well, i given up on 500fsb 5/6 ddr2-1200. now trying max cpu OC,so far 4427.http://i36.tinypic.com/2sao6qg.jpg
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well, i given up on 500fsb 5/6 ddr2-1200. now trying max cpu OC,so far 4427.http://i36.tinypic.com/2sao6qg.jpg
Hmmm. What is your TJmax? Do you watercool NB and SB? Too low temps.
485fsb is my wall for now, still trying...must...get...over...500fsb:P
Have to get my watercooling up again.
CryptiK: I think you are right with the Nb-temps. Totaly crash if its get around 54-55.
This is what I get today with the 200 strap :
http://pix.nofrag.com/a/a/0/9dd9a154...b89d0773tt.jpg
And I'm supposed to be proud so ? :(
That`s my result. Room temp is 25,5 degrees.
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/4065/60832719qj3.jpg
Under Linpack I have 65\65 degrees of both cores.
Idle temps are 44\39.
Do I have the good core temps with my single waterblock loop?
@waterflex,mine is all aircooled, i have a dryer vent hooked up to my airconditioner that blows very cool air directly into the front intake of my computer.heres a quik run with air conditioner off,mind you its still pretty cool in my house.http://i35.tinypic.com/2u41tg6.jpg
I am finding it almost impossible to get 666 MHz (DDR2-1333) bench stable. My CellShock GKX & TeamGroup GMH sticks all top out at 660MHz, and my Team Group can do 666MHz max screen but very unstable. More vdimm is not helping, neither is the DDR2 CHA/B ref or NB DDR Ref voltages.
Has anyone got over 666MHz on this board?
Asus need to improve the ram overclocking ability. The UD3P leaves the M2F in the dust in this regard.
I get 63*C both cores with Linpack, 1.336vcore at 25*C ambient with a lapped TRUE and Antec 120mm fan on low (~1200 rpm).Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterFlex
Idle is around 36*C.
**EDIT - on the NB temp/instability issue, I was just testing and I was using 1.40v NB and half way through SPI32M it errored with 'not exact in round" so I bumped the vNB to 1.51v and it was idleing at 54*C (lol) so I restarted SPI32M it got about 2 loops in and the system bluescreened and restarted. I think it may have got to ~60*C or so, but I cant be sure I didn't have probe open. It was either the voltage or the temp that made it unstable. I see many people run 1.6 vNB on the UD3P's with no stability issues, so its either a NB VRM issue at higher voltages, or A2 rev. NB issue where it cant handle 1.5V+ and gets unstable above 50*C.
I think I am going to pull the boards sinks off again and try to get better contact on the NB, I really want to be able to run up to 1.6 vNB for benching but there's no way I could do that at the moment due to temps.
CryptiK
sweet temps, mate!
CryptiK: You lucky pig:D
My board refuses 1200mhz on the memory, 1199 is okey:confused:, i think i try another bios.....but all the other bioses is bugged:S
And i thinking about taking out my mobo to glue couple of 40mm fans on the nb and stuff.
I cant use the fans that come with the board since my Noctua with 2 fans take to much place.
I had exactly the same issue you're having but with my old P5Q-Deluxe, it would not do DDR2-1200 no matter what. 1199 fine, 1200 no boot. I RMA'd it for that reason, they are advertised to support DDR-1200, and it didn't function correctly and as advertised, so it has been replaced.
If I were you I'd RMA mate.
Okey, thanks for the advice=) I will try some more and see.
This sounds crazy, but it did 1200 in Xp:S But is no-go in Vista, thats why i wil try some more=)
interesting, have you the same VID (1.1250)?Quote:
Originally Posted by humeyboy
No my VID is 1.2125v which seems weird as it can do 4GHZ on far less than the VID claims to need for stock with and its BS anyhow cause the CPU is 1.2v stock not 1.2125v.
Its the 1st time ever I have had a CPU inc CO Wolfdales that has a VID higher than the stock Voltages but its claimed lower VID's run hotter.
I remember the VID used to change as you OC on my previous CO Wolfdales, this stays static in Coretemp and in RealTemp there is a VID range and its MIN 1.087v to MAX 1.2125v.
I'm having major issues with this Mobo it seems temperamental or flaky and 1 Core drops out at 4.5GHZ (always same Core) but both are stable at about 1.325v and can run on their own overnight (8hours), if I set Affinity to run 1 Core at a time, no amount of voltage gets both to run any length of time (like 15min is MAX)
I am messing with my old memory and its seems to run better (ran 2 hours before I stopped it) but still can act up, weird its only in Small FFT's and I think the Mobo is to blame going by other weird power related issues.
I will need sit down and type out my issues and try get some help later on tonight.
ive given up on my maximusII.it wont do ddr 1200 . going back to my UD3P
http://images35.fotosik.pl/35/559c17b552672d31.jpg
This is 2h P95 stable (turned off test after) but you can see temps...
MB is like this even right after turning the PC ... rest readings built up during Priming. Ambient temps are around 20-23C.
Case is P180 clean/no cables airflow 3x120 Noctua (2x exhoust + 1xCPU) and 1x 120 Scythe intake - which does not change temps by even 1C :D.
HDDs are with PSU so they are not adding any temps into main chamber.
IBT gave me 75 :D after 5mins so I did shoot it down ;).
Both True and CPU are lapped with AS5.
Should I reset MB cooling as I can see most pl has temps in mid 40 at max.
Or should I just send this mobo and take new MF2 without MB issue and new revision as well (this one is pretty old - I can tel from bios which came with it originally - and anyway it was for sure used before...).
What do you think PPL?
EDIT - before commenting my lapping quality I will say that core 3 is almost completely stuck and 4 semi stuck :D
yes, with real temp i've 0.9375 to 1..1250 it's a 435 (final numbers) ... anyway my mobo is died :( when i start my system i've an infinite series of fake boots ... unfortunately some liquid cooler is gone onto the pcb ...Quote:
Originally Posted by humeyboy
Shame :(Quote:
Originally Posted by KURTZ
Sometimes this Mobo wont boot even at stock esp if i have changed any setting in bios even 1 not to do with speed or voltage.
Fix is to unplug it and press the power button a few times then boot up as normal, but at times it loads up defaults or setting I have never touched or set in Bios like Skew etc.
I then need load my own Profile and boot up.
I think this is another CRAP ROG Mobo and I have had the Crosshair/Striker Extreme/Striker II Formula and now this Buggy POS.
If your loading a saved profile from pervious bios versions it wil create problems. Always clear cmos and load settings manually.Quote:
Originally Posted by humeyboy
Personally I use AFUDOS and the /pbnc /n switches...
No, I always re do my profiles each new bios.
This Mobo is touchy and I'm no better of than I was on the POS Striker Extreme TBH.
Any comments on my previous post ? :up:
This is the most annoying "bug" with this mb. :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
My oc requires 1.51v vNB which is ok, but anything higher than 1.55v makes system totally unstable.
Temps aren't a problem cause i'm wc'ing the NB.
JoeBar
Does MCW-NBMAX take emitted heat from mosfets and SB efficiently also?
I haven't tested it on air, to see the diffs from wc'ing, m8. Surely it takes some heat out of mosfets and sb though, cause it seats over the heatpipe.Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterFlex
What is your temps of SB, POWER, NB, MB under linpack? And what is room temp.
Can you post your PC pic, please? ;)
after setting up my UD3P and my new E8400, it was very easy to get 533x8 with cellshocks running 5/6 divider.something which was virtually impossible for (me at least)to do on my new maxII that i got back from RMA.also after i got maxII out of my case i inspected it a little more closely,it is very bowed where the mosfets are and the i/o shield is.it just amazes me how bad these boards are.they look awesome,but performance wise, not that great.also my e8500 needs 1.32v to run 4250 8.5x500 on my UD3P yet on the maxII it needed 1.38-1.39v. same thing with my new E8400.so it seems that the 6phase power of the UD3P is much more better than the 12 phase of the maxII.maybe the A3 revision of the p45 is what makes the UD3P better,i dont know? but i do know that ive have had two MAXII and they are nowhere near as good as the UD3P. for instance how many bio's has the maxII had?how many made a difference?have any fixed the main problems? no.but my main gripe w/maxII is the craftmanship,maybe im unlucky to get two twisted and bowed boards, maybe there are flat ones out there?i dont know,but paying 270$ for a board that doesnt work and having to send it back only to recieve a warped and twisted one back makes me a little upset. and the board i bought(130$)to hold me over till i got my RMA backout performs it in every aspect.it just pisses me off.well enough venting guess ill just bight the bullitt on this one,im out 270$ with a board that gonna sit in a box from now on. edit-the one real great thing about maxII is all the sensors.
radaja
I`m agree with you ;)
I haven't checked with Linpack but after 2hours prime blend and 21'C ambient temp, i got:Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterFlex
NB: 47'C (with 1.51v vNB)
SB: 46'C
Power: 46'C
MB: 39'C
BTW here's a quick shot of my system i took for u now... :)
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/8...0168ft2.th.jpg
JoeBar
Wow. Amazing system. I like it very much!
Very nice temps of NB and SB. But Power (mosfets) and MB temps are quite high, aren they?
I ask you about it because I have a serious problem.
Before LCS I had TT BT VX which blew around CPU socket area. My system was totally stable. After installing LCS, I became totally unstable. To fix it, I had to place fan and put it on tubes:
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/8...0103952tc0.jpg
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/15/p10103962tl0.jpg
After using many asus motherboards with inaccurate mb temps i stopped taking them into consideration... :p:
As for pwr temp, i don't think that they're high if u consider the facts that i run with high vNB (which stresses the entire heatpipe system) and no active cooling on the mosfets. What do u get when priming blend?
BTW since u have the 120mm fan blowing u don't need asus crappy fan...
With fan when priming I have NB=50, Power=38, SB=46, MB=35. Ambient is 26-27. Stableness.
Without fan: NB=60, Power 44, SB=50, MB=40. totally unstable... Even 50 passes of Linpack with 200 RAM usage gives me 1 of 50.......
If i should point a possible reason for your instability, i would go for the high NB temp when without a fan.
But I start getting errors when NB is still 51, Power=40, SB=49, MB=35.
Yeah I have, slightly:p: This was 2 months ago so it must have been one of the first bioses out there. I don't have the board anymore so can't check it either. But yes 666+ is possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn7/OTHGendo/716.jpg
Edit: I know it says ddr3 but it is the m2f. This was when cpu-z was stil giving errors with P45 so yeah that proves it's old.
I believe the bios version I used was 0503, not 100% sure but looking at the list of bioses that version rings the most bells:p:
100% sure my bios was 0802 or older. (the roms are still on my usb:p:)
Edit2: And about the NB problem you're having: I've noticed that going higher than ~1.43v causes instability and lowers fsb overclocking. But trust me, 1.43v is enough for both high fsb and high mem clocking. Proof: http://hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=778618
i think after thanksgiving weekend im going to RMA my RMA. i'll take some pictures of it so they can see the crap they are sending out to paying customers.maybe my next one will be of some sort of quality standard.who knows?just maybe. i can hope.
new bios 1702 available
Quote:
Maximus II Formula 1702 Bios
1. Add "Intel(R) C-STATE tech" item
2. Revise CPU Speed when "Ai Overclock Tuner" is "Auto"
Yep, old news, best out is still 1307........:shakes:
My board was not bowed. Perhaps I just got a good sample, every manufacturer has a few less than perfect samples floating around, like the UD3P's that blew up taking the cherry picked e8600's with them, and the other that blew running DDR2-1100 and took out 4GB ($300 worth) of G.Skill PI 9600.Quote:
Originally Posted by radaja
I can't comment on the CPU VRM compared to the UD3P as I haven't used one, but mine seems fine, it requires the exact same vcore as my P5Q-Deluxe did for the same clocks.
When you say 533 FSB / 639.5 MHz was virtually impossible, do you mean you couldn't get it perfectly stable, or you couldn't bench, or you couldn't get into windows? I can bench at 534 FSB / 640 MHz at 1.40 vNB & 2.2 vdimm, but it's not stable, I'd need closer to 2.4 vdimm to get 640 MHz stable. I can also bench 550 FSB / 660 MHz but I would have to increase vNB & vdimm to stabilize that, but I think the NB temps at the required vNB would prevent stability.
I think the M2F is a good solid all rounder, and the temp/voltage readouts are a definite plus. Perhaps the UD3P is better at high ram clocks and high FSB (due to A3 rev. chipset) and I'd like to get one to try them out, but the M2F is a good 24/7 P45 board.
Sorry mate but thats using the 3:5 divider so its really 2:3 giving 644.4 MHz (DDR-1289 MHz). Still nothing to be taken lightly, but I'm still yet to see someone get over what I can get with this board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gendo
I have also found my GKX do not clock as well as my GMH. The GKX do lower clocks on less voltage, and clock better on CL4, but wont go as high as the GMH.
@cryptik, at even 500x8 let alone 533x8 i couldnt get it to even bootpast det ramduring boot cycle. i was however able to get it to boot into windows at 499x8.i really think that ive gotten two bad boards. i dont know if you remember my first one(very low volts issue) and every success i had on that one 466x9 priming for 1hr was followed by next reboot same settings fail prime after 1 second.it was a very flakey board.and now this board gets sent to me and its all warped is just plain frustating.i wish i had one that decent like yours. cause dont get me wrong i really liked the maxII thats why i bought it and sold my P5Q deluxe.anyway im just venting i do think the maxII is a great board,i mean just look at the newegg reviews its been the #1 p45 board for months now.i just wish i had a good one.cheers
That definitely sounds like a dodgey board, what a shame, and really bad luck to get 2 bad boards in a row. I do remember your first board's issues and it was very strange too. I have seen a few guys that also got UD3P's that could not do 500 FSB+ no matter what, and they RMA'd and the replacements did it without raising a sweat. I think perhaps there is a lot of variation in the FSB capabilities of the P45 chipsets, A2 and A3, some are great, some are decent, and some are terrible. If I were you I'd try and sell the M2F and get something back for it, I can understand why you're not happy after paying the premium for this board.
Really strange thing but try this. Whenever I run a 400 FSB and set the FSB strap to 400 then run my memory @ 1200...The PC boots into windows and my memory runs at 1333. I have no idea why this is. It is perfectly stable but the benchamarks are no better than than 1200 or 1066 for that matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gendo
Anyone else get this bug? It happens consistently on every BIOS I have used. I have DDR2 12000 PArtior Vipers 4x1GB.
--Rocks
@cryptik, looks like my mushkin redline pc8000 2x1 4-5-4-11 kit is bad as well. i cant get either board to boot with these sticks.both boards light up but wont even get into bios.so i guess more bad luck
That's the 3:5 divider bug I'm talking about. You set 2:3 divider in bios, and in windows it looks like the 3:5 divider. It's a P35/P45 chipset bug.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocks
Oh damn. Have you tried the sticks individually?Quote:
Originally Posted by radaja
Posted days ago, so was bug it has.Quote:
Originally Posted by xaver
Guys...help me please with my problem described above.
I'm not sure what it can be exactly, as my board is totally stable with a NB temp of 53*C, and my power has been up to 38 - 42*C on a hot day and it was still stable, and my southbridge has hit 51 - 52*C and it was still stable.
You are going to have to spot cool the mosfet sinks and retest, then spot cool the NB and retest, then spot cool the SB and retest. You have to figure out where the instability is coming from. When you do it bring each component (mosfets, NB, SB) down to the temp it used to be at when you were aircooling.
CryptiK
Thank you, bro! I`ll find out it soon.
To make it sure I'm ganna work on this oc ram issues next week ;) (as possible)
6 pairs of PC8500/9200 to compare with my old 680i an a P965 based Commando arrivin' soon...(Dominator/Geil/TeamXtream...& what I gat)
My crucials (gmh) don't even need more than 2,2v to boot @640 and they're pretty easier to increase than my OCZ Reaper & Flex...ahh sweet old times ^^
Do you think that better Bios would give us what we need mate ???
yea ive tried each stick seperatly. no go
Call them and demand a replacement.Quote:
Originally Posted by radaja
I did it with my Max X38 and Asus paid for overnight shipping.
I sent photos of my bowed board and they were very quick to help me.
The board has alot of potential, once / if the bios matures I think it will be a solid performer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eeky NoX
Problem is most of the "special" bios features do not work and untill the Bios Engineers get them working we will never know the boards full capabilities.
That's no good, looks like they're dead. RMA time :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by radaja
You should definitely demand a replacement board, that is just not good enough. Send them the pics and say you want a replacement asap. I had to RMA my P5Q-D and the retailer I purchased it from said their distributor had repaired it and were going to send it back to me. I said that was not good enough, and that I wanted a new board and that they must pretest it and guarantee it could do what it was advertised to do before they sent it to me. They complied without argument.
grnfinger&cryptik what phone# are u guys using to get a hold of someone at asus that can help in these situations.?
I didnt contact asus directly, I contacted the retailer I bought the board from and told them I wanted a new board and that they had to pretest it. Is there the number/contact email on your countries Asus page?
These are the North American numbers and web site to trac your status which is a useless site.Quote:
Originally Posted by radaja
http://livesupport.asus.com
510-739-3777 or 812-282-2787
grnfinger,thanks for all your help
Some 3D Benches at 24/7 settings with my old 8800GT:
Aquamark:
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...GHz1068MHz.jpg
3D Mark 03:
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...GHz1068MHz.jpg
3D Mark 05:
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...GHz1068MHz.jpg
3D Mark 06:
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...GHz1068MHz.jpg
Cryptik,
I am trying desperatley to increase my RAM speed alongside my CPU speed. So far the highest speed I can get stable @ 4ghz is 942. I cannot run my RAM at 1255 no matter what I try. I can run it @ 1200 with a lower CPU speed but @ 4ghz I cannot get much bandwidth on my RAM. Which voltages do you suggest I play with the try to get stable? I've tried NB but to no avail. I'm thinking where I am at is most likely the best I can get. It is definitely solid but I want more!!
Thanks,
--Rocks
These are at idle:
Temperatures
Motherboard 34 °C (93 °F)
CPU 21 °C (70 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 36 °C (97 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 38 °C (100 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #3 34 °C (93 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #4 31 °C (88 °F)
North Bridge 42 °C (108 °F)
South Bridge 41 °C (106 °F)
PWM 33 °C (91 °F)
GPU 37 °C (99 °F)
GPU Memory 29 °C (84 °F)
GPU Ambient 30 °C (86 °F)
GPU VRM 31 °C (88 °F)
Cooling Fans
CPU 1480 RPM
GPU 990 RPM (62%)
Voltage Values
CPU Core 1.352 V
+3.3 V 3.264 V
+5 V 4.944 V
+12 V 11.928 V
+5 V Standby 5.139 V
CPU VTT 1.422 V
CPU PLL 1.574 V
North Bridge +1.1 V 1.422 V
South Bridge +1.1 V 1.177 V
South Bridge +1.5 V 1.501 V
DIMM 2.289 V
DIMM VTT 1.144 V
GPU Vcc 3.218 V
The thing is with 4GB of ram, getting over 1200 stable will be pretty difficult. I assume you are using 473 FSB x 8.5 = 4020.5 MHz?
If so, try the 5:6 divider, putting the ram speed at 1135 MHz.
Set:
Primary Ram Timings = 5-5-5-15-3-40-6-3 (leave the rest on auto)
Common Performance Level (PL) = 8
Static read Control = enabled
Dram Read Training = enabled
Ai Clock Twister = moderate
NB voltage = 1.45v
vdimm = 2.2v
Can you get that to run stable? What kind of bandwidth do you get compared to where you are at now?
Awesome man, bandwidth is much better. I assume that I should enable the OC charger as well? How about the pull-ins? Keep them disabled? I running stress tests right now...seems stable.
My FSB is 471 so Mem is @ 1130. I will post the results in a sec I will edit this post.
Edit:
Original bandwidth:
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7...riginaldn9.png
New bandwidth:
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9...ememnewpv2.png
I think its better, further tweaks could improve the write maybe?
--Rocks
That's much better. I'm not sure if you'll need OC Charger enabled, from what I can tell it may increase drive strength on the ram, and if you enable it you may be able to drop a bit off your vdimm. I run it disabled unless I'm clocking ram over 1200 MHz, in fact the ram will not go above 1210 MHz without it enabled. You may be able to run 2.0 - 2.1v vdimm since you're at 1130 MHz, we can try it first with mem OC charger disabled and see if your stable.
Ok now set:
Ai Clock Twister = 'Stronger', this will give you a drop in the latency and a small boost in bandwidth, if you can't stabilize it, try running it on 'strong'.
Sadly the Pull-ins do nothing as they do not work, so just leave them disabled.
Mem OC Charger disabled
If this is stable, try dropping your vdimm to 2.1v and re-test it.
PC stuck on DRAM without OC charger enabled. If I enable OC charged still @ 2.2v DIMM, this is my bandwidth and just a fast test of prime 95 gave an error after 6 minutes.
This is with twister on stronger and DIMMv @ 2.2v.
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/2...trongerlr5.png
I tried to run the twister on strong and stronger @ both 2.1 and 2.2 volts and neither would post without OC charger enabled.
--Rocks
Ok looks like your ram needs it then. Since you're getting an error and you're already at 1.45 vNB, try setting AI Clock Twister on 'strong' and see if your stable. If not, drop to 'moderate' and see if that helps.
Strange I dropped the DIMMv to 2.1 and it seems prime 95 stable. Intelburntest bluescreened. You know, I am not so sure how far I should put my trust in these programs. I have yet to get a blue screen or a freeze with my overclocks on this board without running these stress testers.
I only get blue screens when I run these tests....go figure.
I'll up it to 2.2 v again and test it on strong I guess.
Since you bluescreened in linpack, might need to bump up your vcore, try 1.38v.
What are your four GTL Ref's set to?
Ok I've raised the CPU core to 1.38, haven't tested it yet. My GTLs are:
GTL0 = +20mv
GTL1 = +40mv
GTL2 = +20mv
GTL3 = +40mv
NBGTL + +30mv
The 1.38 Vcore stablized it. My temps were through the roof though high 80s. Got a water cooler on the way, should be here tomorrow. My idle temps are solid as well as prime 95 temps. Prime 95 temps are mid 60s. Idle temps are mid 30 to low 40s. Thats is with a Tjunction of 100C. The water cooler I got is an all in one job. I'll link it up, but its in Japense so you might not be able to read it. It is the newer version of the EVERCOOL EC-WC-202.
It is the http://www.taoenter.co.jp/product/suireikit/WC-212.html
I am hoping it will cool better than my Silent square. The fact that it is water should help but I am a bit worried...
--Rocks
Try it as is, just increase vcore to 1.38v and run linpack 6 passes stress level 1.
If thats better, then try GTL Tweaking.
Set your GTL's to:
GTL 0 +10mv
GTL 1 -35mv
GTL 2 +10mv
GTL 3 -35mv
Does that make it better or worse?
Stable 6 times no change in temps. I have loadline enabled so my vcore will hit 1.39 during load. temps hit the 90s with these settings. Hopefully the water cooler will bring them down.
Good to hear that stabilized it. I used to have a Silent square and even lapped my e6300 was pushing 76*C in prime. even a TRUE would bring them down 10 - 20*C, you should be mid to high 70's with that voltage. Hope the watercooling helps, I can't read japanese but that appears to be a small kit, have you read any reviews on it? Petra's Tech Shop is a great place for all your watercooling needs if you want to try and get something more hardcore.
Here is my 3D mark 2006 score with these settings. I will increase the fan speed and see if it helps...
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/797/3dmarkvd2.jpg
After 20h searching for 9*500 stabillity..i want to share my result with u guys..:)
Lowest Vcore for Realtime 32M (no tweaks)
http://www.outofspecs.gr/forum/attac...8&d=1228079109
A litle bit vcore and we have wprime,vantage,pcmark etc..
http://www.outofspecs.gr/forum/attac...7&d=1228079021
Still searching for stability..i want to keep the voltage low..because a 0.04v up gives me +5 C under prime.
I tried several settings..
I tried the CPU Clock skew range from normal to 800ps..(it acts like not working)..
I tried GTL from .60-.67 ..nothing..and combitation of them (0.61 - 0.63 etc)..
My chipset temps are 47 idle (with water and new swifteck block) load under small ffts goes 52 and under blend goes at 58-60 with 1.33 vnb.I ensured the good contact twice.(crappy temps).
I think that my M2F get unstable because of high temps at chipset.
Rams@1000 2*1GB D9GMH for testing..l8r i will test with GSKill PI 4GB.
BIOS 1307
I want you opinion guyz..:(
Prime 95 is mid to high 60s which is about the same I guess but when I use IBT, man it shoots up to high 80s low 90s. That program really puts out the heat.Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
@ GeorgeVasil - 4500 @ 1.288 is fantastic, nice chip you have there.
They are high chipset temps, especially for water. Have you placed washers behind the NB mounting screws? I just did that and the extra mounting pressure helped reduce the temps a few degrees. The chipset cooling design of these boards really leaves a lot to be desired.
When you use CPU clock skew, did you also use NB clock skew in conjunction with it? I found setting them the same (eg 300ps on both the cpu & NB) can improve stability in Orthos, but not in Linpack.
@ Rocks - yes linpack gets the cpu the hottest, but remember normal usage load temps wont ever approach those temps.
Yeah I agree, so what is the point in having it max out temps like that? It could give invalid BSODs.Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
If my water cooler can reduce my temps by at least 10c I will be happy.
No i Haven't placed any Washers..!I need a foto if you have.Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
Maybe the Probe reads wrong .. i wll measure it with a real sensor when i got one..:p:
I will try to make a custom bottom plate for my block, I will make smth more rutty.
I will try the NB clock Skew...thanks for the advise.
ASUS should (no should ---> MUST) make a new bios in order to make all that settings work Properly.
Still Trying.. to get best Vcore for Prime..
Attachment 89983
Waoh! That's a great chip mate ;)
So Cryptik if ya wana see some 3D Benchs, you should look at what I've done last night :
http://soj.mesdiscussions.net/soj/Ca...ujet_121_1.htm
I clam 3 walls yesterday, all on air : such a satisfaction my friends ya know ?
Sorry all cus' my thread is only in french, but any comment ??
71 470 marks 2003
29 258 marks 2005
19 640 marks 2006
Really nice results mate :up:
Thanks M8..:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Eeky NoX
Great Results with CF.
Can you post your M2F setings used for 3d benching?
:up:
Need some help trying to get 4.1 I keep falling prime small fft's on worker thread 3
Hers my settings........... any help would be Aprecheated
P.S pulled out 2 stick running only 4 gigs
Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 456
CPU Clock Skew: auto
NB Clock Skew: auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1095MHz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Advance 250ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Advance 250ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Advance 250ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Advance 250ps
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information:
CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: Auto
Row Refresh Recycle Time: 55 DRAM Clocks
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read to Precharge Time: Auto
2nd Information:
Read to Write Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
Write to Read Delay (D): Auto
Read to Read Delay (S): Auto
Read to Read Delay (D): Auto
Write to Write Delay (S): Auto
Write to Write Delay (D): Auto
3rd Information:
Write to PRE Delay: Auto
Read to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
DRAM Read Training: disabled
MEM. OC Charger: enabled
Ai Clock Twister: stronger
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance Level: 8
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled
PCIE Frequency: 101
CPU Voltage: 1.3875
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.55
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.35175
DRAM Voltage: 2.15775
North Bridge Voltage: 1.35150
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10
CPU GTL Reference (0): +20
CPU GTL Reference (1):-+20
CPU GTL Reference (2): +20
CPU GTL Reference (3):-+20mv
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto
CPU Configuration:
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
@Nunzi
1st) Leave DRAM CLK Skew @ Auto
2nd)
CPU GTL Reference (0):+45mv
CPU GTL Reference (1):-45mv
CPU GTL Reference (2): +45mv
CPU GTL Reference (3):-45mv
3rd)Ai Clock Twister: Auto
Try Georges settings, also try a range of GTL Ref settings. Here's 3 sets you could try:
CPU GTL Reference (0): +30mv
CPU GTL Reference (1): -10mv
CPU GTL Reference (2): +30mv
CPU GTL Reference (3): -10mv
CPU GTL Reference (0): +40mv
CPU GTL Reference (1): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (2): +40mv
CPU GTL Reference (3): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (0): +50mv
CPU GTL Reference (1): +10mv
CPU GTL Reference (2): +50mv
CPU GTL Reference (3): +10mv
Thanks for the info guys.......going to try settings now
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Originally Posted by humeyboy
OK this fix the infinite fake boot bug, and finally i can enter in the BIOS, but now i've a huge trouble, i can't enter in windows ... also i can't install a new fresh copy of the OS ... cause every time that it loads (and finish) the files from the CD i get a reboot so the installing process isn't finished ... any tip?
having trouble getting my system stable under Prime 95 it usually failed around the 1 hour mark however it is stable under linpack 10 pass.
any advice welcome
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...2262/q9650.jpgPHP Code:
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 445
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
North Bridge Clock Skew : Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1116MHz
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 8
Read to Precharge Time : 5
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : MODERATE
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [10]
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Enabled
PCIE Frequency : 101
CPU Voltage : 1.29875
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
FSBT : 1.27225
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
North Bridge Voltage : 1.23250
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.10
CPU GTL Reference 0 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 1 : -40mv
CPU GTL Reference 2 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 3 : -40mv
North Bridge GTL Reference : +30mv
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference : Auto
Load Line Calibration : Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
still droping the 3rd worker thread eny other settings I can try?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nunzi
Thanks
Nothing special, but crasy voltages for aircooling :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by GeorgeVasil
I just remebered that those settings were for 4,8 :rofl: Now I trying to go down cus' the heat grows over 85° (sorry for °)
Still startin' up the OS @4,5 with all voltage on auto and 1,32v for the core...but I've got to dig for now (this mobo's teachin me ya know ? :up: )
This is the best i can do with the voltages...
CryptiK i tryied both CPU&Clock Skews,they really affect stabillity.
http://www.outofspecs.gr/forum/attac...1&d=1228164375
1,336 VCore
1,16 VTT
0.64x GTL (-30mv)
These are some pretty high numbers. Mine tops @ 47'C with 1.51vNB, cooled by NBMAX.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeorgeVasil
Did u took apart the whole heatsink assembly when installing your wb or just the heatsink on the NB?
Only the heatsink on the NB..:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeBar
I reseated the whole assembly, my NB at idle is a cool 37c with ambiant air at 20c under load 44-45c max with 1.39vNBQuote:
Originally Posted by GeorgeVasil
I use a MCW30 for the NB
I would suggest removing the whole assembly and reapplying some proper thermalpaste but i know it's a pain in the @ss to do this.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeorgeVasil
However something is definitely wrong there with your temps mate...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Thanks for the answers guys!Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeBar
I think that my MCW-NBMAX only mounts proper on the whole assembly.
If i remove the whole assembly i'll need after market coolers for PWR and SB..:(:(
I will try for some whasers and a new custom plate for the block first.
PS.MR JoeBar γιατί δεν τα γράφεις ελληνικά ρε συ φίλε??:ROTF::ROTF:
No they mean for you to keep the heatpipe assembly just pull it off, clean off the crap Asus TIM, reapply some good TIM, and remount the heatpipe assembly along with your waterblock.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeorgeVasil
Ahh ok My bad..:DQuote:
Originally Posted by SiGfever
I have done this Twice Guys..I have Applied Ceramique..but same Sh@t..:p:
Guys my first tests with this great mobo, the Q9650 and the EVGA 8800 ULTRA vmoded
My Special Thanks to my mates Cryptik and Leeghoofd for all the help !!!
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/1...1836252qv3.jpg
Good job. Try 500x8. P45 allows and can handle such clock stable with quads.
Thanks mate :up: will try, just figuring out what VTT / VCORE / NB for that...Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterFlex
Cheers
Sergio
Hola amigo, thanks for sharing, nice score. The ultra is punching well above it's weight. Good to see you in here finally :DQuote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
Just did 3 SPI32M runs with my M2F and Cellshock PC-8000 GKX sticks. This board has strange behaviour, it is most stable on the 5:6 divider. The times are bad as I had to run under 4GHz, PL8 (PL9 on first bench), Ai Clock Twister on moderate, and have static read and dram read training disabled. The GKX did ok, max SPI32M stable on 2.20v was 630 MHz.
510 FSB, 612 MHz, PL 9
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...PL922vdimm.jpg
517 FSB, 620 MHz, PL 8
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...PL822vdimm.jpg
525 FSB, 630 MHz, PL 8
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...PL822vdimm.jpg
LOL yeah after i almost get crazy and you :rofl: and poor leeghoofd alsoQuote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
Thanks mates !! :up:
Sergio
BTW Nice Scores on your mem Cryp, guess i will buy 2x1 to test, impossible on 2x2...i only i had the Gskills PC29600 :rolleyes: