Are new G0 chips really too good OCers? - No!

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07-17-2007, 12:18 PM
Forsaken1

OBR.Thanks for sharing with us.

FPO batch please.From posters happy or not.
07-17-2007, 12:37 PM
bingo13

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Originally Posted by Speederlander

Just goes to show how ridiculous it is for people to get excited about an upcoming product based on early OCing results from ES chips. Too-good-to-be-true ES results might as well have no relation to the retail versions at all. At best it's toally random in the retail chips, with the typical occasional "good OC" chip.

My retail chips clock better than my ES chips. ;) For the OP, try those chips on a P35 board. :up:
07-17-2007, 12:37 PM
zerazax

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaK2000

I too am planning on getting a Q66 after the price drop. Just got my Striker Extreme, Muskin 1066, and an Ultra 120 Extreme. I hope it isn't a flop. I was really hoping for 4Ghz on air.

4.0Ghz on air from a Q66 in the heat of Palm Springs, CA is just asking to be set up for failure...
07-17-2007, 01:12 PM
newls1

Quote:

Originally Posted by bingo13

My retail chips clock better than my ES chips. ;) For the OP, try those chips on a P35 board. :up:

Im so happy with your post I could hug you:eleph: I am praying that my G0 Q6600 that comes at some point will scale decently.
07-17-2007, 01:15 PM
MarlboroMan

old Conroes still the best clockers... most of them are between week L626 <--> L630 ;)
07-17-2007, 01:37 PM
Grinch

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikalCarbine

Just ordered a E6750 today with an IP35 and Ballistix 8500, I'm hoping for at least in the 3.6-3.8 range

from where?
07-17-2007, 01:48 PM
Metroid

Well not sure about but maybe EU G0 batches are not as good as the ones sold in American. It is just a guess after all.
07-17-2007, 03:18 PM
Kunaak

some CPU's suck, some dont.
the same is true today, as it was every other day before today.
and it will be true ten years from now too.

theres no garauntees in overclocking.
07-17-2007, 03:24 PM
orion23

I thought the main feature for the G0 stepping was the lower temperatures?

The Overclocking part has always been a matter of luck.

I had to go through 3 or 4 different E6600's to find one that would do 4ghz :D

And I will go Q6600 G0 soon since I want to try a Quad :shrug:

I'll leave the overclocking to my luck and nothing else....
07-17-2007, 03:25 PM
EternityZX9

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaK2000

I too am planning on getting a Q66 after the price drop. Just got my Striker Extreme, Muskin 1066, and an Ultra 120 Extreme. I hope it isn't a flop. I was really hoping for 4Ghz on air.

I highly doubt 4Ghz will happen on air (at least for 24/7 use). There's a good chance on watercooling though. I'm thinking 3.3-3.6 on air 24/7 stable...depends on what your setup is and how good of a chip you get.

That's my educated guess.
07-17-2007, 03:45 PM
GazC

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kunaak

some CPU's suck, some dont.
the same is true today, as it was every other day before today.
and it will be true ten years from now too.

theres no garauntees in overclocking.

Very true, the only guarantee you can make is that prior to a new chip/ram/gfx card being released is that certain high profile overclockers will get handed cherries to play with who then post their awesome results online which then make the rest up us plebs pee our pants with excitement. Disappointment then follows, seen it all too often.

Thought I must admit to also being sucked into thinking that the G0 stepping was going to be the next XP-M.

Gaz the cynic.
07-17-2007, 04:40 PM
ineedaname

My e6600 is a pretty good clocker but it runs hot as hell. I was thinkin of trying my luck with one of these g0 steppings. Now I'm not so sure.
07-17-2007, 04:55 PM
fallwind

Someone needs to get an actual temp probe on these G0's. The coretemp readings are almost too good to be true.
07-17-2007, 05:07 PM
mascaras

there is any way to check G0 steping in the CPU BOX (BATCH or FPO) or we can only check with CPU-Z???

regards
07-17-2007, 05:14 PM
adamsleath

if u already have a good clocking 6600 or equivalent why even bother with a 6x50?
quad is the next step...and g0 has proven to be cooler for all the people who want to oc the quads on air....but as far as the actual oc potential of the quad (even a cool one)
:shrug: heat is not the only factor...some chips just do not oc at "reasonable" voltages.
crysis and hl2ep2 will benefit from quaddies :)
amongst other programs...and im sure the list of multicore apps will keep growing over the next 6-12 months. i predict dual core demand will plummet if quad cores are available @ reasonable prices.

as of 22ndish july there is only 1 'affordable' quad core chip.

dual: e2180; e4500; e6420; e6600/6700; e6x50....a few more choices.

the key to quad cores is multithreaded apps. NOT speed.
although more speed will come with 45nm.
or a frozen cpu :lol:

the difference between 3.4 and 4.0 is absolutely bugger all - the benefis of a quad are more tangible with multithreaded apps and/or more apps at once.
07-17-2007, 06:51 PM
Start

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamsleath

if u already have a good clocking 6600 or equivalent why even bother with a 6x50?
quad is the next step...and g0 has proven to be cooler for all the people who want to oc the quads on air....but as far as the actual oc potential of the quad (even a cool one)
:shrug: heat is not the only factor...some chips just do not oc at "reasonable" voltages.
crysis and hl2ep2 will benefit from quaddies :)
amongst other programs...and im sure the list of multicore apps will keep growing over the next 6-12 months. i predict dual core demand will plummet if quad cores are available @ reasonable prices.

as of 22ndish july there is only 1 'affordable' quad core chip.

dual: e2180; e4500; e6420; e6600/6700; e6x50....a few more choices.

the key to quad cores is multithreaded apps. NOT speed.
although more speed will come with 45nm.
or a frozen cpu :lol:

the difference between 3.4 and 4.0 is absolutely bugger all - the benefis of a quad are more tangible with multithreaded apps and/or more apps at once.

technically 3 if you cound the X3210 and X3220 :D
07-17-2007, 08:27 PM
nugzo

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Originally Posted by Nasgul

My question is this........why pair an nFarce 680i which is not a P35 with a Q6600?

We've seen what a P35 can do with a Q6600.

I too would be worried in getting a Q6600, "IF" I had an nFarce chipset and being that I wouldn't even touch one with a 10ft pole, I don't have anything to worry about it.

nFarce 680i :shakes:

P35 means absolutely nothing to those of us with 2 8800 ultras...... Or anything SLI for that matter. :shrug: :hump: :dammit:
07-17-2007, 09:44 PM
eva2000

from looks of it all the good G0 clockers probably went into E6850 G0 retails and left overs bumped down to E6750/E6550 G0 retails ?
07-17-2007, 10:21 PM
PanteraGSTK

I would like to have a G0 q6600 or e6850, but I still haven't found a motherboard that can max out my conroe E6300. I've gotten it up to 3750mhz on air with a 536hmz fsb with my crappy boards. This is 3dmark stable too. I've been wanting a new cpu to play with, but until I find the maximum capability of my current cpu, I don't think I'll be buying anything in the near future.
07-17-2007, 11:14 PM
OBR

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

from looks of it all the good G0 clockers probably went into E6850 G0 retails and left overs bumped down to E6750/E6550 G0 retails ?

Yes :( it seems like that ...

but we need more tested chips ...
07-17-2007, 11:38 PM
Dumo

Theres microcode revision for each and every stepping (C2D) from B0 to B3 to E0/G0. So the best bet is to get (final) retail cpu and mobo that maximize the new revision.

Last year we doubt Conroe will oc'd to 4Ghz with air, but X6800ES B1 easily reach 4 gig then B2 retail easy 4.6Ghz with subzero.

The search for golden chip is never ending:).....http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=search+golden

and

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=111517
07-17-2007, 11:54 PM
alpha0ne

Tried 3.70GHz with these settings and BSOD :down:

1.590Vcore set in bios/1.53Vcore under load for only 3648MHz

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9...59vcorepv0.jpg

Settled for 3.40GHz with 1.45Vcore set in bios with only 2.0Vdimm

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/6...45vcorebf6.jpg
07-17-2007, 11:55 PM
nzbleach

this is sad to see. I may just fork out the extra cash for the E6850. Even then I feel im taking a risk.
07-18-2007, 12:28 AM
michaLcoughliN

Quote:

Originally Posted by PanteraGSTK

I would like to have a G0 q6600 or e6850, but I still haven't found a motherboard that can max out my conroe E6300. I've gotten it up to 3750mhz on air with a 536hmz fsb with my crappy boards. This is 3dmark stable too. I've been wanting a new cpu to play with, but until I find the maximum capability of my current cpu, I don't think I'll be buying anything in the near future.

3.5 is still pretty good on E6300 dude. I have mine @ 3.3ghz. Seems quick. But not quick enough.

Reason why I want my hands on either E6850 / Q6600. To be honest. too much of this.. too much of that going on. No real benches to prove "what is better" unless I have been mistakenly blinded by not reading doing my research.

There is truly no true benchmark to say "at 4ghz E6850 <=> Q6600 @3.3ghz_ as Example.
07-18-2007, 12:38 AM
Viss

Quote:

Originally Posted by mascaras

there is any way to check G0 steping in the CPU BOX (BATCH or FPO) or we can only check with CPU-Z???

regards

SLAxx = G0 as far as i know...

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