any good sites with chilled water setups in detail? bery interested in the idea... have some water coolers accessable to me...Quote:
Originally Posted by itznfb
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any good sites with chilled water setups in detail? bery interested in the idea... have some water coolers accessable to me...Quote:
Originally Posted by itznfb
Here's a screenshot of Prime ran on my 0610. Sure beats all the 170 chips I've had. But they were all CCB1E chips.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/7...00113ru.th.png
well, lemme know as these are my currently shipping ones (have 22 of them sitting here)Quote:
Originally Posted by itznfb
dave
CCBWE 0551 WPMW
2.6ghz (290x9 @ 1.45v)
6 hour Dual Prime95 Stable
meh. crappy stepping for an opteron.
crappy step? I haven't opened mine yet but this is what I got.Quote:
Originally Posted by bt_medic04
Opteron 170 ccbwe 0551upmw ...so I got crap too?
yeah. anything with CCCBWE 0551 is a poor overclocking stepping. i would try to return it if possible. i know im thinking about it
Well your asking alot of the ram to run at 270+ with tighter timings the ram porbably doesnt like that. My UCCC max is 170 and it took alot of tweaking to get that to run.Quote:
Originally Posted by Emperor
Looks good dude. I've got another 0610DPMW that came this week i'm getting ready to test out. I havn't been having the greatest of luck with the five or six i've tested so far. They normally require quite a bit of voltage to get stable at 2.9GHz or higher. You're running around 1.6v on that clock there aren't you? I thought that was what i saw for your settings over at dfi-street anyways. I think i may be limited by ither my motherboard, the RAM, or my cooling. Angry at dfi-street said he didn't think the Expert board was that great of an overclocker compared to the earlier DFI boards. I think i'm starting to agree because my temps aren't that bad with this Zalman CNPS9500. Could be the UCCC based RAM just doesn't play as well with the memory controllers too i guess. My DRAM settings should be good to go because i've tried a lot of combinations and all the different settings i've seen others use with the UCCC RAM. I'm satisfied with 2.85-2.9GHz but i'd like to get one up in the 2.95-3GHz range Prime stable without a ton of voltage. I'm probably going AM2 here before long once DFI releases their new nVidia chipset board so i'm not too worried over a measly ~100MHz clock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
The BIOS is set at 1.525x104.8%. Actual voltage under load is 1.594 measured with a scope. I haven't tried anything higher as for as voltage or overclocking yet. To go higher I'll probably have to pull the 2 sticks of EB as they're not 3d stable much higher at the current timings.
no, you got a processor that works exactly as AMD manufactured it.Quote:
Originally Posted by csimon
dave
Dave
In case you didn't recognize it, this processor is one of yours.
see below.
dave
which one, btw? the 0551 UPMW being discussed about 5 posts up or the 0610?Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
dave
The 0610. And it still has some headroom left in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by dave_graham
nice! i thought you were talking about the 0551 upmw from above.
dave
the 0610's coming out now are the best of the bunch i think
anyone have a problem w/ core 0 crashing after 1 or 2 mins of prime? i even tried raising the volts up a little bit and its still crashing on me.
2.9ghz at 1.45v is prime stable though
3.0ghz at 1.5-1.55v core 0 crash
core 0 seems to be always crapping out on me.
btw this is on water and temp is at 51-53c at 3.0ghz at 1.5-1.55v
could it be my IHS?
its a 165 0610
right now im trying out ice water and it seems to be priming pass the 1-3 minute mark. 3.0ghz at 1.488v. cpu temp on guardian is 38c.
core 0 failed after 17 minutes of prime :slapass:
I had posted earlier about an ebay auction for Opteron 165's for $290 & 170's for $389 CCB1E & CCBBE steppings available upon rrequest. This seller was originally pointed out by niexa77 and I'm glad he let us know. Now to the bad news. I bought a 170 CCBBE 0617 XXXX. I paid via paypal Friday morning and had the funds available in paypal so no need for transfers from bank account or credit cards. (Had a one time weird problem with paypal using an e-check a few weeks back due to cc expired so I had funded paypal and needed to spend it) Monday morning @ 9:27 a.m. I received an email from paypal that a shipping label had been created and it gave tracking info. I was a bit disappointed since I paid Friday morning 10 a.m. which would be 8 a.m. the sellers time, but figured o well I'll have it Wednesday. Wednesday came no cpu. Thursday came no cpu. Friday came no cpu. Seller is using USPS. I contacted them via email Friday after the mail ran. Was told my order processed Monday but did not ship til Wednesday morning June 14th. Once again I was disappointed but felt o well at least I have it Saturday to really spend some time seeing what its got over the weekend. Well you don't have to guess, it didn't come Saturday either:mad: :mad: :mad:
Now I buy & sell on ebay all the time. I prefer usps myself and only have trouble when shipping internationally. But Gawd :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: !!! Its been over a week since they've got my $$$ and still no cpu. The person I've been in contact with via email said he'd talk to his boss about overnighting another Monday.
Anyway I checked the feedback which I should of done in the first place and this seems to be a frequent problem. Good prices on some highly sought after CPU's everyone, but shipping & receiving seems to be an issue. I just thought I post back my experience before anyone else jumps on. By the way, the seller now says they can ship by other means if you request, so I strongly recommend it. Personally, I'm going back to Tankguys like I did before, or Give Dave another try. If this is inappropriate mods please delete just wanted to let others know how things have been so far.
Aaaaargh! hope i get mine :( i ordered two and half was not my money :(Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
i took the newegg route, but got a CCBWE 0551 :(
I'm sure I'll be over all the shipping troubles after I report the first opty 170 CCBBE stepping. The price is good too. I guess I'm just wanting people to know not to expect their product in a couple of days as we've become accustomed too. If you're in no rush it's still a good buy. After all, Monarch ships a few days after you order, which of course is why I never buy from them.
Has anyone found a good Phase Chip apart from the CCWBE 0550 UPMW Stepping?
With phase, I would be more concerned with getting higher multipliers to reduce cold bug problems with high HTT.Quote:
Originally Posted by rapty
Alot of early week CCBWE stuff does well (0516-1517) as does 0530 and 0550, but random weeks can do well also. You might want to look at 4600+s, CDBHE stuff.
been thinking about removing the ihs on my 4400, what are the pro's and cons
(i know removing takes out the barrier between your cooling solution and the heat source, but what sort of temp gains can i expect?)
also, i have read (in this thread i believe) that removing makes them a little fragile... i dont lan, but my g/f has no concept of Delicate Hardware whatsoever...
would a lighter (but less effective) cooling solution like the sl-120 (may have gotten code a little wrong... the 120mm TR cooler that fits all motherboards??) suffice for this? (light enough not to cause any problems if the case was bumped)
anyone have any High Quality Hearsay about ihs+air cooling solutions? :P tossing up between:
-ttBT with ac12(silence will be a consideration on one pc im afraid :( ) (possibly side panel intake duct) heavy?
-xp-90c with 90-120mm fan adapter with ac12 (artic cooling "cage"-look 12cm fan.. 74cfm, seems ok?) its heavy though
-sl-120, ac12+ side panel intake duct
anyone had any experience with the asetek vapo micro's? online reviews about it are not great...
ok.. /OT... soz for the question bombardment :P recommend better place to ask these questions at will :P
Another nice Opty , bought from the U.S.A. on eBay-never had problems there.
Tankguys refuse to sell to the "high risk areas " including my country, which is fully stable and doing well , nesting among other EU countries.;)
Kind of a strange attitude .. but it s up to them .So I have to rely on the eBay:D
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/3...inal2yc.th.jpg
famich,
what's your country?
dave
so far im @2720 with stock Vcore
using ORTHOS BETA Stress Prime for dual core
FSB Bus Frequency............................. 303 MHz
LDT/FSB Frequency Ratio....................... 3
CPU/FSB Frequency Ratio....................... 9
PCI eXpress Frequency......................... 100
CPU Voltage .................................. 1.325V
Above CPU VID................................. auto
LDT Voltage .................................. 1.30v
ChipSet (NF4) Voltage ........................ 1.75V
DRAM Voltage ................................. 2.55V
Memclock (DRAM Frequency) .................... 150
1T/2T Timing (Command Per Clock).............. 1T (CPC enabled)
CAS Latency (Tcl)............................. 3T
RAS# to CAS# delay (Trcd)..................... 3T
Min RAS# active time (Tras)................... 8T
Row precharge time (Trp)...................... 3T
Row Cycle time (Trc).......................... 12T
Row refresh cyc time (Trfc)................... 16T
Row to Row delay (Trrd)....................... 3T
Write recovery time (Twr)..................... 3T
Write to Read delay (Twtr).................... 2T
Read to Write delay (Trwt).................... 3T
Refresh Period (Tref)......................... 3120
DRAM Bank Interleave.......................... Enabled
DQS Skew Control.............................. Auto
DQS Skew Value................................ 0
DRAM Drive Strength........................... Level 08
DRAM Data Drive Strength...................... Level 2 (Reduce 30%)
Max Async Latency............................. 8ns
DRAM Response Time............................ Normal
Read Preamble Time............................ 6ns
IdleCycle Limit............................... 64
Dynamic Counter............................... Disable
R/W Queue Bypass.............................. 16x
Bypass Max.................................... 4x
32 Byte Granularity........................... Disable (4 Bursts)
if anybody knows any better settings let me know
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Yamaha diversion specifications
yea. something is kind of shady with this seller. he sent me a tracking number and when i checked it, it said that it was delivered somewhere in indiana back on 1/31. i emailed the seller and he said that is was a customs tracking number (since i am in canada), but that doesnt explain why he gave me a number that was delivered in jan. its been over a week for mine as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
lol
i know for a fact that a certain store in GA is selling procs via ebay and is lowballing pricing. *shrug* if all you're after is price, then ebay is the answer but like Nemesis is stating above, you run the risk of losing your money.
listen, i know my prices are higher than other people but honestly, it's not an attempt to get more money out of ya'll; it's simply trying to make sure the balance sheet at the end of the month is cleared. it's a tough biz but definitely worth the fight.
dave
i was just going to say.. those shipping issues sound suspiciously similar to a certain store in GA that maybe starts with M, and ends with onarch?
I absolutely will not buy anything from Monarch. I always buy stuff Thursdays or Fridays and chose overnight shipping. I like to get my parts near the weekend and spend it tweaking and testing. I never have the time during the week and when I use to get stuff during the week I'd get so eager that I'd neglect work or stay up all night. Monarchs "Usually ships in 2-3 business days" + 2-4 to days of shipping just plain suxs.Quote:
Originally Posted by itznfb
Dave, your prices are extremely fair, and I don't think anyone feels you overcharge. You're cheaper than Tankguys & Excalibur PC, which are the only others I know that will give stepping info. We all appreciate each time you stop in and let us know what you have available. Now get some good stepping 170's so I can buy one!:D
well, i've got a couple of 170 0551 UPMWs lying around... :P
seriously, it's like AMD just released a :banana::banana::banana::banana:load of 0551s to the distys 'cos Avnet STILL has them.
*Sigh*
dave
Quote:
Originally Posted by dave_graham
Czech Republic , Dave :)
to the peeps who have a dpmw 0610 at 3ghz stable do you think you could post some athlon 64 tweaker screenshots and some info to what your other settings are, thanks alot.:)
This is on my 0608, but I use the exact same settings for all dual core Opties that I try and they work great
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/6...tled0oq.th.jpg
the most important thing is MAL to 8, maybe 9 and drive strength to 5 or 7 and DDS to 1
Links to my settings and benchmarks.
3025
3050 2GB memory
3050 4GB memory
Gabe needs to use your settings. My Expert/Venus boards won't even boot at 3.0+ with a weak DS with CE-6 memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
He has UCCC though, if he just copies my settings he will end up having to clear CMOS
Praz
your ram settings?? i see you show alot of zeros and your tras is zero wount this cause problems i thought tras hast to be ~trcd+trp+2~ or close
could you clarify please im working ram timing right now cause i think it is limiting me right now
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Chrysler b platform
Quite a few people have Tras set to 0. It's just one of those things. It either does or doesn't work.Quote:
Originally Posted by billdavis
not for me
you have any other settings
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Crf450r
as long as the US doesn't have a trade embargo, etc. against ya, i ship there.Quote:
Originally Posted by famich
very few exceptions to that rule.
dave
hmm, well i cant seem to get past 2.91ghz, i tryed 2.93ghz and prime failed in about 5-10 minutes, 2.91ghz is totally stable though. I cant seem to get my memory stable on the 166 divider, its stable at the 150 divider which is running at 242mhz but cant goto the next divider, prime fails in a few minutes.
Couldn't help myself, took the IHS off the 0610DPMW that I got a week or two ago, going at 3GHz@1.425v. We'll see if it holds up to increased temps of gaming, that's the real test
If your ram is holding you back you don't want to use the settings I posted. They are as tight as I could get themQuote:
Originally Posted by billdavis
taking the IHS off is kinda tempting but if I only go from 2.91 to 3ghz its not really worth it, what was your speed before you took it off?Quote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
same speed before, just +.025v required. It may help more if your temps are higher, mine were good in the first place
is 300x9 @ 1.3v any good?
seemes to be stable for me!
It's decent, should be 2.8@stock and 3GHz@1.55 if you can keep temps down!
Let me know if I'm right!
anyway, just tested something-
3051@1.475, ccbbe 0610dpmw
naked+ASC=42C load
naked+liquid metal=35C load
Forgot how nice this stuff is!
dammit! F@H kept sending in unfinnished WUs. goung to try 1.325!
wow thats nice! 7c difference!Quote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
I havent got the beste cooling, so i dont think i can run 3Ghz yet. getting a 6002 soon, that will help a bit, but needs something else than a core since i dont tolerate much noise!
I bought some of that stuff after I saw some of your other results but chickened out on using it. I see you change cpu's here & there. Does it come off okay using say nail polish remover? How did you go about spreading it when u had the IHS on? Credit card or Q-tip? Thinking of giving it a try if I ever get my 170 from ebay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
where do i get some? is it mercury?Quote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
I bought mine at SVC. It's similar to mercury, but its not. Do not by anymeans get it in contact with aluminum it will cause a chemical reaction and eat it away. Google Coollaboratory Liquid Pro for more info on the product.Quote:
Originally Posted by niexa77
Quote:
Originally Posted by dave_graham
THX,Dave, gonna remember that :woot:
yeah I change alot lately. I actually have never used it on a CPU with IHS, I imagine a dot in the center would be fine for that. I've always used the naked core, and yeah q-tip actually works best. That's what I used the first time, and it worked great.. forgot about it though and I've been using a credit card since, having a much tougher time with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
So yeah, with IHS just a drop in the center, naked put electrical tape around the core, then spread it with a q-tip.
It actually doesn't run at all, it loves to stick to itself.. so you're good there, no worries about it dripping down your pc.. plus the liquid metal is reusable
I can memtest my ram all night long on 2.45 v
does anyone know if there is any problems with to low of ram voltage like the CPU frying issue with ram overvolted to high????????
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Honda WOW
I just got my Opty 170 CCB1E 0550VPMW. I replaced a 3700+. I followed the instructions to the T about doing the dual core fix on the thread HERE. I did notice the the Opty runs about 6-8C warmer than my 3700+. If you look at my sig you will notice that I am water cooled and atm my opty is running at 38C. Now my water loop is cooling my CPU and two 7800GTX as well. When I get to around 270 x 10 my mouse and screen start to act up. Prime95 does not fail but my mouse starts moving to all of the corners and starts acting like I am right clicking on things. My screen starts flashing also. This is my first experience with a dual core CPU. I did NOT reinstall XP. I just took out my old 3700+, installed my new one with AS5, and booted, set factory bios to default, and started turning it up. I am currently running at 1.45v but Ihave tried higher with the same results.
Any ideas?
Pay with a credit card whenever you can and its not a problem. If your in the US and a seller accepts PayPal then you should never pay with your PayPal balance or through your bank account. Switch to credit card for the extra protection.Quote:
Originally Posted by dave_graham
1.45v? Thats really low for DDR. Have you tried running Windows Memtest for a couple of hours?Quote:
Originally Posted by billdavis
1.45 is impossible on DDR, or DDR2 for that matter
Maybe DDR3 or DDR4? Anyway, the lowest Expert vdimm option is 2.2v. 1.45v isn't possible anyway. Even if the board is modded, DDR can't run on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
not even that :lol: The best mhz my x1900 ddr3 will do with 1.785v is about 350-400MHz
I'm sure he meant cpu voltage though
no i messed up the ddr volts it is 2.45, sorry
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Nighttime would be the only time because it's just a dream.Quote:
Originally Posted by billdavis
I've heard a few people running around that voltage with UCCC, i think they were using 2.5v.Quote:
Originally Posted by billdavis
Gskill UCCC (HZ) run perfectly well on 2.5. Mine went to 270 (3-4-4-8) at that voltage.
question:
i have a nice 0610DPMW that does ~2850 on stock vcore (1.328v), but 3000 isn't even stable on 1.5v. Shouldn't this be a breeze? I've got watercooling with triple rad, so temps are no problem.
No. That's how these things scale. They go like crazy with very little voltage and then the bottom drops out. Some are never able to reach 3.0 stable. If you're at 1.5V give it some more voltage.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPivX
3GHz isn't easy to get stable on these chips, even the best steppings like 0610DPMW. Most that are stable at 3GHz or higher are running 1.55-1.6v+. There are a small number that have hit it with a little less voltage. A lot of those you see with 1.5v or less are likely not Prime stable for any long period of time and would require the 1.55-1.6v to get there. Those seeing the best results have removed the IHS and have watercooling.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPivX
the highest voltage for my dpmw0610 on 3ghz was 1.58v and it still wasnt prime stable, not sure if it would get stable at 1.6v, but i dont even think i would want to run 1.6v. btw iam on a Scythe SCNJ-1000P Ninja PLUS heatsink.Quote:
Originally Posted by burningrave101
Could not agree more :) I ve had two that were at least 3H /asked by this forum / Prime stable, however , the Vcore had to be pushed up ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by burningrave101
BTW, yesterday 0610 collapsed on 3GHz when playing HL2 -so...
I ve got watercooling , but the IHS is on and it really makes the difference - when the temperature of the CPU rises, I believe that the mem controller starts to fail and bye bye stability ;)
For casual gaming I prefer 2900@1,4VCore, which is stable and the loading temps are WAY down .
Quote:
Originally Posted by eXa
Quote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
dammit. im so jealous. i can only get 2650 @ 1.35v and i need 1.475-1.5v for 2.8 GHz! i no longer think its the memory. it HAS to be the chip.......right?Quote:
Originally Posted by SPivX
stock volts = load of 38c
1.5v = load of 45c
are my temps ok?
btw. has anyone recieved a chip from the ebay seller that was mentioned a few pages back? its been a week and a half and no chip, no tracking number, and no refund of the difference between his 2 auctions.
Well I had a last run with the CCB1E 0608MPMW, it will be run at 3Ghz@1.425 until someone buys it. (hint hint asian :rolleyes: ) Single core for me until Conroe is here
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/3979/311553gf.th.jpghttp://img251.imageshack.us/img251/8242/331656fa.th.jpg
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=101169
bah...i already ordered another CCBBE from that ebay guy so im awaiting the results of that chip. i think i would need wc-ing to get another CCB1E. they run hotter then the other optys ive owned.
highest mine can do is 2.91ghz @ 1.475v
Im having problems getting my ram past 240mhz
Send them an email complaining etc. You will more than likely get a response from a guy name kevin pretty quick. They are suppose to be overnighting me another one that will be here tomorow so we'll see. I went ahead and bought another one, 165 CCBBE for $275 today. They have several 1 day auctions for 165's @ $275 & 170's @ $355. If you ask for the ccbbe stepping they say okay but since no one has actually received their chip who knows. I guess I'll be first if they really do overnight the 170 today. I'm not gonna pay for the 165 until I have the 170 tomorrow and I requested overnight shipping on it as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by blazin-asian
ive emailed them twice already with no reply so far. they have confirmed that they sent me a CCBBE, but the fact that they gave me a 5 month old tracking number worries me. im attending a wedding in TX so i'll be gone for a week. i figure by the time i get back and if there is no notice for me to pick up a package...then hell will be raised. i really wanted to play with it before i left too.
sorry man, i never use ebay to buy something, its a sellers market. best of luck I hope it gets sorted out.Quote:
Originally Posted by blazin-asian
thats still 110 MHz more on same volts and im still on 1/2 divider :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gabe3
my highest is 2.85 @ 1.55v
Done! At last here's 3.0 GHz 4h+ dual prime stable, watercooling and 1.568v:Quote:
Originally Posted by burningrave101
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g1...rime334x91.jpg
will try with less volts, updates follow :banana:
congrats lucky dude:clap:
is your IHS on? when i run 1.5+ volts my temp jumps to around 50c+. i think my wc setup is bad or poor IHS contact. its a maze4 w/ 2 radiator on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPivX
wouldn't his temps be around 50c? with the DFI 10 degree offset?
so you are saying dfi has a 10c degree different? so my dfi sli-dr is showing 50c to be 60c!?
btw itsnfb do you get on aim? cause i added your sn to my aim. was looking for you to get online to help me w/ my oc.
I can get my Opty 170 CCB1E 0550VPMW to 295 x 10 but my memory is holding me back at 260-265.
Teecee: if your memory is holding you back use a divider. it shouldn't affect your performance much.
i havn't heard anything either... emailed them just now after finally checking my tracking number (nearly a week after recieving it) and it not being registered with usps... we'll see where this goes, had a bad run with ebay of late and i've already used a paypal buyer protection claim... think you only get 3 a year?Quote:
Originally Posted by blazin-asian
fingers crossed for us all...
Quote:
Originally Posted by niexa77
This is my replacement 170 since I never got the first, ita suppose to be here tomorrow by noon. My fingers are crossed for us all as well.Quote:
Label/Receipt Number: EQ36 9638 XXXU S
Status: Enroute
Your item was processed and left our CITY OF INDUSTRY, CA 91715 facility on June 20, 2006. Information, if available, is updated every evening. Please check again later.
Quote:
Originally Posted by z00mX
thats bullcrap there is no 10c difference.
the dfi temps are just about perfect withing a few degrees this can be tested by installing a probe.
i have never seen nor heard of any 10 offset
i think it has been an issue with the DFI Expert. it can vary between different BIOS's as well. when i installed the 704-2BTA and 406 for my ultra-d, it automatically lowered my cpu temp -8c so when i booted into windows i was idling at 20c!!
i then realized it was too good to be true so i went into the bios and changed it back to AUTO under the PC HEALTH menu.
don't know if i agree with this. my old SLI-DR reports temps 8-10 degrees higher than my new Ultra-D, so if it's true, my load temp would be 38+~8 = ~46c.Quote:
Originally Posted by blazin-asian
a little OT,
but what affect does kit dram (OCZ5002048EBPE-K)
vs.
2 x (OCZ5001024EBPE)
is it likely to stress the mem controller my (not yet arrived) 165 ccbbe on air? do they have a particularly weak/strong mem controller typicly?
Could anyone tell me how is about coldbug in my Opteron? I've search topic but I cant find many information about it.
My rev is in my sig. I wanna buy FC unit, but i don't know on which temp I could have coldbug (sorry of my english :( )
Update:Quote:
Originally Posted by SPivX
another improvement, here's 8h+ dual prime stable with 1.536v:
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g1...me334x91-1.jpg
still going strong, currently priming @ 1.520v, almost 2h :banana: will inform you :toast:
do you have the heatspreader on or off?
Can anyone explain why I would have a 6 degree C difference in idle temps by changing from yellow to orange memory slots on this board? All my settings are idententical except I get 6 more mhz memory speed in the orange slots.:confused:
IHS is still on, i'm thinking about removing it. I'm on watercooling. Would 10 degrees make a lot of difference in OC'ing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gabe3