Gulftown "i9" in Q1 2010 (Digitimes)

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07-23-2009, 04:39 PM
Movieman

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Originally Posted by MomijiTMO

So have you won lotto yet to pay for an 8 socket system?

Don't want one.. Like booze, two is my limit!:D
07-23-2009, 04:39 PM
jcool

Guys,

Westmere to Gulftown is like Nehalem to Bloomfield, a 32nm Hexacore with HT and 12MB L3, Dual QPI link ie it will work in existing single and dual lga1366 platforms. Beckton is the Nehalem-EX, 8 cores, 16 threads, 24MB of L3, Quad-Channel IMC (presumably for FB-Dimm 2) and Quad QPI links for up to 8 socket platforms.
07-23-2009, 05:57 PM
labs23

We have to cross our fingers that there won't be any news, halway before Q1 2010 that says Gulfy won't work on S1366.:D

IMO, Intel releasing their desktop hexa-cores on S1366 is a wise move. It would be funneling the upgrade path.

And making some planning-to-upgrade enthusiast users to decide whether to wait for cheaper P55s or grab the X58. Knowing there's a hexa-core just around the corner.
07-23-2009, 06:46 PM
[XC] Synthetickiller

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Originally Posted by Star_Hunter

Will only be a slight improvement just like from 65nm core 2 and 45nm core 2, now if you want to load the cpu just run SMP folding@home on it (and join our team).

I used to do f@h.

I believe I contributed around 1.6M points.

If it's not much of an improvent over a q6600, then I mat just forget about upgrading in 10'. Intel needs to improve clock for clock performance, not simply adding cores most people can't use.
07-23-2009, 06:50 PM
Chrono Detector

Thats nice, though I would like to see the clock speeds and the price, though I won't be surprised if this cost over $600.
07-23-2009, 06:58 PM
lutjens

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Originally Posted by Movieman

Don't want one.. Like booze, two is my limit!:D

Yeah right, like you'd turn one down if it was offered to you...:ROTF:
07-23-2009, 07:03 PM
Bobsama

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Originally Posted by Movieman

Don't want one.. Like booze, two is my limit!:D

I'm sure two bottles of vodka would test your limit pretty well.:shocked:Don't. We need our resident spammer alive and without alcohol poisoning!;)

I'm still a bit disappointed in Intel. They better price these well!
07-23-2009, 07:10 PM
lutjens

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Originally Posted by Bobsama

I'm still a bit disappointed in Intel. They better price these well!

The only octal core processor on the market with Hyperthreading, a ton of L3 cache , and the ability to cram 8 of these behemoths into a single system with an architecture that doesn't choke them to death??

I think reasonable pricing is the last thing on Intel's list when it comes to these processors.

If you were referring to Gulftown, they're still going to milk them for all they're worth...because they're make for very powerful workstations and servers, and Intel knows they'll be in demand. I just hope Intel doesn't continue to hose us DP users by making us pay 3x the price as the CPU for a uniprocessor system, for what is essentially the same hardware.
07-23-2009, 07:28 PM
terrace215

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Originally Posted by Chad Boga

Another server product being foistered upon desktop users by Intel, I hope Turbo boost works a treat. :shrug:

Yes, how TERRIBLE that Intel will only be providing a choice among

2c/4t+IGP
4c/4t
4c/8t
6c/12t

lastest-architecture CPUs for the desktop in Q1 2010.

I mean, what about the Children!!!????
:rofl:

As for Beckton / Nehalem-EX, the 8c/16t monster for 2-8+ sockets:

We remain on track to launch our Nehalem EX processor line, which is the multi-processor version of Nehalem, in the second half of the year. Nehalem EX is expected to redefine the performance standard in that segment.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/1487...script?page=-1
07-23-2009, 08:25 PM
Chad Boga

Quote:

Originally Posted by terrace215

Yes, how TERRIBLE that Intel will only be providing a choice among

2c/4t+IGP
4c/4t
4c/8t
6c/12t

lastest-architecture CPUs for the desktop in Q1 2010.

Latest server architecture being foistered upon desktop users, thus clearly a less than optimal solution than what they could have delivered.

I'll get excited when a 32nm Quad at better stock speeds gets released.
07-23-2009, 08:33 PM
Vozer

Quote:

Originally Posted by terrace215

Yes, how TERRIBLE that Intel will only be providing a choice among

2c/4t+IGP
4c/4t
4c/8t
6c/12t

lastest-architecture CPUs for the desktop in Q1 2010.

I mean, what about the Children!!!????
:rofl:

There will be a 2c/2t + IGP for the Children. :rofl:

I made a table. :D

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...lem_plan_6.png
07-23-2009, 09:01 PM
WhiteFireDragon

that chart isn't accurate because there aren't same number of threads for that comparison. and i thought i3 was only for laptops no?
07-23-2009, 09:35 PM
Bo_Fox

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Originally Posted by Movieman

Beckton is supposed to be 8 core,32nm and just 2 socket and up..
Gulftown should work in single and dual socket 1366 boards if what I hear is correct with just a bios update.

What's the matter with 16 threads?:p:
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/9...r16threads.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/1604/16threads.jpg

How did you get it to do only the Childhood Cancer project and block other programs? I'm ok with all the WCG projects except for Nutritious Rice.. I do not want to waste my electricity folding for some miraculous strain of rice that we will never use anyways. Here in America, we still use Crisco (pure trans fat), BHT, and hydrogenated oils (standardized peanut butter), etc.. and I do not see any point in spending so much energy on a miracle rice that would have been better spent on going for a variety of foods (greens, especially broccoli, carrots, sweet potatoes, etc..)
07-23-2009, 09:35 PM
003

If Gulftown ends up being just a 32nm shrink of Bloomfield with two additional cores, it should still end up slightly faster clock for clock because don't forget it's also supposed to have 12mb of L3 cache, up from 8mb on Bloomfield. It will be extremely lame if it is Extreme Edition only though.
07-23-2009, 09:38 PM
Bo_Fox

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Originally Posted by 003

If Gulftown ends up being just a 32nm shrink of Bloomfield with two additional cores, it should still end up slightly faster clock for clock because don't forget it's also supposed to have 12mb of L3 cache, up from 8mb on Bloomfield. It will be extremely lame if it is Extreme Edition only though.

Nah, I don't expect it to only be EE. Intel is dedicating a whole new number "i9" to it, plus it will be on 32nm (taking up roughly the same die size area as current i7's), so Intel could probably make so much more $$ on retailing different speed models of the same chip than selling it to only a few rich people.
07-23-2009, 10:17 PM
saaya

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Originally Posted by perkam

Run for your lives AMD users !!

uhm... you do know that gulftown will come at the same or lower clocks as bloomfield and lynnfield right? it just has more cores, which honestly means squat in the desktop segment, this is a workstation/server cpu... :P
07-23-2009, 10:22 PM
Movieman

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Originally Posted by saaya

uhm... you do know that gulftown will come at the same or lower clocks as bloomfield and lynnfield right? it just has more cores, which honestly means squat in the desktop segment, this is a workstation/server cpu... :P

It's going to be fast enough to turn the corners of your mouth upwards..:rofl:
07-23-2009, 10:25 PM
clayton

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Originally Posted by Movieman

It's going to be fast enough to turn the corners of your mouth upwards..:rofl:

And decode a video of it at the same time.
07-23-2009, 10:29 PM
Movieman

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Originally Posted by clayton

And decode a video of it at the same time.

While cooking your dinner, talking your wife into a quickie after dinner and then shutting down the lights for the night!:D

And thats on the first core..:rofl:
07-23-2009, 10:45 PM
MomijiTMO

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Originally Posted by Bo_Fox

Nah, I don't expect it to only be EE. Intel is dedicating a whole new number "i9" to it, plus it will be on 32nm (taking up roughly the same die size area as current i7's), so Intel could probably make so much more $$ on retailing different speed models of the same chip than selling it to only a few rich people.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Oh please be true.

Then again, being the only i9 makes it special -> more elite -> justified higher price tag.
07-23-2009, 11:22 PM
Bo_Fox

Quote:

Originally Posted by MomijiTMO

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Oh please be true.

Then again, being the only i9 makes it special -> more elite -> justified higher price tag.

Hmm, maybe Intel will at least do two versions, like a 950 and a 975. The 975 would be EE, but the 950 wont, and we can buy the 950 for $400...

Yeah, that is what I would bet for.. except that the i9 might use higher numbers like 1150 and 1175 EE??
07-23-2009, 11:26 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo_Fox

Hmm, maybe Intel will at least do two versions, like a 950 and a 975. The 975 would be EE, but the 950 wont, and we can buy the 950 for $400...

Yeah, that is what I would bet for.. except that the i9 might use higher numbers like 1150 and 1175 EE??

I'll be we'll see at least 3 speed ratings on these..
expensive, more expensive and OMG!:shocked::rofl:
07-23-2009, 11:38 PM
FlanK3r

this is a monster....12 threads, omg. I think, AMD must launch x6 to desktop...
07-23-2009, 11:39 PM
AffenJack

I'm still beleaving more in this roadmap mentioned in a Lynnfield Review:
http://www.abload.de/img/1702311_intel_rm3or1r.jpg
http://diy.pconline.com.cn/cpu/revie...1702311_1.html

It isn't a new roadmap (no i5, i3 brand), but why should intel change their plans, it's not necessery to launch gulftown earlier.

Edit:
@ LOE, changed it, hope it works now;)

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