Nvidia confirms the GTX 580

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11-01-2010, 01:47 PM
tajoh111

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Originally Posted by Vardant

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2...1776397102.jpg

Kind of unimpressive performance wise. However hopefully the lower power consumption is true and these overclock 10% more than the original.

Why is the vantage performance the most impressive gain? Thats kind unusual since it is close to a 40% gain over the gtx 480 and we are not close to seeing that in games. Hopefully this means drivers can ring out another 10%. Because at those figures, it will be losing to a 5970 most of the time(I don't expect cayman to top the 5970 either).
11-01-2010, 01:48 PM
cowie

nice righted ship:)

anyways put me down for two,but i'm not selling my 480's thuo :D
11-01-2010, 01:49 PM
highoctane

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Originally Posted by [XC] hipno650

well you waited for the right time, end of November will be a great time to buy with the GTX 580 on the market and AMD's full Cayman line up.

I think so, lots of good stuff on the horizon and some tough choices.
11-01-2010, 01:54 PM
Leopold Butters

hmmm, I wonder if I should hold onto my 5970 and wait for the 6xx series...unless they go straight to 7 to catch up the numbering with AMD. Does anyone here use 2 480s with Nvidia surround?
11-01-2010, 01:54 PM
Manicdan

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Originally Posted by tajoh111

Why is the vantage performance the most impressive gain? Thats kind unusual since it is close to a 40% gain over the gtx 480 and we are not close to seeing that in games. Hopefully this means drivers can ring out another 10%. Because at those figures, it will be losing to a 5970 most of the time(I don't expect cayman to top the 5970 either).

there was a post about texture units doubling and so maybe its arch was slightly reworked? or it could be the memory was starved and this one has much faster ram in it now, but isnt noticeable in most titles.
11-01-2010, 02:07 PM
tajoh111

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Originally Posted by Leopold Butters

hmmm, I wonder if I should hold onto my 5970 and wait for the 6xx series...unless they go straight to 7 to catch up the numbering with AMD. Does anyone here use 2 480s with Nvidia surround?

Depends on what you want. But I recommending holding off entirely this round because a 5970 should be good for pretty much anything. Unless you can see your 5970 for 500 dollars which might be difficult at this point, I would hold off.

If you have issues with crossfire and cayman and 580 match performance and you can sell your card for 400 still, then it might be worth a go.
11-01-2010, 02:49 PM
cegras

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Originally Posted by Carfax

Hehe yeah! But I have to admit, I'm pissed off that Nvidia couldn't deliver the REAL Fermi at launch. :mad:

If Nvidia would have released the 480 with these specs, then Fermi would have practically dominated Cypress and about pulled even with Hemlock.

So never again will I be an early adopter. Instead I will wait for the inevitable respin..

Then you would've spent an additional 6 months extolling the virtues of PhysX to us, only to buy a GTX580 that will probably slot in the *exact same* performance tier relative to Cayman and Antilles?

Hmmm.
11-01-2010, 02:53 PM
k|ngp|n

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Originally Posted by Hey Zeus

Mark me down for two please. I'll be returning my 6870's to Newegg

Put me down for four NVIDIA!!!
11-01-2010, 03:05 PM
k|ngp|n

Edit.. make that 5 as I'll surely nuke one(or two) benching.
11-01-2010, 03:15 PM
Flying duck

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Originally Posted by Hey Zeus

Mark me down for two please. I'll be returning my 6870's to Newegg

:rolleyes:
11-01-2010, 03:35 PM
bro20000

Am waiting for cayman just to compare! Have gotta sell my 480 1st thou!
11-01-2010, 03:39 PM
zalbard

Haha, awesome thread tags again! :ROTF:

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Originally Posted by k|ngp|n

Put me down for four NVIDIA!!!

What, you do not have a special k|ngp|n sample yet? ;)

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Originally Posted by bro20000

Am waiting for cayman just to compare!

Same! :D
11-01-2010, 04:31 PM
Enoc

Zalbard you don't have to wait...

think about cayman XT as a better 6850 CFX...:wasntme:

the 580 is going to get a big surprise...taking a knife to a guns fight... :rolleyes:

AMD did not come out to play...;)
11-01-2010, 07:09 PM
Sn0wm@n

yep .. your right .. amd didnt come out to play ;)
11-01-2010, 07:15 PM
Computurd

jesus i cant wait...this is why i passed on the 480.. i knew this would be coming :)
11-01-2010, 07:22 PM
Dimitriman

GTX 580: The way it's meant to be Fermi'd?
11-01-2010, 07:27 PM
Sn0wm@n

the way its meant to be rebranded
11-01-2010, 07:37 PM
spursindonesia

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Originally Posted by Sn0wm@n

yep .. your right .. amd didnt come out to play ;)

Correct, they will come out to make a bussiness. :yepp:

AMD dominates the discrete graphics market

:clap:

GTX 580 will be a wonderful card, atleast compared to previous gen cards.
11-01-2010, 07:53 PM
highoctane

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Originally Posted by spursindonesia

Correct, they will come out to make a bussiness. :yepp:

AMD dominates the discrete graphics market

:clap:

GTX 580 will be a wonderful card, atleast compared to previous gen cards.

Kinda depends on if you're talking desktop or mobile, AMD didn't dominate desktop, overall is close enough to say it doesn't matter.

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4...lgfxmktq32.png

http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/2...tegfxmktq3.png

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11-01-2010, 08:51 PM
tajoh111

Hopefully the gtx 580 won't crap the bed this time because of the extra TMU when it comes to high resolution, high AA settings because it should of had the advantage last go simply because of the extra memory, but as we saw that was not the case.
11-01-2010, 09:45 PM
spursindonesia

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Originally Posted by highoctane

Kinda depends on if you're talking desktop or mobile, AMD didn't dominate desktop, overall is close enough to say it doesn't matter.

Yep i guess you're right. I wonder what kinda result AMD would have if they were not so supply constrained during their initial reign as the only DX 11 cards provider in the market.

But we're going off topic here, gotta have more performance leak goodies. :D
11-01-2010, 10:09 PM
highoctane

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Originally Posted by spursindonesia

I wonder what kinda result AMD would have if they were not so supply constrained during their initial reign as the only DX 11 cards provider in the market.

Who knows, just imagine if both AMD and Nvidia actually launched and tried to push volume 40nm parts at the same time.

You have to wonder what kind of result Nvidia would have if they were not so dx11 product constrained for such a long period of time, afterall it delayed the entire lineup. When you consider marketshare isn't decided by highend product but more or less products under $200 and how long it took Nvida to market with their complete dx11 lineup for mainstream they're doing surprisingly well.
11-01-2010, 11:09 PM
spursindonesia

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Originally Posted by highoctane

Who knows, just imagine if both AMD and Nvidia actually launched and tried to push volume 40nm parts at the same time.

You have to wonder what kind of result Nvidia would have if they were not so dx11 product constrained for such a long period of time, afterall it delayed the entire lineup. When you consider marketshare isn't decided by highend product but more or less products under $200 and how long it took Nvida to market with their complete dx11 lineup for mainstream they're doing surprisingly well.

Yeah, maybe, playing what if game is rather hindsight 20-20, though i must say it's rather unfair comparing a situation in which a party has no control whatsoever regarding the event that took place (TSMC 40 nm supply constraint) vs a situation in which a party has only itself to blame regarding its own failure in delivering new products on time as it's supposed to be, they basically constrained themselves. I think we should leave it at that. :)

So, more leaks please !!! :up:
11-02-2010, 12:21 AM
highoctane

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Originally Posted by spursindonesia

Yeah, maybe, playing what if game is rather hindsight 20-20, though i must say it's rather unfair comparing a situation in which a party has no control whatsoever regarding the event that took place (TSMC 40 nm supply constraint) vs a situation in which a party has only itself to blame regarding its own failure in delivering new products on time as it's supposed to be, they basically constrained themselves. I think we should leave it at that. :)

So, more leaks please !!! :up:

Whatever, I don't mind you having the last plug but the act you put on as if ATI/AMD have never been in the same situation with a new product launch, r600 & agena. I think we should leave it at that.

Looking forward to some positive news...
11-02-2010, 01:45 AM
spursindonesia

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Originally Posted by highoctane

Whatever, I don't mind you having the last plug but the act you put on as if ATI/AMD have never been in the same situation with a new product launch, r600 & agena. I think we should leave it at that.

No, actually i agree with you, R600 debacle sucked, so did Agena. They made their own bed with those, so i didn't insinuating that AMD's all angels. ;)

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Originally Posted by highoctane

Looking forward to some positive news...

Yep i hope both IHVs overachieve this time compared to last time, nVidia on execution, AMD on architectural improvement. :up:

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