Im running a 920 on a P6T Deluxe @ 200x21
CPU voltage: 1.35
QPI/DRAM volt: 1.4
HT enabled
Intel TM disabled
C1E disbabled
When I use LinX to bench/stress CPU-Z shows my multiplier going down to 20.5, resulting in "4125mhz".
Is this the same problem as discussed in this thread?
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/9...ultiku6.th.png
are there ways around this?
I guarentee it'll affect my benching with wPrime, and 3D06 & 3DMark Vantage...that's 4 major benchmarks I'm concerned with....maybe you guys will have to watch for this RIIE in the classies when I decide to upgrade to the eVGA FTW (aka Shimano) board when in comes out in January.Quote:
Originally Posted by cky2k6
correct. this is the same problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by tjelaw
set your vcore to 1.38 or more an the multiplier going down to 20.0 ;)
What's funny is that I pointed this out weeks ago, but nobody believed me, or rather nobody seemed to care. Even HardOCP and Tom's did not notice this. They went by what the Asus reps said, which is completly incorrect. Asus is the only board manufacturer whose boards have no ability to override the TDP limit.Quote:
Originally Posted by webwilli
It does suck, big time. I also attribute a lot of hard locks and reboots at high clocks to this, as voltages are high for high clocks, but maybe that's just me. We need this feature though, we really do.
Anyway, I'll post the link to my original complaint sometime later today.
it really sucks without this feature.
i donīt understand Asus.
They call it "The Ultimate Overclocking Board for Tweaking Fun", but the very important TDP Override is not in the bios :(
i hope Asus will fix this problem.
Yup, this sucks... its almost useless for overclocking...
anyone know if it would be technically possible for them to fix it with a bios update?
I believe it would :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by tjelaw
tried this and got this..REII and 920 cooled by SS...1866 sticks 9-9-9-24
http://i40.tinypic.com/21mg13r.jpg
.., and this...
http://i44.tinypic.com/mrfsd1.jpg
Have lot of other issues though.., cant get consistency i 3D runs.., results all over the place...
best 06..
http://i41.tinypic.com/2qcjoec.jpg
Vantage on air..,
http://i44.tinypic.com/2mqvrrr.jpg
Seems that 1.5 v-core bios (1.48) is limit for concistent results.., more.., and results go wild... no matter the cooling...
.., just met my goal..06 in 4.4ghz with little SS...
http://i42.tinypic.com/wbdutz.jpg
Your results are wild because the chip is starting to throttle. You won't see it though as by the time your benchmark run is done the multipliers are restored to 21x. The 1.46V at 4.2GHz is with a SS which means that your lower temps are keeping the TDP in check so the TDP limit is not getting triggered.Quote:
Originally Posted by fubarswe
Also, as promised, here is the link to my original post on Asus forums...roughly two weeks ago now...
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us
Yes.., figured it out.., limit seems to be 1.5 in bios.., throttling by chip makes it difficult to tell sometimes what problem is.., but.., problems are there to be solved.. :-)
and no replay from asus... :shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by dejanh
i have pushed up the thread on Asus forum:DQuote:
Originally Posted by webwilli
see it : http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...20II%20Extreme
and here : http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...20II%20Extreme
because it's a determinant argument for me i would like to buy i940 + R2E...
Guys, don't bug them. I just posted about that above. If you pester them they will Ignore it. They are working on platform compatibility issues right now. They will be doing that until the RAM development settles. Give them a break. If this is something worth looking into they will.
If that thread keeps getting bumped and rebumped, they might delete it. Let's all work with them, not against them OK? This would be a neat feature, but we won't get it if we're not polite.
Remember, they could just decide to say "You don't have an Extreme Edition CPU, and that's why you're having this issue." Eventhough I do have an Extreme Edition CPU, I'll get on there and help you guys. I'm trying to figure out why I cannot get to the forum. All I get with these links are page not found errors. I can't figure out what's causing it.
I totaly agree with you but...Quote:
Originally Posted by T_Flight
Is this an official news ?Quote:
They are working on platform compatibility issues right now. They will be doing that until the RAM development settles. Give them a break. If this is something worth looking into they will.
Because if i can imagine that a company as Asus is or will work on this kind of problem,
it's normal as (thousand) potential future buyers that we are, to ask them an official position, regarding the price of such motherboard isn't it ?
i'm not talking about a milkshake:D
If they will say it, it will be their consent that they wont fix it for i7 920 & 940, then it will be called a positioning of market : Then i will give a chance to Gigabyte or eVGA.Quote:
Remember, they could just decide to say "You don't have an Extreme Edition CPU, and that's why you're having this issue."
Actually, the chance is still for Asus, so i'm patient : But they must know.
As far as I can understand, doesn't the smackover board support turning off the tdp limit? The point is, that this is not a feature to limit overclocks, but rather to just keep the chip within operating limits at stock speeds. Asus, for some reason, decided that it will apply this policy on users that aren't Intel's focus. This isn't like a major update, I would imagine memory compatibility is about 10x as complicated to fix as a simple multiplier switch triggered by a tdp ceiling. I'm only going to be patient for so long, if Asus doesn't even acknowledge this issue, then I will exchange this board for a dfi or evga one before my 30 day return limit on newegg...Quote:
Originally Posted by T_Flight
I do not agree with you really...Quote:
Originally Posted by T_Flight
1. This is not "bugging" anyone. Indeed, if there is an issue we should bring it up and Asus should fix it.
2. You say that they are "working on platform compatibility issues right now". Like what? Making useless 2GHz DDR3 DRAM work with the board? C'mon, this should be on the bottom of the list. They have not even gotten 1600MHz to work properly, but they found it appropriate to release a BIOS update that adds support for DDR3 2000MHz? If that's called prioritizing then I know nothing about it...
3. Asus ignores the forum as is. No Asus engineering staff or tech support staff looks at their forums. That forum is run by the stellar moderators like Ulrich and Kensek (hats off to them), and is all based on the "user-help-user" principle. Asus has nothing to do with it. They only host it.
4. DRAM development will never settle down so this is a game of a cat chasing its own tail. DRAM manufacturers will keep pumping junk into the market for as long as they can rebadge their kits. Asus will never catch up with this "compatibility".
5. I do not believe in their ability to appropriately judge the importance of looking into this issue, especially after having contact with them about this some weeks ago (even their moderator from the forum contacted them) and receiving a very uneducated response to turn off CPU TM function.
6. They can always come up with an excuse to justify not fixing things and not introducing new features. That's a given. You just kind of hope that they do not.
To summarize, the more users complain about this and request this feature, the more likely they are to add it. That's the bottom line.
@ this moment i am priming with ht and turbo on. And now i have the TDP problem to.
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The CPU is running @ 20 * 200 in stead of 21*200. The HT feature sure does add a lot of heath.
Just wanted to confirm that problem also appears in my p6tdlx too. @1.45v priming is ok but linpack brings it up :(
As for the rest about Asus i totally agree with dejanh.
I did some more tests today... at 21x200, and it didn't throttle back anyone, at least not on the same voltages/speeds as where it did before.
I'm not sure what setting caused this, try playing around with the C-State option.
Newegg let u exchange the board?Quote:
Originally Posted by cky2k6
from neweggQuote:
Return Policy: Limited Non-Refundable 30-Day Return Policy
For me it depends on temps. I do not throttle turbo off until the temps hit 85C - 87C. Once they do, turbo goes off.Quote:
Originally Posted by tjelaw
Remember, TDP limit is engaged based on the current, load, number of cores, and temperatures or a combination thereof. I'm almost 100% sure R2E is doing it at least based on current, load, and temps all together.
I didn't ask yet, but its newegg, I'm not returning it for a refund, I want to exchange it for another board. They're very lenient with this stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by vavtnen
So this doesnt happen on the EE CPU? And also how do you find out the VID of your CPU?Quote:
Originally Posted by T_Flight
I think no and from Intel datasheets on Core i7. You can find them on their site.
You can set whatever multi you want on an Extreme CPU.Quote:
Originally Posted by btdvox