To everyone in the WC section, Please read!

One of the things I have noticed is the constant bashing of the use of aluminum in a loop. Due to galvanic corrosion and such. There are ways to control this, but that aspect seems to be completely ignored or bashed. I believe a proper thing to do is to explorer effective means of controling corrosion.

I've been researching this and I will be writing a paper on it. So far i have found some forms of corrosion can be corrected with sacrifical anodes, but this can lead to another form of corrosion. In this light I'll be working toward methods of controling corrosion for the various mixed metal loops.

This is a good thread for everyone to read only, not to discuss and post about your opinion, your experience, who's to blame, etc. :shrug:

David, please consider closing this thread.

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Originally Posted by gillbot

My stance on it is, I won't recommend something I haven't personally used. I will never recommend an EK because I'm too cheap to run one myself. I will point them to threads that shows others' experiences but I always add my $0.02 about my beloved Apogee GT. I usually recommend the Apogee GT for two reasons:
1) It can be found in the FS/FT section for $25 shipped or less used,
2) I have abused mine and it takes everything I throw at it, so it's a proven performer in my eyes.

It's hard to beat that $ per C performance, though as soon as I get my D-Tek Fuzion v1 mounted and tested, we'll see as the price on those is falling as well.

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Funny one; I bought some WC parts from one of the guys here and I had an option to take one ApogeeGT or a pair of Fuzion v1's..
I had one apogeeGT and didn't want to rape the guy as he was giving me a very fair deal so I passed on the fuzions and took the one apogeeGT
The fuzions look a little prettier and might be 1-2C better but I'm happy and i'll shine all that chrome and make them beauuuuutiful!:rofl:

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Originally Posted by Ashraf

This is a good thread for everyone to read only, not to discuss and post about your opinion, your experience, who's to blame, etc. :shrug:

David, please consider closing this thread.

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you r a mod, if the thread is out of order close it. You are telling him he is wrong to discuss this? MM is the mod who convinced me to ease off and change directions. If you had continued I would have either been banned or quit posting here.

Soooo, does this mean we cant grill Thermaltake kits anymore?









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Originally Posted by D-Cyph3r

Soooo, does this mean we cant grill Thermaltake kits anymore?









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No it means use your brain and try to help them make it work if they can't afford anything else.

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Originally Posted by gillbot

My stance on it is, I won't recommend something I haven't personally used.

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This attitude should be adhered to by everyone. Opinions should be based on experience and not by someone sitting behind a keyboard with an agenda.

I look forward to a much more positive water cooling sub forum.

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Originally Posted by RealRedRaider

Another opinion of others opinions.... This is a perfect example of what starts the battles here. The "Greater than thou" attitude...

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It's not really about that. It's about raising the standards of XS. Please adhere to the new higher standards. :welcome:

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Originally Posted by Ashraf

This is a good thread for everyone to read only, not to discuss and post about your opinion, your experience, who's to blame, etc. :shrug:

David, please consider closing this thread.

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As far as I know, Dave supersedes you in moderator land, so it's his choice. Fingers do not need to be pointed here. Dave was simply posting an example of what the bad blood in this forum has brought about.

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Originally Posted by RealRedRaider

Another opinion of others opinions.... This is a perfect example of what starts the battles here. The "Greater than thou" attitude...

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What does that have to do with a holier than thou attitude? He was simply pointing out that empirical data holds more water than superfluous personal preference. :shrug:

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Originally Posted by mcoffey

See, I think that's where the problem is, and a good example. I can't help or recommend something I don't do, or haven't used. I wouldn't use mixed metals in a loop regardless of what kind of additive someoone came up with. I wouldn't risk recommending something like that to someone, or advising them on how to use it.

I believe a lot of us are the same way here on XS. But for every one of us that don't use mixed metals or additives, there's one's who do. We debate our side of the coin, and they debate theirs, and I don't see anything wrong with that as long as we act half way decent about it.

I think the same can be said for a lot of discussions we have here at XS. It's the civility and ethics we all need to work on around here more than the content or basis of our debates IMO.

andyc

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I'm not saying it a good unit, just that a particulat user may have been given the unit , not have the funds for something better, or may just want to use it as a learning experience. So in that light letting them know what can be done within their limitations, the units limitations to get to perform as well as it can. What to look for to catch a potential failure.

its an interesting social mix here in the XS LC section with a wide range of ages and races (not so many chicks th :)). With such diversity you are bound to have the occasional confrontation / misunderstanding...

I think the adults in this forum need to leed by example. Some of the most childish behaviour displayed in this section comes from people who must be over 30!

I have taken a less active role in this forum lately due to the bickering but i still think its the number 1 place for good advice and a source of great ideas.

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Here is how it starts...:shrug:

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How? Your opinions are just that: yours. It's fine to tell someone you love your CPU block manufactured by Company X, but it's another thing to have blinders on when it comes to objective performance. And what if they don't want to spend a certain amount on the top block? You're responsible to scale it down and examine price to performance if you really want to help them. And, of course, by 'you' I mean 'everyone'.

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Originally Posted by DarthBeavis

you r a mod, if the thread is out of order close it. You are telling him he is wrong to discuss this? MM is the mod who convinced me to ease off and change directions. If you had continued I would have either been banned or quit posting here.

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Originally Posted by Omastar

As far as I know, Dave supersedes you in moderator land, so it's his choice. Fingers do not need to be pointed here. Dave was simply posting an example of what the bad blood in this forum has brought about.

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Um, "This is a good thread for everyone to read only, not to discuss and post about your opinion, your experience, who's to blame, etc." wasn't even toward to Movieman.

I will not close this thread without his permission. Movieman is a moderator and the creator of this thread. I am not telling him what to do, but a suggestion to close this thread. We are team. :up:

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Originally Posted by b@llz0r

Some of the most childish behaviour displayed in this section comes from people who must be over 30!

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I concur. :(

Shessh . . .maybe Ashraf was right in that he saw what was coming . . .come on guys. If you are going to post here post about how to improve with CONSTRUCTIVE ideas and add value. Hopefully MM will clean it up and keep in on track as it is doing some good.

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We are team. :up:

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LOL . . .I figured it out . . .good cop, bad cop routine . . .LOL. You two pulled one over on me . . .:up: I still think that infraction is totally unwarranted but whatever . . .only a freaking forum now isn't it. . .and it if makes it all better here then why not.

I agree with Darth, this thread is for improving WC'ing section, not about anything else.

I think the mods should start giving us titles as a short-term punishment ;) They do that over at PDXLAN forums and it really works . . .can also give out kudos that way . . .