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01-10-2008, 01:05 AM
binormalkilla

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Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs

I understand the regular issues with 4GB+ RAM in Server 2003 and XP x64, but what is the fix to enable Hibernate with exactly 4GB RAM used in XP x64 or Server 2003 x86?

Testing on this mobo, OCZ 2x 2Gb RAM (rated: 5-4-4-15 @ DDR800) oC'd to DDR1000 @ 5-5-5-15 @ 2.22v in 1:1 with same 4GHz @ 500x8 as in sig. Also added the RAM in sig along side with good results of performance for a total of 6GBs in dual channel. In 6GB config, Hibernate was disabled in all settings of remapping and such.

Can anybody using (as seen by Windows) 4GB of RAM and able to get the Hibernate Tab in power options or device manager shut down menu? If I enable "Memory Remap" and reboot I get Hibernate but now only 3.37GB as used by XP x64. If I now add the "boot" file fix (MAXMEM=4096) and leave memory remap enabled, I still have use of Hibernate but now only get use of 3.25GB RAM in XP x64. if I now leave the MAXMEM=4096 boot add on and disable memory remap I again still get Hibernate but back to 3.37GB RAM as used by XP x64, yet now the rambench scores are a little better then as before.

I also noticed that ram scores in Everest were worse if kleft to 4GB with scores dropped by as much 164MB/s read & 9MB/s write.

Just wanted to get soem user feedback since I see a lot of you running 4GBs RAM on this mobo.

Thankx!

Well Idon't use the hibernate option, but as soon as HL2 finished installing I'll test it on Vista x64.......
BTW, are you referring to boot.ini adjustments for 4Gb RAM? This shouldn't be needed.......only the memory remap in the BIOS, and 4096 Mb should be detected in a x64 environment......
Have you checked with otehr applications other than right clicking on my comp\properties?
01-10-2008, 06:45 AM
youraa

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Originally Posted by binormalkilla

Higher NB temps can lead to memory/FSB instability.....so best to keep it cool for higher FSBs.

About PC Probe, what OS are you running? I would uninstall AI tweaker, or whatever it's called....I've yet to find a version that works yet :p
The only temp monitoring app I use is Everest Ultimate, and it reports everything accurately for me in Vista x64. I just reinstalled VIsta, so I haven't got to Everest yet.....but if you want the build I can get it for ya.

thx :) already got it :)
01-10-2008, 08:53 AM
cuke2u

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Originally Posted by binormalkilla

Well you DEFINITELY need to install it then. It has the drivers for the HDDs that allow AHCI mode, which enables certain performance and stability functions such as network command queuing, etc. Here are some FAQs on Inte's site:
http://www.intel.com/support/chipset.../CS-020785.htm
and here is the DL page:
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Prod...ProductID=2101

Hi, the matrix drivers are not always needed, I'm not runnng them:

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...e2u/HDTach.jpg

Chris
01-10-2008, 10:01 AM
binormalkilla

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Originally Posted by cuke2u

Hi, the matrix drivers are not always needed, I'm not runnng them:

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...e2u/HDTach.jpg

Chris

Well they're not needed, but an Intel support agent told me that he recommends installing them, even without RAID......according to the FAQ it is required to run AHCI to it's full potential.
01-10-2008, 11:12 AM
Hockster

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Originally Posted by binormalkilla

Hey does anyone have a WD caviar with 16Mb of cache? Here is my HD tach run in Vista x64 for two of my 500 Gb drives......one has the OS and the other has my page file.

I have my HDDs configured as AHCI.......and I just reinstalled Vista.....last time I ran it in VIsta I got a higher score on both drives with the Matrix manager software installed.
Anyone have it installed?

Here's my HD Tach on the same drive. Win XP, configured as IDE mode.
01-10-2008, 11:24 AM
nordien

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Got my new Team Xtreem PC6400 3-3-3-8 kit today. A lot faster then the Kingston PC8500 kit.

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9 * 400 = 3.6 ghz
1.46 vcore
1.55 nb
Auto cpu pll
2.35 vdimm

:up:
01-10-2008, 11:24 AM
Zucker2k

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Originally Posted by kup

I'm a bit confused too. What are you doing about your vDroop now?

VDroop isn't always a bad thing. In fact, it is purposely there for a reason. In any case, with Loadline Calibration enabled, I get a vdroop of .008v at idle, with it disabled, I get a vdroop of .016 - a difference of only .008. Pictures with Loadline calibration disabled, idle and load:
01-10-2008, 11:27 AM
binormalkilla

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Originally Posted by Hockster

Here's my HD Tach on the same drive. Win XP, configured as IDE mode.

I wonder if HD Tach is losing performance due to the fact that I have to run it in compatibility mode in Vista.....I'm going to try to install XP on my external drive later today......hopefully I'll check that out.
01-10-2008, 11:42 AM
Zucker2k

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Server 2008 RC1 x64. These burst speeds are incredulous. I'm running 2x160GB WDs (16MB cache) in Raid0.
01-10-2008, 11:55 AM
cuke2u

Quote:

Originally Posted by binormalkilla

Well they're not needed, but an Intel support agent told me that he recommends installing them, even without RAID......according to the FAQ it is required to run AHCI to it's full potential.

Hi, isn't AHCI is fully supported by vista anyway?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance...ller_Interface
Chris
01-10-2008, 12:00 PM
.OCX

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Originally Posted by binormalkilla

This is due to the fact that your RAM's SPD data is programmed for DDR2-1066 for whatever timings, and I can guess that this requires more than 1.8V to POST......1.8V is the default voltage for DDR2. I encountered the same issue.
YOu can do two things to avoid this DETDRAM issue:
1) DOwnload this app and reprogram your SPD data to default to DDR2-800 or 667 5-5-5-15 and change the timings/frequencies manually in the BIOS after POSTing and setting the proper voltage
2) Buy a stick of value RAM at a local place for $25 or so and put this stick in when you flash a new BIOS or have to clear the CMOS.....POST with this RAM, then change the voltage, then save and reboot, POST, then enter the BIOS and hard shutdown, then install your high performance RAM.
I am currently going with #2 for my RAM until I load XP to reprogram the SPD data. (driver isn't signed, so it doesn't work with Vista x64)

I'll try #2 and go from there, I picked up a stick of Super Talent 800 that will hopefully help.

The only problem is even after getting the right vdimms set before in 0505, I would restart the PC and have the same symptoms of Non-POST until 3 hour CMOS Clear. We'll see tonight.
01-10-2008, 12:20 PM
Leeghoofd

MMM my baord just doesn't want to shutdown anymore,it always restarts,... like my P5W did in the old days when certain USB slots were used...

Any suggestions on that ? I had it with 0505, 0701 and still with 0907 bios... board runs fine at 400FSB, no issues regarding stability just the damn shutdown doesn't work...
01-10-2008, 12:26 PM
Nuckin_Futs

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Originally Posted by binormalkilla

Well Idon't use the hibernate option, but as soon as HL2 finished installing I'll test it on Vista x64.......
Have you checked with otehr applications other than right clicking on my comp\properties?

Yes, the Windows boot.ini file, the switch you can check in msconfig. and yes, I checked with several apps. Everest and most other up to date utilities read as 3456MB. I understand about it not needing the switch. As I said it does see the 4GB if remap is disabled and maxmem swtch unchecked. However, the main reason for post is stricktly for use of Hibernate. the extra 600+ ram is not woth it to me if I can enter S3 plus the loss of read/write times.

So right now, I'm at Memory remap Enabled and MAXMEM switch on to 4096 and it se and uses 3456MB (3.37GB). I get S4 (suspent to hard drive, Hibernate) with emap on or off now. only if DFF, system only gets 3.25GB RAM then.

Intel RAID Ready, f6 Install
This exactly what I've been posting several times before for those interested.

AHCI is built in RAID functions , so enabling RAID and using as single or multiple drive in a NON Raid is the same as selecting AHCI in BIOS. Only with AHCI only, you cannot migrate to RAID (rebooting and changing to RAID is no good since the RAID driver is not there) and must reinstall (or fix as I posted way back) to get the iostar 82801 driver installe. and then use Matrix Storage Manager.

Tha Intel Matrix Storage Manager utility does offer some smart drive features and does tend to boost performance, but you do not have to install it if you at least installed via the 66 floppy install with RAID enabled. You will still have the RAID BIOS set up option in BOOT BIOS and get AHCI mode in single, NON RAID drive config.
01-10-2008, 12:42 PM
ShawnTRD

Anyone with a TRUE using the little fan that came with this MB?
01-10-2008, 12:52 PM
kup

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Originally Posted by ShawnTRD

Anyone with a TRUE using the little fan that came with this MB?

It doesn't fit if you have 2 fans on the TRUE, or the fan pulling through the TRUE over the back, not enough room. :(
01-10-2008, 03:39 PM
Grnfinger

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Originally Posted by .OCX

-Bios 0505
-DET RAM after restarts- Won't POST regardless of Memory
-Had to Clear CMOS for 3+ hours to boot
-Can only boot with 1 DIMM upon Clear
-Upon Bios entry again, I set vdimm 2.20~2.32
-Boots into Windows @1066 5-5-5-15
-Orthos and Pi Stable

Reboot into DETRAM. Have to clear CMOS for 3 hours again. So I got it back stable again, and flashed to 0907. Reboot to DET RAM...currently clearing CMOS, regardless of memory or "B Slot" trick, I have tried everything. New PSU, 4-pin vs. 8pin 12vEATX, you name it. My whole problem is Non-Overclock with Proper voltages for vdimm, and the same DET RAM restart.

So I called and setup an RMA, but I honestly don't think I can go that long without my PC. It is my life and my life has forsaken me. I deal with the USB Driver BSODs, I deal with the 4th times a charm restart loop, I deal with the fun of the initial out-of-box setup. I can't deal with 2+ weeks wait.

Are the new Revisions currently being carried on newegg? Will I lose my Raid array even though I'm within the same motherboard? I get this up and running and I'll never restart it again!

Edit: Sorry to hijack the thread, I'm just lost and in the middle of a pa120.3 + stacker 810 mod and now my board which is still in old case/system is acting up. :(

Post your bios settings please, I think I can help you with your DET RAM hang
01-10-2008, 03:48 PM
ShawnTRD

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Originally Posted by kup

It doesn't fit if you have 2 fans on the TRUE, or the fan pulling through the TRUE over the back, not enough room. :(

I think it should fit. I only have the one fan
01-10-2008, 04:09 PM
kup

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Originally Posted by ShawnTRD

I think it should fit. I only have the one fan

I have mine already setup like it, it doesn't fit.
01-10-2008, 04:38 PM
Leeghoofd

Anyone else here experiencing that the board always reboots after selecting a shutdown in Windows... in fact the baord shuts down for about 3-4 secs then lits up again and posts ... only way to power it off is to pull the plug...

Tried different biosses, new install of windows , new drivers,...

Is the board screwed ?
01-10-2008, 05:26 PM
binormalkilla

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuke2u

Hi, isn't AHCI is fully supported by vista anyway?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance...ller_Interface
Chris

Well I'm not sure.......it says on Inte's site that the driver is required........which is included in the Matrix Storage Manager.

BTW that's some INSANE bandwidth Zucker2K......wow over 3K MB/s.............:shocked:
01-10-2008, 06:46 PM
Zucker2k

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Originally Posted by binormalkilla

Well I'm not sure.......it says on Inte's site that the driver is required........which is included in the Matrix Storage Manager.

BTW that's some INSANE bandwidth Zucker2K......wow over 3K MB/s.............:shocked:

Thanks. 4K+?... DONE!
01-10-2008, 07:30 PM
binormalkilla

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Originally Posted by Zucker2k

Thanks. 4K+?... DONE!

Wow....what kind of HDDs are those? Raptors? SCSI?
01-10-2008, 07:49 PM
quadnad

I hate to be a douchebag, but I just don't have the time to search through 200 pages (apart from the obligatory quick skim):
Does anyone know if there are problems with 2x1 or 4x1 sets of Ballistix when running the Asus Maximus Formula (standard)?
01-10-2008, 09:13 PM
.OCX

Quote:

Originally Posted by binormalkilla

This is due to the fact that your RAM's SPD data is programmed for DDR2-1066 for whatever timings, and I can guess that this requires more than 1.8V to POST......1.8V is the default voltage for DDR2. I encountered the same issue.
YOu can do two things to avoid this DETDRAM issue:
1) DOwnload this app and reprogram your SPD data to default to DDR2-800 or 667 5-5-5-15 and change the timings/frequencies manually in the BIOS after POSTing and setting the proper voltage
2) Buy a stick of value RAM at a local place for $25 or so and put this stick in when you flash a new BIOS or have to clear the CMOS.....POST with this RAM, then change the voltage, then save and reboot, POST, then enter the BIOS and hard shutdown, then install your high performance RAM.
I am currently going with #2 for my RAM until I load XP to reprogram the SPD data. (driver isn't signed, so it doesn't work with Vista x64)

Thanks for your help, I'm back up and running and was able to use just 1 x 1GB GSkill to set the Bios properly for vdimm using 800mhz divider. Upon several restarts with 1 DIMM, everything seemed all systems nominal. Currently running Dual channel at 3.2 w/ 1066.

Thanks again :up: . I'll keep you posted as things change....and there is no way in HELL I will restart this again!
01-10-2008, 09:26 PM
binormalkilla

Quote:

Originally Posted by quadnad

I hate to be a douchebag, but I just don't have the time to search through 200 pages (apart from the obligatory quick skim):
Does anyone know if there are problems with 2x1 or 4x1 sets of Ballistix when running the Asus Maximus Formula (standard)?

No problems at all with 4x1Gb, other than a few unstable dividers, but if you get your board installed we can help you out with that....I know all the unstable settings for 4x1Gb :up:

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Originally Posted by .OCX

Thanks for your help, I'm back up and running and was able to use just 1 x 1GB GSkill to set the Bios properly for vdimm using 800mhz divider. Upon several restarts with 1 DIMM, everything seemed all systems nominal. Currently running Dual channel at 3.2 w/ 1066.

Thanks again :up: . I'll keep you posted as things change....and there is no way in HELL I will restart this again!

Hey NP man, glad to hear you got it sorted out....now push it!

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