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So hows everybody finding the new batch?
Just flashed to 2102m, thanks again Ket:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
Just as stable as 1613m, and 2002m was for me at the settings in my sig.
But, just as before, can't go any higher with the fsb or any lower with the multi, keeping it at the same cpu speed. It is where it is:rolleyes:
But I must be patient and hang on to this board for a good while yet.
Just finished a new build for a friend, my first i7 (his i7, that is:D).
Asus P6T Deluxe V.2 mobo, 920 cpu, 6 gigs of Corsair ram, etc.
Flashed it to 0406, got the 21x multi, zipped it up to 4000MHz no problem.
Lovely board.
That's going to take a long while to save up the shiekels for:D
On the first page of this thread, there is solution to a corrupt bios. It states to put a 'good' bios on a floppy and the motherboard will recognize it. A floppy has 1.44MB of disk space, while a bios is a 2.00MB file. How do you use a floppy for this process, which does not have enough capacity?
Thanks
That example is for P5Q/Pro etc boards, for boards with a 2MB BIOS just make a bootable USB or CD.. kinda obvious that one :p:
Thanks, I am kinda dense sometimes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
Hey Ket, thanks for this awesome batch of BIOSes. I have problems with both P5Qs and my P5Q Deluxe that crash for no reason, and it seems like your custom BIOS fixed it for some users in the thread, so I decided to give your BIOS a try on my P5Q to see how it runs. If it turns out it fixes my issues, I will be eternally grateful to you! :)
I'll repost for a further report about the situation :P
Scsatemi for English corrretto not exactly ... but use the translator google!
I have a p5q pro ... I have problems with overclocking my q9650 e0 and 2x2gb pc2-8800 g.skill ... I can not be stable with a fsb more than 450 ... my motherboard, which is very strange, requires very low voltage ... if you get up to find the stability you restart or worse does not start ... there are improvements with these bios?
I can install it safely?
thank you very much
Hey Ket,
I'm back dude :D! Still running your 1613m, tempted to try the new 200Xm but not sure.. I finally figured out what the hell was going on with my system not posting! It was the memory :|!
My system will not post off the hop if my memory is at it's rated DDR2-1066! Doesn't matter on volts, or if I refined the settings with The Ram Guy. If I let it 'warm up' for 5-10 minutes, no problem, that is MESSED (LOL)!
I currently have my RAM running at DDR2-800 at 4-4-4-12 2.1v (as opposed to DDR2-1066 at 5-5-5-15 at 2.1v) so it works out in the end kind of...
Got my 6600 OC'd to 3.2GHz with a good amount of playing around, and all of my settings refined as much as I could manage. OCCT 12hr stable and also 3D stable for hours right now, can't get much more out of the CPU without insane volts (damn 1.35v VID!), I did talk Intel into RMA'ing my CPU due to the cold-bug if I get courageous :P!
I'll likely copy out my settings again, flash the board up, and give 'er a shot to make her more stable. Maybe I can get a little bit out of the memory yet.
Can't remember if I'm using the 333 strap or 400 strap. I believe I stuck with the 333 strap as you recommended. I may have my memory at 940 at 4-4-4-12 2.1v....I'll double-check.
Thanks for all of your help and suggestions, Ket! Of course, many thanks for the modded BIOSes as well!
Hey ket,
I was just curious to know what you think I might gain/loose if compatible at all in trying to flash my mb with your bioses. I currently have the P5Q WS mb and I just upgraded my OS drive to an SSD and no longer require the use of the PCI-X slot for a SCSI adapter and therefore don't care if it no longer even works.
Thanks,
I haven't done any mBIOS for a WS board.. and I wouldn't recommend crossflashing thats generally a really bad idea.
nobody answer me? I can install the new bios 2102.mod. rom even though I have already installed the Journal in 2102?Quote:
Originally Posted by Raffaele2521
az by flash? I could solve my problems?
thank you very much
hi guys :D I have 2 questions...
Recently I've bought my new P5Q PRO mobo with new bios 2102 (official bios) but when I try to reach the max fsb of my E8500, but the mobo buttle up me at 580Mhz :mad:. I am sure the fsb is over 600MHz (infact today I've arrived at 583MHz) but I unable broke the 583MHz (583MHz x6) because of my mobo doesn't like this higher fsb.
- This modded bios as may pass this limit of fsb?
- And this bios is ok also my p5q pro?
anyone?:confused:
Hi,
What is the best mBIOS for axeram D9xxx chips? I have 4x1gb axeram and Q9550@4GHz(8,5x471), starp 333, mem 942mhz on P5Q-Pro. I an wondering to get 1132MHz which is the next step but i cant get it working on 2102 official bios. I have allso tried with the OCZ Flex XLC DDR2-1200 and axeram together to work with 1132 but no result. I tried to use very low mem settings 6-6-6-18@2.2v but it won´t work. Am I dreaming something that could not be done or is my memory broken?
I've sold my p5q pro :shakes: I didn't like it not even with modded bios.:down:
Then you probably had a bum board. 500+FSB is pretty awesome for 24/7 :D
:) but my ex mobo keep stable 480x8 with vnb 1.28 and vtt 1.32. It take's over 500 fsb only setting voltage on [auto]. Infact I've validated 580 :yepp: but I don't arrive 600 :shakes::shakes::shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
screen :ROTF::rofl::ROTF::rofl:
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/7071/cpu3484.png
@ket your modded bios get a BSOD error of windows xp with 450x8:)
Dunno anything about that I don't run XP Pro anymore, W7 Ultimate all the way :D All I can say is that 450x8 doesnt BSOD in W7 with me.
I have tested my 4 axerams and only one mem-stick worked on every slot with the mobo. allso tested ocz flexx 1200 kit and they worked perfectly on every slot in single or dualchannel. Now I am runnig 4x1gb axe and ocz together and these work fine 1100MHz on ocz timings, but not 1132MHz what i am trying to get.
yes but I'm using windows xp :D. Theoretically, all bios shouldn't get errors for any os. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
horewer nice work :up:;)
Asus P5Q Deluxe:
E8500 E0 @ stock 1.024v
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1...0stock102v.jpg
E8500 E0 @ 4.009Ghz 1.24v
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/4...009ghz124v.jpg
E8500 E0 @ 4.303Ghz 1.336v
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/290/e...timestorun.jpg
E8500 E0 @ 4.503Ghz 1.416v
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1295/e850045ghz.jpg
I think that was a joke, I know that I had a good laugh. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by User111
guys, which P5Q dlx mbios version can you recommend for E8400 ocing? Which in your opinions are the best of the best? Thanks! :)
@ Ket:
Thanks for your bios! Works like a charm on my Asus P5Q Pro Turbo!
I found this great thread via Google. Kent's latest P5Q-E BIOS worked perfectly for me! May I send my thanks to Kent for all his brilliant work!
I hope I might be able to bring your attention to the following page from the P5Q-E manual:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3315/...75fdc8ba_o.jpg
It shows that a primary PCIE graphics card should only be mounted in the blue PCIE slot. I can confirm that a GPU does not work and the BIOS refuses to boot if a GPU is mounted in either of the other two black PCIE slots instead.
For the optimum design and air-flow of my case, I would very much like to be able to install my GPU in either one of the black PCIE slots, if possible. Preferably the one on the far right - number three. Is there any way that a marvellous Kent BIOS could allow for this achieved?
I would be tremendously grateful - and I am sure that many more silent-PC builders would be too!
Thank you.
Hey Ket,
again I am trying to get 525 MHz FSB or higher stable with my E8500 @ P5Q "Vanilla"... not possible. :(
I am using the newest BIOS (2102m), but already tried almost every other BIOS. I think, the NB GTL could help me there, but as you know, there is no NB GTL for the P5Q "Vanilla" and only one CPU GTL, which doesn't have really small increments (0.61x, 0.63x, 0.65x). I am trying to integrate this features (NB GTL, smaller increments for CPU GTL) into the BIOS. I already managed to create a SLIC-BIOS for the P5Q, which isn't very complicated. But the NB GTL isn't that easy to build in...
What tools should I use to create such a BIOS? Maybe you could give me some download links? Or even help me with this BIOS mod?
I'll be your Padawan, Jedi Master! :D
That is some mighty good work on such low volts. Congrats!Quote:
Originally Posted by _AntLionBR_
Start with the latest and slowly roll back one version at a time if you find you can't get the settings you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by lexus232
Thats a electrical design limitation. Nothing can be done about that. And its Ket :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pipps
To add things like GTL reference values you have to modify the SLAB (Single Link Arch BIOS) portion of the BIOS. Modifying SLAB is possible to do, but very hard. One wrong move and your board could be toast. If you dare mess with SLAB probably the most easy way to go about doing it would be to extract the SLAB module from a P5Q Premium BIOS, and modify it to work with your P5Q.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dionysos
thx Ket for that great bios...i was able to run 3dmark06 stable with cpu @ 4.5ghz...i tryed same settings with official bios and it wasn't so stable with yours....
http://www.imagesforme.com/out.php/t566720_15217.JPG
max FSB..it should go higher but it's summer and temp are high :D
http://www.imagesforme.com/out.php/t566719_560.JPG
Hey Key, I got a P5Q-WS and it is the most finicky motherboard I have ever used when it come to memory. It won't run even one stick of my Crucial Balistix 1000mhz memory (4 x 1GB). They were working great in my old gigabyte board, so I have no reason to believe they're bad. I was wondering if you could give my P5Q-WS (POS) bios a kick to the nutz and work your magic on it. Would be much appreciated. Peace out.
Hi,
I'm using the m2102 on a P5Q-E, with a e7300. I easily increased the FSB to 350 (stock at 266), without any voltage change.
My concern is about the speed step table (I don't know I it's real name) that are not updated by the bios. And so my Ubuntu system does not see the correct values. It still sees 1.6GHz idle, and 2.66GHz at full speed.
Is it possible to update this table according to the FSB manually set ?
thk a lot.
jery
@ KET:
I´m not able to undervolt my Q6600 with your Bios. I only have the options to use AUTO or a value equal or higher than 1.25V... Is there a way to enable undervolting on this board?
I can't find the right string... :(
I am using MMTOOL, AMIBCP and Hex Workshop.
@ mrosen:
Move the OV_CPU jumper cap to pins 2-3.
@Dionysos:
I´m such a noob! You were right, moving the OV_CPU Jumper did the trick.
Many, many thanks!
Does any of those bioses fit to Asus P5QC mobo?
I'm P5Q user use your new bios
easy , my Q66 @3.8 GH at 1.45 v with TRUX, thanx ketzzzz
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/3885/38ghv1455h.jpg
any uprgade bios ????:D
hi all,
sorry for my bad english ;)
I have a P5q dlx with Q6600, this bios are better for overclock this config ?
A new bios is available on Asus web site. A next release is expected ? I waiting the next release i think to flash with mBios
Phew, a lot of praise and questions in all those posts :D Heres what I'm going to do, now the P45 platform has matured and the kinks are worked out I will release a mBIOS for every P5Q series DDR2 board Asus have released. This is mainly so all the users who have missed the love of a Ket mBIOS have that chance. The mBIOS pack will contain a modified BIOS based on the latest BIOS Asus have available. Expected ETA: Maybe later today.
Awesome, thanks for your work! :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
mBIOSes are in the works, in the meantime heres a list of CPUs each BIOS should support.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...Untitled-1.jpg
Thanks in advance. I am really looking forward for new -E bios :clap:
When the full set comes out, I'd love to try it on my P5Q-VM which is a current G45 board (I didn't see it supported in any of the downloads). I'm @ 3.6GHz on a E7300 and would like to get it a bit higher (any recommended voltage settings?)
Thanks for the effort...
They are on their way :up: Just need another day or 2 to make sure all is good.
Alright.. here comes all the text tech stuff to do with the mBIOSes.
What BIOSes are these mBIOSes based on?
These mBIOSes are based on the latest official BIOSes Asus have available.
Will you release another mega mBIOS pack for all P5Q series mainboards?
Thats a categorical no. So don't even bother asking. After this mBIOS pack mBIOS updates will resume normal service, ie; mBIOSes for the P5Q/Pro/-E/Deluxe/Premium.
Now P45 has matured, how often are you going to release mBIOSes?
Whenever I see fit. I will check CPU and memory tables in new BIOS releases for any improvments I can port to other models of P5Q, if there are only superficial changes such as Express gate compatibility updates, I likely won't bother.
What P5Q models does this mBIOS pack contain mBIOSes for?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ket/BIOSes.jpg
When will you release this mBIOS pack?
Its available now.
Whats new in these mBIOSes?
In this gigantic pack you can expect the usual magic pixie dust sprinkling which includes;
1. New memory table to increase memory compatibility. You can download the QVL list Here.
2. New P6 CPU table to increase compatibility with CPUs
3. All the normal fixes such as working pull-ins
How can I upgrade to your mBIOS?
Same as any other BIOS update. You can either use EZ flash from BIOS, a DOS boot disk (recommended) or update from Windows.
Remember
After a BIOS update, follow these steps.
1. Shutdown system
2. Remove power cord
3. Set CMOS jumper to "clear"
4. Remove CMOS battery
5. Push power button 3 time and hold for a few seconds (discharges any stagnant electricity)
6. Leave for 2 mins
Where can I download this pack?
Its available HERE
As usual, let me know how it goes.
congratulation for the bios. the last ones i thing they were great but this one i cant see any difference bettewen your and asus bios. the last bios i could reach 3.75ghz in my E6400 on air but now i need more vcore to do the same. i use 1.55vcore with this last and the same with the asus bios.
too bad, my asus p5q has seal on it....:mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
no big deal i'll skip step 4...
Usually they're easy to open, you just press on the metal tab and the battery "pops" out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaul
Just joined the forum. Great Job with the BIOSes Ket!! Am using 1613m right now. I just had one issue with my board though and was wondering if anyone can help me with it.
First of all heres my config:
P5Q Pro
Q9400
4x 2Gb corsair dominator 8500C5D
Asus Radeon HD4850
Zalman CNPS 9700
Pc Power and cooling silencer 500
I have a bit of a funny problem. When i cold boot the pc after it has been off for some time, the fans spin up and nothing happens. I have to wait for some time and then the I get a beep and the bios says that overclocking has failed. I load my settings and then everything works fine. Im running the ram at 2.1v at 1066Mhz. I have kept the NB voltage to auto as initially it would boot fine on this setting. Otherwise everything works great... i have not shut down the pc for 3 days now and i have not gotten a single error!!
Is this a problem with my Mobo as initially it would boot up fine on these settings. Have tried every version of the BIOS including Ket's Bioses but to no avail. I can run Sandra, 3D Mark or prime 95 for as long as i want without a single BSOD so im mostly sure that my harware is ok. A lot of people do seem to have this problem but other than resetting the cmos, no one has been able to suggest a proper solution. Looking forward to your help!!
oh...i meant it has seal protected, if broke i'll void my warranty........!!!!!:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by SimpleTECH
It could one or a combination of the following;Quote:
Originally Posted by nikhilmulay
1. Your NB does not have sufficient volts to keep everything running as it should. Try setting a manual value of 1.2/1.3v. If you have your CPU OCd, try setting 1.4v.
2. Any CPU/memory OC you may be running isn't quite fully stable. Bump up your CPU/RAM voltage a bit, say 0.5v.
3. You have a slightly weak SB, set a voltage of 1.2/1.3v.
4. Your PSU is starting to fail.
5. Your mobo is starting to fail.
6. Your PSU may be struggling to provide enough power.
7. Try flashing your mobo with the latest BIOS (mine or official, I'm not predujice :p: ) but don't flash through Windows, do it from pure DOS. To flash from pure DOS prepare any kind media you desire and make it bootable (floppy, CD, USB stick, whatever takes your fancy). Use the version of AFUDOS HERE, put it on the boot media with whatever BIOS you want to use. Restart your system with the boot media left in and at the DOS prompt that will load type; AFUDOS.EXE /iBIOSfilename.rom /PBNC /N
AFUDOS will handle the rest. Once the flash is complete restart as asked, shutdown the system, remove power cord, battery, and set CMOS jumper to "clear". Press and hold power button a few times, leave for 2mins, then power everything up again.
Once thats done enter BIOS and set voltages manually. Try;
CPU: 1.25v
RAM: 2.2v
NB: 1.2v
SB: 1.2v
LLC: Enabled
Thanks for all the hard word Ket. I used the modded p5q-em bios of yours and my fsb wall is still 425. Was the bios suppose to fix that?
To be honest i did not read all 79 pages but i have one question. Is there any differences between flashing bios via dos or just use EZ-FLASH with an usb stick?
i've flashed my bios on P5Q-E board via EZFLASH both time without any problems at all. I've just format my usb stick, put only a bios file, boot up EZFLASH and few times
pressed enter, and after all that i've | remove power cord, battery, and set CMOS jumper to "clear". Press and hold power button a few times, leave for 2mins, then power everything up again|
Okay i did not wait 2 mins always...
No, I don't own all of those P5Q boards I just applied the same tweaks as I do for the P5Q/Pro/-E etc. Which means you can probably get a higher stable CPU/RAM clock, but any FSB limits will probably remain. FSB wall 99.9% of the time is hardware limitation, not software programming error.Quote:
Originally Posted by p3ps1c0la
Flashing from pure DOS is just a much "cleaner" way to do things. It ensures no stagnant remains of the old BIOS are left behind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oki
ic thanks for clarifying.
I've put latest 1901 bios and for now mine 24/7 is - E8500 @ 4.0 ghz 1.32v [ 500x8] me satisfied.
I'm still trying to get satisfied with my system.. no real complaints from the CPU clock its not bad for a quad (450*8). But its damn annoying how my GPUs reset themselves when their OCd in some tasks for no reason. Makes me want to grind my teeth away I'm getting that furiously frustrated trying to figure out wtf makes rge GPUs do that.
maybe crossfire ? as i can see you have 2 of them... drivers ? afaik 4830 doesn't have voltera chip in the case you've vmode gpus...or maybe they are for RMA...so many questions..
Well, right now the only suspect I have is my PSU, but its 800w and has 20a on each of its 4 12v rails. I've run each card by itself stock and OCd for some time, its only when in crossfire. I've tried a few different drivers too and they haven't fixed it. What makes it even more unusual is that I left the streetfighter 4 benchmark running for a hour with no problems, then I do that stupid Windows performance test thing out of curiosity and got a VPU recover message.
I always turn that feature off in my catalyst control panel, this is more about a buggied driver Ket... we had similar issues when benching crossfire : droppign cards, loosing OC's on two out of three etc... very very buggy
Mate drivers might be suspicious. I see you have solid psu and not too "overweight" components. As you can see crossfire is pain in the ass sometimes.
And i've noticed you've oc'ed gpu's, maybe you should try few steps lower clocks.
If they are working fine as one per slot that is the definitly problem on relation : crossfire/too much oc
Sorry everyone for offtopic.
I suspect it could be drivers still too, but I was kinda hoping it wouldn't as drivers I can't do much about apart from wait for AMD to get off their lazy arse and sort things out. I never had any of these issues before AMD bought ATi :(
I've also tried various CF configs, running stock, the cards are fine in CF, apply any kind of OC and eventually.. VPU recover. Something else I'm trying to figure out is my low 3DMark scores too. In 06 its only 16.8k, and thats with both cards @ 680/2GHz and my Q8400 @ 8*450. Granted, I'm running W7, but I doubt it would have a 2-3k impact on my score. I even seperated and isolated various components attached to my PSU to make sure one rail wasn't overloaded compared to another. Does anybody know if XFX release frequent BIOS updates for their graphics cards like asus do? Maybe its some kind of bug there, wouldn't be the first time. One of my Sapphire HD3870s had a BIOS bug that was never fixed so I had to use a different manufacturers BIOS to fix it.
@ Oki, Don't worry about OT. Its my thread, if I choose to take it OT briefly then so be it :p:
Hey guys
I'm getting the P5Q Deluxe (together with Q9550) in a few days, and have been doing some research, so I'm ready to configure and setup my system asap when I get it.
I will for sure update the bios to 2201. But I'm wondering about one thing.
I prefer to use afudos to update the bios, and all the guidelines I've read tells;
-to make a bootable floppy
-put the "afudos.exe" on that floppy
-in addition the "bios.rom" file on that floppy
But (sorry for my french), how the h*** can you fit all those files on the same floppy, when the bios alone is 2mb and the floppy is limited to 1.44mb?
Can you make 1 floppy "bootable" with the "afudos.exe" in it, and another with the "bios.rom" file in it? and does both need to be "bootable"? But then again, the "2201" bios is still 2mb and cannot fit onto a floppy :shrug:
Also, if you know which is the latest "afudos.exe" available, provided with a download link - I would really appreciate it.
Thanks in advance :)
You will use a USB Flash properly formated so you can boot from it.
What if I don't have a USB-stick? :(
Then make a bootable CD :D
Just want to thank the creator of the latest P5Q-E BIOS - this thing kicks ass! I had ASUS's latest and could BARELY OC my E8600 on it since the flash. Once I put the modded BIOS on it, I was back up to 4.4GHz/Air with decent volts.
Thank you!!!!!
i really got low score for my 4770 ???Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
This BIOS kicks ass! I just flashed it yesterday, and overclocking my q6600 was easy as pie. Lowered the boot time as well. It was a breath of new life for my P5Q Pro.
What's the best BIOS for a 45nm Q9300?? I was on the stock 1703-BIOS, now I'm on Ket's 2101, but I don't see a huge difference in overclockability...
My settings are:
CPU Ratio Setting = 7.5
FSB Frequency = 467
PCI-E Frequency = 101
FSB Strap to Northbridge = Auto
DRAM Timing Control = Manual
DRAM Frequency = DDR2-934
DRAM Command Rate = 2N
DRAM Timing Control = Manual
CAS# Latency = 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay = 5
RAS# PRE Time = 5
RAS# ACT Time = 18
Row Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC) = 65
All Else to Auto
DRAM Static Read Control = Disabled
DRAM Read Training = Disabled
Mem. OC Charger = Auto
AI Transaction Booster = Disabled
Performance Level = 11
CPU Voltage = 1.4000
0/2 GTL = 0.680
1/3 GTL = 0.680
CPU PLL Voltage = 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage = 1.24
DRAM Voltage = 2.02
NB Voltage = 1.30
NB GTL = 0.640
SB Voltage = 1.1
PCI-E SATA Voltage = 1.5
Loadline Calibration = Disabled
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
CPU Clock Skew = Auto
NB Clock Skew = Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: Optimized
It's stable for an hour of OCCT-testing, do you think that's fine? Everything else is working fine, too...are those voltages save? Vcore is about 1.37V under load...
I may want to hit 480MHz FSB, that's 3600MHz, do you think that works? Which voltages may I need to increase?
Hi Ket...
I've been reading this thread for almost a year now, and amazed by your work.
I use P5Q-Deluxe and from all versions I felt 1402m suits me most. Too bad I lost mine due to hdd failure.
I notice the 1402m bios is not within downloadable bios collections provided in front of this thread, nor the link in your post #257.
Would you mind telling me where can I download it ?
Thanks in advance.
I don't think I have a copy of that BIOS anymore, theres been lots of revisions even of the same BIOS trying to find the best combination for everybody.
"The Creator", I like the sound of that :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Brahmzy
How are non P5Q/Pro/-E/Deluxe/Premium users doing? There won't be any new mBIOSes for boards outside the norm, but I'm sure I'm not the only one curious to find out how others are doing.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
OK then, thanks anyway.
Anybody still got 1402m bios for P5Q-Deluxe?
I'd be most thankful...
Just 1406m, sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by hwarda
I don't even remember 1402...beta one i'm guessing?
I uploaded Kets BIOS-Pack (doesn't contain 1402, but 1406): http://rapidshare.com/files/25747535...BIOSes.7z.html
Thanks Guys...
I got Ket's P5Q Deluxe bios since 610 to latest 2201.
Just missed this 1402m.
For some reason it left out from being backed up :(
Hey Ket right now with the p5q-em I cannot boot the ram up at stock 1066mhz without ocing my CPU so I was wondering if you could mod the bios to allow the ram to be set at 1066mhz without ocing the CPU?? That would be amazing. Or better yet even allow the ram to be unlinked. I don't know if that's possible.
Set a different FSB strap, then you will be able to set a faster DRAM frequency.
Even by changing the strap the two settings remotely close to 1066 is 1100 and 1001 if I remember correctly. These Dominator 1066 is unstable at 1100. I would just like the option of running all the hardware at rated specs without having to OC. If it's not possible it's cool.
Changing FSB strap is as good as it gets to obtaining the DRAM frequency you want in that case. The only other option is to lower your CPU multi and raise FSB until you hit 1066.
Well i have tried everything these last few days now. I ran memtest on individual modules and they pass. Ran it in pairs too. Only time i get problems in memtest when i run all 4 modules. One thing i have now discovered is that if i let the computer 'warm up' for say about 10 mins or so, it boots without a hitch at 1066Mhz!! Sounds a lil funny as nothing has changed during that period except its been powered up for some time. If i remove one memory stick then the pc powers up instantly. Experimenting with the timings now... hopefully things should get better... Heres my setting for now:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
Ram: 2.1v(5-5-5-18)
NB:1.3v
SB:1.2v
LLC:Disabled
Funny thing is other than this, the pc is rock stable. Never had a bsod or freeze....
Run memtest for windows. It sounds like one of your memory sticks is flaky or not getting enough voltage.
This is more to satisfy my own curiosity, but whats the best FSB people with a P5Q Pro, Deluxe, and Premium have people been able to get? Been thinking of picking up a Premium just for the hell of it for something a bit different to mess with, but if theres no real clocking advantage over my Pro I probably won't bother.
The highest stable FSB (full Prime Custom run) I can reach with my P5Q Vanilla is 512 - next step I tried was 525, but that isn't possible with my board. I think even with the Pro you can't get higher. With P5Q-E, Deluxe or Premium you may be able to, because they have better GTL options (I am still messing around with BIOS modding to attach this options to a Vanilla or Pro, and every help is appreciated :p:), but that is just anyone's guess. Even though with a Quad Core it's hard to get a higher stable FSB than 450-470. For Quad OC I would recommend a GIGABYTE UD3P/UD3R... call me a traitor. :D
TRAITOR! :p: I'm currently running 475FSB without really trying on my P5Q Pro :D only another 20MHz or so and I'll have one of the best FSB quads around :D
Same here, 475 is a cinch (easy), but getting higher is harder.
I don't believe its hardware related like the Mobos components.
I doubt getting to 475 with no major voltages then needing major voltage to get higher and its still not stable is normal behaviour, it must be the Bios, and lack of support from Asus.
I can get 485 by increasing SB voltage (don't need to touch till after 475 but it is not stable yet and probably ain't worth the extra voltages over 475.
I am on latest (supposed to be not the best) 2104 Bios but ain't tried older ones since I got the Quad.
I would love 500 on my Quad same as I had on my Dual.
Do you have a special modded Bios for the MFII ? (I have read this thread in the past but not much in it for MFII users).
P.S, it makes no difference if I am on 2 Modules or 4 Modules, still the same wall.
Hey guys,
I've got a p5q-e, an e7200, and 4g corsair (8500c5d? I think),
cpu 3.57 1.47v, 333 strap(?) 1:1 ratio 508 fsb, 7.0 multiplier
My issue is I'm absolutely capped as far as I can tell in every way by my cpu (orthos tosses errors 48+ hours in anything higher, even with even more ridiculous volts), and I'd like to get my fsb up as high as possible. Problem is, I can't boot at 6.5 or 6.0 multiplier. I actually figured out the issue when speedstep dropped the multi to 6.0 as it does, and killed the machine each time :)
I've been checking it out for the last, 3 or 4 bios', haven't ever managed to get it working, (They've been miraculous so far, make me love this board even more than originally), any clue on if it's possible to get that 6 or 6.5 kicking ass? I've got 25mhz more headroom at least on the fsb with this ram, and it's been killing me :)
I done a M2F mBIOS a while ago, it should still be in this thread somewhere. I've got up to 501FSB on my P5Q Pro so far, 515 wouldn't get into Windows, but I may be able to get it stable.
@ Sakai; 508FSB is pretty high, it may well be thats your FSB wall. For a E7200, thats a high FSB. I'm not sure I would run 1.47v through it 24/7 though unless your trying to kill the chip.
445x9 here, but then, i'm loathe to try faster, i just got it stable at this! :p:
I pushed 1.45v through my old E7200 for a test, but felt really uncomfortable at leaving it there - so i knocked it back to 1.38125v.
I was finally messing with 500FSB other day (posted in MFII thread), it is a hit and a miss, 1 minute ok next minute not ok and very hard to work out what it needs to stabilise it.
That's why I say its the lack of Bios support.
I may look into your MFII bios if I can find it and it aint too old.
I have seen the lower range Asus P45 getting higher than the MFII thats why I assume ita lack of support.
I've actually been running it like this since I bought the board or chip together, whichever it was that came out last, so it's been over a year like this now, with no need for a voltage increase since then :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
It's actually been your bios' that've let me get the fsb this high :)
I can use the 6.0 and 6.5 multipliers up to 470, can't boot any higher than that. (this is all being done with the 333 1:1 setup).
Any ideas on getting at these multipliers with a higher fsb?
Since my :( lost of 1402m I use 1702m then move to 2201m just in case I got better shot clocking E84 E0 in P5Q-Deluxe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
Doesn't result much difference compared to 1702m in clocking term, but there are random freezes in CMOS setup page.
This can also occur after I hit F10. The late saved settings are applied in next boot BTW.
Revert back to previous BIOS this problem didn't appear anymore.
In fact I got better vcore efficiency. Now it won't need a vcore raise to get 4gig anymore, even with an exact same settings.
Like women, boards are funny... don't know exactly when can you hit em most... :D
533-550 here, the thing I find with these boards is the NB holding people back. I found over 475 like most have said the board needs alot of juice. I.E. 475 looks like this :Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
CPU Voltage: 1.325V Bios
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): Auto
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): Auto
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.20
DRAM Voltage: 2.02
NB Voltage: 1.22
NB GTL Reference: Auto
SBridge Voltage: Auto
PCIE SATA Voltage: Auto
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: Performance
This is really all that's importnant.
While 533 FSB looks like this:
CPU Voltage: 1.350V Bios
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): Auto
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): Auto
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.38
DRAM Voltage: 2.02
NB Voltage: 1.36
NB GTL Reference: Auto
SBridge Voltage: Auto
PCIE SATA Voltage: Auto
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: Performance
I'm running a Dual core E8500 with 4 gigs of corsair dominators which btw hold me back, otherwise I would be in the 600 range for sure. With those voltages I run 24/7 cpu on water 37 C, 55C load and NB around 38 C all day long. CPU and NB GTL's don't really come into play until above 550 fsb or higher so no need to worry there. Like I said everything above 475 needs voltage, just have active cooling on the NB and Ram via 120mm fan and everything is good.
P.S. I found a nice way to eliminate errors while OC these boards, these are the steps I take to do it. Set your fsb to whatever you want, I go in 15 mhz increments, I found for every 15 mhz increment above 475 you need to bump the NB voltage 2 steps. When you finish and happen to be running Vista or even XP you can run Windows Mem checker, for 2 passes is sufficient, hasen't let me down yet. This will tell you literally withing the first 24% of completion weather or not your FSB is stable on the Memory side anyway. Next if you have freezing in windows because fo your increased fsb it's probably time to up the VTT voltage, if you have blue screens need more Vcore Voltage. Like I said this has worked for me flawlessly after fighting with it so much at first, if you eliminate the memory errors before getting into windows then CPU is the only thing holding you back, then makes life alot easier as there's only 2 things to change there. GL Have fun, take small steps and all will be well. Almost forgot, watch your voltages as the memory seems to be overvolted, 2.02 gets me 2.1 right on the money, whereas the NB is slightly overvolted only, 1.36 gets me 1.37-1.38.
The Dominator's if older Rev 1.1 can easy do 1200mhz, its just a lack of support by Asus (they ain't even on the QVL for my Mobo).
Also GTL's may not be needed for a Dual (did not need on my E8600) but still better to do the CPU GTL's as you can then lower VCore.
I had 4GHZ 500FSB on the E8600 24/7, all Voltages were on the lowest apart from NB which was 1.2v (Lowest is 1.1v), CPU was @ 1.068v
On the other side of the coin, on a Quad you will need CPU and NB GTL's adjusted approaching 500FSB.
I have good one, my q66 touch FSB 500x7...on testing now !!! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
My Dlx board did 500FSB easily on the quad (with rams at 1200mhz very very important to get off the 1:1 divider) and 600FSB on the dual core was the max I could get stable ( needed loads of GTL tweaking to get 32m stability )Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
Screenies :
http://users.telenet.be/OAP/P5QDlx/500-1200prime.jpg
With 500FSB and 1000mhz on the rams it was never 100% stable
http://users.telenet.be/OAP/P5QDlx/600FSB32Mbpi.JPG
Real CPU speed was 4.2Ghz for the latter
Well this all proves I need to sort my memory out :p: I'll flash the speed data on the modules later. As far as Pro boards go looking at other peoples results I guess mine is pretty good. It'll run .61 GTL even @ 500FSB. Time to play around some more :D
Ok.. messed with the speed data and this kit of aXeRAM is just not stable @ 1156MHz :( No idea why I've had this kit @ 1174MHz 2.1v before.