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06-24-2008, 08:13 AM
GAR

Please let us know if any update has come from ASUS about this situation, thanks.
06-24-2008, 10:52 AM
pmp

AC FSB TRY:
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/9...3866id0.th.png
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=379953

Completely OOB mobo without any preps, seems to be nice enough for some high numbers as well.
Chasing ASUS Commando MB ? Possible, very easily:
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/4...5970hm2.th.png
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=379965
06-24-2008, 11:43 AM
GAR

Tony just replied to my thread in the OCZ forums, he said that ASUS is aware of this issue, its motherboard related and has to do with 2gb dimms, also he said it would be atleast a week before anything gets fixed, im going to wait it out, as i like the board, asus is aware and is working on it.
06-24-2008, 11:45 AM
Telo

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAR

Tony just replied to my thread in the OCZ forums, he said that ASUS is aware of this issue, its motherboard related and has to do with 2gb dimms, also he said it would be atleast a week before anything gets fixed, im going to wait it out, as i like the board, asus is aware and is working on it.

I got the same problem but with 1GB sticks of OCZ3P18002GK; so it is not just with 2GB it is with the chips used on these sticks I'm afraid.
06-24-2008, 12:14 PM
Fitseries3

anyone know how to set the command rate in the bios? my ram likes 1t and not 2t.
06-24-2008, 12:28 PM
Fitseries3

to fix the ram problem just make sure you set your ROW REFRESH CYCLE TIME to 72 or higher. that is the solution to that problem on all the ddr3 asus boards i've owned... which is like all the ones they have had out so far. LOL! good luck.
06-24-2008, 02:14 PM
zeuverclok

little validation @ 641mhz with PL 10
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=379602
06-24-2008, 02:25 PM
Fitseries3

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeuverclok

little validation @ 641mhz with PL 10
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=379602

what ram are you using?
06-24-2008, 02:26 PM
zeuverclok

chell shock 14400 cas 7 ( D9GTR):up:
06-24-2008, 06:44 PM
Pyr0

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAR

Anyone else have this kit and needs some help post in this thread

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...023#post278023

Nice 1 GAR, I'll definitely be following that thread :up:
can't post there though as it's not allowed ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony

So

Im testing 1600EB 4GB kit, had this ram well over 1800MHZ on P5E3 Premium.

1600 no way, 1500 no way, 1400 ish, 1333 jeez is it fast

This board is sooooo tight and must be at 1N by default it just hates 128IC's x16, to much load me thinks.

I will contat Asus and see what I can do with bios, for now try to keep the 4GB kits around 1333 6-6-6-(18>22 for TRAS) and test tRD at 6 or 7 tRFC can be 48 clocks.

This board is really fast with the ram like this, probably faster than 7-7-7-24 2T 1600 so do not think you are giving performance away as you are not.

more soon

Thanks for testing Tony, makes me feel much better knowing you're on the case :)

Today I swapped my quad out for my E8500 and tried your suggested settings with the OCZ3P16004GK kit.
1333, 6-6-6-22, 333 strap, tRD 7, 1.72V and 1.20V for the NB. (all skews, gtl's etc on auto)
These settings passed 3 complete loops of Memtest 2.01 and allowed me to actually complete a Windows XP x64 install.

I'm currently running HCI Memtest as I type. Hopefully it'll keep going
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8...34gbrq8.th.jpg

Doesn't seem very fast though
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/5...6622de2.th.png

Thanks for the help so far Tony, looking forward to any more progress :up:

[edit] :(
Memory error found copying between 0x24278f4c, 0x94048e38, difference =40000000
after 5hrs 56min
06-24-2008, 09:25 PM
GAR

So i got windows to install somewhat with 6-6-6-22, but prime fails within 45 mins, i went away from nvidia to get away from problems, but this board is making the 790i look so good right now...........which ddr3 4gb kits actually work with this board?
06-24-2008, 11:50 PM
pmp

GAR, issue you mentioned is already addressed. As large number of users are facing this, i introduce new build:

Asus P5Q3 Deluxe BIOS build 0801
06-25-2008, 02:06 AM
Telo

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmp

GAR, issue you mentioned is already addressed. As large number of users are facing this, i introduce new build:

Asus P5Q3 Deluxe BIOS build 0801

Well, it is a step in the right direction. However, all it got me was a boot into the Windows XP screen with the progress bar at the bottom. After that the PC rebooted and refused to POST again. Meanwhile, all I'm trying to do is run the RAM [OCZ3P18002GK] at a mere 1333Mhz with a relaxed timing of 7-7-7-21-2T [it is rated for 1800 at 8-8-8-20-2T]. I even tried running it at 9-9-9-27-2T and the same tease happened.
06-25-2008, 05:02 AM
Tony

I swear this is a 1N 2N issue, I have been beating on this for 6 hrs now, new 0801 build, ram proven to 1800MHZ on the P5E3 Premium and it won't load Vista at 1333 on this P5Q3, asus support are blaming the ram...how the hell can they do that when I can boot on their X48 board at 1800MHZ with the same dimms???

1GB modules seem a lot better, specially Micron and Samsung based, but they always do better as 1N is little stresss to them and the chipset, the issues come with 128's and 16IC's, the load is just to much.

Im trying to get SPD looked into also, maybe there is something we missed or the board does not like...as i said 1600eb 4GB kit running 1800MHZ on the X48 proves the ram is ok but im for sure missing something on this P45.

Regards posting on the OCZ forum, there are rules on the support section. if you wish i can move it to performance tuning and anyone can post and add to threads. The rules were put in place to stop end users jumping on others users threads....you have to post your own thread in support to make sure your issue is dealt with.
06-25-2008, 05:19 AM
Pyr0

Hi Tony,
So, is the 0801 bios any good?
Does it improve anything for us? (do the lowest voltage settings still work like auto?)

I dropped the tRFC to 48 and the Northbridge to 1.18V after it failed and have just passed 8hrs of HCI memtest @ 1333, 6-6-6-22
06-25-2008, 05:28 AM
Tony

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyr0

Nice 1 GAR, I'll definitely be following that thread :up:
can't post there though as it's not allowed ;)

Thanks for testing Tony, makes me feel much better knowing you're on the case :)

Today I swapped my quad out for my E8500 and tried your suggested settings with the OCZ3P16004GK kit.
1333, 6-6-6-22, 333 strap, tRD 7, 1.72V and 1.20V for the NB. (all skews, gtl's etc on auto)
These settings passed 3 complete loops of Memtest 2.01 and allowed me to actually complete a Windows XP x64 install.

I'm currently running HCI Memtest as I type. Hopefully it'll keep going
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8...34gbrq8.th.jpg

Doesn't seem very fast though
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/5...6622de2.th.png

Thanks for the help so far Tony, looking forward to any more progress :up:

[edit] :(
Memory error found copying between 0x24278f4c, 0x94048e38, difference =40000000
after 5hrs 56min

compare off a board running 2N to this one running the same cpu and ram frequency, then you see a difference
06-25-2008, 05:29 AM
Tony

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyr0

Hi Tony,
So, is the 0801 bios any good?
Does it improve anything for us? (do the lowest voltage settings still work like auto?)

I dropped the tRFC to 48 and the Northbridge to 1.18V after it failed and have just passed 8hrs of HCI memtest @ 1333, 6-6-6-22

im beating my head against the wall while typing this.

No bios I have tested is any good yet...none of them
06-25-2008, 05:35 AM
Telo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony

I swear this is a 1N 2N issue, I have been beating on this for 6 hrs now, new 0801 build, ram proven to 1800MHZ on the P5E3 Premium and it won't load Vista at 1333 on this P5Q3, asus support are blaming the ram...how the hell can they do that when I can boot on their X48 board at 1800MHZ with the same dimms???

1GB modules seem a lot better, specially Micron and Samsung based, but they always do better as 1N is little stresss to them and the chipset, the issues come with 128's and 16IC's, the load is just to much.

Im trying to get SPD looked into also, maybe there is something we missed or the board does not like...as i said 1600eb 4GB kit running 1800MHZ on the X48 proves the ram is ok but im for sure missing something on this P45.

Regards posting on the OCZ forum, there are rules on the support section. if you wish i can move it to performance tuning and anyone can post and add to threads. The rules were put in place to stop end users jumping on others users threads....you have to post your own thread in support to make sure your issue is dealt with.

Well, the P5Q3 Deluxe's BIOS is not like the P5E3 Premium, instead of telling you that you are modifying the Command Rate, it is called something different [which I do not remember right now], and the options are AUTO, 1 clock, 2 clocks, and 3 clocks. I assumed that is where the CR is modified, I have selected 2 and 3 clocks so far and both get me to the same result.
06-25-2008, 05:37 AM
Tony

This is important, please read and post me the info

Gentlemen

How many of you with the P5Q3 deluxe and OCZ memory are running Western Digital hdd's?

I run Raptors here, i see one of 2 of you run similar.
Please post up if you have WD drives.
06-25-2008, 05:39 AM
jozzy

my cpu can do 613 on 965 (i believe it can get higher on other good 965 boards), but i only get 591 at this board :shrug:

while max ram i can get was only this 2120

@ Tony : wazup with the WD hdd ?
06-25-2008, 05:40 AM
Tony

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telo

Well, the P5Q3 Deluxe's BIOS is not like the P5E3 Premium, instead telling you that you are modifying the Command Rate, it is called something different [which I do not remember right now], and the options are AUTO, 1 clock, 2 clocks, and 3 clocks. I assumed that is where the CR is modified, I have selected 2 and 3 clocks so far and both get me to the same result.

Pre to pre is not command rate :) trust me

there is no option in P45 bios to adjust 1N to 2N
06-25-2008, 05:44 AM
Pyr0

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony

Gentlemen

How many of you with the P5Q3 deluxe and OCZ memory are running Western Digital hdd's?

I run Raptors here, i see one of 2 of you run similar.
Please post up if you have WD drives.

I have my OS on a single Raptor 150 (currently in ide mode if that makes any diff)

[edit] 8.5hrs passed...

[edit2] do you think there's any chance of getting a 1N/2N option added?
06-25-2008, 05:54 AM
Tony

Im trying to get it added yes

you running off the marvell controller? Im double checking as I just moved over to it and my errors have all disapeared
06-25-2008, 05:55 AM
Telo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony

Gentlemen

How many of you with the P5Q3 deluxe and OCZ memory are running Western Digital hdd's?

I run Raptors here, i see one of 2 of you run similar.
Please post up if you have WD drives.

I use 80GBs Seagates for OS on the PC in question; they are attached to the ICH10, not the Marvell controller. BUT it does have 2 WD HDDs for storage.
06-25-2008, 05:59 AM
Pyr0

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony

Im trying to get it added yes

you running off the marvell controller? Im double checking as I just moved over to it and my errors have all disapeared

i'm on the intel ich10 ports

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