Alright thanks man! I will give it a try...
I also see you have a mobile and the XP-120...did you have to mod yours in anyway for it to make good contact?
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Alright thanks man! I will give it a try...
I also see you have a mobile and the XP-120...did you have to mod yours in anyway for it to make good contact?
To be more realistic, 12x300 with mem 1:1 would be da bomb!Quote:
Originally Posted by ugp
I've never seen a socket 754 CPU doing over 3.3GHz so even 11x300 will be elusive to most of us.
Come to think of what 12x300 would do... :slobber:
Now let's not turn this thread into a GF4 next gen hardware performance guess thread. :D
Yeh I sanded the base of the back plate (i guess that's what you call it)... I mean the thing the heatsink sits on.Quote:
Originally Posted by ugp
I think I almost went too far because putting the XP120 on was quite difficult and nerve racking... but the contact now is great... On full load my CPU sits at 39c... idle is usually 24c-26c :)
What is your CPU clocked at? And you have a DTR right? 82-Watt? or the 62-Watt?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabbi_NZ
About how much do you think you took off of it?
I'm still tuning her but last night I ran "Prime95 128k-4096k 10hours"/SuperPI 32MB/Sandra/MemTest and all were stable at 10x260 2-2-2-10-1T with 1.75vcore/3.3vdimmQuote:
Originally Posted by ugp
Max temp during the testing was 41c but sat between 38c-40c most of the time.
I sanded it about half way down... but the way you know not to go too far is, keep trying to sit it flat on your board after every millimeter or so that you sand off (it will sand down very quickly). If you go too far, the two standoffs that come through the back of the board will be too long to fit in the two holes of the "backplate" so it will rock side-to-side... YOU DONT WANT THAT.
So sand down about a mm at a time, then check... if you go too low the "backplate" may also sit on some other small components around the socket... so jus keep an eye out for everything like that and you will be fine :)
Anybody have this board with 5.1 speakers and use the onboard sound?
Yes, works fine for me so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Godmyster
Well just got done sanding it down...helped alittle but didn't seem to do much really. I am not sure. System is stable at these temps so I guess it is fine. What I really need to do it lap down the Heatsink. Before sanding the backplate down I threw in my old 3200+ and at 250x8.0 it sat at 30C...the mobile sat at 43C at the same clock. Something to me doesn't seem right....
Are you taking these readings from SmartGaurdian? or a probe?
I am going by BIOS...but nonetheless I tried my other CPU and going by BIOS readings they shouldn't differ that much even if the BIOS is off....unless it isn't reading the DTR right...is that possible? It doesn't make since to me at all. But a DTR should run cooler at the same clock speeds right? I am very confused on this.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToastedToad
Same clocks should giv "similar" temps I would think... but remember the readings are from temp readings INSIDE the die... so it is possible they are being READ/MEASURED wrongly with the Mobile... or with the older chip for that matter. Unless you have a probe I wouldnt worry too much... as long as you see no stability issues that is
if your case is filling up with really hot air you know somethings wrong if its all cool then it good
Well it differs at different times...I am unsure...and because I am unsure of the temps I don't want to take it much further. What are safe temps anyway? But I also do not have a probe I can use to check the temps.
put your hand on the heatsink.
If it is too hot to hold it there its running too hot.
No it isn't that hot. I think it is actually fine. I think something just isn't reading right. It seems to be very cool overall in there now. I am even running the side case window back on it and it is working pretty good now. I am going to try to overclock it to atleast 260x10.0 and 1:1 with the same settings in my sig except alittle more voltage on the core.
i just downloaded the last ut nf3 250 beta bios and I made bootable disk with the format tool of windows. I treid to flash the bios but when i run:
awdflash bios.bin
it starts up a program which is going to backup my current bios and at that point the flash utility won't go any further
What should i do ?
:stick:
flash from windows with WinFlash
so, are there any new information about the new winner of DFI? :D
Can someone tell me where to measure VDimm on this board please?
I have a feeling my 3.4v setting is giving around 3.32v under memtest load...
backside of the large mosfet in top right corner of board (above dimm slots).
Cheers dude, can you tell me what pin?
The backside.
There is no pin, its the back... just the base of metal you can see.
Cool, I know what you mean. I'm actually thankful it is that part... less chance of my clumsy hands shorting two pins together.Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
Thanks STEvil.
So , flashed my bios succesfully today and i can boot 2650 now in windows , with the stock i couldn't so abit improvement has taken place. I hope they release a new bios soon with a lot of fixes, anyone knows if they are still working on a new bios ?
can someone please link the bios update with memtest86 and 4.0vdimm for this board:help:
ok i got it thx but this is showing that i cant use the memtest feature for some reason. it just reboots at any clock when it is set to on.
Anybody have this board with a DVD-ROM Plextor?!?!?!! Urgente!!
my friend, i have DFI NF3 whith Plextor dvdrom (116A revision A3) ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Godmyster
Quote:
Originally Posted by aCidbAbY
I had the same problem with it. At first it worked flawlessly, but all of a sudden it started doing the same as is it for you. I could run it but as soon as I changed ANYTHING in BIOS it would stop working. It's okay with me, since OCZ put out their version of memtest I have been using that.
you have to "load optimzed defaults" then reset your oc choices. then memtest works
Yeh but for me it only works until I change something. Can be as simple as boot order. Any changes make memtest not run, for me.
A common misconception - lower tras means better pwerformance. It's not actaully a latency as you would normally think of a latency in that way.
The best performing value varies from chipset to chipset; and from cas latency (tcl) to tcl. For example, on nForce3, at cas2, the best performing tras value is 10. At cas 1.5, it's 7(or 0 works in this case as well).
Woah... this is much, much worse than [H] in terms of the sheer number of people, that is.. in 30 seconds, 10 replies :eek:
Edit: doh, nvm stupid upside-down board arrangement. Curses.
Actually it really depends on what you are going for: latency, unbuffered bandwidth, buffered bandwidth, or 3dmark points.
Tras of 13 produces some interesting results btw ;) ;)
unduffered band and 3dmarks are the ones important
Yes, the mosfet with 5 legs is the correct one. Measure on the side closest to the brown capacitor (backside of the mosfet) since then you dont have to touch any of the legs.
If Q38 works too then I see no problem using it..
will try Q38 tonight.... that other MOSFET seems to overvolt.... maybe my board jus overvolts, I dont know, but at 3.3v setting I sit at 3.35v.
If someone could post a picture with all voltage measurement points and Vdmods for this board it would be great. :)
I just set up my dfi and was wondering how off the motherboards temp sensors usually are?
has anyone noticed that on this mb you can set the LDT setting to auto and not have to touch it during ocing? i have my ldt set to auto and im at 290x10 1:1 :shrug: am i the only one or have any of you tired this??
thx perc,
I always set LDT ratio to AUTO during overclocking HTT!Quote:
Originally Posted by Perc
hi guys
got a big problem with the DFI board now the booster works fine also my kingston bh-5 2x256Mb but....
i got the new modded bios with 4.0V but if i set the booster to 3,9-4,0 which is actually 3,8Volt it wouldnt boot anymore and i ve to turn off/on psu.
i can do 280 2-3-2-5 but its very unstable 275 2-2-2-5 is all time well but on 280 the board makes me troubles i think...
also what ram would ya prefer if ur ocing on the dfi lanparty ut now?
i would like such sticks 2x512 2,5-3(4)-3(4)-5(-10) @ 300 1:1
tia
seEn andL
If I remember correctly, the board will not boot anything more than v3.6....I can't remember for sure though.
Anyone knows if OCZ VX works good on this board ?
no, you just need to have your +3.3v rail high enough (0.2v above vdimm).
KLISP - I have had mine to 260mhz 2-2-2-10 on the board.
Oppainter said his wouldn't boot above 3.6Vdimm, he had to turn vdimm down below 3.6V boot up and then adjust Vdimm again for higher Vdimm.Quote:
Originally Posted by andL64
Yeah that is what I thought i remember hearing about it. Right on Zeus.
in my case its also so.... but still got great results 280 1:1 @ 1,5-2-2-0 :D
HTT428MHz on NewCastle 3000+ DFI_754
http://www.hot.ee/robotron/fsb.png
What is your memory stick ?Quote:
Originally Posted by sluggard
an the CPU stepp ?
it's incredible with a newcastle :slobber:
memory is async@100MHz in bios, meaning that my random value ram stick is @224MHz :p:
dunno the stepping right now, but the CPU is from 0447. still can tell you exact stepping soon...
Corsair BH5 3500 @1,5-2-2-4 1T 3.9v on the same mobo
291MHz, but unstable :cool:
http://www.hot.ee/robotron/BH5_291.png
sandra buffered
http://www.hot.ee/robotron/bh5_bench.png
superpi 1M
http://www.hot.ee/robotron/9x283.PNG
Nice result, very good RAM! :up:
EDITED:
Link Removed. No Spamming Allowed.
Just a headup while everyone's busy with their new NF4 toys, here's an update for this veteran mb:
DFI released the latest beta bios dated Jan 28 for UT Lanparty NF3, DRAM bank interleave finally made available in BIOS.
I tried myself, unbuffered memory bandwidth and memtest speed got a nice boost now. Now memtest+ with the new bios, I got higher MB/s at 265MHz than 300MHz previously with the old bios. No stability penality observed so far.
tin tin, would you try the HTT higher than 325 for us, we found the nF3 250Gb cant hit the HTT over 325...Thanks... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by TinTin
I hit 355Quote:
Originally Posted by hkalex
It depends on CPU - I had 3 and 1st did 335, 2nd 325, 3rd 355
http://members.lycos.co.uk/yotomecze/htt%20355.JPG
True.Quote:
Originally Posted by yotomeczek
I could boot and run Prime95 perfectly stable at 420 with my old ClawHammer, a pic is somewhere in this thread.
Now with my NewCastle, booting at 320 is a no go.
It's all about the CPU. ;)
Clawhammer always does it better~ :DQuote:
Originally Posted by hkalex
ours cant hit over 325 htt, even i got the DTR :slobber:Quote:
Originally Posted by TinTin
431HTT, I remember I did a 435HTT before, but I lost the picture! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by hkalex
Did you apply suitable memory divider? HTT ratio?
There is almost no need to raise the chipset voltage too much, just +0.1V~
I have a quick question...I can't seem to find my answer here in the thread...Which SATA ports are better to use on this motherboard? 1&2 or 3&4? Right now I am using 3&4...I thought I remember reading something about an issue with 1&2 along time ago...Thanks.
I used 3-4, and disabled 1-2. I'm with you, I remebered reading something about OC issues with 1-2 but I was just looking for it and couldn't find it quickly.
I had no setup problems at all using 3-4.
The issue with the SATA Ports 1 and 2 is that by using them you limit your FSB to 240 in a 1:1 ratio. You can go higher using SATA ports 3 and 4.
Oh ok...well I guess I will keep using 3&4 then. But I thought there was an issue and I was right...Quote:
Originally Posted by zippyc
Please post a link or info for this bios. I visited dfi-street.com and nowhere to be found. I can't believe they enabled BI after all the complaining I used to do about not having it has a option in the bios. :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by ahfung
Has anyone tried using 3 sticks of RAM with this mobo? If anyone has, what kind of experiences do you have? I bought 1 BH-5 (256 MB) stick (Kingston Value RAM) yesterday to operate with my 2 x 256 KHX-3200. All sticks are single-sided and BH-5.
Testing is still going on, but I thought I should ask here what to expect.
1T setting seems to be impossible, but I thought I should get reasonable FSB for my RAM. Those KHX-sticks had no problem in 24/7 use @ 240 x 10 with 3,15 V. Now that 240 seems to be unreachable, even with 2T-setting.
Any help and advise is appreciated, thanks :)
W3rD :toast: http://s6.invisionfree.com/undercloc...?showtopic=407Quote:
Originally Posted by RacerX
There are alot more BIOS versions then that one out there...
anyone tried .09 sempron on this board yet?
I haven't heard yet
Just speccing out DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 SLI-DR build am unsure which is best out of these :-
Concerns :-
Thermalright XP-120 Pipes will they block DDR4 Slot or if orientated other way interfere with any capacitators.
(I notice that MSI Neo2 & 4s can't use this cooler.)
Swiftech MCX6400-V - Weight 750gm (Ex Fan) puts it way over the AMD recomendation of about 460gm (Not good for LanParties :D)
3rd option may be to bottle out & go for the Swiftech MCX64
Would appreciate feedback from anybody using either of these.
Performance of both is good XP-120 ahead on Temp/Noise
PC Perspective - Comparison Swiftech MCX6400
Thanks :)
Could anyone else find this one he's speaking of? or should I just use the tictac modded BIOS?Quote:
Originally Posted by ahfung
Quote:
Originally Posted by isp
woopty woop woop :toast: EnJOy>>> http://forums.extremeoverclocking.co...&postcount=848
Yeah that just takes me to tictacs post. Thanks I'll use that then...
edit: haha, i'm such a noob i need sata slots 3&4
Running a Palermo 2800+ at 2.2ghz for now, rock stable, getting higher seems to be instable... probably something I missed.Quote:
Originally Posted by loonym
I have got CPU-Z Validation at 2.6ghz though...
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=18549
x86-secret seems to be down right now...
just a (short) question :
*Does every "DFI LANPARTY UT nforce3 motherboard" reach the 300mhz HTT ?
because i tested with mine, and i reached 265~270mhz..but nothing higher...
i tested with ch-5 ram wich is able to run 250mhz @ 2-2-2-5 @ 3.16vdimm...
(i use the modded bios > up to 4vdimm)
*When i set 3.3Vdimm, my system resets the bios to 2.5vdimm > what can cause this 'strange' problem ?!
my system : http://pc.naar.be (choose the amd64 2800+ setup)
greetz
brecht
(sorry for my bad english.. i'm from belgium)
You can always try a divider... and my board can reach 325mhz HTT but the CPU can't handle that stably.
So lower your CPU multiplier and change the RAM Divider, then see how high it goes.
i triedQuote:
Originally Posted by Borgschulze
lowering the ram divider
lowering the cpu multiplier
i set my LDT to 1x
...
ram timings > should it be at auto ? or can i set my CL2 timings (with my divider active..)
UPDATE :
i can set 300mhz in bios..
and ram with divider..
LDT @ 1x
MP @ 4x
vChipset @ 1.89v (set at 1.9v)
but now...
i get an error
--------------------------------------------------------------
NVIDIA RAID IDE ROM BIOS 4.66
Copyright (c) 2004 NVIDIA Corp.
Detecting array ...
_
---------------------------------------------------------------
> thats the error...
(i have a 7200 rpm hdd (ata133))
You will need to use a divider above 260+ likely.Quote:
*Does every "DFI LANPARTY UT nforce3 motherboard" reach the 300mhz HTT ?
because i tested with mine, and i reached 265~270mhz..but nothing higher...
i tested with ch-5 ram wich is able to run 250mhz @ 2-2-2-5 @ 3.16vdimm...
(i use the modded bios > up to 4vdimm)
Your PSU's +3.3v supply is not high enough for the motherboard to be able to output more than approximately 3.2v. You will need to increase the +3.3v supply to increase above 3.2v in the bios.Quote:
*When i set 3.3Vdimm, my system resets the bios to 2.5vdimm > what can cause this 'strange' problem ?!
Yes, set the timings for your RAM manually, do not let the BIOS do it, it tends to mess up my timings at least...
Set the LDT to 3x, and prepare to tweak alot till you get it stable.
how can i reach the 300mhz HTT..
i still get the Nvidia Raid error, while all RAID configs are disabled :(
i use :
*1 ata hdd (ata slot 1)
*1 cd-drive (ata slot 2)
where's the problem ? :(
Yes i get the nv raid error also..im looking to oc my 3000+ DTR but cant get past 240 fsb....this is making me sad :(
This is what I can get prime95 stable on my A64 mobile 3200+ CH with a gig of OCZ 3700EB, and water on the cpu:
250Mhz x 10 @1.78v - 1T ; 3-3-3-8 @ 3.1v
Other than minor tweaks and trying to lower the multi (I can't get over 270 with 1gb of EB and reasonable settings anyhow), I think I have it maxed for the moment. I will try to tighten my ram settings some more. I have tried to get it stable at 3-3-2-8, but its a no go.
I followed that "ideal" OC settings for the board on some other thread (dfi-street?, I forget). Does this seem ok to you guys? Any tips for getting more out of the cpu or tighter timings?
Now for some reason when I took apart my old system to clean it all out because of the dust it was working fine before hand... After I put everything back in it stopped POSTing...what could have happened? Or what did I do to it?
Does anyone have any links to old bios files? I found a disk with one labeled: N32LD128
not sure how old it is.
thanks
Guys, my 3700EB just failed on me (one of the sticks). Since it is discontinued, I am wondering what you guys would recommend in the new OCZ line that would be at least as good? What is an acceptable replacement given that it no longer exists?
Thanks