TRIM for raid is here ...(For Intel chipsets ;-) )

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03-22-2010, 03:52 AM
cirthix

Yay, going to do a fresh install once the third vertex comes in, and now the whole thing will be trimmed :D
03-22-2010, 04:00 AM
Musho

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Originally Posted by Garrett

I'm kind of n00b when it comes to Raid drivers... you install this before you install Windows?

I think it's possibly to do so by loading the drivers during Windows setup from an USB stick, but it won't install the utility. On top of that, there's really no reason to. Just install windows first then update the driver and enjoy TRIM :up: Be sure to enabled Write Back Caching in the utility for a nice speedboost ;)
03-22-2010, 04:15 AM
Anemic

Fore speed for the people, very nice Intel! =)
03-22-2010, 05:34 AM
iddqd

^$#*& you intel! now i have to buy another x25-m

:(
03-22-2010, 05:44 AM
pingpong1455

yay shale install when i get home :)

and what utility are you guys talking bout (link?) ??

i have 2 g2 80gbs intel
03-22-2010, 06:00 AM
sdsdv10

Quote:

Originally Posted by pingpong1455

and what utility are you guys talking bout (link?) ??

I assume they mean Intel's SSD Toolbox

Link: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Deta...&DwnldID=18455
03-22-2010, 06:32 AM
cx-ray

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garrett

I'm kind of n00b when it comes to Raid drivers... you install this before you install Windows?

Vista and Win7 support RAID directly. All you have to do is enable RAID in your BIOS and configure it in the setup screen afterward (press Ctrl I during start up). Then, proceed with the OS install. With older version Windows you have to load the RAID drivers from a separate drive during the OS install.

(this is with Intel chipsets, no idea about AMD)
03-22-2010, 07:17 AM
[XC] Synthetickiller

ALMOST makes me want to jump to an x58 platform just so I can do a raid w/ some agility drives.

Hopefully, there'll be raid TRIM support for people with dedicated raid cards & AMD chipsets.
03-22-2010, 07:36 AM
Vinas

Quote:

Originally Posted by skeyo

I think that only G2 drives have trim support.

Don't be mistaken, G1's do support TRIM with the FW update.
03-22-2010, 07:39 AM
situman

So this is only for RAID? Does it work for single drives?
03-22-2010, 08:29 AM
Vinas

G1 support stuff here, google can probably help more though. A friend of mine said it was possible to TRIM non-intel (kingston rebranded intel drives) also with a hack. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=240620
03-22-2010, 08:34 AM
lowfat

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinas

Don't be mistaken, G1's do support TRIM with the FW update.

No they don't. Read that thread again.
03-22-2010, 08:49 AM
Vinas

Yeah, you're right. I knew I read that thread here and failed to follow it all the way through. There is a hack available out in the wild, at least however for the kingston drives. No, I haven't tried this but it looks like it works : http://www.overclock.net/ssd/656984-...-40gb-ssd.html

It's a little fishy that the kingston intel g1 drives would work but not regular intel g1 drives no?
03-22-2010, 09:32 AM
lowfat

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinas

Yeah, you're right. I knew I read that thread here and failed to follow it all the way through. There is a hack available out in the wild, at least however for the kingston drives. No, I haven't tried this but it looks like it works : http://www.overclock.net/ssd/656984-...-40gb-ssd.html

It's a little fishy that the kingston intel g1 drives would work but not regular intel g1 drives no?

The Kingston drives are based off the Intel X25-M G2.
03-22-2010, 11:09 AM
Etihtsarom

Those G2 40G Kingstons are EOL already right?
I bought one when it came out, enabled TRIM on it. And now I need another to RAID>
03-22-2010, 01:18 PM
Budwise

I installed these for my single X-25M G2 just fine. SSD Toolbox and manual TRIM still work fine too.
03-22-2010, 02:36 PM
onex

YAY, AWESOME!!
many were waiting for this probably,
a great innovation!!
the last missing piece :up: :yepp:.
03-22-2010, 03:16 PM
iddqd

Quote:

Originally Posted by situman

So this is only for RAID? Does it work for single drives?

Only if you figure out how to RAID a drive with itself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKPolice

Apparently this only supports Win7 TRIM but not Intel toolbox manual TRIM.

From my experience, you should manually trim the OS drive once every 2 weeks to restore performance even though Win7 has automatic TRIM. So in the end even with these drivers, the drives will degrade unless the Intel toolbox gets updated to manually TRIM the Raid array.

there's no way to trick windows 7 into trimming for you?
03-22-2010, 04:19 PM
Russian

http://www.techreport.com/discussions.x/18653
03-22-2010, 04:20 PM
HKPolice

This thread title is now misleading, clarification:

http://techreport.com/discussions.x/18653

Translation: if your Intel storage controller is set to RAID mode, you'll now be able to benefit from your solid-state drive's TRIM functionality when running it alongside a RAID array comprised of mechanical drives. TRIM isn't supported for SSDs participating in a RAID array, however. Intel may add that feature in the future, but it hasn't committed to doing so.

The actual Raid array does not get TRIMed, only single SSD devices connected to the controller when put in raid mode.
03-22-2010, 04:27 PM
Musho

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKPolice

This thread title is now misleading, clarification:

http://techreport.com/discussions.x/18653

Translation: if your Intel storage controller is set to RAID mode, you'll now be able to benefit from your solid-state drive's TRIM functionality when running it alongside a RAID array comprised of mechanical drives. TRIM isn't supported for SSDs participating in a RAID array, however. Intel may add that feature in the future, but it hasn't committed to doing so.

The actual Raid array does not get TRIMed, only single SSD devices connected to the controller when put in raid mode.

Uhhh, techreport is wrong. It _does_ support TRIM in raid0 mode. I'd rather trust Intel's words than what that site is saying. Directly from RST 9.6:

http://webpages.charter.net/campb292/thetext.PNG
03-22-2010, 04:55 PM
sniper_sung

This looks promising and I'm looking into buying another X25-M G2 :)
03-22-2010, 08:21 PM
Russian

Trying to get an answer from INTEL.
03-22-2010, 09:32 PM
zads

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clint

I seriuosly must concur, I went from a singgle 7200 drive to a RAID 0 on two Intel SSD's and it's insanely fast. I work in XP64 and it's just ridicoulusly fast.:D

True, but a single 1TB 7200 rpm costs <25% what two Intel SSDs cost :)

Then again, I'm one to talk.. having 8x 128GB SSDs and no HDD ;)
03-23-2010, 07:55 AM
Nosfer@tu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musho

Uhhh, techreport is wrong. It _does_ support TRIM in raid0 mode. I'd rather trust Intel's words than what that site is saying. Directly from RST 9.6:

http://webpages.charter.net/campb292/thetext.PNG

If they are wrong then they are lier's, or intel don't know what they are working on them selfs.

1 way to figure it out.
Open Intel SSD toolbox and perform a manual Trim of your raid.

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