. One of the other boards might be regular ATx, I don't know.
I found the link for the heat sinks, thank you! I do plan on buying the Intel board from Centrix and unfortunately, yes, for now it has to be wireless as the DSL box is on a different floor and opposite side of the house from the room where I'll keep this machine. I have a Linksys card that I used in my old P4 desktop, so I should be good to go there. Thank you again!
Mine are setup on wireless. Makes it kinda nice.