What exactly were you referring to??
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Originally Posted by
denice25
wow, that's awesome...
I don't know what part of this thread was awesome to you. Whether it was just my last post, or the entire thread. Please explain, and especially how this helps you.
Shingoshi
Some of our posts have been so close together, it's unavoidable!
As you already noticed, we were posting almost simultaneously. And sometimes when I'm posting a correction, you're already answering it, before I have a chance to see what you've posted in response to something I intended to correct. That's just the nature of the beast. Best advice would be to let me have more time to look over my posts, to make sure that I'm really satisfied with them. If you see that I've just posted something, you could let more time lapse before responding. Otherwise, the condition will remain.
And once again. There's nothing theoretical about injectors and their operation. I don't need to prove them to you or anyone else. That's already been done by several industries which use them on a daily and constant basis. So stop calling something that's reality, theory. You would be better off just to say you don't understand how they work. Because if you did understand how they work, you would stop calling them theories.
Since nearly 40 minutes have passed since I saw this being posted, I should be safe.
Shingoshi
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To give a perspective of size...
I found this image on the net. I keep looking for better images. I'm currently settled on using one of the two injectors in the 2" nozzle size. This is an image of it.
Just tonight, I came up with an ingenious method for mounting both of my reservoirs and two injectors, ALL on a SINGLE connection. I just had to choose the right part. I'm also hoping that Mazzei actually has transparent versions available for sale. I've seen (demo?) images of them, but don't know if they're for sale. Transparent injectors in operation would be a blast!
Shingoshi
An explanation's in order...
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Originally Posted by
Holst
Can you explain further how this will work ?
I MADE A MAJOR MISTAKE HERE WHICH I AM NOW CORRECTING!
I FORGOT TO SAY WHAT THE PLACEMENT OF THE PUMP SHOULD BE.
Thanks to Holst for catching this mistake!
If you have an injector, you install it in this manner:
1.) Install a Tee connector (by cutting the hose between the pump and the reservoir) in the outlet line leading from your reservoir.
2.) Using the tee connector, splice your coolant line to the pump back together.
The final result should look like this:
RESERVOIR > TEE > PUMP > INJECTOR
The suction from the injector, should come straight from the TEE.
The line from the TEE should bypass the pump. (Hopefully, this corrects my oversight!)
3.) Attach a new hose (long enough to reach the injector) to the branch of the tee connector.
4.) Attach the inline outlet of the tee connector to the inlet of the injector.
5.) Attach the suction port of the injector (somewhere in the middle) to the branch of your tee connector.
6.) Attach the outlet of the injector to the inlet of the cpu(s).
I'm debating whether the line from the reservoir going to the tee connector should be the straight section of the tee, or the branch. The reason is, the injector is going to pull more liquid through the suction port than it's inlet port. The inlet port only provides the initial flow. But all of the power comes from the suction port. So after thinking about this further, the line that leads from the reservoir should be at right angles to the line that leads out to the injector. Because the line going to the suction port should have no restriction on it.
Installation is now completed.
The injector will now suck additional water from the reservoir into the coolant stream, boosting the amount of pressure and volume in the flow.
I hope that fully explains it.
Shingoshi
Maybe I should have read this first...
When all else fails, think again!!
I began thinking about creating the equivalent of a MULTIPLE-EFFECT EVAPORATOR:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evapora...ct_evaporators
I was thinking that if one injector alone can't do the job, why not cascade them. I don't know if that's possible, because I don't know how much vacuum a single venturi can generate, to know how many would be required to accomplish this.
I don't know enough about this. I really need to do more checking. However, you really should have looked at this page (or one like it):
http://www.mazzei.net/products/injector_info.htm
Unless I'm missing your point, I think that should explain this better than I could.
Shingoshi
A picture is worth a thousand words!
Now that I've looked at your diagram, I see a good representation for others to follow. :up: What you're missing is that the fluid passing through the venturi in the injector has it's velocity substantially increased. It is the increase of that velocity that provides the increase in flow. It might seem like some sort of Voodoo. But it really works. :D If you want, you can always use a separate line from the reservoir. Or you can use two reservoirs. :yepp: In either case, you need larger lines to accommodate the flow. ;) That just makes sense. If the flow is restricted, REMOVE THE RESTRICTION.
Shingoshi
Ok! I got smiley happy!
Would you please make another diagram???
Taking into account my corrected instructions. Please show how the pump should be installed in the proper location of the line. The TEE should be between the RESERVOIR and the PUMP. The PUMP should be between the TEE and the INJECTOR.
I'm really sorry for this confusion, and I'm really glad you caught it. And early too, I might add. Very good observation.
Shingoshi
You need to look at my correction, and how this works...
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Originally Posted by
Holst
That definately wont work as the pump will push water the wrong way down the injector and back into the inlet of the pump.
Although flowrate through the pump might increase flow through the CPU will decrease.
The water will take the path of least resistance.
I think you're still missing the point here:
INJECTORS ONLY DIRECT THEIR FLOW FORWARD (from the outlet), NOT BACKWARD (through the suction port).
The suction port is called that, because it causes suction to exist. The suction port provides no external pressure, and therefore cannot return fluid to the source. You would have to completely BLOCK the flow from the injector's outlet for the injector to stop working. Then and only then would you see backflow. And that's simply not going to happen.
